Re: Craig's Maths

2013-09-17 Thread Russell Standish
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 10:34:42AM -0700, Craig Weinberg wrote:
 
 
 http://multisenserealism.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/identity3.jpg?w=595
 
 
 http://multisenserealism.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/identity3.jpg?w=595
 
 Here’s a crazy little number that I like to call the Non-Well-Founded 
 Identity Principle. It woke my boiling brain up a few times last night, so 
 I present it now in its raw state of lunacy.
 
 The idea here is “For All A, A equals the integral between A and (the 
 integral between A and not A)”.

How are we to interpret this? You don't state what A is, but to have
an integration limit of A implies it is an element of a Lebesgue
measurable set. Yet the expression not-A implies that A is a set. Are
you doing integration over sets of sets? What is your Lebesgue measure
in this case?


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Re: Craig's Maths

2013-09-17 Thread Craig Weinberg


On Monday, September 16, 2013 9:22:36 PM UTC-4, Russell Standish wrote:

 On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 10:34:42AM -0700, Craig Weinberg wrote: 
  
  
  
 http://multisenserealism.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/identity3.jpg?w=595 
  
  
  
 http://multisenserealism.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/identity3.jpg?w=595 
  
  Here’s a crazy little number that I like to call the Non-Well-Founded 
  Identity Principle. It woke my boiling brain up a few times last night, 
 so 
  I present it now in its raw state of lunacy. 
  
  The idea here is “For All A, A equals the integral between A and (the 
  integral between A and not A)”. 

 How are we to interpret this? You don't state what A is, but to have 
 an integration limit of A implies it is an element of a Lebesgue 
 measurable set. Yet the expression not-A implies that A is a set. Are 
 you doing integration over sets of sets? What is your Lebesgue measure 
 in this case? 



In this case, A is the A of the Property of Identity, so that it can be 
anything at all - set, group, number, hairstyle, memory of an ant - any 
phenomenon which can be experienced in any way, directly or indirectly. I 
am speculating on the nature of ontology itself, that to 'be' is to diverge 
from the totality of being in this nested, integrated+semi-integrated way.

The Lebesgue measure is self-similarity. I am the integral of (my own 
nature) and (the integral of (my own nature)(all differences between my 
nature and the totality of nature excluding myself)). If we used a number, 
then it would be a number = the integral of (that number) and (the 
integral of (that number) and (all Real numbers except that number).

I'm challenging the assumption that cardinality can exist in isolation. 
Every number, expression, or identity is dependent on its relation with all 
other identities, because I am assuming an unbroken context of whole truth 
as the single truth in that (sole, primordial) context. I'm proposing a 
threshold of universal identity which borrows 'it-ness' from it-self in a 
particular way.

Craig



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Re: Craig's Maths

2013-09-17 Thread Russell Standish
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 04:48:12AM -0700, Craig Weinberg wrote:
 
 
 On Monday, September 16, 2013 9:22:36 PM UTC-4, Russell Standish wrote:
 
  On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 10:34:42AM -0700, Craig Weinberg wrote: 
   
   
   
  http://multisenserealism.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/identity3.jpg?w=595 
   
   
   
  http://multisenserealism.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/identity3.jpg?w=595 
   
   Here’s a crazy little number that I like to call the Non-Well-Founded 
   Identity Principle. It woke my boiling brain up a few times last night, 
  so 
   I present it now in its raw state of lunacy. 
   
   The idea here is “For All A, A equals the integral between A and (the 
   integral between A and not A)”. 
 
  How are we to interpret this? You don't state what A is, but to have 
  an integration limit of A implies it is an element of a Lebesgue 
  measurable set. Yet the expression not-A implies that A is a set. Are 
  you doing integration over sets of sets? What is your Lebesgue measure 
  in this case? 
 
 
 
 In this case, A is the A of the Property of Identity, so that it can be 
 anything at all - set, group, number, hairstyle, memory of an ant - any 
 phenomenon which can be experienced in any way, directly or indirectly. I 
 am speculating on the nature of ontology itself, that to 'be' is to diverge 
 from the totality of being in this nested, integrated+semi-integrated way.
 
