RE: The stupid legacy of another crackpot, Roger Clough

2013-08-03 Thread Chris de Morsella
A link to some video is all you got?

Small potatoes in terms of evidence my dear fellow.

 

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[mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alberto G. Corona 
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 12:56 AM
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The stupid legacy of another crackpot, Roger Clough

 

Just look at the video. Search for yourself and think. I have no interest
neither is worth the effort to convince peopelle that overreact in such a
way

El 03/08/2013 00:42, "Chris de Morsella"  escribió:

When challenged to produce some actual body of evidence to back up your
wholesale character assassination of Rachel Carlson (you claimed she just
made up her research on DDT) - this is all you can do? Surely there must be
hundreds of cited papers and reams of data available for you to cite to back
your words up. 

 

You certainly found the time to spread the nasty slanderous accusation that
YOU MADE; interesting how you cannot seem to find the time to dig up any
actual facts, data or evidence to back it up with. By choosing to this
behavior, intellectually, you color yourself a clown.

 

I will add nothing more to this off topic

 

 

From: Alberto G. Corona 
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2013 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: The stupid legacy of another crackpot, Roger Clough

 

The video that I linked is a good debunk of al the Carson paranoia. By a
known scientist, not an enemy of humanity or people´s enemy  like me, well
paid by the forces of Evil.

 

I will add nothing more to this off topic

 

2013/8/2 Chris de Morsella 

So "progressives" are now lumped together with Mao... in your brain so
glad I do not have to live inside that place you call home.

 

You are also wrong about why DDT spraying is no longer being used to control
the Malaria mosquito (and other tropical disease spreading mosquito
species). As has been amply pointed out, the driving factor in these
decisions to stop using DDT, in cases where this has occurred, across both
Asia, Africa and elsewhere, has, in fact, been the rapid rise of resistance
to DDT in the targeted mosquito species. Perhaps rightwing nut jobs cannot
seem to comprehend this rise in resistance because they -- emphatically --
do not believe in evolution and so find it difficult to understand how over
the span of many generations, being slathered with a specific poisons a
species will evolve a resistance.



On Friday, August 2, 2013 12:47:27 PM UTC-4, spudb...@aol.com wrote:

On DDT, because it hasn't been used in Africa to supress the Anopholes
misquito, millions have died. and yeah, Craig, it was to assuage
Progressive's sensibilities, so we won't have a "Silent Spring." It reminds
me of Mao's Great Leap Forward from 1958-62 which caused a famine in China
costing 36 million lives. Courtesy, the progressive policies of Mao. If
you're going to own environmental safety, then you're going to own the
failure of planning conducted by progressive orgs world-wide. This isn't a
matter of opinion, its a matter of fact. So much for the scientific
socialism that progressives have willingly inherited. 

 

Mitch



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Sent: Fri, Aug 2, 2013 12:29 pm
Subject: Re: The stupid legacy of another crackpot, Roger Clough

No, it wuz the Libruls and their evil propaganda against delicious DDT. 

On Friday, August 2, 2013 1:35:31 AM UTC-4, freqflyer07281972 wrote: 

 Because of Roger Clough, a less than mediocre Lutheran apologist who
considers himself an astute interpreter of Leibniz, a formerly bright corner
of the internet, the Everything List, has gone mostly dark due to the
intellectual torpor and carelessness that seems to surround everything
Clough says like the clouds of pestilence that surround the four horses of
the apocalypse. 

I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Roger is a rather lonely man who feels
empty inside and yet also feels an irrational compulsion to flee this
emptiness by trying hard to wrap it up in pseudo-profound mumbo jumbo and
foist it on poor, unsuspecting readers of reading lists.

