Re: [Evolution] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022
On 2022-10-26 at 12:00 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > That's interesting. It looks like Gnome are using an old version of > Discourse then. > > The comments about categories and topics is interesting. I asked if > it were possible to create sub-categories in the Applications > category and the answer was a complete and resounding NO. I think you refer to https://discourse.gnome.org/t/sub-categories/11733/6 When looking at discourse I also considered the interface should have a section per application and for properly filing the support requests. Then, actually looking at the workflow it understand it makes sense. It's a bit weird, sure, but when creating a new post, it does ask you the tag (i.e. the application), and you can search for only some application tags. It's not what I expected, it can probably be made available with a "better" interface, but their use of tags makes sense. Specially since there's such large number of GNOME applications that would have to be listed. > It seems to me that they think users/we/contributors should be > interested in the whole of the Gnome ecosystem not just one bit of > it. This is a Gnome Discourse issue, not a Discourse issue. I think it will lead to more exposure of the different silos. So that someone mostly interested in the Music player will now be more likely to help an evolution or gedit user. But, at the same time, this also means more exposure to the other apps for those not interested a tiny bit in the other parts of GNOME. > > Plain text emails going into the system should be just that. I send > them as plain text not as markdown. If I wanted to give them some > form of extra formatting I would use HTML. Can't text just be > interpreted as text. Plain text emails often use _some_ symbols for *emphasis*. While there is no clear standard for that, interpreting them as markdown isn't that an odd choice. Hyperkitty can do something similar (which is configurable): https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/hyperkitty/en/latest/rendering.html > Or it should at least be a bit more intelligent about it - if > there are markdown elements, interpret it as markdown, otherwise it's > plain text. That would be sensible. Although markdown should be mostly backwards compatible when feed with plaintext. Regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022
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Re: [Evolution] Discourse and the situation for Mailman lists hosted by Gnome.org
On 2022-10-23 at 16:53 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > What I can't understand is that all the Fedora lists, some of which > > I > > am on, continue to be run via Mailman, and presumably by staff that > > work for RedHat. This doesn't look to me like a RedHat decision. > > I've posted a question to the Fedora Users list: > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/us...@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/XXRBCEM3UQSLPPITR5L27HRPER3HZZHM/ > > Note that the list also has a web interface (HyperKitty), which is > different from Discourse. Hooray for consistency. > > poc hyperkitty is part of mailman3. [ mailman3 has a modular approach, hyperkitty is the module which shows the archives and lets you interact with them. In theory you could use a different archiver than hyperkitty while keeping mailman core (but hyperkitty is the only implementation so far). ] While mailman3 interface was designed to be more forum-like, trying to make it attractive, it's still a good old mailing list under the hood. I understand that gnome no longer wants to support mailman2. However, I would have expected to upgrade to mailman3. Yes, it is a major version upgrade. And yes, gnome has lots of mailing lists. Nonetheless, it *IS* a supported upgrade, and many other organizations (including ones with loads of mailing lists) have been able to do it. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [rebellion attempt] Fight back!
On 2022-10-24 at 12:57 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Given that mc is a GNU project, why not using the most natural > > site, > > `gnu.org`, for a mailing list? An additional bonus is that the > > gnu.org mailing list archives come with a nice – and working! – > > search > > interface. > > I don't see anything on the front page about mailing lists. Can you > be more specific? > > (I would hope that hosting the list on gnu.org wouldn't subject us to > harangues about specific distros or other software not being properly > free.) > > poc Technically, I think it would be through the savannah offering: https://savannah.gnu.org/ which provides > Mailing lists at lists.gnu.org and lists.nongnu.org, managed via > Mailman. per https://savannah.gnu.org/maintenance/WhyChooseSavannah/ You pretty much needed to already know about this to find it, though. Regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Automatic tagging as "important"
On 2022-10-21 at 11:04 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Out of interest, does it happen for other people on Evolution? > > I haven't seen this. > > poc i did not see the email from Andrea to evolution-list@gnome.org as tagged as important, but I did see the email to evolution-hack...@gnome.org And, weird enough, when looking at it on, it is now normal. Moreover, both messages are actually the same, sent as bcc to the two lists... ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Stop Evolution Automatically Asking to Decrypt Messages
On 2022-10-01 at 14:21 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > Not that I can see. GPG is such a fundamental aspect of lots of > encryption on Linux that my system won't even let me remove it and > renaming the binary would break lots of things. > > One thing that comes to mind is that there is a dconf key > > /org/gnome/evolution-data-server/camel-gpg-binary > > you could try setting that to something like /bin/false: > > dconf write /org/gnome/evolution-data-server/camel-gpg-binary > "'/bin/false'" > > Hopefully then it will try to run the program to decrypt the message > and fail. This should do. The password prompt does not come from evolution, but from gpg. When confronted with a PGP block, evolution will give it to gpg (camel- gpg-binary) to handle it. As this is an encrypted message, gpg will ask gpg-agent to decrypt it. In this case, it has the private key but it does not have the passphrase (if the gpg key had no passphrase or it was already provided in this session, it would be automatically decrypted), so it launches your pinentry to prompt for the passphrase to unlock this key. By setting /bin/false as your camel-gpg-binary, you effectively disable all gpg in your evolution. However, since you have a PGP key, and you are receiving PGP-encrypted mails, I think you would actually benefit from evolution being able to show your decrypted emails sometimes. So we would need to know to what is the actual problem (you don't want to type the passphrase every time you boot your computer? gpg-agent forgets the passphrase too early?). Kind regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Stop Evolution Automatically Asking to Decrypt Messages
On 2022-10-02 at 22:04 +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: > I'm not suggesting you are making anything up. > I'm suggesting that *Evolution is wrong* in trying to decrypt mail that > isn't indicated as encrypted in its MIME type. It shouldn't do that. It > *does* - according to what you write - but it *shouldn't*. Except... inline-PGP is **older** than MIME. MIME RFC 1341 (June 1992) is older than PGP Message Exchange Formats RFC 1991 (August 1996), but the initial release of the original PGP program was on June 1991. Traditional PGP messages were just a plaintext email with a base64 block of encrypted data between lines "-BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-" and "-END PGP MESSAGE-" Sadly they are even more interoperable than MIME nowadays, thanks to email clients (and servers) not handling MiME properly. Worst case, inline PGP can be easily copied into an external program to process it. Processing a PGP/MIME message without MUA support is a lot more complex. evolution is doing the right thing here processing the PGP parts of the email the old way, although I could see the case for a preference not to do that, if people object to it. Regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] "Compose New Message" missing in "New" dropdown in toolbar.
On 2022-09-25 at 21:16 +, Krauß, Peter (SCC) wrote: > Hello everyone! > > I just found that the "New" dropdown button in the toolbar doesn't do > anything when I click it and if I click the little downwards-triangle > next to it, all I get is a single entry called "New collection > account". > > I upgraded to version 3.44.4 and I am pretty sure it worked before. > Am I doing anything wrong? How can I get the button back to open the > mail composer when I click it? > > maybe it's relevant: I am using gtk3 3.24.34 and gtk4 4.8.1 with > awesomeWM (not Gnome). > > Cheers, > Peter That's due to some behavior change in glib2. There is a workaround of moving to another view (Contacts, Calendar...) and then back (you can do Ctrl+2, followed by Ctrl+1). That should populate the New button (and the File->New menu) again. The shortcuts still work, Ctrl+Shift+M should open the new mail message composer window. This was mentioned a few days ago: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2022-September/msg00095.html The relevant bug report https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/issues/1969 Regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Compose plain text emails that render well on MS Outlook
On 2022-08-31 at 19:59 -0300, Jorge P. de Morais Neto wrote: > The situation is a bit disappointing, but anyway I thank you for > replying. > > Regards, > Jorge If the problem is only surfacing on the signature, maybe you could setup your signature with doubled newlines? Regards Ángel ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution or dbus issue ?
On 2022-09-13 at 16:57 -0500, Anonymous Japhering wrote: > Evolution 3.44.4 (by Flathub.org) > Linux Mint 20.3 Una > Linux 5.15.0-46-generic #49~20.04.1-Ubuntu SMP > Default browser: Brave > > For the last couple of weeks, I have been seeing a new behavior while > using Evolution. Previous when I open > a link in Evolution, it would open in the default browser as a new > tab (browser is always open). > > However, now I'm seeing the link open is the already running > instance of Brave as well as a completely new > instance of Brave being started. > > Anyone else seeing this?Is this a new quirk in Evolution or a bug > in dbus? > > Thanks When you open a new link, the program (evolution here) will -af ter sme indirections- launch a new copy of your browser (here, brave), which would detect it is already running and open the link on a new window/tab in the exiting window. The flatpak sandbox may be confusing brave. Your problem seems quite similar to https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2022-August/msg00107.html but in the opposite way. Are you also using wayland? ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Is there a way to set the interface back to what it was?
