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From: Telmo Menezes
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Time: 2012-12-16, 06:16:47
Subject: Re: Re: Re: life is teleological
Hi Roger,
Man has no purpose (wise or foolish, it doesn't matter) in life ?
He has evolved, hasn't he ? So man is at least one example of
purpose
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*Time:* 2012-12-13, 11:30:40
*Subject:* Re: Re: life is teleological
Hi Roger,
To be purposeful you need a self or center of
consciousness to desire that goal or purpose.
The key word is desire. Stones don't desire.
Ok
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
It is the infinities you need to say always NO to the doctor despite each
year he lowers the level of its digital brains. I can understand you say no
to the doctor who proposes you a 16K brain-computer, but why saying no
On 16 Dec 2012, at 17:22, Richard Ruquist wrote:
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
wrote:
It is the infinities you need to say always NO to the doctor
despite each
year he lowers the level of its digital brains. I can understand
you say no
to the doctor who
Clough], [rcl...@verizon.net] javascript:
12/13/2012
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*Time:* 2012-12-12, 15:41:47
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*Time:* 2012-12-12, 15:43:15
*Subject:* Re: life is teleological
On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 11:56:39 AM UTC-5
Hi Roger,
Anything goal-oriented is teleological, which is what
the word means. And the goal of life is to survive.
So evolution is teleological.
Sorry but I don't agree that life or evolution have a goal. That would be a
bit like saying that the goal of gravity is to attract chunks of matter
On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 2:48:31 PM UTC-5, Terren Suydam wrote:
Hi Telmo,
I agree with everything you said. However, a goal is something that can
only be formulated in some kind of mind - it's a mental construct. So to
say life has a goal makes no sense, *except* as the implicit
On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 11:56:39 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote:
Hi Craig Weinberg
Anything goal-oriented is teleological, which is what
the word means. And the goal of life is to survive.
So evolution is teleological.
In other words, life is intelligent.
Just repeating my
Hi Tarren,
Yup, we're in agreement.
I agree with everything you said. However, a goal is something that can
only be formulated in some kind of mind - it's a mental construct. So to
say life has a goal makes no sense, *except* as the implicit statement
that e.g. we interpret that life's goal
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