Re: [Evolution] Have I pushed Evolution beyond where it is designed to go?

2022-11-14 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Mon, 2022-11-14 at 13:08 -0500, Paul Smith wrote: > The nice thing about flatpak is it's quite simple to install an older > version (e.g., Evolution 3.44) if that's helpful to you. Hi, it was pointed out several times that Evolution downgrades are sometimes a problem regarding the user

Re: [Evolution] Have I pushed Evolution beyond where it is designed to go?

2022-11-08 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Tue, 2022-11-08 at 16:57 -0500, Paul Smith wrote: > I simply urge people to not take these "it's horrible" statements, > without any reference to actual problems that anyone has ever had in > real life and very little understanding of what exactly a flatpak or > snap is, how they are built, or

Re: [Evolution] Have I pushed Evolution beyond where it is designed to go?

2022-11-08 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Tue, 2022-11-08 at 13:49 -0600, Greg Oliver via evolution-list wrote: > Do you really think Canonical understands linux?  They have zero > developers in the kernel development process, plus Debian only has (2) > that I know of..  So, please do not use distros as live bait - it is >

Re: [Evolution] What do I do now? V2

2022-11-07 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Mon, 2022-11-07 at 09:07 -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > quoted context Hi, right now the same topic is endlessly discussed on questi...@freebsd.org and on evolution-list@gnome.org . It is discussed every now and then on every computer related mailing list. On questi...@freebsd.org and on

Re: [Evolution] What do I do now? V2

2022-11-05 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Sat, 2022-11-05 at 14:26 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > 1. > https://osuosl.org/services/hosting/ > https://osuosl.org/request-hosting/ The mc mailing list already migrated from gnome.org to OSU OSL. Yury V. Zaytsev yury at shurup.com seems to be the one responsible for doing it. Consid

Re: [Evolution] What do I do now? V2

2022-11-05 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Sat, 2022-11-05 at 13:10 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > If anyone has more insight, please let me know. No, I don't have more inside, let alone that I dislike freedesktop.org, but there are still other option: 1. https://osuosl.org/services/hosting/ https://osuosl.org/request-hosting/

Re: [Evolution] Have I pushed Evolution beyond where it is designed to go?

2022-11-05 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Sat, 2022-11-05 at 08:07 +, Mike wrote: > The VM is on the same hardware as the new desktop. Ok, we can tolerate top posting, HTML and untrimmed posts, even while you were asked to at least not top post and to trim quotes. At least I can't tolerate that you copied the content of an email

Re: [Evolution] Have I pushed Evolution beyond where it is designed to go?

2022-11-05 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Fri, 2022-11-04 at 13:23 +, Mike wrote: > I exported the data set from the VM and imported it into the physical > Debian platform the VM was now running on. The gz package was 3.2GiB. Hi, ok, I missed the information "gz package". Perhaps you need to move the data by just coping folders.

Re: [Evolution] Evolution plug-in for word count?

2022-11-05 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Fri, 2022-11-04 at 23:51 +, Mike wrote: > I will but I really think this is a matter of evolution messing up on > the import of a very large backup file from another computer. Hi, perhaps we are getting closer to the issue. How did you move the data from the VM to the install on bare

Re: [Evolution] Have I pushed Evolution beyond where it is designed to go?

2022-11-05 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Sat, 2022-11-05 at 02:34 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > I have 20 years and probably more email messages than you spoke of. I > don't think any email client on earth is built to hold that volume of > email. Hi, Evolution can handle >1 decade with lots of POP accounts, archiving lots of heavy

Re: [Evolution] Weird menu bar above menu bar

2022-11-04 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Fri, 2022-11-04 at 15:57 -0500, Tim McConnell wrote: > I hope it does (work forever), the new "look" is horrid if your > visually impaired (I'm blind in one eye) and changing that setting to > 'false' instead of 'true' makes it more usable to me. Hi, the future has begun, welcome to dystopia.

Re: [Evolution] Have I pushed Evolution beyond where it is designed to go?

