Re: [Evolution] Migrating from Thunderbird via import without duplicates

2020-11-04 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2020-11-04 at 21:01 +0900, christopher via evolution-list wrote: > POC, > > Maybe I have just missed this the whole time using gmail, but in the > event in Evolution you did a Select All + Del. How would you recover? I > know Gmail keeps things in the trash for 30 days, so I guess this

Re: [Evolution] Migrating from Thunderbird via import without duplicates

2020-11-04 Thread christopher via evolution-list
POC, Maybe I have just missed this the whole time using gmail, but in the event in Evolution you did a Select All + Del. How would you recover? I know Gmail keeps things in the trash for 30 days, so I guess this what-if scenario would be easily noticed in this time period, but what if you

Re: [Evolution] Migrating from Thunderbird via import without duplicates

2020-10-29 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2020-10-29 at 11:41 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > BTW, we too went through the process of outsourcing email, but Google > couldn't/wouldn't commit to housing the data in a certain jurisdiction > so our legal team said no. If you ever want to meet risk adverse > people, just talk to the legal

Re: [Evolution] Migrating from Thunderbird via import without duplicates

2020-10-29 Thread Pete Biggs
> Obviously it's not theoretically impossible for Google to suddenly lose > all of its data centres, but I don't consider that to be something I > need to spend my time thinking about. Over ten years ago I persuaded my > university to switch to Google for handling mail, because the cost and >

Re: [Evolution] Migrating from Thunderbird via import without duplicates

2020-10-29 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2020-10-28 at 18:25 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > > Maybe a better question to the entire community would be how do you > > keep regularly scheduled backups of your mail? For self-hosted > > servers its a no-brainer, but for gmail accounts or other cloud > > hosted accounts, I'm really at a

Re: [Evolution] Migrating from Thunderbird via import without duplicates

2020-10-29 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Thu, 2020-10-29 at 01:09 +0900, Bo Buckley via evolution-list wrote: > Ideally I'd like the following setup: > > 1.) Something like Offline IMAP or Evolution's "Synchronize remote > mail locally in all folders" to sync to a local maildir > 2.) Have an incremental backup of this maildir (e.g

Re: [Evolution] Migrating from Thunderbird via import without duplicates

2020-10-29 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Tue, 2020-10-27 at 21:45 +0100, Ángel wrote: > I would expect the folders.db to have important(?) differences (for > instance the message UIDs would all be different), but seems like it > should be slightly more compatible. Any opinion on that? Hi, ah, right, the UIDs will be also

Re: [Evolution] Migrating from Thunderbird via import without duplicates

2020-10-28 Thread Pete Biggs
On Thu, 2020-10-29 at 01:09 +0900, Bo Buckley wrote: > Hi Pete (sorry for the missed reply-all last time), Yeah, please try and do reply-to-list not reply-all! > > Thank you for your reply. [And thank you to everyone else for your insight as > well!] > > >A serious question: if you are using

Re: [Evolution] Migrating from Thunderbird via import without duplicates

2020-10-28 Thread Bo Buckley via evolution-list
Hi Pete (sorry for the missed reply-all last time), Thank you for your reply. [And thank you to everyone else for your insight as well!] >A serious question: if you are using IMAP, why do you need to "sync" >all your mail? Because there is no backup on the server that I can restore from and if

Re: [Evolution] Migrating from Thunderbird via import without duplicates

2020-10-27 Thread Ángel
On 2020-10-27 at 17:29 +0100, Milan Crha wrote: > On Wed, 2020-10-28 at 00:31 +0900, christopher wrote: > > Are there details on this process (warnings heeded) anywhere? > > No, there are not, because nobody did it yet and should not do that. > > I can think of only a single workaround: > (...)

Re: [Evolution] Migrating from Thunderbird via import without duplicates

2020-10-27 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Tue, 2020-10-27 at 17:50 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I don't download All > Mail anyway (in fact I don't sync locally at all). You can even > unsubscribe it if you like. Hi, for what it's worth, I have the All Mails disabled on the Gmail side for IMAP synchronization (otherwise

Re: [Evolution] Migrating from Thunderbird via import without duplicates

2020-10-27 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2020-10-27 at 10:36 -0600, Zan Lynx wrote: > On 10/27/2020 10:29 AM, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > > That feels like a lot of mails, or just few movies as attachments (just > > kidding). Do you know how many mails this is? My largest IMAP account > > has 498.162 messages at the

Re: [Evolution] Migrating from Thunderbird via import without duplicates

2020-10-27 Thread Zan Lynx
On 10/27/2020 10:29 AM, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: That feels like a lot of mails, or just few movies as attachments (just kidding). Do you know how many mails this is? My largest IMAP account has 498.162 messages at the moment, which is surely less than that yours. I do not download

Re: [Evolution] Migrating from Thunderbird via import without duplicates

2020-10-27 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Wed, 2020-10-28 at 00:31 +0900, christopher wrote: > Then what exactly is the use case for importing from Thunderbird as > per [the manual] Hi, I do not think Thunderbird import imports also local caches, it imports local accounts only (from the Mail part). > As I have between 50 -

Re: [Evolution] Migrating from Thunderbird via import without duplicates

2020-10-27 Thread Pete Biggs
> Then what exactly is the use case for importing from Thunderbird as per > [the > manual](https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/import-apps-mozilla.html.en)? > > That is surely for importing to local folders, not IMAP folders > > As I have between 50 - 100 GB of mail to sync,

Re: [Evolution] Migrating from Thunderbird via import without duplicates

2020-10-27 Thread christopher via evolution-list
Then what exactly is the use case for importing from Thunderbird as per [the manual](https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/import-apps-mozilla.html.en)? As I have between 50 - 100 GB of mail to sync, with it all backed up locally, I'm happy to try to break things in an effort to

Re: [Evolution] Migrating from Thunderbird via import without duplicates

2020-10-26 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Tue, 2020-10-27 at 00:37 +0900, christopher via evolution-list wrote: > Is there any way of doing the above? Hi, there basically isn't. Or it is, but it requires a lot of work, with which it would be too easy to break internal things. I suppose your server account is IMAP or any such,

[Evolution] Migrating from Thunderbird via import without duplicates

2020-10-26 Thread christopher via evolution-list
I understand how to import my mbox files from Thunderbird and I understand how to setup my accounts on Evolution, but I'm not sure how to do both without ending up with duplicates and essentially mitigating the entire advantage of having local copies to import from.