Re: Constraints on "everything existing"

2003-01-23 Thread Jean-Michel Veuillen
My comments at the bottom too. Jean-Michel At 08:51 AM 1/22/2003 -0800, Eric Hawthorne wrote: My comment at the bottom of the message. Eric Jean-Michel Veuillen wrote: Eric Hawthorne wrote: Unless a world (i.e. a sequence of information state changes) has produced intelligent observers

Re: Constraints on "everything existing"

2003-01-22 Thread Eric Hawthorne
My comment at the bottom of the message. Eric Jean-Michel Veuillen wrote: Eric Hawthorne wrote: Unless a world (i.e. a sequence of information state changes) has produced intelligent observers though, there will be no one around in it to argue whether it exists or not. Then our universe

Re: Constraints on "everything existing"

2003-01-20 Thread James N Rose
Jean-Michel Veuillen wrote: > Then our universe did not exist before there were > intelligent observers in it, which is not true. > > I think that is better to say that all > self-consistent mathematical structures exist. > To restrict existence to universes containing > SASs (self-aware struc

Re: Constraints on "everything existing"

2003-01-20 Thread Jean-Michel Veuillen
At 08:40 PM 1/17/2003 -0800, Eric Hawthorne wrote: John M wrote: Eric: do I detect in your 'circumstances' some 'anthropocentric/metric/logic' restrictions? is the multiverse exclusively built according to the system we devised on this planet as 'our physical laws'? (your 'factor' #1, althou

Re: Constraints on "everything existing"

2003-01-18 Thread Stephen Paul King
inal Message -From: "Eric Hawthorne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:40 PMSubject: Re: Constraints on "everything existing"> John M wrote:>> >Eric:> >> >do I detect in

Re: Constraints on "everything existing"

2003-01-17 Thread Eric Hawthorne
John M wrote: Eric: do I detect in your 'circumstances' some 'anthropocentric/metric/logic' restrictions? is the multiverse exclusively built according to the system we devised on this planet as 'our physical laws'? (your 'factor' #1, although you oincluded in factor #2 the (CLASSICAL existen

Re: Constraints on "everything existing"

2003-01-17 Thread John M
Eric: do I detect in your 'circumstances' some 'anthropocentric/metric/logic' restrictions? is the multiverse exclusively built according to the system we devised on this planet as 'our physical laws'? (your 'factor' #1, although you oincluded in factor #2 the (CLASSICAL existence) modifier.)