 The Lebesgue measure is self-similarity. I am the integral of (my own 
 nature) and (the integral of (my own nature)(all differences between my 
 nature and the totality of nature excluding myself)). If we used a number, 
 then it would be a number = the integral of (that number) and (the 
 integral of (that number) and (all Real numbers except that number).
 
 I'm challenging the assumption that cardinality can exist in isolation. 
 Every number, expression, or identity is dependent on its relation with all 
 other identities, because I am assuming an unbroken context of whole truth 
 as the single truth in that (sole, primordial) context. I'm proposing a 
 threshold of universal identity which borrows 'it-ness' from it-self in a 
 particular way.
 
 Craig
 

I'm sorry Craig, but none of that makes any kind of sense at all. You
might as well be speaking Chinese.

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Visiting Professor of Mathematics  hpco...@hpcoders.com.au
University of New South Wales  http://www.hpcoders.com.au


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Re: Craig's Maths

2013-09-17 Thread Craig Weinberg


On Tuesday, September 17, 2013 9:50:02 PM UTC-4, Russell Standish wrote:

 On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 04:48:12AM -0700, Craig Weinberg wrote: 
  
  
  On Monday, September 16, 2013 9:22:36 PM UTC-4, Russell Standish wrote: 
   
   On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 10:34:42AM -0700, Craig Weinberg wrote: 


 
   
 http://multisenserealism.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/identity3.jpg?w=595 


 
   
 http://multisenserealism.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/identity3.jpg?w=595 

Here’s a crazy little number that I like to call the 
 Non-Well-Founded 
Identity Principle. It woke my boiling brain up a few times last 
 night, 
   so 
I present it now in its raw state of lunacy. 

The idea here is “For All A, A equals the integral between A and 
 (the 
integral between A and not A)”. 
   
   How are we to interpret this? You don't state what A is, but to have 
   an integration limit of A implies it is an element of a Lebesgue 
   measurable set. Yet the expression not-A implies that A is a set. Are 
   you doing integration over sets of sets? What is your Lebesgue measure 
   in this case? 
   
  
  
  In this case, A is the A of the Property of Identity, so that it can be 
  anything at all - set, group, number, hairstyle, memory of an ant - any 
  phenomenon which can be experienced in any way, directly or indirectly. 
 I 
  am speculating on the nature of ontology itself, that to 'be' is to 
 diverge 
  from the totality of being in this nested, integrated+semi-integrated 
 way. 
  
  The Lebesgue measure is self-similarity. I am the integral of (my own 
  nature) and (the integral of (my own nature)(all differences between my 
  nature and the totality of nature excluding myself)). If we used a 
 number, 
  then it would be a number = the integral of (that number) and (the 
  integral of (that number) and (all Real numbers except that number). 
  
  I'm challenging the assumption that cardinality can exist in isolation. 
  Every number, expression, or identity is dependent on its relation with 
 all 
  other identities, because I am assuming an unbroken context of whole 
 truth 
  as the single truth in that (sole, primordial) context. I'm proposing a 
  threshold of universal identity which borrows 'it-ness' from it-self in 
 a 
  particular way. 
  
  Craig 
  

 I'm sorry Craig, but none of that makes any kind of sense at all. You 
 might as well be speaking Chinese. 


So strange. It seems pretty straightforward to me - given the subject 
matter, of course. 


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Re: Craig's Maths

2013-09-17 Thread meekerdb

On 9/17/2013 6:50 PM, Russell Standish wrote:

On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 04:48:12AM -0700, Craig Weinberg wrote:


On Monday, September 16, 2013 9:22:36 PM UTC-4, Russell Standish wrote:

On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 10:34:42AM -0700, Craig Weinberg wrote:




http://multisenserealism.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/identity3.jpg?w=595




http://multisenserealism.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/identity3.jpg?w=595

Here’s a crazy little number that I like to call the Non-Well-Founded
Identity Principle. It woke my boiling brain up a few times last night,

so

I present it now in its raw state of lunacy.