2022-11-04 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Fri, 2022-11-04 at 13:51 +, Mike wrote: > Sorry, I missread. I downloaded the the DVD Debian non-free install > package from debian.org directly. No you understood correctly, all the information I recommended to provide, when sending a request to the list, is the version of Evolution. I

Re: [Evolution] Have I pushed Evolution beyond where it is designed to go?

2022-11-04 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
> Forwarded Message > From:Mike > To: Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list > Subject: Re: [Evolution] Have I pushed Evolution beyond where it is > designed to go? > Date:04/11/22 14:42:15 > > It is from the Debian maintainer as I in

Re: [Evolution] Have I pushed Evolution beyond where it is designed to go?

2022-11-04 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Fri, 2022-11-04 at 14:37 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fri, 2022-11-04 at 13:23 +, Mike wrote: > > -- The versions of Evolution on the VM and the new install are the same. > > -- Both are running on Debian 11.5. > > and this version is? The Debian 11.5 versio

Re: [Evolution] Have I pushed Evolution beyond where it is designed to go?

2022-11-04 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Fri, 2022-11-04 at 13:23 +, Mike wrote: > -- The versions of Evolution on the VM and the new install are the same. > -- Both are running on Debian 11.5. Hi, and this version is? The Debian 11.5 version from official repos or from another source? I don't know, but maybe this information

Re: [Evolution] What do I do now? V2

2022-11-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Thu, 2022-11-03 at 13:47 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2022-11-02 at 20:23 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > There may be such things in Mailman3, but currently we have Mailman2 > > and Gnome isn't going to change it. > > Turns out that freedesktop.org also uses Mailman2.

Re: [Evolution] What do I do now? V2

2022-11-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Thu, 2022-11-03 at 03:33 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > Paul Smith said on Wed, 02 Nov 2022 12:36:54 -0400 > > > > Alternatively of course we can announce the new list (as I said before > > it doesn't HAVE to be done before this list closes: it can be announced > > on Discourse) and let people

Re: [Evolution] What do I do now? V2

2022-11-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Wed, 2022-11-02 at 16:27 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > poc, there had been multiple people offering help even with the > infrastructure. In case the current list admins do not respond, say > till the 6th (this Sunday), would it make sense to engage those folks, > if they are

Re: [Evolution] What do I do now? V2

2022-11-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Wed, 2022-11-02 at 20:23 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > On 2/11/22 19:53, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Wed, 2022-11-02 at 08:19 +0800, Luigi Cantoni via evolution-list > > wrote: > > > Many people have contributed their ideas as to how to move forward so > > > I > > > hope there is enough now

Re: [Evolution] [solved] After an update Evolution's user interface is entirely broken

2022-11-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Tue, 2022-11-01 at 12:40 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > Text on buttons, that's tricky with small resolutions. You are lucky > you've plenty of space, but there are people, or use cases, where is > available only limited space, thus the text is too much for the header > bar

Re: [Evolution] After an update Evolution's user interface is entirely broken

2022-11-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Tue, 2022-11-01 at 11:52 +0100, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: > It's an off-topic question, but [...] I'm very interested... I replied off-list. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...

[Evolution] [solved] After an update Evolution's user interface is entirely broken

2022-11-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Tue, 2022-11-01 at 08:10 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: >     gsettings set org.gnome.evolution.shell use-header-bar false Hi, thank you, this solved the issue, see attachments. Even the Smiley is more friendly again ;). > Also, I would not say the interface is entirely broken.

[Evolution] After an update Evolution's user interface is entirely broken

2022-11-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
Hi, today Evolution on Arch Linux was upgraded from 3.44.4 to 3.46.1, due to a dependency hell a downgrade became more or less impossible to maintain. I have given up downgrading Evolution. I've attached screenshots showing the new confusingly arranged ambiguous symbols. Now evolution only works

[Evolution] Has somebody still a GNOME Discourse account?