On 2022-09-13 at 08:23 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > I'd disagree. > Many GNOME applications have been doing so for ages as it saves > screen estate. See attachments for examples of main windows. > > Cheers, > andre It does save screen estate,* but results in a less intuitive interface. A menu bar provides a clear separation of the actions in sections (menus) described by its title. You usually pick the right menu on first attempt (admittedly, that may be because we have been using programs for many years with a similar convention of menus File, Edit, View… so perhaps a new computer user would not be that used to find Open functions in the File menu), whereas I find that the single-menu systems replacing them to be a mixture where it's not clear where the function you are looking for will be placed. I am looking at gedit as a representative application. All the manus seem to have been merged in the hamburguer menu, with most entries at the first level, but some becoming submenus. You have the save menu in the Title bar, but save as in the menu. Cut, Copy and Paste are gone, you need to know about the contextual menu to find such entries (advanced users won't use them, but newbies do use such menus/toolbar icons) There are open and save buttons in the title bar, which make sense as they are likely to be the most used functions of a text editor. At the same time, those buttons may not be used at all for users that learned tte shortcuts Ctrl-O and Ctrl-S (precisely because these are so common, it makes sense to learn them), but I guess they might be needed for discoverability. I don't see a benefit over having them in a classic toolbar. though. (*) The savings are not as big as might be expected, though, since the title bar, which could otherwise be relatively small, then increases their size enormously (grows bigger than a toolbar) in order to host all those controls. See the attachment comparing gedit and pluma side- by-side. Kind regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution 3.44.4 signature script not working
On 2022-09-13 at 20:45 +0200, Andre Truter wrote: > Hallo, > > I installed evolution 3.44.4 using the Flatpak from Flathub.org on > OpenSUSE Leap 15.3. (The distro version is 3.34, but that does not > work with Google Calender and addressbook) > > I exported by config from 3.34 and then imported it again in 3.44. > Everything seems to be working fine, except my signature script. > > I ran evolution from the command line to see what errors are printed > and it complains about the signature directory that does not exist, > but it does. (...) Hello André Flatpaks do not have access to the full filesystem, they see a different filesystem (similar to a chroot or a docker container). Thus, evolution inside a flatpak does not have access to your script I think that moving it into /home/andre/.var/app/org.gnome.Evolution/ it will be visible to the flatpak app (you will need to adjust the paths) You can use flatpak enter to enter into that mount namespace. Kind regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Sent messages missing in search folders
On 2022-08-23 at 15:32 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: > You can setup the mail account to store reply messages in the folder > they had been replied from, instead of in the Sent folder, but it > works only for replies, new threads started by the user won't be > complete. You can configure INBOX to be your Sent folder. That way the new threads will end up in the inbox (unless you are replying from a different folder). I have been using this kind of setup for many years, and IMHO it's cleaner to have emails in both directions in the same folder (I then classify from INBOX into the proper subfolder, often with manually- triggered rules). YMMV. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Keeping email on the server
On 2022-08-19 at 13:57 -0600, larry wrote: > Since I use the word "test" pretty often, because I help a lot pf > people with programming, 3D printing, and a few other technical > subjects. > > So the first thing the ISP did was to send me an email asking for the > email that triggered the blocking. Well, I did not have it. I thought > perhaps I could find it, but I was unsuccessful. > > Furthermore, they wanted me to send that email in .eml format, and > included instructions for putting it into .eml format. One option > was: > > > Email client: > > 1. Highlight the message in your email client. > > 2. Right-click on the message and select "Save As..." > > 3. Choose Mail/Mail Files (*.eml). > > 4. Click Save. > > Of course, I not only couldn't find the message, but could not find a > way in Evolution to save it as .eml. Hello Larry The way to do it in evolution is almost like that. It's just that it is named "Save as mbox…" It's available either on File menu or in the contextual menu when right-clicking on an email. Strictly speaking, an email in mbox format is not exactly the same as eml (there is a harmless extra line at the top, and if the mail had lines beginning by "From " they would be quoted) but for most purposes (including what your ISP wanted) an mbox file would be equivalent. The emails in your normal Sent folder are what would be needed (Sent emails do have less headers, since some of them are added by the mail server itself). As for what your ISP does... I guess there is some reason to avoid that a customer sends a large number of emails with the same subject (that could be an indication that the account is compromised and being used to send spam), but their implementation seems somewhat… peculiar. You might be interested in migrating to a different email account on a provider which doesn't impose such restrictions. Best regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution and gmail
On 2022-08-16 at 23:24 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Spam filtering is under the control of the receiver. It's trivial to > tell Gmail that a message is not spam, and it will learn that for > future reference. You might also look at *why* your mail is being > classified as spam. Could it be that some people have marked it as > such? Actually, I would consider this a weak point of gmail. As a receiver, you don't know why a message is considered spam (compare that with a system like SpamAssassin, where you can view the scoring of the different modules), and even Google itself would often be unable to determine why the ML engine considered it bad. Sometimes Gmail provides some reasons, like "This message is similar to other spam messages", but (a) They are generic explanations, not always matching the underlying one and (b) They can be completely false (such as claiming as similar a message that is completely unique). Which is not to deny that it is a powerful spam filter. Finally, you have the option to create filters that exclude messages from being marked as spam. However, I have seen accounts with a wildcard "do not mark as spam" rule, with messages getting classified as spam (they _were_ spam, but still…) so, at least in the past, Gmail was overriding the filters in some cases, so it was not really "under the control of the receiver". Regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution and gmail
On 2022-08-16 at 12:30 +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: > Dnia 16.08.2022 o godz. 12:22:55 Andre Klapper pisze: > > On Tue, 2022-08-16 at 12:19 +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: > > > There is one more valid reason to use POP: if you have a main mail account > > > (A) and a secondary one (B), and you want to have all messages from > > > account > > > B forwarded to account A, but account B doesn't allow to configure > > > forwarding. > > > > That resembles http://www.xkcd.com/1172/ > > You may laugh, but many people actually do use this. > > This is even recommended by some "deliverability specialists" as a better(!) > alternative to forwarding (especially to Gmail), because forwarding breaks > SPF (or SPF breaks forwarding - it depends how do you view that issue) and > sending a lot of messages with failed SPF may decrease the reputation of the > sending server on the receiving end. Well, even if you are able to forward account B to gmail account A, Google may decide to reject a portion of those at SMTP time, so the "solution" is to point account A to *also* fetch the emails from B through POP, so they end up downloaded in that other way. Corporate version does have an option to trust a sender MTA as part of your organization (at the org level, I think), but normal users have to use this kind of duct tape. For extra fun: Gmail will also perform "SPF checks" on those POP- downloaded mails and decide on whether they are spam or not based on the (sometimes quite wrong) IP addresses it guesses… ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Understanding the "Free form expression" syntax (GMail-like search with conditional operators)
On 2022-07-27 at 11:39 -0400, Jeff wrote: > if I use the regular "Subject or Addresses contain" search mode, I > can easily find either anything that came from Marjorie, or I can > find everything related to Trello (simply by searching "trello"), but > not both at the same time since that search mode does not support > conditional operators as far as I know. Hence my (so far > unsuccessful) attempt at using the "Free form expression" search > mode. You don't need the Free form expression for this. Instead of providing a single expression in that search, click on the magnifying glass and open Advanced search. On 'Find items which match' select 'any of the following conditions' Click Add conditions as many times as you need, and fill the boxes. That way you can have a condition of Sender contains Marjorie and a second condition of Sender contains Trello. As for your problem with the Free form expression, they use a prefix notation, not infix. You would need or:(f:trello f:marjorie) Regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How do I make my own hotkeys?
On 2022-07-19 at 11:48 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I've never seen those Ctrl keys used in that way. Is that how your > keyboard accesses the arrow keys? > > The standard keys are Up and Down arrows for previous and Next > message, '.' or ']' for next unread message and ',' or '[' for > previous unread message. This is in the on-line Help. > > poc They are defined by evolution. See them on menu Message → Go To → Next Message / Previous Message. Up and Down keys work as well if you have the message list selected. The benefit of these other shortcuts (Ctrl+Page Up/Down by default) is that they work as well if you have another control selected. You may be in the foler view (arrow keys will move you between folders) or in the preview panel (they will scroll the email), and still use Ctrl+Page Down to move to the next message. Regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Calendar event updates don't update reminders
On 2022-07-22 at 10:44 -0400, Matt Connell wrote: > How do I get event *reminders* to update when I update the event? > > Oftentimes, I have a calendar event change times, to be either > delayed > or start early. I can update the calendar event manually or via the > email corresponding to the event, but the reminders mechanism doesn't > seem to "get the memo" so to speak, and will fire off at the > originally > scheduled time. > > What's the best fix for this? Do I just need to restart the > Evolution Data Server? > > Thanks! Hi Matt Which kind of calendar are you using? I have seen this many times with EWS (particularly noticeable with recurring events), so I can confirm it does happen as stated (unless it has been fixed on a newer version than the old one I'm usually seeing it at) However, restarting evolution-data-server, evolution-calendar-factory or even the whole machine won't make a difference. evolution 3.46 will have some fixes regarding reminders, see https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution-data-server/-/issues/234 but I'm not sure if it will solve this issue. Regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Connectivity warning
On 2022-07-06 at 22:44 +, Jon Gerdes wrote: > Dear all > > I'm not sure where to go to make interface suggestions so I'll start > here. > > I use Evo on my laptop to connect to an MS Exchange via EWS and auth > via Kerberos. I can be on a customer site or at > home or in the office. I can be connected via a VPN and I use IPv4 > and 6. I also suspend/resume. Basically I treat my > laptop the same way that a Windows user does - that's the whole > point. For whatever reason, I'm having snags with Samba > and winbind refreshing Kerb tickets properly. That's nothing to do > with Evo and evo-ews but the side effects are really > annoying. > > The "Failed to connect" bar at the top of the message list is a right > old pain for me. I understand that making it > prominent is desirable for people who need a right old kick in the > visuals but it makes the main part of Evo jump up and > down in response to the many button clicks I need to clear the > warnings. > > MS Outlook puts the connectivity indicator down in the bottom right > of a status bar and keeps it at a stable size. I > don't really care where it is but it should not cause nearly all of > the interface to shift around the screen when I'm > having connectivity "issues". > > Cheers > Jon Hello Jon This list is fine. This is very similar to what was raised last week: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2022-June/msg00088.html As Pete said back then, it is shown as a banner because people missed the online indicator (bottom left). Milan suggested a couple of ways to cheat by making evolution think it is online even if it's not https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2022-June/msg00088.html I haven't checked if this message has a suitable class, it might be possible to set a css override with a display: hidden. Of course, you could still have issues derived to evolution not being able to connect to the server. I'm a bit suspicious that the evolution error is actually derived from the winbind one. I suspect it may be that your system ends up confused with the proper route to your internal servers, which then causes errors both to winbind and evolution. Regarding kerberos ticket refreshes, I had issues as well in that the machine didn't renew them automatically. I managed to 'solve' it by running kinit -R with cron at a suitable interval. YMMV. Best regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] emails not closed after sending
On 2022-06-13 at 08:44 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Fri, 2022-06-10 at 21:45 +0800, rob via evolution-list wrote: > > So, how to resolve the problem? > > Hi, > it looks like the composer window leaked for some reason. (...) > > Maybe start evolution from a terminal and see whether it prints > anything in time of sending the message. The auto-save is done > approximately once per minute. I would suspect the email is sent but it is then hanging (or just taking a long time?) when saving into a remote Sent folder. In that case using a folder On this computer the problem would disappear. Finding the actual reason could then be troubleshooted looking at the communication. Regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Slow display of graphics intensive email
