Re: [Evolution] evolution for office 365 mfa
On Thu, 2020-06-11 at 17:45 -0400, Scott Brozell via evolution-list wrote: > While that is stewing, here are several scenarios for using evolution: > > 1. run evolution via a CLI (command line interface) / TUI (textual user > interface) from a terminal ssh-ed to a: > Linux login0 3.10.0-1062.18.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Feb 12 14:08:31 UTC 2020 > x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux > Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server release 7.7 (Maipo) > # GNOME Terminal 3.28.2 using VTE 0.52.2 +GNUTLS > (the last just to show the gnome version; no GUI stuff is highly preferred) > No root access on this machine. > > > 2. run evolution as a CLI/TUI from a terminal window of a macOS 10.14.6. > This happens to have Fink 0.42.0; an oldie used to install some software. > > > 3. run evolution in a minimal GUI mode on a macOS 10.14.6. I only want to > read/write email; I don't care about calendars or other stuff. > > > 4. run evolution in a minimal GUI mode on above linux. > > Which of these are tractable ? What will be the easiest to get going ? > > > I note that https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/ > does not contain the word 'client'. That's because there is no remote Evolution 'server' part, I guess. > Presumably evolution 3.36.x > or plain evolution.git is where i should start ? > Apologies for not reading your documentation. Is there a quick start > for installing and using in a basic email client mode ? Evolution is a graphical email client (or "mail user agent"), primarily for Linux based systems. It depends on several libraries such as GTK or evolution-data-server installed and running on the very same system. Installation procedures for packages depend on your distribution. Compiling and installing manually is covered on https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution#Developer_Resources Cheers, andre -- Andre Klapper | ak...@gmx.net https://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] evolution for office 365 mfa
Hi, The organization i work for has forced on us office 365 multi factor authentication. In addition to outlook duo they are supporting evolution and have setup a tenant and application id for it. What i really want is to use those with my mutt email client, but that may not be possible or at least is not easy. While that is stewing, here are several scenarios for using evolution: 1. run evolution via a CLI (command line interface) / TUI (textual user interface) from a terminal ssh-ed to a: Linux login0 3.10.0-1062.18.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Feb 12 14:08:31 UTC 2020 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server release 7.7 (Maipo) # GNOME Terminal 3.28.2 using VTE 0.52.2 +GNUTLS (the last just to show the gnome version; no GUI stuff is highly preferred) No root access on this machine. 2. run evolution as a CLI/TUI from a terminal window of a macOS 10.14.6. This happens to have Fink 0.42.0; an oldie used to install some software. 3. run evolution in a minimal GUI mode on a macOS 10.14.6. I only want to read/write email; I don't care about calendars or other stuff. 4. run evolution in a minimal GUI mode on above linux. Which of these are tractable ? What will be the easiest to get going ? I note that https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/ does not contain the word 'client'. Presumably evolution 3.36.x or plain evolution.git is where i should start ? Apologies for not reading your documentation. Is there a quick start for installing and using in a basic email client mode ? thanks, scott ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Full history in reply
On Thu, 2020-06-11 at 08:54 -0600, Zan Lynx wrote: > On 6/11/20 8:44 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > > To be fair M$-Outlook [which many people, sadly, except as the gold > > standard of e-mail] just includes all the trash, including > > signatures, > > by default, in every ___ reply. So it sort of does this as > > most > > user's never both to delete anything. > Outlook also makes it impossible to have a real signature. I tried > pretty hard, but I never managed to get Outlook to put "-- " as a > signature delimiter. It always wants to trim the trailing space. Not > to mention, getting it to do plain text is nearly impossible. Agree [my employer moved to Outlook ~3 years ago]. Outlook immensely diminishes the usefulness of e-mail as a collaboration tool. I accept that as the reason e-mail has so much fallen out of favor - Outlook ruined it - and why we know have to live with a random collection of silos in the form of web forums, chat thingys, etc... Really, there is no reason to include an entire thread in an e-mail message - - - you have the thread in your mailbox: assuming clients "In-reply-to" correctly. E-mail is a very robust and evolved communications solutions - if people let it work. :( -- Adam Tauno Williams, awill...@whitemice.org Multi-Modal Activists Against Auto Dependent Development resisting the unAmerican socialists of the Motorist hegemony http://www.mmaaadd.org ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Full history in reply
On 6/11/20 8:44 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: To be fair M$-Outlook [which many people, sadly, except as the gold standard of e-mail] just includes all the trash, including signatures, by default, in every ___ reply. So it sort of does this as most user's never both to delete anything. Outlook also makes it impossible to have a real signature. I tried pretty hard, but I never managed to get Outlook to put "-- " as a signature delimiter. It always wants to trim the trailing space. Not to mention, getting it to do plain text is nearly impossible. -- Knowledge is Power -- Power Corrupts Study Hard -- Be Evil ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Full history in reply
On Thu, 2020-06-11 at 01:33 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > On Thu, 2020-06-11 at 09:25 +1000, Ian wrote: > > What no client ever does is to include all the other mail messages in a > thread. That would mean in this thread it would join together six > messages even though they are not part of the message I'm replying to - > I have threads of hundreds of messages and I really don't want all > those messages being added every time I reply to the thread To be fair M$-Outlook [which many people, sadly, except as the gold standard of e-mail] just includes all the trash, including signatures, by default, in every ___ reply. So it sort of does this as most user's never both to delete anything. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] search by content