2022-10-30 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
~~~ Hi, I wonder if whitespaces are kept by the plain text part of the Discourse's multipart messages, if the body of an email send to Discourse does start and end with a line containing

Re: [Evolution] unread messages

2022-10-30 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
Hi, 1. Select the folder 2. On top, below the tool bar is a search bar and on the left side of the search bar is a box. Click the box and select "All Messages". Instead of clicking and selecting, it's also possible to use the scroll wheel of the mouse , when the mouse cursor hovers over the

Re: [Evolution] Another new mailing list

2022-10-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
Hi, thank you. While it shouldn't harm to have two plan B, it could harm ;). IMO we should wait for the "official unofficial" new mailing list. If the time until the end of life of this list on gnome.org shouldn't be enough time, to get the new "official unofficial" mailing list, we probably

Re: [Evolution] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

2022-10-26 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Wed, 2022-10-26 at 12:29 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > "evolution-users" Hi, if possible the old moderators should become the new admins/moderators, hence one of them should get in contact with freedesktop.org or foo.bar. If additional help is needed, maybe somebody from this

Re: [Evolution] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

2022-10-26 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Wed, 2022-10-26 at 07:34 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Tue, 2022-10-25 at 22:23 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Can you ask them? Probably better not to have several people asking > > the same questions. > > Hi, > I can ask David, the infradead.org person, though

Re: [Evolution] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

2022-10-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Tue, 2022-10-25 at 18:26 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > My personal opinion is to use a free mailing list service. Expecting > there will be people not moving to the new location, thus the location > will not turn from free to a paid service is not ideal. It's better to > stay on

Re: [Evolution] [evolution-users] What do I do now?

2022-10-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Tue, 2022-10-25 at 16:02 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > losses will occur. > > Some of the people on some of the gnome lists, are being quite vocal > about all kinds of possibilities, but, seem to be doing nothing about > any of the possibilities. Hi, an important part of the app communities

Re: [Evolution] [evolution-users] What do I do now?

2022-10-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Tue, 2022-10-25 at 09:55 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Tue, 2022-10-25 at 09:42 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > I'm not aware of software to my taste, that can replace Evolution for > > me and I used almost all known MUA software. > > I'm not sure I un

Re: [Evolution] [evolution-users] What do I do now?

2022-10-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Tue, 2022-10-25 at 14:43 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > On 25/10/22 10:18, Ralf via groups.io wrote: > > Temporarily we can continue to think about how to proceed at > > > > https://groups.io/g/evolution-users > > https://groups.io/g/gimp-users > > > > Just to clarify - when I set up the

Re: [Evolution] What do I do now?

2022-10-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Tue, 2022-10-25 at 08:31 +0800, Luigi via evolution-list wrote: > Since we only have a few days left may I suggest the group focus on > putting forwards what options we have and those actually doing the > work can decide the best choice and we go for it (even if its not > perfect). Hi,

Re: [Evolution] [rebellion attempt] Fight back!

2022-10-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 19:21 -0400, Liam R E Quin wrote: > The mailing list is moving to Discourse, yes. You can interact with > Discourse using email. Hi, a lot of the Evolution mailing list members, including myself, tested the mailing list ability of Discourse. I was not allowed to start a new

[Evolution] Fwd: Re: Let's unite the power of all mailing list subscribers who are affected by GNOME's ruling

2022-10-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
Forwarded Message From: Grzegorz Szymaszek To: m...@gnome.org Cc: Ralf Mardorf , gimp-user-l...@gnome.org, evolution-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Let's unite the power of all mailing list subscribers who are affected by GNOME's ruling Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2022 19:01:11 +0200 Hi

Re: [Evolution] New mailing list

2022-10-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Mon, 2022-10-24 at 02:41 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > subscribing by replying to the invitation that I sent, appears to > have worked Yes! ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...

Re: [Evolution] New mailing list