On 2022-05-19 at 13:20 -0400, Dr. John H. Lauterbach wrote: > RE: 3.44.0-1ubuntu1 > > Since upgrading OS and using 3.44.0-1ubuntu1 (instead of earlier > versions) ,getting some types of email containing extensive graphics > (e.g.., embedded images) to open sometimes take more than a few > seconds, sometimes more than a minute. When I reboot the PC's into > Windows 10 Pro and use Outlook 365 to open the same email, the emails > are displayed in a second or so. Both PC's have Intel CPU's with > Intel graphics. Both use the X.Org X server -- Nouveau display > driver. A third PC, which is linux only, has the same problem, and it > is using the nVidia driver. > > Am I missing something? > > Thank you, > > John What are "extensive graphics"? An image? A dozen? Of what size? Is the file in a local account or accessed via e.g. EWS or IMAP? Would you perhaps be willing to share one of those "slow emails"? Regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] help understanding a section of evolution log
On 2022-05-14 at 22:14 +, Dan Kortschak wrote: > On Sat, 2022-05-14 at 22:43 +0200, Ángel wrote: > > prepend with WEBKIT_FORCE_SANDBOX=0 to set that environment > > variable. > > > > The Webkit bug is https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=202363 > > Thanks. > > So to work around this in a convenient way (allowing desktop > integration) it would be necessary to removing sandboxing globally > withing the GNOME sessions? Is that correct? > > Dan No. You only need to remove this on evolution. Such as running it from a terminal with: WEBKIT_FORCE_SANDBOX=0 evolution & (the sandbox is probably not going to be used anywhere else, but just in case I wouldn't disable a sandbox if not needed) ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] help understanding a section of evolution log
On 2022-05-13 at 21:47 +, Dan Kortschak wrote: > It also brings some questions which have been answered here before, > but > which I can't find. > > * When printing to a file, flatpak gives evolution a sandbox >filesystem. Where can I find this filesystem from outside the >sandbox, or how can I extend the visibility that evolution has? (I >looked in the flatpak docs, but they seem more focussed towards >devs). prepend with WEBKIT_FORCE_SANDBOX=0 to set that environment variable. The Webkit bug is https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=202363 Regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] partly encrypted email
On 2022-05-13 at 07:15 +0800, Wensheng Xie wrote: > Thanks. > > The "Display plain text version" will show me the decrypted message. > I think the problem is solved. Copying PGP lines into html is a relatively common misuse. Often from encrypting on an outside application, then pasting into a html mail. But if mailvelope is creating such mail I would consider that a bug. Best regards PS: The "gpg: invalid..." errors we received in the original message were simply due to the ellipsis in the edited version, which gpg found when expecting encrypted content. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Keyboard equivalent to Ctrl + Click to select several email messages
On 2022-04-29 at 00:14 -0600, duane.johnson--- wrote: > On Thu, 2022-04-28 at 04:20 +0200, Ángel wrote: > > Move the 'focused message' with the arrow keys while keeping ctrl > > pressed (so it doesn't deselect previously selected ones), then use > > space to mark it as selected (or unselected). > > Ah! I see what you mean--there is no visual difference, but ctrl + > arrow key changes an invisible selection. > > However, when I press 'spacebar', it seems to "scroll down" in the HTML > message viewer window. I don't believe I've changed 'spacebar' from its > default. What am I doing differently? > > Thanks, > Duane Good point. I di not mention this detail. Don't release the Ctrl key. Keep it pressed the whole time, when using the arrows and when using the space bar. Best regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Message format changes when replying to HTML message even after selecting option to not lose format
On 2022-04-29 at 14:55 -0400, Eloy Paris wrote: > > However, if I forget to manually change the message format, then the > original HTML is rendered to a plain text version, and embedded > images are lost in the message received by the recipient. > > Should the message format not be HTML if the user selects the option > "Don't lose formatting" instead of changing to the user's chosen > default format? Yes. If you chose "Don't lose formatting", the editor should show the contents in HTML, and the selector should be HTML. What's your evolution version, please? ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Keyboard equivalent to Ctrl + Click to select several email messages
On 2022-04-26 at 10:06 -0600, duane.johnson--- via evolution-list wrote: > Hello! > > Is there a way to use the keyboard to select a message, with "holes" > between selected messages? > > The arrow keys can be used to move the selection up/down, and when I > hold Shift + Down (or Up) then multiple email messages can be > selected. Move the 'focused message' with the arrow keys while keeping ctrl pressed (so it doesn't deselect previously selected ones), then use space to mark it as selected (or unselected). Beware that I am not seeing a visual difference when moving that focus, except that (un)selecting a message shows it did move. That's probably just a theme issue, but you could be facing it as well. Regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Connecting Evolution to an Exchange 2010 server
> On Thu, 2022-03-24 at 19:21 +0700, Frederic Muller wrote: > > In the meantime are there any methods to test the server and find out > > what it supports? May I suggest https://www.ssllabs.com/ ? Although a much better fix would be that they get the server cipher fixed. If I remember right, TLS 1.2 can be enabled in that old IIS, it's just an unchecked by default checkbox. Still more concerning, if such observable broken state has been that way for so long, it probably didn't get security patched for proxylogon and proxyshell vulnerabilities either, which basically means that if it was exposed on the internet, it probably has been compromised and abused for many months now (with cryptominers, to send malicious mails, etc.). https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/remediating-microsoft-exchange-vulnerabilities https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/exchange-team-blog/proxyshell-vulnerabilities-and-your-exchange-server/ba-p/2684705 https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-exchange-servers-are-getting-hacked-via-proxyshell-exploits/ (I'm afraid this won't be too reassuring for you, sorry) Regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] No editor
On 2022-03-25 at 12:57 -0500, Hugh Devlin wrote: > thanks to all for the replies > > several upgrades and difficulties with the HTML and plain text > editors persist > > please can someone point me to where I might report this to the > ubuntu jammy team > close to the evolution-ubuntu integration? > > thanks in advance Launchpad: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution won't start
On 2022-03-11 at 22:42 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Fri, 2022-03-11 at 22:27 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > > So what is the value of /proc/sys/user/max_user_namespaces or what > > is > > the result of > > > > sudo sysctl -a | grep max_user_namespaces > > > I think that indicates the maximum number of namespaces, not their > maximum size. Yes. And a value of 0 would disable the ability of creating user namespaces and thus of bwrap working in the OP environment. I would also look at > sysctl kernel.unprivileged_userns_clone since that can disable the user namespace as well (value 0 = disabled), and at least in the past it defaulted to being disabled in Debian. Regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Chinese characters shown instead of Swedish at the receiver å / ä / ö
On 2022-03-09 at 06:35 +, Sorin Srbu wrote: > According to various sources from Google I searched yesterday, some say > Office365 does occasionally do some unnecessary conversions that may break > the text encoding if a 3rd party mail client is used. Be that as it may, > I'll take your advice and run with Unicode UTF-8 for a while and see what > the recipients at work have to say. > > Will report back in a while with results. > Thanks all for now! I thought the error happened every time? I would send test emails both to your colleagues and someone out of the company. The email header should be converted into rfc2047 encoded form,* which contain the used charset. This is independent of the body charset. The email body could be in utf and the subject in iso-8859-1 It could even mix several charsets in the same header. Of course, if it's not just the subject that needs to contain an å but e.g. also one of the recipient names, it may take a bit more to find all the missing pieces. Plus, Exchange/Office365 sometimes likes to mess with the contents, and thus, for extra fun it could be that it is changing your email when sending / showing it. Best regards * There is rfc 6531/6532, but I'm pretty sure Office365 isn't using it. PS: regarding having dates and times in a different locale, you may wish to set LC_TIME to a different value than the default one for the rest of the system. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] account bugs (Show-stoppers) on installation
On 2022-02-04 at 07:01 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > However, as to understand how dependencies are handled by Arch Linux, > read the documentation and if appropriate, report a missing > dependency https://bugs.archlinux.org/ . > > Manjaro probably provides a bug tracker, too. I suspect that Manjaro is > kind of an Arch Linux based Ubuntu alike Linux distro ;) and maybe the > maintainers are using Arch Linux PKGBUILDs and sometimes miss to edit > them, to make the packages "user-friendly". It does seem to miss a dependency on gnome-keyring. I had a look at evolution dependencies on Manjaro, basically: $ wget https://mirror.easyname.at/manjaro/stable/extra/x86_64/evolution-3.42.3-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst $ tar --to-stdout -xvf evolution-3.42.3-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst .PKGINFO and then recursively inspect other packages. It's easier to view on Arch, whose packages seem to have the same dependencies (apparently they are the same), but provides a nice html interface: https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/evolution/ There doesn't seem to be a dependency of gnome-keyring from installing evolution. It does have the following chain: evolution (depends on) evolution-data-server (depends-on) gnome-online- accounts (depends on) libsecret (optionally depends on) org.freedesktop.secrets (provided by) gnome-keyring or keepassx but since libsecret only optdepends on org.freedesktop.secrets, there would be no need to have a secret provider installed. Regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Showing replies below mails
On 2022-01-27 at 12:54 +, Krauß, Peter (SCC) wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I wonder if it's possible to configure Evolution in a way that I my
> reply mails are grouped in the thread they belong to.
Hello Peter
evolution groups mails by thread in the current view. That's usually
the folder you have open. I think if you made a search for all messages
to/from Alice, you would view them threaded as well. But it requires
you to perform a search.
> Currently, mails are only grouped there if I activate a setting in the
> account preferences ("Save replies in the folder of the message"), yet
> this only works for mails sent with Evolution.
Saving sent messages along the received ones helps to keep everything
organized, indeed. (IMHO, YMMV) Both for threading and for normal
filing.
I thus prefer not to save sent messages separately.
However…
> I also use the account on my smart phone and with other mail clients
> (OWA), resulting in the reply emails only present in the sent-mails-
> folder and thus not appearing in the mail thread.
if you use a different client, it may decide to save what you send
wherever it wants to, which can be different than where *you* would
want it to save it.
In some cases with multiple clients you could even end up with
*multiple folders*: Sent messages, Sent items, Verschickt, Sent…
e.g. the recently mentioned case of multiple Trash folders:
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2022-January/msg00130.html
If you want a client to save the mails somewhere else, you will need to
configure / request such setting for that client.
As far as I know, it is not possible to designate the same folder for
two roles in Exchange.
> Further I found that OWA can indeed group mails with replies in a
> thread somehow even if the reply was sent with a totally different
> mail program. So I was wondering if Evolution could do that too.
You could create virtual folders, so instead of Inbox you could e.g.
use a folder which included both your physical Inbox and Sent folders.
But if you want to include everything on Sent when viewing every
folder, you would need to create a virtual folder for every normal one
(plus, the sent messages would appear on unrelated views).
My process -I dare not to call it a workaround- is to periodically move
the emails that were sent with a different client from Sent to the
Inbox, to later distribute then to the 'right' folder.
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Re: [Evolution] Debugging folder-related problems: sometimes missing, and unable to expunge
On 2022-01-27 at 10:13 +0100, Milan Crha wrote: > Why the server returns multiple similarly-named folders > I do not know. Account was probably migrated through several servers / backends / versions, which had multiple ideas on how they should be named. Or, alternatively, it got multiple clients connected, each with its own idea on the right way to name them... Best regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Strange result from copying
On 2022-01-24 at 08:48 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Mon, 2022-01-24 at 03:17 +0100, Ángel wrote:
> > This is /supposed/ to give you a better result, although I beg to
> > disagree on some cases (for instance copying from libreoffice calc
> > produces images in evolution not tables).
>
> Hi,
> that had been addressed recently:
> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/issues/1714
> Bye,
> Milan
*Sees last month commit.*
Oh, nice ❤ :-)
Now I only need to figure a way so that the powers that be accept that
fix.
