Re: [Evolution] Replying to email inserting previous reply

[Milan Crha]

On Thu, 2016-09-22 at 11:22 -0500, Greg Oliver wrote:
> Hmmm, is that going to require a full gnome upgrade to rawhide, or
> just webkit?  I may go back to F23 until F25 - this is really
> frustrating :)

Hi,
the evolution depends on the same version of the evolution-data-server, 
which is a dependency for other (not only) GNOME core programs and
services, including GNOME Shell, thus unfortunately yes, an update of
the evolution brings in the evolution-data-server and a significant
part of the GNOME as dependencies. I'd suggest to try (as you
mentioned) Fedora 25 (or another distribution with evolution 3.22.0 or
newer) in a virtual machine, where you'd be able to test whether it's
really fixed before upgrading your system.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Replying to email inserting previous reply

[Greg Oliver]

On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 2:10 AM, Milan Crha  wrote:

> On Wed, 2016-09-21 at 12:04 -0500, Greg Oliver wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 12:00 PM, Greg Oliver 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Next email in thread, I hit reply all - Evolution is adding the
> > > reply I just sent in the previous email above everything (not
> > > quoted like my reply style is set to) as a reply to this new reply
> > > automatically.
>
> Hi,
> I think what you face is a problem with quotation of HTML messages,
> where the HTML part could sometimes be mispositioned. This is addressed
> in 3.22.0+, as part of the switch to WebKit2.
>
> > Oh yes, and one weird thing I neglected to mention is that when
> > evolution does this, and I close the email, it does not prompt to
> > discard or save as usual when closing a partially composed email.  It
> > just happily closes like a blank email with no typing in it so far.
>
> It asks for "discard changes" only if anything changed by the user. The
> prefill of the message on forward/reply doesn't qualify as user's
> change. Imagine you accidentally press Ctrl+R, then you can just press
> Escape and the composer will happily close, because nothing changed,
> instead of forcing you to do one more action after the accidental key
> press.
> Bye,
> Milan
>

Hmmm, is that going to require a full gnome upgrade to rawhide, or just
webkit?  I may go back to F23 until F25 - this is really frustrating :)
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Re: [Evolution] Replying to email inserting previous reply

[Milan Crha]

On Wed, 2016-09-21 at 12:04 -0500, Greg Oliver wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 12:00 PM, Greg Oliver 
> wrote:
> > 
> > Next email in thread, I hit reply all - Evolution is adding the
> > reply I just sent in the previous email above everything (not
> > quoted like my reply style is set to) as a reply to this new reply
> > automatically.

Hi,
I think what you face is a problem with quotation of HTML messages,
where the HTML part could sometimes be mispositioned. This is addressed
in 3.22.0+, as part of the switch to WebKit2.

> Oh yes, and one weird thing I neglected to mention is that when
> evolution does this, and I close the email, it does not prompt to
> discard or save as usual when closing a partially composed email.  It
> just happily closes like a blank email with no typing in it so far.

It asks for "discard changes" only if anything changed by the user. The
prefill of the message on forward/reply doesn't qualify as user's
change. Imagine you accidentally press Ctrl+R, then you can just press
Escape and the composer will happily close, because nothing changed,
instead of forcing you to do one more action after the accidental key
press.
Bye,
Milan
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Re: [Evolution] Replying to email inserting previous reply

[Greg Oliver]

On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 12:00 PM, Greg Oliver  wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 3:13 AM, Pete Biggs  wrote:
>
>>
>> > Something I have never encountered with evolution throughout the past
>> > 10+ years of using it is happening to me.  When replying to an email,
>> > Evolution is putting the previous email reply (same thread email)
>> > into the composing window on top.
>>
>> Edit -> Preferences -> Composer Preferences -> General Tab
>>
>> Make sure the "Start typing at bottom" and "Keep signature above
>> original message" are unticked - or at least set to what you want them
>> to be. And make sure the "Reply style" is what you need.
>>
>> P.
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> Thanks Pete,
>
> Those options are all set the way I like (and have been for years).  I
> might have not explained correctly.
>
> I will reply to an email (and it is only emails that are 100% base64
> encoded due to damn graphic happy ass people's signatures being so large).
> I reply above (as most corp people do).  Email sent...
>
> Next email in thread, I hit reply all - Evolution is adding the reply I
> just sent in the previous email above everything (not quoted like my reply
> style is set to) as a reply to this new reply automatically.
>
> I will include a picture if it helps..
>
> I did not type what is in the red box above my signature...
>
>
> Oh yes, and one weird thing I neglected to mention is that when evolution
does this, and I close the email, it does not prompt to discard or save as
usual when closing a partially composed email.  It just happily closes like
a blank email with no typing in it so far.
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Re: [Evolution] Replying to email inserting previous reply

[Greg Oliver]

On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 3:13 AM, Pete Biggs  wrote:

>
> > Something I have never encountered with evolution throughout the past
> > 10+ years of using it is happening to me.  When replying to an email,
> > Evolution is putting the previous email reply (same thread email)
> > into the composing window on top.
>
> Edit -> Preferences -> Composer Preferences -> General Tab
>
> Make sure the "Start typing at bottom" and "Keep signature above
> original message" are unticked - or at least set to what you want them
> to be. And make sure the "Reply style" is what you need.
>
> P.
>
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Thanks Pete,

Those options are all set the way I like (and have been for years).  I
might have not explained correctly.

I will reply to an email (and it is only emails that are 100% base64
encoded due to damn graphic happy ass people's signatures being so large).
I reply above (as most corp people do).  Email sent...

Next email in thread, I hit reply all - Evolution is adding the reply I
just sent in the previous email above everything (not quoted like my reply
style is set to) as a reply to this new reply automatically.

I will include a picture if it helps..

I did not type what is in the red box above my signature...
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Re: [Evolution] Replying to email inserting previous reply

[Pete Biggs]

> Something I have never encountered with evolution throughout the past
> 10+ years of using it is happening to me.  When replying to an email,
> Evolution is putting the previous email reply (same thread email)
> into the composing window on top.

Edit -> Preferences -> Composer Preferences -> General Tab 

Make sure the "Start typing at bottom" and "Keep signature above
original message" are unticked - or at least set to what you want them
to be. And make sure the "Reply style" is what you need.

P.

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[Evolution] Replying to email inserting previous reply

[Greg Oliver]

Hi, I am using (Fedora versions)

evolution-data-server-3.20.5-3.fc24.x86_64
evolution-ews-3.20.5-1.fc24.x86_64
evolution-3.20.5-1.fc24.x86_64

Something I have never encountered with evolution throughout the past 10+
years of using it is happening to me.  When replying to an email, Evolution
is putting the previous email reply (same thread email) into the composing
window on top.  Now the only thing I can determine that is a tad different
from other emails is that due to excessive signatures from this company,
Exchange is 100% encoding the message base64.  Not sure what to make of
this, so just wondering if anyone has seen it and if they know how to stop
it.

I have enabled CAMEL_DEBUG and restarted evolution, but none of the output
stands out to me as far as throwing a previous reply into the message body
(also, it is a reply not even found in the original message I am replying
to.  Itr is very bizarre behavior.

TIA!

Thanks

-Greg
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