2022-10-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 13:16 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: > I have no problems with people signing up to whatever they want, of > course, but [snip] Hi, I can't comment on groups.io and I dislike the idea of an unofficial mailing list. When Bret asked me off-list, if he should set up this list for

Re: [Evolution] New mailing list

2022-10-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Mon, 2022-10-24 at 00:51 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > https://groups.io/g/evolution-users > Thank you Bret, I tied subscribing several times with silver.bullet at zoho.com by the groups.io website and one time by email. Until now I didn't receive a confirmation email. I checked the spam folder

Re: [Evolution] Let's unite the power of all mailing list subscribers who are affected by GNOME's ruling

2022-10-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 17:57 +0200, Yury V. Zaytsev wrote: > * groups.io - way too expensive for us > * riseup.net - political organization > * Google Groups - free, no positive / negative experience > * Freedesktop - maybe they could accept a couple of low-traffic lists? > > If other lists find a

Re: [Evolution] Discourse and the situation for Mailman lists hosted by Gnome.org

2022-10-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
Hi, it's worth to forward this [1] to other GNOME mailing lists. Regards, Ralf [1] Forwarded Message To: evolution-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Evolution] Discourse and the situation for Mailman lists hosted by Gnome.org Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2022 11:19:21 -0400 On Sun,

Re: [Evolution] Discourse and the situation for Mailman lists hosted by Gnome.org

2022-10-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 11:01 -0400, dfc wrote: > What other existing mailing list software can be used if Mailman is > unavailable? Is Lyris suitable? What features (technically speaking) > must the platform possess? Hi, I can't answer those questions. However, Linux server can run Mailman 3

Re: [Evolution] Discourse and the situation for Mailman lists hosted by Gnome.org

2022-10-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 09:20 -0400, William Oliver wrote: > I strongly suspect that the reason this change is being made is not for > some nefarious "control" reason or some bad goal.  I suspect that its > about making it easier for whoever is volunteering to keep this stuff > going. Hi, if so,

Re: [Evolution] Discourse and the situation for Mailman lists hosted by Gnome.org

2022-10-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 13:13 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 13:45 +0200, Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list > wrote: > > On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 12:31 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > The PTB would all say that this is not abrupt. > > ^^^ > >

[Evolution] Let's unite the power of all mailing list subscribers who are affected by GNOME's ruling

2022-10-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
Hi, I'm a long time Evolution mailing list subscriber, who just recently subscribed to the gimp and mc mailing list, since we all suffer from the decision that the GNOME mailing lists get shut down this month. Reading the MC archive I noticed the question regarding groups.io. If it's free as in

Re: [Evolution] Discourse and the situation for Mailman lists hosted by Gnome.org

2022-10-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 12:31 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > The PTB would all say that this is not abrupt. ^^^ Pass the bong :D What is PTB for? ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe,

Re: [Evolution] Discourse and the situation for Mailman lists hosted by Gnome.org

2022-10-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 06:50 -0400, dfc via evolution-list wrote: > What other Gnome lists (analogous to evolution-list) are currently > scrambling with the abrupt decision to switch to discourse? Hi, all GNOME mailing lists are affected, https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo . I don't know if

Re: [Evolution] The system of levels, badges and presents of Discourse

2022-10-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 11:36 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 10:56 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > Andre, I'm really upset about your prevarication > > Thanks for getting personal again (after "My claims make a lot of sense > and you are aware of it&quo

Re: [Evolution] The system of levels, badges and presents of Discourse

2022-10-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 10:30 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > It isn't a code of conduct that those who joined the gift of Level 1, > soon reach the maximum number of replies and need to wait a day before > they can continue. The correct term is "despotism". PS: Andre, I'm real

Re: [Evolution] The system of levels, badges and presents of Discourse

2022-10-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 09:48 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > I wrote: > > There even isn't the need to moderate or ban users with unwanted > > opinions, since the users are educated by levels, badges and > > presents. > > That's neither logical nor based on a correct assumption. It's not > about