Looking at is_libreoffice_content() code at
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/commit/8f7ad8b065e59752c7a9468f14009a5f9d2c663e
those comparisons on variable ii and j seem to make the code harder to
read. I think it would be clearer to simply do:
(...)
if (g_ascii_strncasecmp (name, prefixes[jj].prefix,
prefixes[jj].len) == 0) {
g_free(name);
return TRUE;
}
g_free (name);
}
return FALSE;
}
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Re: [Evolution] Strange result from copying
On 2022-01-17 at 13:30 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > Yes, true of all applications, all platforms: Copy-n-paste from web > browsers is broken. I have no issue copying from nytimes.com using firefox and pasting into evolution. What firefox version are you using? > Also there are security issues from copy-n-paste from web browsers. > > I bounce-paste everything from a web browser through my text editor. > That is the only way, there is no other solution to this problem, the > problem is web browsers. Both applications (the one where you copy and the one where it is pasted) will negotiate the format they prefer. From firefox to the mail composer that should probably be html (probably also in Plain mode), so that heading, format, hyperlinks, etc. are preserved. This is /supposed/ to give you a better result, although I beg to disagree on some cases (for instance copying from libreoffice calc produces images in evolution not tables). An intermediate paste through a plain text editor forces a text-only negotiation, and thus avoid whatever mixup is happening in what they are agreeing to. It looks as if the browser got utf-8 but it got interpreted as utf-16. I can even copy the mojibake from your mail and convert it back to something readable with iconv -f utf-8 -t utf-16: > ��Biden took aim at those who would lower prices by breaking the > buying > power of the working class. “If car prices are too high right now, > there > are two solutions,” Biden said. “You increase the supply of cars by > making more of them, or you reduce demand for cars by making > Americans > poorer. That’s the choice. Believe it or not, there’s a lot of people > in > the second camp.” (those two initial bytes are 'ff fe', a BOM mark) Best regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Help with recovering e-mails
On 2022-01-12 at 16:23 +, j...@springwellapiaries.co.uk wrote: > I'm sure it's been covered before, but I have failed to find it. > > I've just made a clean install of Fedora 35 and then Evolution > 3.42.2 (3.42.2-1.module_f35+13513+2c5bddf4) . > > I then realised I had forgotten to backup evolution!*!! > > All my local e-mails contact etc are still in the /Home directories, > but the newly installed Evolution just wants me to set everything up > again. > > How can I get it to use the information in the /Home directory > rather than start again? If you didn't touch your $HOME, evolution should have picked them automatically. Which evolution version were you running before? Regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Local Linux mail
On 2022-01-13 at 08:22 -0800, jg60 wrote: > Hello, > > Getting error when adding local Linux mail, with Local Delivery File > of "/var/spool/mail/jpg", account to evolution. > > Evolution version: 3.30.5-1+deb10u1 > Flatpak version: 1.2.5-0+deb10u4 > (...) > > Anyway, hitting brick wall in trying to diagnose what is stopping > Local Linux mail from being accessed/controlled by Evolution. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Best regards. Hello jpg Flatpack runs under its own view of the filesystem, so it probably has no access to the "outside" /var/spool/mail/jpg I suspect this is the root of the issue. Similarly for being unable to run your sendmail binary provided by postfix. evolution running natively would probably work without these issues. It may be possible to mount that location into the flatpack, but it's not something I have investigated. Best regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Help configuring debugging
On 2022-01-10 Bridger Dyson-Smith wrote: > Using the notes here[1], I've set up a simple script to help start > Evolution: (...) Hello Bridger Note that in your script you were not exporting the variables, so evolution would not see them. You would want to either do export EWS_DEBUG=1 export CAMEL_DEBUG=... or, if your shell doesn't support this abbreviated form / you want to be strictly POSIX conformant, add a export for each variable as its own statement. Alternatively, you can use set -a before defining the variables, so that they automatically get the export attribute (set -a is defined by POSIX). Finally, you do not want to use $(): $(evolution >> ~/evolution-debugging-log.txt 2>&1) this asks to execute a program with the name of the output of evolution (which you are redirecting to a file, so it would actually don't return any program name to run) You would want to list it as-is: evolution >> ~/evolution-debugging-log.txt 2>&1 Best regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Syncing a new Android phone - Gnome Evolution Contacts/Addressbook & Calendar - some progress
On 2022-01-08 at 11:14 -0500, Max Pyziur wrote: > Adding: from ver 12.7.05.26 menu (three bars), there is "All > Contacts;" tapping that shows a breakdown of different addressbooks > on the phone, but it doesn't show the MemoToo addressbook. You probably had an app in the old phone that acted as a provider of the MemoToo addressbook. This was then used by other apps like Contacts. Installing this missing piece on your new phone should fix it. Best regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Empty cache file
On 2022-01-05 at 11:29 +, Mark wrote: > Hello list, > > My Evolution on this laptop seems to be rather broken as of this > morning. For any new messages synchronised from an IMAP folder, I get > an error when opening them along the lines of: > > Empty cache file: > /home/mark/.cache/evolution/mail/a6bb2aca8488f40e1eebd248af7c9e2a82c86f > 05/folders/INBOX/cur/02/6469 > > Looking at the referenced files, they certainly have zero size. Could it be that you filled your disk/partition/quota at the time it downloaded it? ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Send Account Overrides behavior
On 2022-01-04 at 09:25 -0500, George Reeke wrote: > What does it mean to create a message "in a folder"? I click "New" > typically with the usual inbox preview on the screen and thought > that location was irrelevant. Are you saying I can go to the > "On this Computer" tree on the left, click on a folder, then click > "New" and have it sent from the account I listed for that folder in > Preferences? Or is there some other way to be "in a folder"? Yes. The mail folder you had selected. > OK, nice, but probably quicker just to click the send account > I want in the triangle in the From entry widget. Correct? Probably. The time needed is probably very similar. I think it's more noticieble if you are e.g. in folder Work and creating a new mail automatically chooses your Work email address. Kind regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Send Account Overrides behavior
On 2021-12-22 at 12:19 -0500, Matt Connell wrote: > If I'm reading this well (I read it before posting a question but not > thoroughly enough), it appears as though this feature only affects > *replies*, and not new messages. Do I understand that correctly? When you open a New message the To: header is usually empty, so it doesn't know who you are going to write to, so it is unable to provide the right default account. You seem to be opening it from the contacts view so that it's already prefilled? I'm not seeing that option here, but as you seem to have that, I think it would make sense as a feature to support account overrides in that case as well. Best regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution hangs if Gnome Keyring isn't open before starting
On 2021-12-18 at 09:20 -0500, Julius Merphik wrote: > Using Evolution 3.36.5-0ubuntu1 on Ubuntu 20.04.3, Evolution hangs if > the Gnome Keyring isn't already open when Evolution is started, at > least when Evolution is configured to access more than one Google > account. Hello Julius Are you using the Gnome Desktop Environment or another DE? If you are using GNOME, isn't gnome-keyring already autostarted by it? > Expected behavior: If Gnome Keyring isn't open when Evolution is > started, a password prompt is displayed to unlock the keyring. Evolution asks the Keyring, and if it isn't there it would show the password prompt (i.e. it it was working). Note that if the keyring wasn't running it should be activated automatically. > Actual behavior: For e-mail, folders are never loaded, each account > says "Loading...," and eventually this error message appears: "Failed > to connect account '[account name]'. The reported error was 'Failed > to authenticate: Timeout was reached'." Calendars do not sync. > Evolution hangs, and has to be force-closed or killed from the > command line. It seems that the keyring hangs without providing any answer. This causes evolution to stall awaiting, until it finally reaches a timeout. > In addition, this causes other applications that rely on the Gnome > Keyring (e.g., Chrome) to fail to start until Ubuntu has been > restarted. Since Chrome is failing as well, this doesn't seem a problem of evolution. It seems implicit in how you phrased it, but can you confirm that if you *manually* launch gnome-keyring before running evolution it does work? Thus I think the problem may actually be somethign on the lines of "when gnome-keyring is launched by evolution it fails to load and freezes". > Suggestions for fixing or reporting this as a bug much appreciated. > Thank you. Both evolution and gnome-keyring bug trackers are at https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME The part I find more interesting is that chromium fails as well, but gnome-keyring working if it was already opened. If evolution request contained something that made it hang, I would expect it to always fail. I *suspect* that if, after one failed opening of evolution, you killed gnome-keyring, then you would be able to open chromium without having to resort to a full system restart. As a way of debugging, you could watch the dbus messages, trying to make sense on when it fails. I don't expect them to be too readable, though. Best regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] MH folders editing
On 2021-12-17 at 21:17 +0100, Francesco Scaglione wrote: > I do not need to import the folders, no, I would indeed like > to create an MH account and point it to the right folders, > the second option you mention; but without receiving new > mails there, since I'm already currently receiving the mails > from those accounts, in Evolution, through the IMAP > protocol. > > I'm really only looking for a way to consult the archive of > mails received during ten years in Claws-mail and recorded > in those MH folders. That's exactly what that second option allows you. If you don't tell evolution to store mail into that MH account, nor are other programs (Claws, the synchronization process…) storing new mails there, those contents won't change. Best regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Wrong dates in calendar
On 2021-12-01 at 10:01 +0100, aguador wrote: > Hi Milan, > > JeanPierre is not the only one affected. I have been seeing this on my > systems here in Spain for so long, at least a couple of years, in any > event long enough that I cannot recall when these dates started showing > the day before. I just started viewing them as a day-before > notification. Attached is the ics for Spain's 6 December Constitution > Day. > > Roy I wonder if these events-at-the-day-before could be the result of a system setting up (or editing) recurring events without taking leap years into account. According to your buggy calendar, which day was Christmas on 2019? When will be Christmas in 2024? Regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] multiple pop accounts and legacy archive
On 2021-11-22 at 16:01 +, Peter Wurmsdobler wrote: > Hello again, > > > there are two columns, one is referring the 'Date' header, another is > > referring the 'Received' header. The 'Received' header is usually not > > part of the Sent messages. > Just added the Received header, and for some reason for few dozen > messages there is a large discrepency between the Date and the Received > time stamps, perhaps due to the `mb2md` conversion. Note that sometimes the reported Date: header doesn't match the Received: one. * The sender may have its clock wrong * A mail server may have its clock wrong * The email may have been awaiting for some time on some MTA (graylisting, server was down, routing problems…) * Spam mails are sometimes purposefully backdated (so )of future-dated in an attempt to make them appear at the top of the inbox Best regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Wrong dates in calendar
(Note: the quoting was horrible, with the full mail by Andre, with zero level of quoting, then your reply below. Please quote only the relevant parts) On 2021-11-25 at 23:36 +0800, JeanPierre wrote: > The system time zone is set to Perth/Australia (+ 8 i think). In > preference, Evolution is set to use system time. > There is no online calendar, it's just Evolution calendar 'Personal > On This Computer' The Olson db entry is named Australia/Perth, and it's indeed 8 hours ahead of UTC, for example: > Therefore TZ='Australia/Perth' will be used. > Selected time is now: Mon 29 Nov 06:30:00 AWST 2021. > Universal Time is now:Sun 28 Nov 22:30:00 UTC 2021. > > I checked on an other computer that is running Manjaro and has a more > up to date version of Evolution (3.42.1), but it has the same wrong > dates. > > Cheers > JP evolution must be parsing it according to an hour (either explicitly in the calendar or 'guessed') which, when adding timezone offset, leads to such day bump. Which kind of calendar are you using? Best regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] OAuth2 secret not found and gmail
On 2021-10-27 at 14:35 -0700, Van Snyder wrote: > I have not updated WebKitGTK explicitly. I was unaware of its > existence and role until I read this message. I ran "apt-get update". > One is recommended to do this frequently. I haven't examined the long > log to determine whether WebKitGTK was part of the update. apt-get update updates the *list* of packages, but it doesn't update the system itself. To do that, in addition of an apt-get update you would need to *then* perform also apt-get dist-upgrade (or, for a more limited upgrade, apt-get upgrade) By the way: > I'm using Evolution 3.38.3-1 on Debian Buster 10. The version in Debian 10 "Buster" is evolution 3.30.5-1.1 whereas evolution 3.38.3-1 i is found in Debian 11 "Bullseye". You probably got one of the pieces wrong. The webkit package mentioned by Milan is named libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37 in Debian, with latest version being 2.34.1-1~deb10u1 and 2.32.4-1~deb11u1 respectively. You can find the version you have installed running: dpkg -l libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37 Regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to edit/insert html code
On 2021-08-31 at 18:18 +0200, jonathan mercier wrote: > Dear, > > I would like to customize my HTML mail, but I have not yet found how > to edit the html generated code or to insert mine > Save the html you want to insert into a file. Then go to Insert menu and pick "HTML File…" Regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to display attached pictures ?
