Re: [Evolution] Font size of printed text is HUGE!

2018-07-09 Thread Paul W Parker via evolution-list
On Mon, 2018-07-09 at 12:46 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Mon, 2018-07-09 at 12:14 +0200, Francesco Porro via evolution-list
> wrote:
> > So? Any ideas?
> 
>   Hi,
> I just tried it and my font is not that large as yours. The size is
> derived from the font size of the view, the one in Edit->Preferences-
> >
> Mail Preferences->General tab->Message Display section->[x] Use the
> same fonts as other applications. I'm not aware of any separate
> setting
> for print and for the message preview, unfortunately.
>   Bye,
>   Milan
> 
> 

Self uses openSUSE Leap 15 (64-bit) GNOME 3.26.2

Are you unable to change Layout - Scale ? 

Self does: 

Select message to print

For self shows: "General"  then "Print to File" 
(Also: All pages, Copies 1) 

Change tab to :  "Page Setup" 

Layout
  Two-sided: (faded: "Not available") 
  Pages per side: "Not Available"  (changeable)
  Page ordering:  (faded: "Not available") 
  Only print: "All sheets"   (changeable)
  Scale: 100   (- + % changeable)

Paper
   Paper type: (faded: "Not available")  
   Paper source: (faded: "Not available")  
   Output tray: (faded: "Not available")  
   Paper size:  "A4"   (changeable) 
   Orientation: "Portrait"   (changeable) 

Halves size text prints when self changes Layout -  Scale: 50 % 




Paul W Parker

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Re: [Evolution] time zone issues with calendar in Evolution

2018-07-09 Thread MayDay Computers via evolution-list
​​
On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 2:40 PM, Ratliff, John  wrote:

> On Sat, 2018-07-07 at 12:22 +0200, Ángel wrote:
> > On 2018-07-06 at 17:14 +, Ratliff, John wrote:
> > > I'm using Evolution with EWS to access my Exchange mailbox.
> > >
> > > When I create a calendar event, I select the time, but when I go to
> > > save it, it puts the time an hour later.
> > >
> > > I am in the US Eastern timezone (UTC-4, UTC-5 when not in daylight
> > > savings).
> > >
> > > I've seen this behavior on Arch Linux, Fedora, and Ubuntu, and my
> > > time
> > > zone is set correctly on all of those platforms.
> > >
> > > Any ideas why this is happening and what I can do to fix it?
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> >
> > Hello John
> >
> > There is a mishap between evolution and Exchange when in DST.
> > Evolution
> > seems to provide the datetime with DST applied but Exchange interpret
> > it
> > as provided without it:
> > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2018-May/msg00017.html
> >
> > Could you share which is the most recent version where you verified
> > that
> > it was failing?
>
> My laptop is running Evolution 3.28.2 from debian testing repo. It
> still exhibits the issue.
>
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> Indiana University | https://pti.iu.edu
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(Sorry for the top post on the previous email!)
​3.28.3 on Fedora 28 ans I also have this issue a lot.  I found that if I
change my Time zone from America/Indiana/Indianapolis to America/New_York,
it works fine.​

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Re: [Evolution] time zone issues with calendar in Evolution

2018-07-09 Thread MayDay Computers via evolution-list
3.28.3 on Fedora 28 ans I also have this issue a lot.  I found that if I
change my Time zone from America/Indiana/Indianapolis to America/New_York,
it works fine.