RIP Everything List 

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Re: The stupid legacy of another crackpot, Roger Clough

2013-08-03 Thread Alberto G. Corona
Just look at the video. Search for yourself and think. I have no interest
neither is worth the effort to convince peopelle that overreact in such a
way
El 03/08/2013 00:42, "Chris de Morsella"  escribió:

> When challenged to produce some actual body of evidence to back up your
> wholesale character assassination of Rachel Carlson (you claimed she just
> made up her research on DDT) - this is all you can do? Surely there must
> be hundreds of cited papers and reams of data available for you to cite to
> back your words up.
>
> You certainly found the time to spread the nasty slanderous accusation
> that YOU MADE; interesting how you cannot seem to find the time to dig up
> any actual facts, data or evidence to back it up with. By choosing to this
> behavior, intellectually, you color yourself a clown.
>
> I will add nothing more to this off topic
>
>
>*From:* Alberto G. Corona 
> *To:* everything-list@googlegroups.com
> *Sent:* Friday, August 2, 2013 3:15 PM
> *Subject:* Re: The stupid legacy of another crackpot, Roger Clough
>
> The video that I linked is a good debunk of al the Carson paranoia. By a
> known scientist, not an enemy of humanity or people´s enemy  like me, well
> paid by the forces of Evil.
>
> I will add nothing more to this off topic
>
>
> 2013/8/2 Chris de Morsella 
>
> So "progressives" are now lumped together with Mao... in your brain so
> glad I do not have to live inside that place you call home.
>
> You are also wrong about why DDT spraying is no longer being used to
> control the Malaria mosquito (and other tropical disease spreading mosquito
> species). As has been amply pointed out, the driving factor in these
> decisions to stop using DDT, in cases where this has occurred, across both
> Asia, Africa and elsewhere, has, in fact, been the rapid rise of resistance
> to DDT in the targeted mosquito species. Perhaps rightwing nut jobs cannot
> seem to comprehend this rise in resistance because they -- emphatically --
> do not believe in evolution and so find it difficult to understand how over
> the span of many generations, being slathered with a specific poisons a
> species will evolve a resistance.
>
>
> On Friday, August 2, 2013 12:47:27 PM UTC-4, spudb...@aol.com wrote:
>
>  On DDT, because it hasn't been used in Africa to supress the Anopholes
> misquito, millions have died. and yeah, Craig, it was to assuage
> Progressive's sensibilities, so we won't have a "Silent Spring." It reminds
> me of Mao's Great Leap Forward from 1958-62 which caused a famine in China
> costing 36 million lives. Courtesy, the progressive policies of Mao. If
> you're going to own environmental safety, then you're going to own the
> failure of planning conducted by progressive orgs world-wide. This isn't a
> matter of opinion, its a matter of fact. So much for the scientific
> socialism that progressives have willingly inherited.
>
> Mitch
>
>
>  -Original Message-
> From: Craig Weinberg 
> To: everything-list 
> Sent: Fri, Aug 2, 2013 12:29 pm
> Subject: Re: The stupid legacy of another crackpot, Roger Clough
>
> No, it wuz the Libruls and their evil propaganda against delicious DDT.
>
> On Friday, August 2, 2013 1:35:31 AM UTC-4, freqflyer07281972 wrote:
>
>  Because of Roger Clough, a less than mediocre Lutheran apologist who
> considers himself an astute interpreter of Leibniz, a formerly bright
> corner of the internet, the Everything List, has gone mostly dark due to
> the intellectual torpor and carelessness that seems to surround everything
> Clough says like the clouds of pestilence that surround the four horses of
> the apocalypse.
>
> I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Roger is a rather lonely man who
> feels empty inside and yet also feels an irrational compulsion to flee this
> emptiness by trying hard to wrap it up in pseudo-profound mumbo jumbo and
> foist it on poor, unsuspecting readers of reading lists.
>
> RIP Everything List
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Re: The stupid legacy of another crackpot, Roger Clough

2013-08-02 Thread chris peck
Yep. He was.

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On 8/2/2013 5:27 PM, chris peck wrote:
> By the way, Michael Crichton, the man whose video you turn to, was a liberal. 
> You know
> that, right?

