Re: a Sheldrake computer:: the universe as a random + mechanism---> habit computer

2013-01-05 Thread meekerdb
On 1/5/2013 10:38 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Saturday, January 5, 2013 7:10:13 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 03 Jan 2013, at 18:13, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Thursday, January 3, 2013 10:45:01 AM UTC-5, yanniru wrote: BTW my stichk is that consciousness comes

Re: a Sheldrake computer:: the universe as a random + mechanism---> habit computer

2013-01-05 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Saturday, January 5, 2013 7:10:13 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 03 Jan 2013, at 18:13, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > > On Thursday, January 3, 2013 10:45:01 AM UTC-5, yanniru wrote: > > >> BTW my stichk is that consciousness >> comes from discrete compactified space that is arithmet

Re: a Sheldrake computer:: the universe as a random + mechanism---> habit computer

2013-01-05 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 7:10 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 03 Jan 2013, at 18:13, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > > On Thursday, January 3, 2013 10:45:01 AM UTC-5, yanniru wrote: > >> >> BTW my stichk is that consciousness >> comes from discrete compactified space that is arithmetic, in both the >> m

Re: a Sheldrake computer:: the universe as a random + mechanism---> habit computer

2013-01-05 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 03 Jan 2013, at 18:13, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Thursday, January 3, 2013 10:45:01 AM UTC-5, yanniru wrote: BTW my stichk is that consciousness comes from discrete compactified space that is arithmetic, in both the megaverse and in each universe. Richard Why would consciousness come fro

Re: Re: a Sheldrake computer:: the universe as a random + mechanism--->habit computer

2013-01-04 Thread Roger Clough
-01-03, 12:13:16 Subject: Re: a Sheldrake computer:: the universe as a random + mechanism--->habit computer On Thursday, January 3, 2013 10:45:01 AM UTC-5, yanniru wrote: BTW my stichk is that consciousness comes from discrete compactified space that is arithmetic, in both the megavers

Re: Re: a Sheldrake computer:: the universe as a random + mechanism--->habit computer

2013-01-03 Thread Roger Clough
/2013 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." - Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Stephen P. King Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-03, 18:28:26 Subject: Re: a Sheldrake computer:: the universe as a random + mechanism--->habit computer On

Re: a Sheldrake computer:: the universe as a random + mechanism---> habit computer

2013-01-03 Thread Stephen P. King
On 1/3/2013 10:22 AM, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Richard Ruquist My understanding of Sheldrake's results suggests to me that the universe is not like a deterministic great computer, or if it is, the deterministic or mechanical part acts like a filter to incline random motions to more regular ones wh

Re: a Sheldrake computer:: the universe as a random + mechanism---> habit computer

2013-01-03 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Thursday, January 3, 2013 10:45:01 AM UTC-5, yanniru wrote: > BTW my stichk is that consciousness > comes from discrete compactified space that is arithmetic, in both the > megaverse and in each universe. > Richard > > Why would consciousness come from discrete compactified space? To me

Re: Re: a Sheldrake computer:: the universe as a random + mechanism--->habit computer

2013-01-03 Thread Roger Clough
near the end." - Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Richard Ruquist Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-03, 10:45:01 Subject: Re: a Sheldrake computer:: the universe as a random + mechanism--->habit computer Hi Roger Clough, Nova Spivack has two

Re: a Sheldrake computer:: the universe as a random + mechanism---> habit computer

2013-01-03 Thread Richard Ruquist
Hi Roger Clough, Nova Spivack has two linked blogs following the one I copied below in which he argues that since consciousness is not computable, something he takes for granted, then consciousness must be even more fundamental than spacetime. You might find it of interest to read all three linked

a Sheldrake computer:: the universe as a random + mechanism---> habit computer

2013-01-03 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Richard Ruquist My understanding of Sheldrake's results suggests to me that the universe is not like a deterministic great computer, or if it is, the deterministic or mechanical part acts like a filter to incline random motions to more regular ones which Sheldrake calls habits or morphic