Re: computationalism as a form of magic

2013-07-11 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 Roger Clough wrote: > I see computationalism as a form of magic. > The only difference is that one works and the other doesn't. Extispicy (using animal entrails to predict the future) makes use of magic and it doesn't work at all; Newton used computatio

Re: Re: computationalism as a form of magic

2013-07-09 Thread Roger Clough
Time: 2013-07-08, 18:44:36 Subject: Re: computationalism as a form of magic >From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gottfried_Wilhelm_Leibniz > >Computation[edit >] > >Leibniz may have been the first computer scientist and information theorist. >[65] >Early >

Re: computationalism as a form of magic

2013-07-09 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 09 Jul 2013, at 00:44, Jason Resch wrote: From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gottfried_Wilhelm_Leibniz Computation[edit] Leibniz may have been the first computer scientist and information theorist.[65] Early in life, he documented the binary numeral system (base 2), then revisited that

Re: computationalism as a form of magic

2013-07-08 Thread Jason Resch
oving by gravity with shift registers, voltage gradients, and pulses of electrons, but otherwise they run roughly as Leibniz envisioned in 1679. On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 11:15 PM, Roger Clough wrote: > Dear Prof. Tegmark, > > I have been trying to think of a way to make computationalism wo

computationalism as a form of magic

2013-07-05 Thread Roger Clough
Dear Prof. Tegmark, I have been trying to think of a way to make computationalism work but I can see no force that numbers might have on the physical world that might empower them. Instead I see computationalism as a form of magic. Serious magic if you will, but still magic, magic in the sense