On 2021-09-03 at 18:55 +0200, Pierre THOMAS via evolution-list wrote: > Bonjour, > > "View All Inline" got with the down arrow is exactely what I want, > but > without having to click any button. A parameter available in the menu > could allow this possibilty for simple type files (pictures, text, > PDF, ...). Note that if the attachment was big enough, or with enough attachments, the client could take a while to display the email contents if it needs to inline all of them. > (I hope this time I understood what is "top-posting" !! and that > this simple text message is correctly composed ...) > Yes, it as properly composed :-) Best regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] calendar :: inconsistent alarm messaging
On 2021-08-27 at 21:41 +0200, Matthias Kuntze wrote: > I'm using Evolution 3.36.5-0ubuntu1. > > When it comes to calendar alarms, I have strange behavior (...) Which kind of calendar is it? A local evolution calendar? CalDAV? EWS? Regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Google and EWS connector auth pia
On 2021-08-26 at 22:02 +, Michael Piko wrote: > Thank you Pete. I'll review the link again however I believe I have > looked at it before. > > I'm sure the token is being regenerated - as it should - and > evolution should deal with that without additional user intervention > just as other product do. > > Interestingly, some of the time I am asked to provide a password and > others I am asked only to click allow. > > I'll try to find some log info next time it happens. I would recommend you to keep track as well of is it failing, in case you can spot a pattern. You mention it fails once a day. I guess it's not at the start of the day, as you would probably have noticed. But perhaps it's 24 hours after last authentication -or a less common amount, such as 20 hours-, and it slowly rolls through the day since it probably takes a bit for you to reauthenticate. Cheers ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to add a Send later button
On 2021-08-21 at 18:47 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > This is not just an affectation - if you reply > to the list and to me, the list management software sees that I have > already got a copy and doesn't send me the list version, so the only > version I have is the one direct from you and that doesn't contain > the list specific headers, so it's much more difficult for me to > reply to the list only. As a sidenote, whether to skip duplicates to the user is a mailman setting, so you could configure your account to receive such duplicates, and setup a filter which on receiving a mail addresses to you and the list and without list headers, sends back an autoreply saying "I see you copied me in a mail to the list, since that makes it harder to process, it is being automatically deleted, you can expect that I read it from the list. No need to explicitly copy me." and Deletes the email. Obviously that won't work with "smart" servers deduplicating your mail by themselves, such as Gmail, but should work anywhere else. Best regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Initial run moved many emails from IMAP folders to Junk
On 2021-08-18 at 07:39 -0700, John A via evolution-list wrote: > > You should be aware that Trash is also a virtual folder by default. > > The Trash folder shows the messages that are marked as deleted. > > Again, by default those deleted messages are hidden (View -> Show > > deleted messages). Since the Trash is virtual, there is no concept > > of "Move to Trash". > > > > This can be configured on an a per account basis - i.e. the Junk > > and Trash can be real folders. > > > > How will evolution interact with other clients on the same IMAP > account? How will any other client recognize a "virtual" folder? > > Is there some way to set these options on a newly configured > evolution before it starts creating virtual copies of things? > > What are these "virtual copies"? When I search I see "saved search" > "virtual folders" for thunderbird, and "shared virtual folders" for > courier-imap (courier is the IMAP server here), and "virtual > directories" for dovecot. Are any of these related to evolution's > "virtual folders"? No. Virtual folders in evolution are just searches, shown as a folder. They are local to evolution, other clients won't know about them (and in fact, you can have a virtual folder spanning several accounts). Since you saw the changes in the other clients, it seems you are using them as real folders. Regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Rules bug?
On 2021-07-21 at 10:28 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > Hi, > the idea behind the default value is that the filters may forward > multiple message, thus it's better to pile them up and flush the > Outbox at once, rather than connect to the sending server for each > message separately. > If you receive 5 emails, and 3 of them match a rule (or two) which forward them to both Alice and Bob, it makes sense not to create 6 separate connections, but to batch them at once. However, I think the expectation would be that they _do_ get sent automatically, not that the user will need a manual outbox flush. The tricky part would be when mixed with normal outbox mail. Trying to make it behave as expected without complicating it, maybe it could do something like this: When going to apply the rules to a bunch of emails, set a variable filters_outbox_mails to 0 When running a forward-to in a rule, if the number of mails in the outbox are the same as the value of this variable, increment the variable before putting the new email in the outbox. After the filters have run, if the value of the variable is non-zero and equal to the number of emails in the outbox, then perform an automatic outbox flush. The goal is that if the user is using the outbox himself (the user already had emails waiting in the outbox, or he does a send using outbox while the filters are being run), the emails from the filter would get piled there, as the user is expected to do a flush at some point. Otherwise, sent them automatically. Does this seem to make sense and result in an intuitive behavior? > Another benefit is to have a chance to check what is forwarded. This seems mostly useful for debugging, probably few people review every time what their filters send. Best regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Suddenly Japanese language no longer working
On 2021-07-17 at 08:48 +, Axel Lieber wrote: > Been using Evolution for about a half year now (on Ubuntu). Through > several updates there was never any problem, Japanese language emails > would be displayed correctly and writing them was also fine. Never > had to do anything special, it just worked. Three days ago (I think) > there was a wholesale automatic update to the system. The sort that > includes a hodgepodge of stuff, including firmware updates, drivers, > libraries and also Evolution. Since that update, Japanese appears as > gibberish. I've tried changing the character encoding settings to no > avail. Wasn't ever necessary before, and shouldn't be. But anyway, I > tried, and no dice. > > Ubuntu 20.04 > Evolution EWS 3.40.3 > I guess Evolution itself is 3.40.3 as well? > Any suggestions? View → Message source See which charset the message states to be (should be in the Content- Type: header). Check which charset it is actually using. You may need to decode some base64 or quoted-printable. Then test some encoding (you can use iconv(1)) to find out this. Typically the Japanese will be in JIS or UTF-8. Then, knowing which kind of encoding was used, and marked which don't work should help finding out the error. Regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Auto Select First Message in List
On 2021-07-10 at 12:11 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Fri, 2021-07-09 at 13:41 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list > wrote: > > On Fri, 2021-07-09 at 10:53 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > I do have "Show Deleted Messages", yet if I delete a message it > > > disappears from the list a second or two later (not instantly). > > > > Hi, > > there had been a feature request to support Undo in the Mail view, > > but > > it was never implemented. One reason is the undo is not a real undo, > > you cannot restore to the exact same state when the messages are > > moved > > around in the IMAP folders (the UID changes, together with the folder > > state). > > Thinking about this a little more, if the option is presented as > Undelete rather than Undo, I don't see a problem in principle. I > agree that a full Undo would have a lot of implications, some of them > possibly unforeseen, but Undelete is at least conceptually simple. To > reduce complications it could perhaps only operate on the current > folder with messages deleted in the current session. > > poc I think an Undo feature would be more useful than a simple Undelete. There are more things to undo than deletes: * You were dragging some mails and lifter the mouse for a second, now the mails are in some random folder * You ran a filter which _should_ have filed the mails correctly but turns out it didn't (probably multiple filters matched) So the main functionality would be you did something and want things back like they were, even though you may not fully know what was done. I don't think not having an identical state at low-level is needed. Just like moving a file to a different partition, then moving back it may have a different inode. Yet, the user is just concerned with having a file named X on folder Y (with content Z). It's probably non-trivial, though. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Backup and duplication Evolution Email
On 2021-06-21 at 00:03 +0100, David Greig via evolution-list wrote: > Hi, > > I need to transfer(xfer) Evolution Email to a new computer > > My observation is that email and settings are in >1 folders. > > What should I do? https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/backup-restore.html.en Although if you are migrating the whole account, simply copying your HOME would do. Regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] TLS handshake
On 2021-05-24 at 07:27 +1000, Dean Davis wrote: > Hi > > upgraded Fedora 33 to 34, On opening evolution can not connect to EWS > account without a SSL Certificate for Blah is not Trusted. > > Reason: Error performing TLS handshake: One of the involved > algorithms has insufficient security level. > > The reported error was “Error performing TLS handshake: One of the > involved algorithms has insufficient security level.”. > > Thanks > Dean I guess the server is using like TLS 1.0 ? I think first step would be to try get the server configuration upgraded, if that fails I think it would be possible to add an exemption, but I think Fedora does its TLS configuration on its own way, so I may not be able to advise on that. Best regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] gmail imapx extremely slow?
On 2021-05-18 at 19:12 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: > At the moment my email is fast again. It's pretty clearly something > on the server side. Which means I'm unlikely to ever be able to > resolve it and will have to wait and see if Google does something > about it. Sigh. Note you _should_ be able to complain to your IT team, which _should_ be able to pass the complaint to their GSuite liason. A benefit of paying for a service is that you are generally entitle to some level of support. Cheers ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Downloading emails from iCloud
On 2021-05-02 at 16:51 -0600, KS wrote: > I am currently running: > > Linux Distro Elementary OS 5.1.7 Hera, built on Ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS > > Linux 5.4.0-66-generic, GTK 3.22.30 > > > "Sebastien mentions he has already uploaded the fix to Ubuntu 20.04" > > Does this mean those of us running Ubuntu 18.04.x (Bionic Beaver) LTS > are out of luck, or will there be a resolution for that release? > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes#Support_lifespan > > > Thanks in advance. > > Regards, > > Kurt Scherffius That's more a question for Ubuntu maintainers. 18.04 is supported until 2023, and since the fixes have been applied or are going to be applied to later releases, I think there is a good chance for it to be fixed if requested. I would suggest you ask on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution-data-server/+bug/1925742 about that. On the other hand, you mention you are not using Ubuntu 18.04 directly. So, depending how they handle newer packags, even after being fixed you might find that still isn't readily available there. OR they could be willing to fix it downstream. I'm not familiar with their policies. Alternatively, you could install a newer version using flatpack (which may have its own drawbacks), or backport it yourself. That's surely more work than receiving it from others, but free software *allows* you to do that. Other licenses leave you completely at the mercy of the vendor. Regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Downloading emails from iCloud
On 2021-05-01 at 16:10 +0700, Julien Mayard wrote: > Version: Evolution 3.36.4-0ubuntu1 on Ubuntu 20.04. > > Hello, > > I connected Evolution iCloud to get my emails (IMAP), contacts and > calendars using the Apple App-specific Password. > It worked perfectly well for nearly a year. But recently I cannot get > any email at all. The only error message I get is "Error while > retrieving files: Parse Error (took 0 ms)". > I tried erasing the account and reinstalling it. I tried changing the > Apple App-specific Password. But the result is the same. > > Thanks in advance for any help. Hello This is a bug in evolution uncovered by a recent change in iCloud. It has been discussed here last week. See https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/issues/1468 for the bug. evolution has now fixed it. As for having that fix on Ubuntu see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution-data-server/+bug/1925742 Sebastien mentions he has already uploaded the fix to Ubuntu 20.04 (focal), albeit looking at https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal-updates/evolution-data-server it doesn't seem to be there yet. Best regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution keeps asking for my passwords
On 2021-03-24 at 15:01 -0700, Steven Taylor wrote: > Hi, I have had evolution 3.36.4-0ubuntu1 running for about a week now > on my Kubuntu 20.04 system and it has been fine. Today, when I booted > the system, it said an application wanted access to my keyring so I > entered my password for that and started Evolution. Now every time > Evolution checks my mail, it asks for my email passwords, I put them > in, sometimes leaveing the "Store password in the keyring" box > checked, sometimes with the box cleared. Everytime, it goes ahead and > retrievesmy mail okay, but the next time, it asks for the password > again. It has never done this before now and I haven't made any > changes. I am about ready to go back to Opera as my mail client. evolution isn't able to communicate with your keyring. Thus it is asking the password everytime (and is unable to save it, and thus it gets asked again next time). If there really wasn't any change, I would reboot and see if it gets picked properly, as it may be the quickest solution. Otherwise, you can start by shutting doen all evolution processes (eolution --force-shutdown), checking the keyring contenst (open seahorse)... Best regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Can I adjust the width of the scroll bar in the message window?