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On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 2:40 PM, Ratliff, John  wrote:

> On Sat, 2018-07-07 at 12:22 +0200, Ángel wrote:
> > On 2018-07-06 at 17:14 +, Ratliff, John wrote:
> > > I'm using Evolution with EWS to access my Exchange mailbox.
> > >
> > > When I create a calendar event, I select the time, but when I go to
> > > save it, it puts the time an hour later.
> > >
> > > I am in the US Eastern timezone (UTC-4, UTC-5 when not in daylight
> > > savings).
> > >
> > > I've seen this behavior on Arch Linux, Fedora, and Ubuntu, and my
> > > time
> > > zone is set correctly on all of those platforms.
> > >
> > > Any ideas why this is happening and what I can do to fix it?
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> >
> > Hello John
> >
> > There is a mishap between evolution and Exchange when in DST.
> > Evolution
> > seems to provide the datetime with DST applied but Exchange interpret
> > it
> > as provided without it:
> > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2018-May/msg00017.html
> >
> > Could you share which is the most recent version where you verified
> > that
> > it was failing?
>
> My laptop is running Evolution 3.28.2 from debian testing repo. It
> still exhibits the issue.
>
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> Indiana University | https://pti.iu.edu
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Re: [Evolution] time zone issues with calendar in Evolution

2018-07-09 Thread Ratliff, John
On Sat, 2018-07-07 at 12:22 +0200, Ángel wrote:
> On 2018-07-06 at 17:14 +, Ratliff, John wrote:
> > I'm using Evolution with EWS to access my Exchange mailbox.
> > 
> > When I create a calendar event, I select the time, but when I go to
> > save it, it puts the time an hour later.
> > 
> > I am in the US Eastern timezone (UTC-4, UTC-5 when not in daylight
> > savings).
> > 
> > I've seen this behavior on Arch Linux, Fedora, and Ubuntu, and my
> > time
> > zone is set correctly on all of those platforms.
> > 
> > Any ideas why this is happening and what I can do to fix it?
> > 
> > Thanks.
> 
> Hello John
> 
> There is a mishap between evolution and Exchange when in DST.
> Evolution
> seems to provide the datetime with DST applied but Exchange interpret
> it
> as provided without it:
> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2018-May/msg00017.html
> 
> Could you share which is the most recent version where you verified
> that
> it was failing?

My laptop is running Evolution 3.28.2 from debian testing repo. It
still exhibits the issue.

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Re: [Evolution] Recovering after suspend and resume

2018-07-09 Thread Douglas Summers
On Mon, 2018-07-09 at 11:16 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Mon, 2018-07-09 at 09:35 +0800, Franco Broi wrote:
> > Is there any way to inject instructions to Evo from the command
> > line?
> 
>   Hi,
> even there are --online and --offline arguments of the `evolution`
> executable, those are not passed to the running instance, they are
> used
> to set the state on start only. I'm not aware of anything closer for
> it.
> 
> Please note that evolution received many changes in this regard since
> yours 3.18.5.2, the current stable 3.28.x series behaves better, as
> far
> as I know.
>   Bye,
>   Milan
> 
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I can confirm this. I used to have constant "connection refused/timed-
out" errors with 3.18. Now that I've upgraded to Mint 19/Evolution 3.28
these issue have all but disappeared.
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Re: [Evolution] Font size of printed text is HUGE!

2018-07-09 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Mon, 2018-07-09 at 12:14 +0200, Francesco Porro via evolution-list
wrote:
> So? Any ideas?

Hi,
I just tried it and my font is not that large as yours. The size is
derived from the font size of the view, the one in Edit->Preferences->
Mail Preferences->General tab->Message Display section->[x] Use the
same fonts as other applications. I'm not aware of any separate setting
for print and for the message preview, unfortunately.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Font size of printed text is HUGE!

