Re: Re: [4DWorldx] Is mass mental or physical ?

2013-11-11 Thread LizR
On 11 November 2013 09:44, John Mikes jami...@gmail.com wrote: Liz: it all starts with the proper use of words we use so imroperly. Musttrynottofeelshadenfreude... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To

Re: Re: [4DWorldx] Is mass mental or physical ?

2013-11-10 Thread John Mikes
Liz: it all starts with the proper use of words we use so imroperly. What is P H Y S I C A L ? the explanational domain where features are proven by other featires of the explanational theoretical domain? (By instruments from WITHIN) What is M E N T A L ? we live in a maze and use 'language'

Re: [4DWorldx] Is mass mental or physical ?

2013-11-10 Thread meekerdb
On 11/10/2013 12:44 PM, John Mikes wrote: This is why my agnosticism is based on: The only thing we know is We Don't. Do we really know that?? :-) Brent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and

Re: Re: [4DWorldx] Is mass mental or physical ?

2013-11-09 Thread Roger Clough
: 2013-11-08, 23:52:10 Subject: Re: [4DWorldx] Is mass mental or physical ? First of all, there is no evidence that any strings exist. So, the question of mass is irrelevant, unless for the string theoretician. The theory requires that strings have mass, but where is the proof? Mathematical

Re: Re: [4DWorldx] Is mass mental or physical ?

2013-11-09 Thread Alberto G. Corona
:52:10 Subject: Re: [4DWorldx] Is mass mental or physical ? First of all, there is no evidence that any strings exist. So, the question of mass is irrelevant, unless for the string theoretician. The theory requires that strings have mass, but where is the proof? Mathematical proof

Re: Re: [4DWorldx] Is mass mental or physical ?

2013-11-09 Thread Richard Ruquist
: Friday, November 08, 2013 5:36 AM To: everything-list ; mailto:mindbr...@yahoogroups.com ; 4dworldx ; theoretical_physics_board Subject: [4DWorldx] Is mass mental or physical ? I need some help. Yesterday I made the claim that strings are massless and so are nonphysical (mental, by my

Re: Re: [4DWorldx] Is mass mental or physical ?

2013-11-09 Thread LizR
On 10 November 2013 04:11, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote: Mathematical proof is all that is lacking. That is that particles like electrons and quarks are strings. That electrons and quarks have mass is established experimentally Well, they appear to, in the sense that they interact

Is mass mental or physical ?

2013-11-08 Thread Roger Clough
I need some help. Yesterday I made the claim that strings are massless and so are nonphysical (mental, by my definition). But you can show theoretically that strings have mass, based on line tension and other variables. So is mass physical ? Unless I am mistaken, mass is always defined in

Re: Is mass mental or physical ?

2013-11-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 08 Nov 2013, at 13:36, Roger Clough wrote: I need some help. Yesterday I made the claim that strings are massless and so are nonphysical (mental, by my definition). But you can show theoretically that strings have mass, based on line tension and other variables. So is mass physical ?