[Evolution] The system of levels, badges and presents of Discourse

2022-10-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
By closing individual mailman mailing lists and replacing it with a single forum, everything is under control of a single authority. There even isn't the need to moderate or ban users with unwanted opinions, since the users are educated by levels, badges and presents. IOW all users are under

Re: [Evolution] Thoughts on Discourse and use as a mailing list

2022-10-22 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 01:59 +, Dan Kortschak wrote: > This has been my experience with GNOME decision makers in other areas > as well. Failure to engage, diminution of concerns and then moving on > with the tired refrain of it's open source so your could fix it > yourself, and then cycling

Re: [Evolution] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

2022-10-22 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Sat, 2022-10-22 at 19:14 +0200, Torsten Krah wrote: > The problem is we do only have a few days left to discuss that Hi, in 2021 a member of the Ubuntu community started to run an off-topic mailing list. It has got very low traffic, the list archive only contains January 2021, February 2021,

Re: [Evolution] Thoughts on Discourse and use as a mailing list

2022-10-22 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Sat, 2022-10-22 at 17:36 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > First, a thought about the demise of the Mailman mailing list. A while back FreeBSD migrated from Mailman to another Software and the still provide the old Mailman archive + the Archive of the new mailing list software, for example

Re: [Evolution] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

2022-10-22 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
1GB, 30GB, 1TB. https://riseup.net/en/lists/list-admin/configuration/creating-lists I created a ticket at https://support.riseup.net/en/topics/new . Email: ralf-mardorf at riseup.net Name: Ralf Mardorf Group/Team: Lists Subject:Freedom of Internet users Message: Hi, I suspe

Re: [Evolution] What do I do now?

2022-10-22 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Sat, 2022-10-22 at 13:55 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > So the way to get it working as a proper mailing list is by turning off > Mailing List Mode. So intuitive. Hi, yesno, even after doing so, it is not working as a proper mailing list. The emails are still multipart messages with

Re: [Evolution] Oh for heavens sake ....

2022-10-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Fri, 2022-10-21 at 13:37 -0500, Greg Oliver via evolution-list wrote: > On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 1:31 PM Andrea Veri wrote: > > There will always be someone complaining but it's fundamental to > > give things a try and helping out others to succeed as well making > > sure their workflow is

Re: [Evolution] Discourse -- Insufficient Trust Level

2022-10-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Fri, 2022-10-21 at 11:46 -0500, Greg Oliver via evolution-list wrote: > My own family cannot even eat a meal without checking their damn > phones under the table Hi, mobile phones/smartphones are something I like, but since they are completely misused, I don't own one. Regards, Ralf

Re: [Evolution] What now?

2022-10-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Fri, 2022-10-21 at 12:33 -0400, Matt Connell wrote: > I love the idea of re-implementing the mailing list elsewhere.  I am > willing to fund it, but I have more money than time/patience these days > and would prefer not to have to administer it. Hi Matt, I don't have enough money, I don't

Re: [Evolution] Discourse -- Insufficient Trust Level

2022-10-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Fri, 2022-10-21 at 12:35 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > The fountain of youth. If that works, I'll sign up again. Getting rid of my reading glasses would be a good start. In a very old photo I'm doing something with a skateboard, it would be nice to do it again.

Re: [Evolution] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

2022-10-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Fri, 2022-10-21 at 18:41 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > https://discourse.gnome.org/t/a-test-topic-so-that-the-refugees-from-the-evolution-mailing-list-can-try-and-sort-things-out/1170 The complete link does read https://discourse.gnome.org/t/a-test-topic-so-that-the-refugees-f

Re: [Evolution] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

2022-10-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Fri, 2022-10-21 at 17:19 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > On Fri, 2022-10-21 at 12:11 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > Sorin Srbu via evolution-list said on Fri, 21 Oct 2022 09:50:23 + > > > > > > > Ah, seems like Discourse closes topics after fourteen days with no > > > traffic. Might this be a

[Evolution] What now?

2022-10-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