He's a global warming denier.

Brent

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Re: The stupid legacy of another crackpot, Roger Clough

2013-08-02 Thread meekerdb

On 8/2/2013 5:27 PM, chris peck wrote:
By the way, Michael Crichton, the man whose video you turn to, was a liberal. You know 
that, right?


He's a global warming denier.

Brent

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Re: The stupid legacy of another crackpot, Roger Clough

2013-08-02 Thread chris peck
Hi Alberto

A video of one man questioning Carson's conclusions doesnt support the claim 
she fabricated evidence. All it does is show that some scientists disagree with 
her results. Not unusual in science. Of course sceptics will argue 
evironmentalism is politicised science. Given that most of the evidence 
counters the sceptic he has no where else to run and has to resort to political 
name calling. Its an attempt by the sceptic to divert the debate away from the 
science.

By the way, Michael Crichton, the man whose video you turn to, was a liberal. 
You know that, right?

Attacking liberals whilst depending on them isnt a good look.

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From: "Alberto G. Corona" 
Sent: 3 August 2013 8:16 AM
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The stupid legacy of another crackpot, Roger Clough

The video that I linked is a good debunk of al the Carson paranoia. By a
known scientist, not an enemy of humanity or people´s enemy  like me, well
paid by the forces of Evil.

I will add nothing more to this off topic


2013/8/2 Chris de Morsella 

> So "progressives" are now lumped together with Mao... in your brain so
> glad I do not have to live inside that place you call home.
>
> You are also wrong about why DDT spraying is no longer being used to
> control the Malaria mosquito (and other tropical disease spreading mosquito
> species). As has been amply pointed out, the driving factor in these
> decisions to stop using DDT, in cases where this has occurred, across both
> Asia, Africa and elsewhere, has, in fact, been the rapid rise of resistance
> to DDT in the targeted mosquito species. Perhaps rightwing nut jobs cannot
> seem to comprehend this rise in resistance because they -- emphatically --
> do not believe in evolution and so find it difficult to understand how over
> the span of many generations, being slathered with a specific poisons a
> species will evolve a resistance.
>
>
> On Friday, August 2, 2013 12:47:27 PM UTC-4, spudb...@aol.com wrote:
>
>  On DDT, because it hasn't been used in Africa to supress the Anopholes
> misquito, millions have died. and yeah, Craig, it was to assuage
> Progressive's sensibilities, so we won't have a "Silent Spring." It reminds
> me of Mao's Great Leap Forward from 1958-62 which caused a famine in China
> costing 36 million lives. Courtesy, the progressive policies of Mao. If
> you're going to own environmental safety, then you're going to own the
> failure of planning conducted by progressive orgs world-wide. This isn't a
> matter of opinion, its a matter of fact. So much for the scientific
> socialism that progressives have willingly inherited.
>
> Mitch
>
>
>  -Original Message-
> From: Craig Weinberg 
> To: everything-list 
> Sent: Fri, Aug 2, 2013 12:29 pm
> Subject: Re: The stupid legacy of another crackpot, Roger Clough
>
> No, it wuz the Libruls and their evil propaganda against delicious DDT.
>
> On Friday, August 2, 2013 1:35:31 AM UTC-4, freqflyer07281972 wrote:
>
>  Because of Roger Clough, a less than mediocre Lutheran apologist who
> considers himself an astute interpreter of Leibniz, a formerly bright
> corner of the internet, the Everything List, has gone mostly dark due to
> the intellectual torpor and carelessness that seems to surround everything
> Clough says like the clouds of pestilence that surround the four horses of
> the apocalypse.
>
> I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Roger is a rather lonely man who
> feels empty inside and yet also feels an irrational compulsion to flee this
> emptiness by trying hard to wrap it up in pseudo-profound mumbo jumbo and
> foist it on poor, unsuspecting readers of reading lists.
>
> RIP Everything List
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Re: The stupid legacy of another crackpot, Roger Clough

2013-08-02 Thread Chris de Morsella
When challenged to produce some actual body of evidence to back up your 
wholesale character assassination of Rachel Carlson (you claimed she just made 
up her research on DDT) - this is all you can do? Surely there must be hundreds 
of cited papers and reams of data available for you to cite to back your words 
up. 
 
