Re: time sampling

2005-05-27 Thread aet.radal ssg
I don't know who first came up with the idea, but this is one of my research 
areas and I'm not surprised at all by the findings of that the scientists 
reported in the article. Music has been said to release more endorphins in the 
brain than sex, and probably more than at any other time in history, music 
plays an over arching predominate role in our lives.

The observations that it was "a simple song with lots of repetition and an 
unexpected shift is among the most likely to bedevil you", is interesting 
because of my research into how synchronous music and visuals affect people. In 
that case, the more in synch (ie. "simple")but also with unexpected intervals, 
the piece was, the higher the rate of "repeatability", meaning the more it was 
remembered and desired to be viewed again. 

As for Jahn and Dunne's description for the process, I don't have a problem 
with that idea as a part of what consciousness does. Clearly though, the brain 
does seem to store data, to a significant degree, however.

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From: rmiller 
To: everything-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: time sampling 
Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 22:21:12 -0500 

> 
> Scientists are interested in why the auditory cortex can act like 
> an iPOD. . .<> Seems when 
> you hear the music, even in your mind--it takes you back to the 
> first time you heard that song. Moon Riiver. . . 
> 
> Ahem. 
> In their book *Margins of Reality* Princeton Researchers Jahn and 
> Dunne suggested that consciousness may behave like a quantum wave 
> function---the upshot being that memory is not a database or a 
> neural lookup table (my words, not theirs) but rather is the result 
> of consciousness sampling the past. When I asked Dunne in '95 
> where and Jahn came up with such an idea, she replied, in typical 
> Dunne fashion, "Seemed like a good idea at the time." 
> 
> Of course. 
> 
> When pressed, she thought that the idea actually came from an 
> Italian physicist---possibly Flavia Ravelli. 
> 
> The idea of the brain as a RF receiver has been around a long 
> while, but this was the first I'd heard of consciousness as a wave 
> function sampling various areas of block space. Anyone happen to 
> know the source of this concept? 
> 
> RMiller 

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Re: time sampling

2005-05-26 Thread rmiller
Scientists are interested in why the auditory cortex can act like an iPOD. 
. .<>   Seems when you hear the 
music, even in your mind--it takes you back to the first time you heard 
that song. Moon Riiver. . .


Ahem.
In their book *Margins of Reality* Princeton Researchers Jahn and Dunne 
suggested that consciousness may behave like a quantum wave function---the 
upshot being that memory is not a database or a neural lookup table (my 
words, not theirs) but rather is the result of consciousness sampling the 
past.  When I asked Dunne in '95 where and Jahn came up with such an idea, 
she replied, in typical Dunne fashion, "Seemed like a good idea at the 
time."


Of course.

When pressed, she thought that the idea actually came from an Italian 
physicist---possibly Flavia Ravelli.


The idea of the brain as a RF receiver has been around a long while, but 
this was the first I'd heard of consciousness as a wave function sampling 
various areas of block space.  Anyone happen to know the source of this 
concept?


RMiller