Hi, after reading https://discourse.gnome.org/t/interacting-with-discourse-via-email/46 I deleted my Discourse account [1]. I tried my best but stopped messing with Discourse. Instead of working on a Wallpaper for the next release of a desktop environment, I wasted most time of the day with the

Re: [Evolution] Oh for heavens sake ....

2022-10-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Fri, 2022-10-21 at 17:29 +0200, Torsten Krah wrote: > Am Freitag, dem 21.10.2022 um 14:51 + schrieb Sorin Srbu: > > Oh, great. LOL! > > Now I have to wipe off that coffee I blurted out on the monitors > > laughing while reading these two comments. :*) > > Same for me here, that made my day

Re: [Evolution] Oh for heavens sake ....

2022-10-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Fri, 2022-10-21 at 15:33 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > On Fri, 2022-10-21 at 16:26 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Fri, 2022-10-21 at 14:10 +, Sorin Srbu wrote: > > > I'm pretty sure you'll get a badge by tomorrow for your effort today! > > > ;-) > > &g

Re: [Evolution] Oh for heavens sake ....

2022-10-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Fri, 2022-10-21 at 14:10 +, Sorin Srbu via evolution-list wrote: > I'm pretty sure you'll get a badge by tomorrow for your effort today! > ;-) He's close to the next level :D. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change

Re: [Evolution] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

2022-10-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Fri, 2022-10-21 at 14:57 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Evolution is one of the few Gnome apps I use (my desktop is KDE) and I > seriously do *not* want to have to deal with this on a message-by- > message basis. Hi, Evolution isn't the only GNOME app I've got installed, but to my

[Evolution] Spam from Discourse - Was: Discourse -- Insufficient Trust Level

2022-10-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
Hi, I got two more "[Site Feedback] Please delete my account" emails and one "[Applications] Left Shortcuts Bar Too Wide, Unable to Edit" email. "[Applications] Left Shortcuts Bar Too Wide, Unable to Edit" doesn't contain "Evolution" or "evolution" and the tags are "Applications" and "nautilus",

Re: [Evolution] Discourse -- Insufficient Trust Level

2022-10-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
Hi all, hi Pete, I got your Discourse reply by email. It's the first email coming through this "list". The HTML email was send to my GitHub email address, not to my "successfully" changed Discourse email address. The subject starts with "[Side feedback]". This makes sense, since the tag is

Re: [Evolution] Discourse -- Insufficient Trust Level

2022-10-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Fri, 2022-10-21 at 13:42 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > It doesn't take much to get to Level 1 - I've got there already - but > all new users start at Level 0, which is heavily restricted "for safety > – both theirs and yours". Hi, a forum, is a forum, is a forum, is a forum. See the PPS of [1]:

Re: [Evolution] My first attempt to migrate to Discourse

2022-10-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Fri, 2022-10-21 at 13:54 +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: > I will definitely not go through this. Hi, it anyway doesn't work. I can't post to the discourse mailing list. https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2022-October/msg00209.html I spend more than 1 hour to subscribe to a mailing

[Evolution] Discourse -- Insufficient Trust Level

2022-10-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
Hi, discourse is crap². I'm forwarding an original HTML email [1]. Regards, Ralf [1] Forwarded Message From: GNOME Discourse Reply-To: GNOME Discourse To: silver.bullet at zoho... Subject: [GNOME Discourse] Email issue -- Insufficient Trust Level Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022

[Evolution] The irks and quirks of the migration from evolution-list to discourse

2022-10-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
Hi, I'm new to discourse. I'm sorry, but I need to send a test email. Regards, Ralf PS: Cc'ed to the evolution-list.   ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...

[Evolution] [partly solved] My first attempt to migrate to Discourse

2022-10-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Fri, 2022-10-21 at 12:38 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Go to your Preferences, then click on Emails (on the left). Near the > bottom of the page is a tick-box which enables mailing list behaviour. Thank you! Oops! "Include previous replies at the bottom of emails" Ahh! "Mailing list

[Evolution] My second attempt to migrate to Discourse failed, too - Aka Re: My first attempt to migrate to Discourse

2022-10-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
20. "Welcome back! Incorrect username, email or password"... 21. ...but "with GitHub" I can log in again. 22. Puzzle piece/space invaders icon > Bust icon > Preferences 23. Added alternate email silver.bullet at zoho... 24. Evolution retrieved emails 25. Ralf clicked confirmation link 26.

[Evolution] My first attempt to migrate to Discourse

2022-10-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