You certainly found the time to spread the nasty slanderous accusation that YOU 
MADE; interesting how you cannot seem to find the time to dig up any actual 
facts, data or evidence to back it up with. By choosing to this behavior, 
intellectually, you color yourself a clown.
 
I will add nothing more to this off topic
 
  


 From: Alberto G. Corona 
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2013 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: The stupid legacy of another crackpot, Roger Clough
  


The video that I linked is a good debunk of al the Carson paranoia. By a known 
scientist, not an enemy of humanity or people´s enemy  like me, well paid by 
the forces of Evil.

I will add nothing more to this off topic 



2013/8/2 Chris de Morsella 

So "progressives" are now lumped together with Mao... in your brain so glad 
I do not have to live inside that place you call home. 
> 
>You are also wrong about why DDT spraying is no longer being used to control 
>the Malaria mosquito (and other tropical disease spreading mosquito species). 
>As has been amply pointed out, the driving factor in these decisions to stop 
>using DDT, in cases where this has occurred, across both Asia, Africa and 
>elsewhere, has, in fact, been the rapid rise of resistance to DDT in the 
>targeted mosquito species. Perhaps rightwing nut jobs cannot seem to 
>comprehend this rise in resistance because they -- emphatically -- do not 
>believe in evolution and so find it difficult to understand how over the span 
>of many generations, being slathered with a specific poisons a species will 
>evolve a resistance.
>
>
>On Friday, August 2, 2013 12:47:27 PM UTC-4, spudb...@aol.com wrote: 
>On DDT, because it hasn't been used in Africa to supress the Anopholes 
>misquito, millions have died. and yeah, Craig, it was to assuage Progressive's 
>sensibilities, so we won't have a "Silent Spring." It reminds me of Mao's 
>Great Leap Forward from 1958-62 which caused a famine in China costing 36 
>million lives. Courtesy, the progressive policies of Mao. If you're going to 
>own environmental safety, then you're going to own the failure of planning 
>conducted by progressive orgs world-wide. This isn't a matter of opinion, its 
>a matter of fact. So much for the scientific socialism that progressives have 
>willingly inherited.  
>>
>>Mitch
>>
>>
>> 
>>-----Original Message-
>>From: Craig Weinberg 
>>To: everything-list 
>>Sent: Fri, Aug 2, 2013 12:29 pm
>>Subject: Re: The stupid legacy of another crackpot, Roger Clough
>>
>>
>>No, it wuz the Libruls and their evil propaganda against delicious DDT. 
>>
>>On Friday, August 2, 2013 1:35:31 AM UTC-4, freqflyer07281972 wrote: 
>> Because of Roger Clough, a less than mediocre Lutheran apologist who 
>>considers himself an astute interpreter of Leibniz, a formerly bright corner 
>>of the internet, the Everything List, has gone mostly dark due to the 
>>intellectual torpor and carelessness that seems to surround everything Clough 
>>says like the clouds of pestilence that surround the four horses of the 
>>apocalypse. 
>>>
>>>I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Roger is a rather lonely man who feels 
>>>empty inside and yet also feels an irrational compulsion to flee this 
>>>emptiness by trying hard to wrap it up in pseudo-profound mumbo jumbo and 
>>>foist it on poor, unsuspecting readers of reading lists.
>>>
>>>RIP Everything List 
>>> 
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Re: The stupid legacy of another crackpot, Roger Clough

2013-08-02 Thread Alberto G. Corona
The video that I linked is a good debunk of al the Carson paranoia. By a
known scientist, not an enemy of humanity or people´s enemy  like me, well
paid by the forces of Evil.

