Re: How about Kierkegaard's dictum, "Truth is subjective" ?

2012-12-15 Thread Stephen P. King

On 12/15/2012 3:20 PM, Roger Clough wrote:

Hi Stephen P. King
You agree with Peirce, then, that truth is what a consensus
will inevitably arrive at.


Yes, iff that consensus has a simple rule: No contradictory fact 
can be hidden by some physical means.




As politics shows, however, the public is divided into
liberals and conservatives, who in principle can never agree.
because one bases his judgment on a moral  standpoint
(is it fair ?) and the other on arithmetic (we can't afford it).
Heart vs. mind, in short.
But subjective truth is both.



Indeed!

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Re: How about Kierkegaard's dictum, "Truth is subjective" ?

2012-12-15 Thread Stephen P. King

On 12/15/2012 3:20 PM, Roger Clough wrote:

Hi Stephen P. King
You agree with Peirce, then, that truth is what a consensus
will inevitably arrive at.


Hi Roger,

No, that would be Utopian. Truth must be perpetually sought. It is 
never "arrived at", much like a limit of an infinite number of actions.



As politics shows, however, the public is divided into
liberals and conservatives, who in principle can never agree.
because one bases his judgment on a moral  standpoint
(is it fair ?) and the other on arithmetic (we can't afford it).
Heart vs. mind, in short.


We need people with hearts and minds, not one or the other.


But subjective truth is both.


Indeed!

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Stephen


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Re: Re: How about Kierkegaard's dictum, "Truth is subjective" ?

2012-12-15 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Stephen P. King 

You agree with Peirce, then, that truth is what a consensus
will inevitably arrive at. 

As politics shows, however, the public is divided into
liberals and conservatives, who in principle can never agree.
because one bases his judgment on a moral  standpoint
(is it fair ?) and the other on arithmetic (we can't afford it).
Heart vs. mind, in short.

But subjective truth is both.


[Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]
12/15/2012 
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen

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Subject: Re: How about Kierkegaard's dictum, "Truth is subjective" ?


On 12/15/2012 1:45 PM, Roger Clough wrote:
> How about Kierkegaard's dictum, "Truth is subjective" ?
> I agree with him 100 %.

 I disagree 100% Truth is the agreement between many 
subjectives. A single subjective cannot even know what truth is.

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Re: How about Kierkegaard's dictum, "Truth is subjective" ?

2012-12-15 Thread Stephen P. King

On 12/15/2012 1:45 PM, Roger Clough wrote:

How about Kierkegaard's dictum, "Truth is subjective" ?
I agree with him 100 %.


I disagree 100% Truth is the agreement between many 
subjectives. A single subjective cannot even know what truth is.


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How about Kierkegaard's dictum, "Truth is subjective" ?

2012-12-15 Thread Roger Clough
Hi meekerdb 

How about Kierkegaard's dictum, "Truth is subjective" ?

I agree with him 100 %.



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Time: 2012-12-13, 14:33:31
Subject: Re: the truth of science and the truth of religion


On 12/13/2012 9:46 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: 
So I have no conflicts with science as long as I  keep in mind what 
kind of truth is referred to.


There is one truth. Let us search it.

There are many true propositions, but I don't think they can be collected in a 
coherent 'one truth'.

Brent

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