Am Donnerstag, den 11.06.2020, 12:29 +0200 schrieb Milan Crha via evolution- list: > Would you mind to file a bug against Evolution [1], please? For sure. I'm happy if I can do at least that. https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/issues/982 Thank you very much and best regardsHelge ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] search by content
On Thu, 2020-06-11 at 11:44 +0200, Wiethoff, Helge via evolution-list wrote: > In short: > Using evolution-3.36.3: > online: searching by "Message contains" takes ages. I don't know if > it finishes sometime. > offline: searching by "Message contains" in a folder with ~20.000 > messages takes ~30 seconds. > > Using evolution-3.36.1: > online: searching by "Message contains" in a folder with ~20.000 > messages takes ~2 seconds. Hi, I see. I'm able to reproduce it too. It is related to the search optimizations made for 3.36.3 I mentioned earlier. The 'Message contains' uses a search in headers and body, while the 'Body contains' searches only in the body (and which is lightning fast, with compare of the 'Message contains' search). The 'Message contains' search should be changed. Would you mind to file a bug against Evolution [1], please? It'll help to track the regression and the change for it. Thanks and bye, Milan [1] https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/issues/new ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution Macro Plugin
On Thu, 2020-06-11 at 10:09 +0200, Stephane Passignat wrote: > thank you. I'll look at this sample. Hi, feel free to let me know if unsure. Maybe I can add a simplified example module to the Wiki page, which would do just what you want. In case others would find it useful. Who knows. > by macro script I mean an integrated programming language, I can used > to customize Evolution behaviour "in a kind of simple way". Don't > feel offended but something like vba for outlook. I see. It might be something like aforementioned python or JavaScript or anything, what can decipher the GObject introspection (if Evolution would produce anything like that). Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Full history in reply
On Thu, 2020-06-11 at 09:25 +1000, Ian wrote: > By convention I would expect that all of the messages are included in > the reply. Most mail clients do this, why not evolution > > Which mail clients behave in the manner that you describe. Every email client I know of, including Thunderbird, Claws, Elm, Mutt, Kmail, Outlook and Gmail. I think Pete has explained this fully so I won't elaborate further. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] search by content
Am Mittwoch, den 10.06.2020, 12:31 +0200 schrieb Milan Crha via evolution- list: > Just to make things clear, how precisely do you search in the folder, > please? Being it with the panel above the message list or otherwise, > and what exact settings you use there, please? Actually its not a really specific search variant. I always wondered why it is working so good anyway :-) I simply search the folder with the panel above the message list and search by "Message contains" in "Current folder". I tried to downgrade evolution and with evolution-3.36.1 evolution-ews- 3.36.1 the search works fine again. In short: Using evolution-3.36.3: online: searching by "Message contains" takes ages. I don't know if it finishes sometime. offline: searching by "Message contains" in a folder with ~20.000 messages takes ~30 seconds. Using evolution-3.36.1: online: searching by "Message contains" in a folder with ~20.000 messages takes ~2 seconds. thanks! Helge ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution Macro Plugin
Hi, thank you. I'll look at this sample. by macro script I mean an integrated programming language, I can used to customize Evolution behaviour "in a kind of simple way". Don't feel offended but something like vba for outlook. bye stephane Message initial De: Milan Crha via evolution-list Répondre à: Milan Crha À: evolution-list@gnome.org Objet: Re: [Evolution] Evolution Macro Plugin Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2020 12:19:22 +0200 On Wed, 2020-06-10 at 11:57 +0200, Stephane Passignat via evolution- list wrote: I think I'm reaching the end of this approach. I looked at macroscript but I haven't found. Are there any macro script I havent found? Hi,I'm not sure what you call "macro script" or "macro plugin", but maybeit's not that important. I looked at plugins code but I havent programmed in C for decades.Any ides on how and what to do ? The main programming language in Evolution is C. There can be madeGObject bindings (then it can be used by other languages like pythonand all those, which understand GObject introspection), but it'sgenerated for evolution-data-serer only, not for Evolution. You may want to engage someone knowing C, and especially glib, becauseit's used heavily there. Such person could start with the examplemodule [1] and change it to its like-ings. He/she would be mostlyinterested in the m-msg-composer-extension.c part (can delete (almost)all the rest), and it can change it to connect to the "presend" actionof the EMsgComposer, where can be implemented the question about askingwhether the sender is correctly set (the signal handler returns whetherthe message can be send). It's different from your suggested "ask oncomposer open", but I think it is not a problem, and, more importantly,it can use already implemented approach (the "presend" signal). Bye,Milan [1] https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/Extensions#Example_Module ___evolution-list mailing listevolution-list@gnome.orgTo change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] CSV file will not import.
On Wed, 2020-06-10 at 13:07 -0400, johneddie.kerr--- via evolution-list wrote: > I exported the Contacts to CSV file and then opened the file up in > LibreOffice Calc and after editing I saved it in CSV. I wonder now > if there is something silly happening with the way LibreOffice Calc > saves my CSV file. Hi, supposing Calc writes correct CSV (the separator is a comma, not a tab), you can use three different CSV import types, depending from which application you exported the values. The best to import the file from a command line, like this (you can execute it with evolution already running): $ evolution --import /tmp/file.csv which will open an import dialog, where you can also see what will be imported, aka there's a preview of the data as being processed by respective formats. Pick the format which works the best. I mean, if you exported the contacts from Evolution, then pick the Evolution format, not Mozilla, nor Outlook format. Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