I will add nothing more to this off topic


2013/8/2 Chris de Morsella 

> So "progressives" are now lumped together with Mao... in your brain so
> glad I do not have to live inside that place you call home.
>
> You are also wrong about why DDT spraying is no longer being used to
> control the Malaria mosquito (and other tropical disease spreading mosquito
> species). As has been amply pointed out, the driving factor in these
> decisions to stop using DDT, in cases where this has occurred, across both
> Asia, Africa and elsewhere, has, in fact, been the rapid rise of resistance
> to DDT in the targeted mosquito species. Perhaps rightwing nut jobs cannot
> seem to comprehend this rise in resistance because they -- emphatically --
> do not believe in evolution and so find it difficult to understand how over
> the span of many generations, being slathered with a specific poisons a
> species will evolve a resistance.
>
>
> On Friday, August 2, 2013 12:47:27 PM UTC-4, spudb...@aol.com wrote:
>
>  On DDT, because it hasn't been used in Africa to supress the Anopholes
> misquito, millions have died. and yeah, Craig, it was to assuage
> Progressive's sensibilities, so we won't have a "Silent Spring." It reminds
> me of Mao's Great Leap Forward from 1958-62 which caused a famine in China
> costing 36 million lives. Courtesy, the progressive policies of Mao. If
> you're going to own environmental safety, then you're going to own the
> failure of planning conducted by progressive orgs world-wide. This isn't a
> matter of opinion, its a matter of fact. So much for the scientific
> socialism that progressives have willingly inherited.
>
> Mitch
>
>
>  -----Original Message-
> From: Craig Weinberg 
> To: everything-list 
> Sent: Fri, Aug 2, 2013 12:29 pm
> Subject: Re: The stupid legacy of another crackpot, Roger Clough
>
> No, it wuz the Libruls and their evil propaganda against delicious DDT.
>
> On Friday, August 2, 2013 1:35:31 AM UTC-4, freqflyer07281972 wrote:
>
>  Because of Roger Clough, a less than mediocre Lutheran apologist who
> considers himself an astute interpreter of Leibniz, a formerly bright
> corner of the internet, the Everything List, has gone mostly dark due to
> the intellectual torpor and carelessness that seems to surround everything
> Clough says like the clouds of pestilence that surround the four horses of
> the apocalypse.
>
> I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Roger is a rather lonely man who
> feels empty inside and yet also feels an irrational compulsion to flee this
> emptiness by trying hard to wrap it up in pseudo-profound mumbo jumbo and
> foist it on poor, unsuspecting readers of reading lists.
>
> RIP Everything List
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Re: The stupid legacy of another crackpot, Roger Clough

2013-08-02 Thread Chris de Morsella
So "progressives" are now lumped together with Mao... in your brain so glad 
I do not have to live inside that place you call home.
 
You are also wrong about why DDT spraying is no longer being used to control 
the Malaria mosquito (and other tropical disease spreading mosquito species). 
As has been amply pointed out, the driving factor in these decisions to stop 
using DDT, in cases where this has occurred, across both Asia, Africa and 
elsewhere, has, in fact, been the rapid rise of resistance to DDT in the 
targeted mosquito species. Perhaps rightwing nut jobs cannot seem to comprehend 
this rise in resistance because they -- emphatically -- do not believe in 
evolution and so find it difficult to understand how over the span of many 
generations, being slathered with a specific poisons a species will evolve a 
resistance.