2018-07-09 Thread Francesco Porro via evolution-list
Il 25/06/2018 19:21, Francesco Porro via evolution-list ha scritto:
> Il giorno lun, 25/06/2018 alle 15.45 +0200, Andre Klapper ha scritto:
>> On Mon, 2018-06-25 at 14:45 +0200, Francesco Porro via evolution-list
>> wrote:
>>> Since I rarely need to print email on paper, it's the first time
>>> I've
>>> noticed this: the printing size of a text is damn huge! And I'm not
>>> able to adjust it.
>>
>> Please provide basic steps to reproduce, such as Evolution and
>> Webkitgtk versions plus distribution name and version.
> 
> Sure!
> 
> Distro:   Arch linux (current)
> Evolution:3.28.3 
> webkit2gtk:   2.20.3-1
> 
> I'm simply doing File > Print, nothing else.
> This happens even if I print to PDF file.
> 
> Result: the difference between the On screen and on print font size is
> huge.
> 
> E.g. this it the result of printing your mail on PDF:
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=161-9-mvJyIjDGG5cEam6qLa9EWpNu0M8


So? Any ideas?

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Re: [Evolution] Recovering after suspend and resume

2018-07-09 Thread Franco Broi
On Mon, 2018-07-09 at 11:16 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> 
> Please note that evolution received many changes in this regard since
> yours 3.18.5.2, the current stable 3.28.x series behaves better, as
> far
> as I know.

I'm going to upgrade to Linux Mint 19 which I believe has Evo 3.28 -
just as soon as they fix the problems with Mesa.

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Re: [Evolution] Recovering after suspend and resume

2018-07-09 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Mon, 2018-07-09 at 09:35 +0800, Franco Broi wrote:
> Is there any way to inject instructions to Evo from the command line?

Hi,
even there are --online and --offline arguments of the `evolution`
executable, those are not passed to the running instance, they are used
to set the state on start only. I'm not aware of anything closer for
it.

Please note that evolution received many changes in this regard since
yours 3.18.5.2, the current stable 3.28.x series behaves better, as far
as I know.
Bye,
Milan

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[Evolution] POP3 features / Re: Mail server doesn't show up

2018-07-09 Thread Дилян Палаузов via evolution-list
Hello,

RFC 1939  - POP3 says there is the DELE command, with which a client
can decide to leave the email on the server or delete it.

Greetings
  Дилян

On Sun, 2018-07-08 at 18:05 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > Actually reading the above made me double check the account types and
> > actually I lied, the account that is missing is a POP3 account (I had
> > it set up as IMAP originally when it was under Windows 10 and when I
> > switched to Linux Mint I must have selected POP3) so that would explain
> > why I can't see it, as under Outlook on Windows, the account does have
> > its own tree in the left-hand panel. I hadn't realised what the purpose
> > of "On This Computer" was. Outlook creates a tree for the pop3 account
> > as well as having "Personal Folders" which I assume is the same as "On
> > This PC". 
> > 
> > How does this work if you have multiple POP3 accounts do they all
> > appear as one amorphous mass in "On This PC"? I would think it makes
> > more sense for Evo to do it the same as Outlook as it's less confusing?
> > 
> 
> POP means "post office protocol". The concept behind it is that it
> works like the post office: you have a mailbox in the post office that
> all your mail is delivered into and you retrieve it from there. That's
> all it does. You can go and get your mail and parcels from USPS or UPS
> or whoever but they all end up in the same place - your hands! (It's a
> 30 year old protocol, give me some slack!)
> 
> That is why Evolution puts everything into your Inbox "On this
> Computer" ready for you to sort through (either physically or
> automatically).  All Outlook is doing is automatically sorting it
> whether you want it to or not.
> 
> P.
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Re: [Evolution] POP3 features / Re: Mail server doesn't show up

2018-07-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2018-07-08 at 20:47 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> On Sun, 2018-07-08 at 21:33 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > each, which would no doubt include a discussion of how POP by default
> > removes mail when it is retrieved, but POP3 has extended the protocol
> > to allow mail to stay on the server and be subsequently deleted - and
> > it would also include my opinion that for a novice user who has no
> > specific requirements, IMAP is invariably the route to go - POP3 has
> > its place for some people.
> 
> I would only add to "POP3 has its place for some people" that most of
> the time those "some people" are still wrong.
> 
+1

poc
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Re: [Evolution] Recovering after suspend and resume

2018-07-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2018-07-09 at 08:21 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > 
> > I also work on a remote island with dodgy internet - Australia!!
> 
> Yeah, I'm on an island determined to make itself more and more remote
> ...

