Re: contention: theories are incompatible

2005-11-18 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 18-nov.-05, à 05:26, Stephen Paul King a écrit : It seems logical. The Notion of "Everything" is 1st person in the sense that one, any one, can find itself within it. Nothing, on the other hand, only makes sense as seen from some external vantage point, hence it is 3rd person. I can

Re: contention: theories are incompatible

2005-11-17 Thread Stephen Paul King
Nothing. The notion of something requires an "other" against which it is distinguished; there is no "other" in Nothingness. Onward! Stephen - Original Message - From: "Russell Standish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Stephen Paul King" <[EMAIL

Re: contention: theories are incompatible

2005-11-17 Thread Russell Standish
On Thu, Nov 17, 2005 at 10:00:04PM -0500, Stephen Paul King wrote: > Hi James and Russell, > >Could a middle ground be found in the notion that "something" is a > differentiated piece of Nothing, where Everything (1st person notion) and > Nothing (3rd person notion) are one and the same? I

Re: contention: theories are incompatible

2005-11-17 Thread Stephen Paul King
? Onward! Stephen - Original Message - From: "Russell Standish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "James N Rose" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Everything-List List" Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 12:20 AM Subject: Re: contention: theories are incompatible

Re: contention: theories are incompatible

2005-11-16 Thread scerir
From: "James N Rose" > "Conservation" as a 'fundamental rule of condition' > is incompatible and antithetical with any notions > of "many worlds". Are conservation principles only defined in closed systems? Is a 'world' a closed system? There is, i.e., a no-deleting theorem (similar to the no-c

Re: contention: theories are incompatible

2005-11-16 Thread rmiller
At 10:14 PM 11/16/2005, James N Rose wrote: An open hypothesis to list members: "Conservation" as a 'fundamental rule of condition' is incompatible and antithetical with any notions of "many worlds". Either explicitly excludes and precludes the other; can't have both and retain a consistent exi

Re: contention: theories are incompatible

2005-11-16 Thread Russell Standish
I don't see why. Conservation of information is a fundamental property of the Multiverse, and is directly equivalent to the law of unitary evolution in quantum mechanics. If you are talking about conservation of energy, are you aware that the total energy content of the universe is zero? All of ma

contention: theories are incompatible

2005-11-16 Thread James N Rose
An open hypothesis to list members: "Conservation" as a 'fundamental rule of condition' is incompatible and antithetical with any notions of "many worlds". Either explicitly excludes and precludes the other; can't have both and retain a consistent existentialism. J Rose