On Friday, August 2, 2013 12:47:27 PM UTC-4, spudb...@aol.com wrote:
On DDT, because it hasn't been used in Africa to supress the Anopholes 
misquito, millions have died. and yeah, Craig, it was to assuage Progressive's 
sensibilities, so we won't have a "Silent Spring." It reminds me of Mao's Great 
Leap Forward from 1958-62 which caused a famine in China costing 36 million 
lives. Courtesy, the progressive policies of Mao. If you're going to own 
environmental safety, then you're going to own the failure of planning 
conducted by progressive orgs world-wide. This isn't a matter of opinion, its a 
matter of fact. So much for the scientific socialism that progressives have 
willingly inherited.  
>
>Mitch
>
>
> 
>-Original Message-
>From: Craig Weinberg 
>To: everything-list 
>Sent: Fri, Aug 2, 2013 12:29 pm
>Subject: Re: The stupid legacy of another crackpot, Roger Clough
>
>
>No, it wuz the Libruls and their evil propaganda against delicious DDT. 
>
>On Friday, August 2, 2013 1:35:31 AM UTC-4, freqflyer07281972 wrote: 
> Because of Roger Clough, a less than mediocre Lutheran apologist who 
>considers himself an astute interpreter of Leibniz, a formerly bright corner 
>of the internet, the Everything List, has gone mostly dark due to the 
>intellectual torpor and carelessness that seems to surround everything Clough 
>says like the clouds of pestilence that surround the four horses of the 
>apocalypse. 
>>
>>I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Roger is a rather lonely man who feels 
>>empty inside and yet also feels an irrational compulsion to flee this 
>>emptiness by trying hard to wrap it up in pseudo-profound mumbo jumbo and 
>>foist it on poor, unsuspecting readers of reading lists.
>>
>>RIP Everything List 
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Re: The stupid legacy of another crackpot, Roger Clough

2013-08-02 Thread Chris de Morsella
Still waiting for the prognosticator Roger to produce -- some actual peer 
reviewed cited work -- that provides some actual evidence to back up his ugly 
character assassination of Rachel Carlson and her most well known body of work. 
Roger has made the claim she made it all up about DDT -- show us how this is so 
Roger if you can? 
 
Me thinks I smell the sulphurous odor of a troll
 
P.S. Been following this list off and on -- for around 5 or so years -- swing 
by this corner of the internets (thank you W for that gem) when I need my 
physics/philosophy fix and have enjoyed many of the threads on here (and 
learned a few things too) Hate to see it go downhill dragged into the gutter of 
talking point fixated fuax debate hell.  What joy is there in that? What fruit 
can possibly be found there... in that barren thought free zone where discourse 
degenerates into LOUD shouting matches, parroting current party line talking 
points. Such grey tedium and stultifying oppressive boredom both suffocating 
and uninteresting at the same time, wrapped up & delivered in the same over 
used ostentatiously angry accusatory "blame the libtards" faux noise speak that 
is the hallmark of this tiresome abuse of words & language.
 
  


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No, it wuz the Libruls and their evil propaganda against delicious DDT. 

On Friday, August 2, 2013 1:35:31 AM UTC-4, freqflyer07281972 wrote:
 Because of Roger Clough, a less than mediocre Lutheran apologist who considers 
himself an astute interpreter of Leibniz, a formerly bright corner of the 
internet, the Everything List, has gone mostly dark due to the intellectual 
torpor and carelessness that seems to surround everything Clough says like the 
clouds of pestilence that surround the four horses of the apocalypse. 
>
>I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Roger is a rather lonely man who feels 
>empty inside and yet also feels an irrational compulsion to flee this 
>emptiness by trying hard to wrap it up in pseudo-profound mumbo jumbo and 
>foist it on poor, unsuspecting readers of reading lists.
>
>RIP Everything List 
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Re: The stupid legacy of another crackpot, Roger Clough

2013-08-02 Thread freqflyer07281972
Ha! This, coming from the crackpot's favorite sock puppet. Gotta say, after 
having followed this list for, oh, I don't know, about 5 years, I find it 
amusing that 'spudboy100' always seems to evince more or less the same 
'views' as the crackpot, albeit in more watered down form (ya, I know, like 
things could be more watered down than the runny pablum that pours from 
Roger's mind, but whatever) It's kind of like reading Bishop Berkeley's 
"Three Dialogues," but infinitely worse...