The idea here is “For All A, A equals the integral between A and (the
integral between A and not A)”.

How are we to interpret this? You don't state what A is, but to have
an integration limit of A implies it is an element of a Lebesgue
measurable set. Yet the expression not-A implies that A is a set. Are
you doing integration over sets of sets? What is your Lebesgue measure
in this case?



In this case, A is the A of the Property of Identity, so that it can be
anything at all - set, group, number, hairstyle, memory of an ant - any
phenomenon which can be experienced in any way, directly or indirectly. I
am speculating on the nature of ontology itself, that to 'be' is to diverge
from the totality of being in this nested, integrated+semi-integrated way.

The Lebesgue measure is self-similarity. I am the integral of (my own
nature) and (the integral of (my own nature)(all differences between my
nature and the totality of nature excluding myself)). If we used a number,
then it would be a number = the integral of (that number) and (the
integral of (that number) and (all Real numbers except that number).

I'm challenging the assumption that cardinality can exist in isolation.
Every number, expression, or identity is dependent on its relation with all
other identities, because I am assuming an unbroken context of whole truth
as the single truth in that (sole, primordial) context. I'm proposing a
threshold of universal identity which borrows 'it-ness' from it-self in a
particular way.

Craig


I'm sorry Craig, but none of that makes any kind of sense at all. You
might as well be speaking Chinese.



Chinese would be a lot better.  You could get somebody to translate. :-)

Brent

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Re: Craig's Maths

2013-09-17 Thread Craig Weinberg
I'm happy to translate. There doesn't seem to be any real interest in 
understanding though.


On Tuesday, September 17, 2013 10:01:11 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote:

  On 9/17/2013 6:50 PM, Russell Standish wrote:
  
 On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 04:48:12AM -0700, Craig Weinberg wrote:

  On Monday, September 16, 2013 9:22:36 PM UTC-4, Russell Standish wrote:

  On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 10:34:42AM -0700, Craig Weinberg wrote: 

  

  http://multisenserealism.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/identity3.jpg?w=595 

  

  http://multisenserealism.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/identity3.jpg?w=595 

  Here�s a crazy little number that I like to call the Non-Well-Founded 
 Identity Principle. It woke my boiling brain up a few times last night, 

  so 

  I present it now in its raw state of lunacy. 

 The idea here is �For All A, A equals the integral between A and (the 
 integral between A and not A)�. 

  How are we to interpret this? You don't state what A is, but to have 
 an integration limit of A implies it is an element of a Lebesgue 
 measurable set. Yet the expression not-A implies that A is a set. Are 

you doing integration over sets of sets? What is your Lebesgue measure 
 in this case? 


  In this case, A is the A of the Property of Identity, so that it can be 

   anything at all - set, group, number, hairstyle, memory of an ant - any 

   phenomenon which can be experienced in any way, directly or indirectly. I 
 am speculating on the nature of ontology itself, that to 'be' is to diverge 
 from the totality of being in this nested, integrated+semi-integrated way.

 The Lebesgue measure is self-similarity. I am the integral of (my own 
 nature) and (the integral of (my own nature)(all differences between my 

   nature and the totality of nature excluding myself)). If we used a number, 
 then it would be a number = the integral of (that number) and (the 
 integral of (that number) and (all Real numbers except that number).

 I'm challenging the assumption that cardinality can exist in isolation. 

   Every number, expression, or identity is dependent on its relation with all 
 other identities, because I am assuming an unbroken context of whole truth 
 as the single truth in that (sole, primordial) context. I'm proposing a 

   threshold of universal identity which borrows 'it-ness' from it-self in a 
 particular way.

 Craig


  I'm sorry Craig, but none of that makes any kind of sense at all. You
 might as well be speaking Chinese.


  
 Chinese would be a lot better.� You could get somebody to translate. :-)

 Brent
  

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