On 2021-03-21 at 23:07 +, bob_mo...@fractalgarden.me.uk wrote: > Hi, I use Evolution as my main email program in Fedora Linux. > > Is there a version for windows that I can use to transfer over to > when I am on my Windows 10 PC? I'm afraid there's not. It is now possible to run some Linux programs natively on Windows, so perhaps that might be doable, I'm not aware of any success story of that, though. Cheers ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Bug copying email address into new email?
On 2021-03-20 at 12:03 -0400, George Reeke wrote: > On Sat, 2021-03-20 at 00:21 +0100, Ángel wrote: > > On 2021-03-18 at 09:42 -0400, George Reeke wrote: > > > Milan, thanks for letting me know it's fixed, it is easy enough > > > to click the middle button instead (really a scroll wheel, that's > > > why I was avoiding it). --trimmed-- > > > > Is it happening consistently for you, though? > Yes, every time. > > This looks like a problem of the Cc field not getting selected (the > > body stayed selected, or got the selection after clicking Cc). > The last thing I did was open the new mail. I never clicked in > the body. Not clear how it gets selected--maybe it's the default > when a new mail is opened. But yes, clicking in the Cc field > is supposed to select it. I believe it is (was?) a bug that > it is not selected by clicking there. > > Albeit using a newer version, I am unable to reproduce it as well. > Fits what Milan said. > > I found a similar case, though. If in the Edit menu instead of > > Paste (...) > I am clicking Paste IN the Edit menu, not clear what you mean by > this. I have two entries in the Edit menu: - Paste - Paste Quotation > > > > Maybe that could have been what you did? > No, that's not what I did. Ok. > > Additionally, does it work from the contextual menu? > What do you mean "contextual menu". The one you get by right > clicking? I just tried that now and Paste there works as > expected, it pastes in the Cc field. Useful observation for me. > Thanks. > George Yep, that one :-) At least you now have a second workaround. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Bug copying email address into new email?
On 2021-03-18 at 09:42 -0400, George Reeke wrote: > Milan, thanks for letting me know it's fixed, it is easy enough > to click the middle button instead (really a scroll wheel, that's > why I was avoiding it). As for "ancient", well, this is standard > on CentOS 7, which is supported until 2024 and is the version > currently supported by my university so I am staying with it. > George Is it happening consistently for you, though? This looks like a problem of the Cc field not getting selected (the body stayed selected, or got the selection after clicking Cc). Albeit using a newer version, I am unable to reproduce it as well. I found a similar case, though. If in the Edit menu instead of Paste you had selected the next entry, Paste Quotation, that will paste into the body even if the focus was in the headers. It somewhat makes sense, as you can't Paste Quotation into a header, but I feel that's a minor bug in that it shouldn't have been enabled. Maybe that could have been what you did? Additionally, does it work from the contextual menu? The edit menu should work nonetheless, but I don't think it's too efficient to click the field, then go to the Edit menu and choose Paste, when you could have done a right click and Paste instead (or Ctrl-V). Middle-click is a bit different, pasting the last selection at the clicked point, so it may not always be desirable. Regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Signature not appended
On 2021-03-19 at 08:25 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > I have a small script to invoke fortune, which I am attempting to use > to append a signature to my emails. > (...) > > However no signature is ever appended. Am I setting things up wrong, > or is this a bug? The signature script works by adding it when you open the composer (or when changing the signature). What happens when you open a new email? Does it work if in the composer window you choose your script in the Signature dropdown? You may need to set it as the default signature. Best ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Storing messages
On 2021-03-17 at 22:23 +0100, Tor Harald Thorland wrote: > It also seems like the export mbox is saving a folder or bunch of > mails, not visually like an own mail account which you will get when > opening / closing a pst. In evolution exporting a number of mails to a mbox file does exactly that: generate a file with those mails. If you want to view them as if it was an account, you need to configure that separatedly: File → New → Mail account, and in Receiving Email choose either "Standard Unix mbox spool file" or -probably more useful- "Standard Unix mbox spool directory". This way you can create a new account which loads a mbox you previously exported. Or, rather than going through that separate step, you could add the account first and then move the mails there. Regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Would this have side effects ?
On 2021-02-05 at 17:10 -0600, Anonymous Japhering wrote: > Mgmt is mandating that I interface with the corporate CRM software, > which if you are not using a browser for > email is a BCC to a specific email address. > > That means you either have to remember to add the BCC ( and remember > how you saved it) , or set it in the > composer options for every email. Neither option by itself is very > appealing as it means you either miss a > bunch of outbound emails or you cram a lot of CRAP into the CRM. I suspect their system is broken, but the management that came up with that solution is probably earning many times my salary. As I understand it, your CRM shall contain a copy of all messages sent *to* the clients, and so you are being asked to BCC an internal CRM address (e.g. c...@example.com). If you use a separate account to with the clients (e.g. sa...@example.com), then it's trivial to configure it to BCC a certain mailbox (option 'Always blind carbon-copy to'). This is the classic solution, where many people work from a common mailbox. However, in the system on your company, you are apparently using your 'normal' account both for interacting with clients and for other interactions that shouldn't go through the CRM (e.g. sharing kitten videos as attachments with your coworkers) This has the obvious drawback that your CRM will get the messages you send but not the ones you receive. You could use the same approach for this, by configuring two email accounts (only the sending part matters, you don't need to -and probably shouldn't- configure the inbox twice), one with the bcc mail and one without. However, this still requires you to choose the right sending account on the From field (and it will probably pick automatically the wrong account on 50% of replies, since both would have the same address configured). A similar approach would be to configure it to always bcc and manually remove it when unneeded (less typing, but needed on 80% of your emails). In order to automatically bcc c...@example.com on certain messages only (e.g. only those not to @example.com), the approach I would follow is to configure the account to send with sendmail, but with the option 'Use custom binary, instead of sendmail'. Then you point it to a script which evaluates the recipients (which is quite easy, as they are all individual parameters) and, depending whether all recipients match your whitelist or not, exec sendmail "$@" or sendmail "$@" c...@example.com Best regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] evolution fails to receive mail
On 2021-01-31 at 02:01 -0800, Gary Koskenmaki wrote: > I need some help in figuring out what has happened. I think > something has gotten corrupted but I've been all through > the /home/username/.config/evolution files I can find and read but > can't find anything relating to sending > authentication to a server. Use seahorse to browse the gnome-keyring where the passwords are stored ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Settings in $HOME/.cache/evolution
lOn 2021-01-30 at 18:28 +, Douglas Summers via evolution-list wrote: > I've been moving most of my app cache directories to /tmp (tmpfs) so that > they're cleaned on a reboot. This works great for Evolution...except for > the colors of the calendars, tasks, and memos (EWS connection). Can these > settings be moved to $HOME/.config/evolution instead? > > UPDATE: running Linux Mint v20.1, Evolution v3.36.4 Hello Douglas If those colors are kept in the cache, that seems a bug. Please open a bug in https://gitlab.gnome.org to keep track of it. Although, I should say it seems a bad idea to do that, as that will require re-downloading every session many emails that would otherwise be cached (unless perhaps if you pretty much almost never reboot). Best regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Replies not including all text
On 2021-01-24 at 18:29 -0600, Daffy Duck via evolution-list wrote: > Hello, > > Using Fedora 34 with evolution-3.38.3-1.fc33.x86_64 > > I have been having issues recently where when I hit reply to an > email, or I hit reply to a sent email to do a follow up/addition, it > does not include all of my quoted text. It only includes part of it. > > Is there a way to fix this? > > Thank you, Was some of the text selected? (it would only include the selection) Did the email contain the signature marker (a line containing just the string "-- ") ? evolution will trim the signature text. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Negative searches
On 2021-01-20 at 14:30 -0600, Anonymous Japhering wrote: > Evolution 3.38.4 (flatpak git5dcefb2) > > I'm currently being overrun by emails from on particular source, > which unfortunately I need to read every single > one.. > > I know I can set a rule to peel all of then off into a separate > folder, but that negates the value of using Imap as the > folder only exists in Evolution. Additionally, it loses me some of > the context of what came in with any particular email. I suspect moving them to a separate folder _would_ be the right approach, as that way you create a different flow, which can be processed separatedly. Or, if emails from that source (priority S) are mixed in a thread from other people which should be processed with normal priority, I would recommend using a virtual folder to hide this user mails. Anyway, if you want to do that as a folder search > So the question is ... can one do a negative search on an inbox? > Something like ! or -, > these two variants return a completely empty response ( even though > the inbox has about 10,000 emails of which currently > about 2,500 I'd like to exclude. …the answer is, obviously, yes. The standard way to do this would be to click on the magnifier glass, → Advanced Search → Add Condition → Sender → is not → If you want to define the rule directly as text, instead of Advanced select Free form expression and input "not:(from:)" Also note, you can create virtual folders, both for the search of emails from this soruce and not from this source. Regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evo asking for password AGAIN ( also replying to Angel)
On 2021-01-17 at 10:46 -0600, Christopher Marlow wrote: > (evolution:1590): e-data-server-ui-WARNING **: 10:40:33.428: > credentials_prompter_store_credentials_cb: Failed to store source > credentials: No such interface “org.freedesktop.Secret.Collection” on > object at path /org/freedesktop/secrets/collection/login > > > I am guessing that means seahorse or gnome keyring is not installed > and so it has no where to store the password? Yes. It doesn't have gnome-keyring (or another program offering the libsecret interface) for storing the password. Installing it should greatly help :-) (Albeit hopefully redundant, I would recommend a reboot afterwards, to ensure that if it is set to run on login by your distro configuration, it does indeed start) Best regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [Solved] Re: Strange sync behaviour