Hi, 1. I opened https://discourse.gnome.org/ with Waterfox. 2. I clicked "Log In" 3. I clicked "with GitHub" 4. Evolution retrieved emails 5. I copied the verification code to the GidHub device verification 6. "GNOME Discourse by GNOME Infrastructure Automation Bot wants to access your

Re: [Evolution] Automatic tagging as "important"

2022-10-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Fri, 2022-10-21 at 12:29 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > my mailing list account is a POP account. Here the flag isn't set. For > testing purpose I prioritized this message to the list. IIRC even > messages with the appropriate header aren't flagged with a high > priority. Hi, the m

Re: [Evolution] Automatic tagging as "important"

2022-10-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Fri, 2022-10-21 at 11:44 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Fri, 2022-10-21 at 09:07 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > Out of interest, does it happen for other people on Evolution? > > Hi, > no, not for me. Andrea's mail is shown here as a regular mail, no Label > (evolution's

Re: [Evolution] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

2022-10-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Thu, 2022-10-20 at 23:03 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > Have you ever read "Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy"? So I'm not the only one :). ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...

Re: [Evolution] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

2022-10-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Thu, 2022-10-20 at 22:43 +0200, Andrea Veri wrote: > what you're saying is a honestly a bit unfair, lists decommission has > been communicated multiple times over the past few months Hi, a lot of Evolution users don't use GNOME or any other DE at all. “There’s no point in acting surprised

Re: [Evolution] What do I do now?

2022-10-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
Hi, an email client community needs a mailing list, not a WhatsApp group or a forum or an IRC channel. Evolution is an email client, but emails aren't good enough for communication related to the email client? If so, then the GNOME project should stop providing an email client at all. The end

Re: [Evolution] 3.46.0 interface question

2022-10-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Sun, 2022-10-16 at 19:38 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > That's off-topic (as Evolution doesn't use GTK version 4). Hi, my point is, that nowadays https://github.com/ZaWertun/gtk3-nocsd does help, but soon or later Evolution likely migrates to gtk4 and then there's no workaround to get rid of

Re: [Evolution] 3.46.0 interface question

2022-10-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Sun, 2022-10-16 at 19:34 +0300, Tim Ehrenhaft wrote: > How do i get the previous interface back? Hi, I don't use a desktop environment, but just a plain window manager named openbox. To get rid of gtk3 client side decoration on an up to date Arch Linux rolling release, I'm using

Re: [Evolution] weird bug: mismatch between the message list and preview pane

2022-10-07 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Fri, 2022-10-07 at 18:31 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > I think that's tremendously unfair. I've used IMAP based accounts for > many, many years and never had any issues with them. They are > infinitely more workable when you use more than one client - I > currently have something like 10

Re: [Evolution] weird bug: mismatch between the message list and preview pane

2022-10-07 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
Hi, IIUC you are asking for an option to rebuild the folder tree, hence I suspect you are using IMAP accounts. It's one of the reasons for me to stay with POP accounts, since those are completely free from such maintenance work on almost all MUAs, while there isn't a day without similar IMAP

Re: [Evolution] Logwatch reports segmentation faults in Evolution

2022-10-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Sat, 2022-10-01 at 10:36 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > We still have no idea what "Logwatch" is. Hi, maybe the OP does use https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Logwatch , also see https://sourceforge.net/projects/logwatch/ or https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/logwatch . Regards, Ralf

Re: [Evolution] Is there a way to set the interface back to what it was?

2022-09-30 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Fri, 2022-09-30 at 19:56 +0200, Andre Klapper via evolution-list wrote: > On Fri, 2022-09-30 at 18:52 +0200, aguador via evolution-list wrote: > > To clarify: CSD does not make text disappear (AFAIK). However, it is as > > much a "feature" as a reply button that deletes the original > >

Re: [Evolution] Crashes after updating to 3.46.0

2022-09-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
PS: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution#Evolution_in_Flatpak is misleading, it mentions "Flathub contains the latest stable version." ^^^ is this link: https://flathub.org/apps/details/org.gnome.Evolution IIUC it's providing 3.46.0, which obviously is not the stable release.

Re: [Evolution] Crashes after updating to 3.46.0

