Re: Re: Re: Re: NewsFlash: Monadic weather today will be cloudy withachanceofthunderstorms

2012-08-23 Thread Richard Ruquist
Millions of times cause it just ain't true.
But I do not want to interfere with your religion
In string theory monads are definitely things in themselves.

On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Roger Clough  wrote:

>  Hi Richard Ruquist
>
> Monads are reference to things, are like bookmarks.
> They aren't the things themselves. How many times
> do I have tio keep explaining this to you ?
>
>
> Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
> 8/23/2012
> Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so
> everything could function."
>
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> *From:* Richard Ruquist 
> *Receiver:* everything-list 
> *Time:* 2012-08-23, 11:10:48
> *Subject:* Re: Re: Re: NewsFlash: Monadic weather today will be cloudy
> withachanceofthunderstorms
>
>  How do you know that?
>
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
>
>>  Hi Richard Ruquist
>>
>> Monads are simply a smart bunch of ASCII characters.
>>
>> Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
>> 8/23/2012
>> Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so
>> everything could function."
>>
>> - Receiving the following content -
>> *From:* Richard Ruquist 
>> *Receiver:* everything-list 
>> *Time:* 2012-08-23, 07:05:17
>> *Subject:* Re: Re: NewsFlash: Monadic weather today will be cloudy with
>> achanceofthunderstorms
>>
>>  Roger,
>>
>> Please tell us how you know that.
>>
>> If you refer back to Leibniz,
>> then you are treating
>> science like a religion,
>> making Liebniz into a prophet
>> that must be believed.
>> Richard
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 6:57 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
>>
>>>  Hi Stephen P. King
>>>
>>> Monads are inextended, so can have no spatial presence.
>>>
>>>
>>> Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
>>> 8/23/2012
>>> Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so
>>> everything could function."
>>>
>>> - Receiving the following content -
>>> *From:* Stephen P. King 
>>> *Receiver:* everything-list 
>>> *Time:* 2012-08-22, 10:58:42
>>> *Subject:* Re: NewsFlash: Monadic weather today will be cloudy with a
>>> chanceofthunderstorms
>>>
>>>   Dear Roger,
>>>
>>> You are being inconsistent to the very definition of a monad. They do
>>> not have an "outside" that could ever been seen from a point of view and
>>> thus to think of them as if they do, such as the concept of a space full of
>>> them (which implies mutual displacement) if to think of them as atoms that
>>> are exclusively "outside view" defined. Within the Monadology all concepts
>>> that imply an "outside view" are strictly defined in terms of appearances
>>> from the inside.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/22/2012 9:09 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote:
>>>
>>> Roger,
>>>
>>> Space is not empty. It is full of monads at 10^90/cc.
>>> These are the building blocks of space in integration-information theory.
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
>>>
  Hi Richard Ruquist
  You need to study the monadology. And the history of modern physics.
  Space does not physically exist for L (as for us) because it is
 empty, as the Milligan-whatshisname
 experiment proved a century ago. The notion of an ether is a fantasy.
 It doesn't exist.
 Photons just go from A to B through a quantum or mathematical
 wavefield, not an actual one.
   Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
 8/22/2012
 Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so
 everything could function."

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 *From:* Richard Ruquist 
 *Receiver:* everything-list 
 *Time:* 2012-08-22, 07:06:07
 *Subject:* Re: NewsFlash: Monadic weather today will be cloudy with a
 chance ofthunderstorms

 Roger, " monads are by definition nonlocal " does not mean that " space
 does not exist". Your logic is faulty.
 Richard


 On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:31 AM, Roger Clough wrote:

>  Hi benjayk
>  In monadic theory,�since space does not exist, monads are by
> definition nonlocal, thus all minds in a sense are one
> and can commune with one another as well as with God (the mind behind
> the supreme monad).
>  The clarity of intercommunication will of course depend, of course,
> on the sensitivity of the monads, their intelligence,
> and how "near" (resonant) their partners are, as well as other
> factors�such as whether or not its
> a clear�monadic weather day.
>  Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
> 8/22/2012
> Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so
> everything could function."
>
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> *From:* benjayk 
> *Receiver:* everything-list 
> *Time:* 2012-08-21, 17:24:01
> *Subject:* Re: Simple proof that our intelligence transcends that of
> computers
>
>  meekerdb wrote:
> >
> > "This sentence cannot be confirmed to be true by a human being."
>>

Re: Re: Re: Re: NewsFlash: Monadic weather today will be cloudy withachanceofthunderstorms

2012-08-23 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Richard Ruquist 

Monads are reference to things, are like bookmarks.
They aren't the things themselves. How many times
do I have tio keep explaining this to you ?


Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
8/23/2012 
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so everything 
could function."
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From: Richard Ruquist 
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Time: 2012-08-23, 11:10:48
Subject: Re: Re: Re: NewsFlash: Monadic weather today will be cloudy 
withachanceofthunderstorms


How do you know that?


On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Roger Clough  wrote:

Hi Richard Ruquist 

Monads are simply a smart bunch of ASCII characters.

Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
8/23/2012 
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so everything 
could function."
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From: Richard Ruquist 
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Time: 2012-08-23, 07:05:17
Subject: Re: Re: NewsFlash: Monadic weather today will be cloudy with 
achanceofthunderstorms


Roger, 


Please tell us how you know that.


If you refer back to Leibniz, 
then you are treating 
science like a religion, 
making Liebniz into a prophet
that must be believed.
Richard 


On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 6:57 AM, Roger Clough  wrote:

Hi Stephen P. King 

Monads are inextended, so can have no spatial presence.


Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
8/23/2012 
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so everything 
could function."
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From: Stephen P. King 
Receiver: everything-list 
Time: 2012-08-22, 10:58:42
Subject: Re: NewsFlash: Monadic weather today will be cloudy with a 
chanceofthunderstorms


Dear Roger,

You are being inconsistent to the very definition of a monad. They do not 
have an "outside" that could ever been seen from a point of view and thus to 
think of them as if they do, such as the concept of a space full of them (which 
implies mutual displacement) if to think of them as atoms that are exclusively 
"outside view" defined. Within the Monadology all concepts that imply an 
"outside view" are strictly defined in terms of appearances from the inside.


On 8/22/2012 9:09 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote:

Roger, 


Space is not empty. It is full of monads at 10^90/cc.
These are the building blocks of space in integration-information theory.
Richard


On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Roger Clough  wrote:

Hi Richard Ruquist 
 
You need to study the monadology. And the history of modern physics.
 
Space does not physically exist for L (as for us) because it is empty, as the 
Milligan-whatshisname 
experiment proved a century ago. The notion of an ether is a fantasy. It 
doesn't exist.
Photons just go from A to B through a quantum or mathematical wavefield, not an 
actual one.
 
 
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
8/22/2012 
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so everything 
could function."
- Receiving the following content - 
From: Richard Ruquist 
Receiver: everything-list 
Time: 2012-08-22, 07:06:07
Subject: Re: NewsFlash: Monadic weather today will be cloudy with a chance 
ofthunderstorms


Roger, " monads are by definition nonlocal " does not mean that " space does 
not exist". Your logic is faulty. 
Richard 



On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:31 AM, Roger Clough  wrote:

Hi benjayk 
In monadic theory,?ince space does not exist, monads are by definition 
nonlocal, thus all minds in a sense are one
and can commune with one another as well as with God (the mind behind the 
supreme monad). 
The clarity of intercommunication will of course depend, of course, on the 
sensitivity of the monads, their intelligence,
and how "near" (resonant) their partners are, as well as other factors?uch as 
whether or not its
a clear?onadic weather day.
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
8/22/2012 
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so everything 
could function."
- Receiving the following content - 
From: benjayk 
Receiver: everything-list 
Time: 2012-08-21, 17:24:01
Subject: Re: Simple proof that our intelligence transcends that of computers


meekerdb wrote:
> 
> "This sentence cannot be confirmed to be true by a human being."
> 
> The Computer
> 

He might be right in saying that (See my response to Saibal).
But it can't confirm it as well (how could it, since we as humans can't
confirm it and what he knows about us derives from what we program into
it?). So still, it is less capable than a human.
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