On Friday, August 2, 2013 12:47:27 PM UTC-4, spudb...@aol.com wrote:
>
> On DDT, because it hasn't been used in Africa to supress the Anopholes 
> misquito, millions have died. and yeah, Craig, it was to assuage 
> Progressive's sensibilities, so we won't have a "Silent Spring." It reminds 
> me of Mao's Great Leap Forward from 1958-62 which caused a famine in China 
> costing 36 million lives. Courtesy, the progressive policies of Mao. If 
> you're going to own environmental safety, then you're going to own the 
> failure of planning conducted by progressive orgs world-wide. This isn't a 
> matter of opinion, its a matter of fact. So much for the scientific 
> socialism that progressives have willingly inherited. 
>  
> Mitch
>
>
>  -Original Message-----
> From: Craig Weinberg >
> To: everything-list >
> Sent: Fri, Aug 2, 2013 12:29 pm
> Subject: Re: The stupid legacy of another crackpot, Roger Clough
>
> No, it wuz the Libruls and their evil propaganda against delicious DDT. 
>
> On Friday, August 2, 2013 1:35:31 AM UTC-4, freqflyer07281972 wrote: 
>>
>>  Because of Roger Clough, a less than mediocre Lutheran apologist who 
>> considers himself an astute interpreter of Leibniz, a formerly bright 
>> corner of the internet, the Everything List, has gone mostly dark due to 
>> the intellectual torpor and carelessness that seems to surround everything 
>> Clough says like the clouds of pestilence that surround the four horses of 
>> the apocalypse. 
>>
>> I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Roger is a rather lonely man who 
>> feels empty inside and yet also feels an irrational compulsion to flee this 
>> emptiness by trying hard to wrap it up in pseudo-profound mumbo jumbo and 
>> foist it on poor, unsuspecting readers of reading lists.
>>
>> RIP Everything List 
>>
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Re: The stupid legacy of another crackpot, Roger Clough

2013-08-02 Thread Craig Weinberg
it must be combined with other interventions, including ACT. The furor 
> over DDT has undoubtedly hampered efforts to provide better access to 
> antimalarial drugs. When another malaria expert met with Senate staffers to 
> discuss malaria in 2004 and 2005, they badgered him about DDT. “I tried to 
> explain the reality,” he says, “and people in the U.S. say ‘That’s not what 
> I was told.’” “DDT has become a fetish,” adds Allan Schapira of WHO. “You 
> have people advocating DDT as if it’s the only insecticide that works 
> against malaria, as if DDT would solve all problems, which is obviously 
> absolutely unrealistic.”
>

plenty more...

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2012/09/silent_spring_turns_50_biographer_william_souder_clears_up_myths_about_rachel_carson_.single.html

http://membracid.wordpress.com/2007/06/07/ddt-junk-science-malaria-and-the-attack-on-rachel-carson/


It reminds me of Mao's Great Leap Forward from 1958-62 which caused a 
> famine in China costing 36 million lives. Courtesy, the progressive 
> policies of Mao. If you're going to own environmental safety, then you're 
> going to own the failure of planning conducted by progressive orgs 
> world-wide. This isn't a matter of opinion, its a matter of fact. So much 
> for the scientific socialism that progressives have willingly inherited. 

 
> Mitch
>

So disgusting. Do you really think that disregard for environmental safety 
and lack of planning is a better option? What form of social organization 
would you prefer, and how does it differ from Feudalism?