2022-09-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Wed, 2022-09-28 at 11:59 -0500, Michael via evolution-list wrote: > After updating to 3.46.0 on both my Ubuntu 22.04.1 (Wayland) laptop > and my Pop OS 22.04.1 (Wayland) laptop, Evolution randomly closes and > this is the error in terminal: > > (evolution.bin:26): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **:

Re: [Evolution] Is there a way to set the interface back to what it was?

2022-09-14 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Wed, 2022-09-14 at 01:41 +0200, Ángel wrote: > I am looking at gedit as a representative application. Professional grade iPadOS apps for music and graphic are using old faithful menus. To get things done menus are even not dropped on portable devices. Menus are dropped for unprofessional

Re: [Evolution] Is there a way to set the interface back to what it was?

2022-09-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Tue, 2022-09-13 at 08:39 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > It's called Client Side Decorations Hi, a long time ago I installed gtk3-nocsd, not for Evolution, but maybe it does affect Evolution, too. I'm not on Evolution 3.45.3 yet. [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ pacman -Qi

Re: [Evolution] Restoring Evolution

2022-08-31 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Tue, 2022-08-30 at 21:33 -0700, Mr. J wrote: > So there's something about the process or > the external hard drive (or both?) that prevents the creation of a > valid .tar.gz backup file on my hard drive. It was recently > formatted, so I'm at a loss to explain. Hi, while even a brand new

Re: [Evolution] Restoring Evolution

2022-08-30 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Tue, 2022-08-30 at 11:51 -0500, c. marlow wrote: > > > I'd go back to Claws if the backup / restore feature was removed from > Evo. Hi, you are in favour of Evolution, just because it offers this option? Claws probably doesn't provide this feature for good reasons. IMO this is the best

Re: [Evolution] Restoring Evolution

2022-08-30 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Tue, 2022-08-30 at 10:29 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > Table-After-Creation is a good rule. Hi, when using tar by command line it's necessary to do it, not only to check that the archive is not corrupt, but also to rule out user errors, such as path typos or not having thought of

Re: [Evolution] Restoring Evolution

2022-08-30 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Tue, 2022-08-30 at 11:49 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > I would possibly go as far as to say that that particular functionality > has run its course and could be consigned to the big bit-bucket in the > sky. Hi, _yes_, announce that you will remove it and unless no user should veto, remove it. >

Re: [Evolution] Restoring Evolution

2022-08-30 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Mon, 2022-08-29 at 18:33 -0700, Mr.J wrote: > Could the size of the file caused the problem? Hi, yesno. It depends on the file system and the size of the archive, so indeed, yes, the file can become too large to fit. When generating the archive and the size or any other issue should be the

Re: [Evolution] Keeping email on the server

2022-08-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Fri, 2022-08-19 at 22:51 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > You could try to CC:/BCC: yourself on the emails, then at least you > have more chance of getting a saved email with headers. (There's an > option to do that in Evolution under "Composing Messages" in the > account editor.)  But if they are

Re: [Evolution] Evolution and gmail

2022-08-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Tue, 2022-08-16 at 11:12 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > We've been over this before. There's nothing stopping you from syncing > your IMAP account to your local machine. There is *NO* advantage to > using POP, and a number of disadvantages. The only reason to ever use > it is if your mail

Re: [Evolution] Evolution and gmail

2022-08-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Tue, 2022-08-16 at 09:47 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > On 16. Aug 2022, at 01:59, Adam Tauno Williams > > wrote: > > > > I strongly encourage NOT using POP. It is an old protocol AND IT ADDS > > NO VALUE, none what-so-ever. It doesn't, do not believe a

Re: [Evolution] Evolution and gmail

2022-08-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Mon, 2022-08-15 at 19:59 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > On Mon, 2022-08-15 at 17:24 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Mon, 2022-08-15 at 06:08 -0300, Francisco M Neto wrote: > > > Nevertheless, I want to add email through POP; I *really* don't > > > want > > > to keep anything in

Re: [Evolution] Evolution and gmail

2022-08-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
> On 16. Aug 2022, at 01:59, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > > I strongly encourage NOT using POP. It is an old protocol AND IT ADDS > NO VALUE, none what-so-ever. It doesn't, do not believe anyone who > tells you otherwise. Hi, I’m in favour of POP for several reasons. One of the reasons is

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