On 2021-01-16 at 18:44 +, Andy Proctor wrote: > Thanks to those replying. The problem of sync was not an evolution > problem at all. > > I tested with a manual transfer on a stick between the two devices > which showed that folders etc could be detected. > > It took a short while to evolution to scan the new changes which was > unexpected but I proved evolution isn't the problem. > > It turns out there it a default setting in megasync not to sync ".*" > files, which was why the folders and others were not syncing... > > Duh! Undocumented feature. I set mega to sync ".*" files and guess > what, all works. > > Thanks for the help all, this one is solved. > > Andy So obvious in retrospect. If the files weren't copied, evolution couldn't show them! :-D Thanks for sharing the solution, Andy. Best regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] XFS being remounted at Evo Startup
On 2021-01-16 at 06:37 -0600, Greg Oliver wrote: > > How are your mounts set up? > > Are you using some kind of autofs? > > Nothing unusual AFAIK. > > LABEL=ROOT / ext4defaults0 0 > LABEL=BOOT /boot ext4defaults1 2 > LABEL=EFI /boot/efi vfatumask=0077 0 2 > LABEL=HOME /home xfs defaults0 0 > LABEL=SWAP noneswapdefaults0 0 > > Filesystem Type Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on > devtmpfs devtmpfs 7.7G 0 7.7G 0% /dev > tmpfs tmpfs 7.8G 29M 7.7G 1% /dev/shm > tmpfs tmpfs 3.1G 1.9M 3.1G 1% /run > /dev/nvme0n1p3 ext4 39G 10G 27G 28% / > /dev/nvme0n1p2 ext4 976M 198M 711M 22% /boot > /dev/nvme0n1p1 vfat 511M 48M 464M 10% /boot/efi > /dev/nvme0n1p5 xfs 1.8T 548G 1.3T 31% /home > tmpfs tmpfs 7.8G 3.0M 7.8G 1% /tmp > tmpfs tmpfs 1.6G 148K 1.6G 1% /run/user/1000 > I just upgraded to the latest available and it does the same thing. This shows an ext4 on /, and a xfs filesystem on /home However, your dmesg messages: > [ 1357.401728] xfs filesystem being remounted at > /newroot/home/greg/.local/share/webkitgtk/databases supports timestamps until > 2038 (0x7fff) > [ 1357.402413] xfs filesystem being remounted at > /newroot/home/greg/.cache/fontconfig supports timestamps until 2038 > (0x7fff) > [ 1357.402680] xfs filesystem being remounted at > /newroot/home/greg/.cache/gstreamer-1.0 supports timestamps until 2038 > (0x7fff) mention /newroot/home/greg/… This doesn't match with the above fstab. What is /newroot ? ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] XFS being remounted at Evo Startup
On 2021-01-15 at 15:33 -0600, Greg Oliver wrote: > On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 3:26 PM Andre Klapper wrote: > > On Fri, 2021-01-15 at 15:17 -0600, Greg Oliver wrote: > > > Any ideas why this is happening all of the sudden? > > > > What does this have to do with Evolution? > > That's why I am asking - starting evolution causes it. How are your mounts set up? Are you using some kind of autofs? ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Emojis/icons in subject line
On 2021-01-15 at 18:45 +, Douglas Summers via evolution-list wrote: > OK, it's working now. I installed fonts-symbola, ttf-ancient-fonts- > symbola, fonts-opensymbol, and fonts-emojione. The only remaining > question is why did this work before? I've never had any of these > fonts installed. You had another font that provided a glyph for this character (one of the Noto fonts you removed, probably). ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Strange sync behaviour
On 2021-01-13 at 20:17 +, Andy Proctor wrote: > All the files appear in the right place on the desktop however when > opening Evolution on the desktop it does not pick up my mail folders. > I use subfolders of my inbox for mail filing. The actual subfolders > are present in the right directory, but the evolution install is not > picking them up. I have not currently set any external mail setting > on the desktop installation. > > Any reasons you can think of why it does not recognise the > subfolders. In addition mail appears in the inbox but the contents of > mails are unreadable. Is evolution (or a component, such as evolution-data-server) running when you overwrite it? In that case, I would expect it not to pick the subfolders, but to detect them the next time it is opened. Just to discard the obvious: the subfolders aren't collapsed, right? Best Ángel ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evo asking for password AGAIN
On 2021-01-10 at 13:49 -0600, Christopher Marlow wrote: > > On Sun, 2021-01-10 at 11:07 -0600, Christopher Marlow wrote: > > > I just tried editing that line in sudo nano > > > /etc/xdg/autostart/gnome- > > > keyring-*.desktop and evo is still asking me for the password on > > > start. > > > I was specific I wrote in the last email > > /etc/xdg/autostart/gnome- > keyring-*.desktop > > the line that says includes I added LxQT; to the file at the end of > the list. > > Yes I restarted. You would generally copy the file to ~/.config/autostart and edit the copy there. In fact, if you have that file in ~/.config/autostart, it will be used instead of the copy at /etc/xdg/autostart, and your edit ignored. Best regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] OpenPGP key ID for alias email address(es)
On 2020-12-31 at 16:53 +0100, Ettore Atalan via evolution-list wrote: > Hi, > > I have an e-mail account with several alias email addresses. I have > separate PGP keys for both the main email address of the email > account and the alias email addresses. > > For the main email address, I was able to add the OpenPGP key ID in > Security in the account editor of Evolution 3.36.4-0ubuntu1. For my > alias email addresses, I haven't found a way to enter the respective > OpenPGP key ID. How does this work in Evolution? > > Regards, > > Ettore Atalan How do you have evolution configured to use those alias? What do you do to send from them? Best regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Setting up PGP
On 2020-12-30 at 20:21 -0500, Paul B. via evolution-list wrote: > Hello, > I'm new to Evolution, and I am liking its simplicity and power. The > one thing I'm stuck on for hours now is setting up PGP end to end > encryption. > > I exported my key from vivaldi.net, which I had working in > Thunderbird. Then I imported it to Linux. The linux key utility > Seahorse is broken, however, and doesn't show the new key. So I > switched to the command line and imported the key and gave it > Ultimate trust. Good. evolution simply uses gpg on the backend, so if it works on command line, it should work on evolution. > But the key ID is, I am told, the last 8 digits of the key > fingerprint, and using that in Evolution does not work. I've also > tried the entire key name, my email name and address, to no avail. You can also try providing the full fingerprint, not only just the key ID. > This is probably simple, but I'm missing it. Any help would be > appreciated. > > Thanks, > Paul It probably is. The hard part will be to determine it. Can you provide the exact error message you get? What happens if you try to use it from command line? Best regards and Happy 2021 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] OneNote memos (Sticky Notes) not formatting correctly
On 2020-12-20 at 22:36 +0100, Andre Klapper via evolution-list wrote: > On Sun, 2020-12-20 at 20:18 +, Douglas Summers wrote: > > I'm having a minor issue with the format of Outlook's OneNote > > Sticky Notes. When I create a memo in Evolution, the formatting > > holds when it syncs with my Outlook account. There really isn't > > much available to format - only carriage returns/line feeds - so my > > notes look very plain (which is fine; all of the > > bold/underline/bullets are just extras to me). However, when I make > > any changes from the Sticky Notes app or from their website, all > > previous CRs/LFs disappear and the notes become a long run-on > > sentence. > > Sounds like something to bring up in OneNote support forums? I could > vaguely imagine lack of support of some line break types: > https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1552749/difference-between-cr-lf-lf-and-cr-line-break-types Does OneNote app show the note properly on view and edit (thus the problem only appears on saving)? Or do already disappear when viewing them? If the latter, they might argue that notes must use CRLF (not just by being Microsoft, that's what internet standards generally use), and OneNote app not supporting anything else. But if it is shown properly, that's clearly an editing issue. As you mention formatting, I wonder if it is taking a plain note and then treating it as html, losing newlines through the way. Best regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] "Cannot get message", why?
On 2020-11-20 at 08:52 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Thu, 2020-11-19 at 09:23 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list > wrote: > > Eventually, could you disable the message preview (Ctrl+M), then > > send > > me one of the affected messages as an attachment, thus I can try it > > here, please? I've a hard time to find the message in an mbox > > format. > > Hi, > thanks for the example message (received in a private mail). > Unfortunately, I am able to view it, it opens with no problem here, > saying "This message is signed, but the public key is not in your > keyring" at the top, under which is the message itself. This is with > the development version of Evolution (to be 3.39.1). > > I do not have 3.30.5 installed anywhere, the oldest I've found is > 3.32.5, which can show the message properly too, under (obsolete) > Fedora 30 distribution. I tried also with 3.28.5 in RHEL 8 and it can > view the message with no problem, thus I guess there's something with > gpg on your machine. Having the backtrace would help (and can correct > me). Eventually/also run Evolution from a terminal like this: > I have tried on 3.30.5 and had no issues (or perhaps I picked a lucky mail?) I suspect evolution is launching gpg and awaiting for gpg to return the result. Maybe gpg is trying to automatically fetch the key from the keyservers and hanging at that point? ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution version 3.30.5-1.1 crashing & logging me out of Debian 10.5
On 2020-11-30 at 22:17 -0700, Dennis Taylor wrote: > Hi. > Evolution has recently started crashing and at the same time logging > me out of Debian 10.5. The 2 events always happen together when this > takes place. I can't find a pattern for when this will happen other > then the fact that Evolution is the only linux application running > when this happens. Sometimes I'm simply in the middle of composing or > editing an e-mail and then Evolution crashes and I've been logged out > of the Debian OS. I'd love to know if anyone else has experienced > this and the recommended solution because the nature of this problem > seems to be unpredictable. Thanks! Hello Dennis Your description makes me think that rather than evolution, the crashing program may actually be xorg (the X server). When the X server crashes, all graphical applications will close as well, including evolution and your desktop. It would then respawn and let you log in again, thus the conclusion that you have been logged-out. I don't know why your xorg would be crashing (a faulty update? issues with the hardware/drivers?). You should be able to find on dmesg some lines pointing to the program that failed. Best regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] how insert a .gif into a mail
On 2020-11-13 at 19:12 +0100, mario chiari wrote: > Hi, > > most likely this is silly, but I am not able to insert a .gif into a > mail. > What am i missing/ > thanks cheers > mario Hello Mario 1. Ensure you are composing the message in HTML 2. On the menu named "Insert", select the option "Image..." 3. Choose the image of your choice (gif, jpeg, png...) The result will be embedded in the email, like this: Evolution icon by GNOME Project, under license http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/ and available at https://github.com/gnome-design-team/gnome-icons/ (I just converted it from png to gif) Best regards PS: Use of html email on this list is generally discouraged, but I think this is one of those cases where it actually provides additional value. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Email look ups ..