Craig
 

>
>
>  -Original Message-
> From: Craig Weinberg >
> To: everything-list >
> Sent: Fri, Aug 2, 2013 12:29 pm
> Subject: Re: The stupid legacy of another crackpot, Roger Clough
>
> No, it wuz the Libruls and their evil propaganda against delicious DDT. 
>
> On Friday, August 2, 2013 1:35:31 AM UTC-4, freqflyer07281972 wrote: 
>>
>>  Because of Roger Clough, a less than mediocre Lutheran apologist who 
>> considers himself an astute interpreter of Leibniz, a formerly bright 
>> corner of the internet, the Everything List, has gone mostly dark due to 
>> the intellectual torpor and carelessness that seems to surround everything 
>> Clough says like the clouds of pestilence that surround the four horses of 
>> the apocalypse. 
>>
>> I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Roger is a rather lonely man who 
>> feels empty inside and yet also feels an irrational compulsion to flee this 
>> emptiness by trying hard to wrap it up in pseudo-profound mumbo jumbo and 
>> foist it on poor, unsuspecting readers of reading lists.
>>
>> RIP Everything List 
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Re: The stupid legacy of another crackpot, Roger Clough

2013-08-02 Thread spudboy100

On DDT, because it hasn't been used in Africa to supress the Anopholes 
misquito, millions have died. and yeah, Craig, it was to assuage Progressive's 
sensibilities, so we won't have a "Silent Spring." It reminds me of Mao's Great 
Leap Forward from 1958-62 which caused a famine in China costing 36 million 
lives. Courtesy, the progressive policies of Mao. If you're going to own 
environmental safety, then you're going to own the failure of planning 
conducted by progressive orgs world-wide. This isn't a matter of opinion, its a 
matter of fact. So much for the scientific socialism that progressives have 
willingly inherited. 

Mitch



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From: Craig Weinberg 
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Sent: Fri, Aug 2, 2013 12:29 pm
Subject: Re: The stupid legacy of another crackpot, Roger Clough


No, it wuz the Libruls and their evil propaganda against delicious DDT. 

On Friday, August 2, 2013 1:35:31 AM UTC-4, freqflyer07281972 wrote:
 Because of Roger Clough, a less than mediocre Lutheran apologist who considers 
himself an astute interpreter of Leibniz, a formerly bright corner of the 
internet, the Everything List, has gone mostly dark due to the intellectual 
torpor and carelessness that seems to surround everything Clough says like the 
clouds of pestilence that surround the four horses of the apocalypse. 

I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Roger is a rather lonely man who feels 
empty inside and yet also feels an irrational compulsion to flee this emptiness 
by trying hard to wrap it up in pseudo-profound mumbo jumbo and foist it on 
poor, unsuspecting readers of reading lists.

RIP Everything List 


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Re: The stupid legacy of another crackpot, Roger Clough

2013-08-02 Thread Craig Weinberg
No, it wuz the Libruls and their evil propaganda against delicious DDT. 

On Friday, August 2, 2013 1:35:31 AM UTC-4, freqflyer07281972 wrote:
>
>  Because of Roger Clough, a less than mediocre Lutheran apologist who 
> considers himself an astute interpreter of Leibniz, a formerly bright 
> corner of the internet, the Everything List, has gone mostly dark due to 
> the intellectual torpor and carelessness that seems to surround everything 
> Clough says like the clouds of pestilence that surround the four horses of 
> the apocalypse. 
>
> I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Roger is a rather lonely man who 
> feels empty inside and yet also feels an irrational compulsion to flee this 
> emptiness by trying hard to wrap it up in pseudo-profound mumbo jumbo and 
> foist it on poor, unsuspecting readers of reading lists.
>
> RIP Everything List 
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The stupid legacy of another crackpot, Roger Clough

2013-08-01 Thread freqflyer07281972
 Because of Roger Clough, a less than mediocre Lutheran apologist who 
considers himself an astute interpreter of Leibniz, a formerly bright 
corner of the internet, the Everything List, has gone mostly dark due to 
the intellectual torpor and carelessness that seems to surround everything 
Clough says like the clouds of pestilence that surround the four horses of 
the apocalypse. 

I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Roger is a rather lonely man who 
feels empty inside and yet also feels an irrational compulsion to flee this 
emptiness by trying hard to wrap it up in pseudo-profound mumbo jumbo and 
foist it on poor, unsuspecting readers of reading lists.

RIP Everything List 

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