I'm on the neighbouring island ...

> > 
> > Going offline before suspend and back online after resume definitely
> > works but is a little painful, not so bad for me but my wife uses a
> > laptop and she just closes the lid..
> 
> I've never had problems with resuming, except when I had a VPN turned
> on when it went to sleep. It seems to just get very confused by the VPN
> coming backup slowly (if at all).  Always the answer has been to just
> force Evo off-line (by click the link icon in the bottom left corner),
> then putting it back on-line.

I haven't had problems turning VPN on and off, but that would be my
recommendation.

poc
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Re: [Evolution] All settings not being backed up

2018-07-09 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Thu, 2018-07-05 at 08:47 -0700, Douglas Summers wrote:
> Under Folder Properties, AutoArchive.

Hi,
you are right, the folder properties are part of the folder/account
information, which can be stored in ~/.cache/evolution/..., which is
not backed up, because the ~/.cache/ content is usually meant as a
local copy of the server-side content.

I'm currently unsure how to deal with it, but, please, if you can, file
an issue against the backup tool at:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/issues/new

Thanks and bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Mail server doesn't show up

2018-07-09 Thread Pete Biggs


> It is unhelpful that evolution by default chose pop3 for
> use...@yahoo.com.

I've just tried to configure a yahoo account and it does it as IMAP on
the version I use (3.28.3).  I don't know why it chose to use POP for
you - I didn't think that POP was the default for anything!

> 
> I don't know what the newest version does.  I hope it either offers a
> menu or radio button, or maybe a "query servers for server types"
> button.

Again, this is on the latest stable version, but when you enter the
account identity on the configuration pages there is a tick box at the
bottom that controls if it tries to look up what to do for that
particular email address. (It's a standard DNS lookup feature that most
mail providers implement.)  I think on previous versions it was a
button that allowed you to skip the lookups.  If you don't let it
automatically choose the account type you get a config page with a
drop-down to choose what to use.

> 
> If a service offers both imap and pop protocols, it seems to me that
> imap is definitely to be preferred.

IMAP is the default AFAICS.

P.


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Re: [Evolution] Recovering after suspend and resume

2018-07-09 Thread Pete Biggs


> 
> I also work on a remote island with dodgy internet - Australia!!

Yeah, I'm on an island determined to make itself more and more remote
...

> 
> Going offline before suspend and back online after resume definitely
> works but is a little painful, not so bad for me but my wife uses a
> laptop and she just closes the lid..

I've never had problems with resuming, except when I had a VPN turned
on when it went to sleep. It seems to just get very confused by the VPN
coming backup slowly (if at all).  Always the answer has been to just
force Evo off-line (by click the link icon in the bottom left corner),
then putting it back on-line.

P.

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Re: [Evolution] Mail server doesn't show up

2018-07-09 Thread Van Snyder
On Sun, 2018-07-08 at 20:18 +, Siv wrote:

> Pete,
> 
> Thanks for the explanation, given that I only have 1 POP3 account I
> will just treat "On this computer" as that account. I may redo the
> account as IMAP like it was originally as I am not sure why I selected
> the POP3 version when I switched to Linux. Particularly as the
> filtering idea sounds a bit complex.

I also appreciate the explanation.

It is unhelpful that evolution by default chose pop3 for
use...@yahoo.com.  (I don't know which version because it's not my
computer, it's a 90 minute drive to visit it, and the owner isn't home
anyway.  I can ask her for the version when she gets home next week, if
it's actually interesting.)

I don't know what the newest version does.  I hope it either offers a
menu or radio button, or maybe a "query servers for server types"
button.

If a service offers both imap and pop protocols, it seems to me that
imap is definitely to be preferred.


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