On 2020-11-05 at 10:27 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > Hi, > there are done things asynchronously, thus they might not necessarily > be shown in the backtrace, but could you try to get it once Evolution > is waiting for the response, please? Err, you use the Flatpak > version, > it's significantly harder to get the backtrace there. Never mind > then, > who knows whether it would show anything. > Bye, > Milan gdb is too low-level IMHO for this. Opening a sniffer like wireshark should let you view the checks that are being done and if there is a request with no reply. Even if it's a https one. Assuming there's practically no other network traffic when you check this. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Migrating from Thunderbird via import without duplicates
On 2020-10-27 at 17:29 +0100, Milan Crha wrote: > On Wed, 2020-10-28 at 00:31 +0900, christopher wrote: > > Are there details on this process (warnings heeded) anywhere? > > No, there are not, because nobody did it yet and should not do that. > > I can think of only a single workaround: > (...) Maybe he could set up an IMAP server on localhost pointing to that local copy, configure evolution to use that server, copying it to the local cache (thus transferring the 100 GB on localhost interface), then change the server configuration to the real server. I would expect the folders.db to have important(?) differences (for instance the message UIDs would all be different), but seems like it should be slightly more compatible. Any opinion on that? Best regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Where to store local accounts?
On 2020-10-14 at 07:53 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > > The question is, which would have been the "proper place" to locate > > such folder? > > Definitely not private evolution directories. My question would be: > what do you want to achieve? I mean, do you want to have the mails > backed up with Evolution's backup tool together with the other data? > In > that case store it somewhere under ~/.local/share/evolution/. > Obviously > not under the 'mail' and other directories, just use your own > directory > under the "top" directory. Like ~/.local/share/evolution/my-mail. > That's only a workaround, as you might usually store your local mails > under On This Computer. The custom Maildir accounts are used (from my > point of view) to access messages from other services, where those > services are responsible for the data backup and so on. > > Bye, > Milan Thanks for the tip, Milan. Yes, the goal was to "group" the new account with evolution, as a second "On This COmputer" if you wish. The normal "On This Computer" was already being used (mostly as an account for archiving mails, mainly duplicating the folder tree of the main account living on the server) whereas the new account serves a different function (holding a subtree of mailing list related folders) and would benefit of a different position. In some aspects, it would be preferable if you could (virtually) include in the tree view folders stored on a different account. That could be a complex use case to present on a consistent UI, though (not to mention the implementation itself) . Regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Where to store local accounts?
Hello all Today I have an adventure to share about creating external accounts. I wanted to file certain mails in a (different) local account. To this end, I added a new maildir account. Given that it needs to point to an existing folder, I decided to create it as a subfolder of ~/.local/share/evolution/mail, which turned out to be an error. evolution-data-server then moved that folder to ~/.local/share/evolution/ mail/trash/ on next restart (then failed to find the new account). Yes, it is a private evolution folder. The user is not supposed to tweak with it. Still, I was a bit puzzled by the behavior. I could have stored that maildir on ~/Documents or ~/Desktop but I precisely wanted it to live within the other evolution folders. As a sibling of local/ (the store for the 'On This Computer' account) seemed the perfect place (the folder name itself would not conflict with or protocol). Diving into this, it seems that there is a cache-reaper getting rid of unexpected cache and data dirs. I guess I could achieve the original goal by moving the maildir inside its source folder (a catch-22, since the maildir needs to exist before creating the source it can only be done later). The question is, which would have been the "proper place" to locate such folder? ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Localization of IMAP folders
On 2020-10-11 at 16:41 +0200, Markus Loechner wrote: > And this makes sense from my point of view, since you can rename any > user-created folder on the server, but not the server-defined default > ones, that have to assure interoperability between different > interfaces. It's actually up to the server to allow you to do that or not. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mail merge?
On 2020-10-11 at 13:58 +1300, gnome via evolution-list wrote: > It's also quite easy to accidentally put every one in "cc" or "to" > fields instead of BCC, and accidentally give every one each others > email addresses - for me that would be a major failing, and under my > country's privacy laws could actually get me fined, even as a private > person. evolution will warn you when you address too many people visibly (it can be disabled). It's still unsettling to send these large mailings, the more people it is being sent, the more cautious one must be. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to archive to year-named subfolder of archive folder?
On 2020-09-22 at 20:21 -0500, J.B. Nicholson wrote: > Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > > out of interest, does it match the current year (aka the year the > > Archive operation was initiated in), or a year from the Date > > header, > > +/- converted to the local time zone? It would be weird to have > > archived message from 2015 in folder 2020, only because the Archive > > function was initiated in year 2020. > > Yes; you're quite right on both counts. In fact, Thunderbird (version > 68.12.0 > (64-bit) at least where I just tested this) does the latter. Here's > how I tested > that: I pressed "a" (Archive shortcut key) on a message sent in the > year 2009 (per > its Date header) from the 2009 archive folder and that message stayed > in the 2009 > archive folder. I moved that message to my 2020 archive folder, went > to the 2020 > archive folder, and pressed "a" on it again. The message moved back > to the 2009 folder. I think such feature would require an Archive folder supporting placeholders. Someone might want to use "Old-%Y", other "Archive/%Y", some "Archive/%m-%Y" yet other "Archive/%Y-%m" . As such, allowing a modifier so that it refers to the current or the Received:/Date: timestamp, seems a little adjustment. Best regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] evolution | RFE: improved options for image handling (#581)
On 2020-09-14 at 20:12 +0200, Herr Oswald wrote: > > Hi, > > it seems to me you've missing some of the evolution-data-server > > development files, specifically for libebook-1.2. > > The packages: > > evolution-data-server-dev and > libebook-1.2 > > are available. The result is the same... ): > > W Install libebook1.2-dev Regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] stuck with ubuntu20
On 2020-09-14 at 16:41 +0200, Herr Oswald wrote: > Hello, > > thanks to everybody, esp. Max. In fact, I noticed that there no > longer > was a prompt to unlock the keyring. I disabled auto-login and voilà - > evo is back at service. > > I'll see how I get along with auto-login next days. > At the moment I have my evo back, which really is important to me! > > Cheers, > Wolf That explains it. When you autologin your keyring [named 'login'] was not being unlocked automatically, so your keys were not available. (It seems a bug that when evolution tried to use it it didn't ask you to unlock it, imho). With auto-login enabled, you can probably open seahorse and manually unlock the keyring before launching evolution. This still doesn't ley evolution open automatically, but it's a step. You might want to change the keyring password to the empty string. Maybe that way it is possble to use its contents without providing a password. Oh, and obviously, make a copy of the keyring before start changing configurations. You may end up with a locked keyring that you are unable to unlock. Regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [OT] Evolution setup
On 2020-08-20 at 22:24 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2020-08-20 at 21:40 +0200, Ángel wrote: > > > you can easily browse through previous topics that might answer your > > > question, and so on. > > > > > > And do people really do that? It also depends on what is considered > > > > "easily", too. > > I use the Search function to find old posts that I remember dealing > with some issue. I was referring to new users coming to a new community. You would hardly count as newcomer ;) > > The "mailing lists are hard to browse" would probably be solved with > > mailman3's hyperkitty, which gives a forum-feel to the archives. > > I don't like that it tries to add things like "voting", though, as that > > escapes the role of a mailing list. > > Having seen HyperKitty deployed for the Fedora mailing lists, I dislike > it for a number of reasons, the main one being that almost no-one > remembers to quote context when replying. So that leads to the opposite way: people using a mailing list from a forum-like interface, and using that as a forum... not quoting previous mails. > It may be possible to unify lists and web forums under one interface, but HK > isn't it. :( If we end up having conflicts on the expectations on how people use a mailing list vs how they use a forum, I'm afraid it may not be possible at all. Regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution Editor needs serious attention
On 2020-08-19 at 10:58 +, Van Stokes, Jr. wrote:
> Andre,
>
>
> I was warned when I was forwarded the email address for evolution
> support to not expect a very welcoming response. And they were right.
> Your response is absolutely pitiful and just cements the poor
> reputation the team has in the community. All you succeeded in doing
> was creating another soldier that will add fire to the rumor.
> You failed to comprehend that the email is from an END USER (aka
> CUSTOMER) trying to explain their frustration with the product.
> Instead of just asking for more details by guiding the END USER to get
> the information you require, you elected to personally insult them and
> condemn them for reaching out. You took the email personally as if it
> was an attack against you - which it wasn't.
I don't think Andre was making an attack against you. But apparently you
think so (maybe conditioned by expecting a cold response?).
>
>
> But I obviously struck a nerve because you did take it personally. You
> are already aware that the editor is a disaster. Should you, or your
> team, not be aware of the items I highlighted in my original email
> then you don't use the application on regular basis. We (~100 people)
> do use it daily. But some have grown so frustrated with the editor
> that they now opt to use OWA (Outlook Web - office365) instead. A web
> application that is far more accurate and reliable.
>
>
> So, I need to provide clear steps to you one on how to PASTE into the
> editor? Adding a SIGNATURE to a reply with a body? Seriously?
> I would think you would want to know more about my configuration, my
> settings, etc.
People on this mailing list do use it on a daily basis. And it (mostly)
works for them without issues.
So, if all those 100 people have the same problem (I'd guess it is only
failing so much for _some_ of them, though), perhaps there's some common
point between all those users that make it fail on the exact version of
evolution you are using there (which you didn't even mention, our
psychic skills don't go so far). A particular piece of html signature,
perhaps, as that would be a piece common to all people on the same
company but affecting external users.
I agree that UNDO sometimes doesn't work properly. However, when I paste
some text I don't think it ever placed it somewhere else than the place
the cursor was at. Similarly, no problem inserting signatures. Are you
perhaps using the signature delimiter ("-- ", see RFC 3676) in the
middle of your body text? That might confuse evolution, as it would
think that everything below that signature marker is a signature, which
it would then replace with the new signature (or no signature at all if
changing to that).
>
> I suggest you work on your customer relationship skills. In the
> meantime, we will begin to migrate away from Evolution. Thank you for
> helping us finalize our company's future email path.
This "team" will happily reimburse you of any fees it received from your
company for handling you as a customer.
Even though, as you were already told, you came asking for a better
editor and there is a newer editor that will be released next month (you
could try the new version prior to release if you wanted).
This is probably the best answer you could have dreamed of for "Please
dedicate some time and resources to addressing or replacing the editor."
Regards
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Re: [Evolution] [OT] Evolution setup
On 2020-08-18 at 17:57 +0100, rogercreagh wrote: > the beauty of a forum is that it puts you the user in control of what > you see and when you see it. > You can ignore threads, A good email client would allow you to do that. (wait, where's that feature in evolution?) > or whole categories/sub-forums that don't interest you, mailman does support multiple categories. Although I don't think I have ever seen that in use. > you can be notified when there is something for you in particular, You could set a filter to "notify" you when whatever conditions arise. I agree the forum presets are generally better, since few people would set that up, though. > you can go away for a month and easily catch up when you get back, You can go away for a month, and read the pending list mail when you get back (or not). You might not be keen on replying to an old mail a month later, but it's the same issue as replying to an old forum thread. > you can easily browse through previous topics that might answer your > question, and so on. And do people really do that? It also depends on what is considered "easily", too. > Oh yes, and if you are a diehard non-web person you can even have all > posts delivered to your inbox as email and continue to drink from the > firehose. It depends a lot on communities. Some communities are forum-fans, while other are fans or mailing lists. There are some communities which died after moving from a mailing list format to a forum (while others didn't). In general, I would be very wary of changing the status-quo. You do have some good points, though. The "mailing lists are hard to browse" would probably be solved with mailman3's hyperkitty, which gives a forum-feel to the archives. I don't like that it tries to add things like "voting", though, as that escapes the role of a mailing list. Regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
