Re: [Evolution] Built-in spam filtering?

2003-01-04 Thread guenther
cheers(); > > > Great idea, but according to the Kmail handbook (Kmail does have > > > filtering on the server), you still have to download the headers in > > > order for the filters to work. So any message that you keep for download > > > is effectively downloaded twice - first to get the headers

Re: [Evolution] Built-in spam filtering?

2003-01-04 Thread Bill Hartwell
On Sat, 2003-01-04 at 15:14, guenther wrote: > cheers(); > > > Great idea, but according to the Kmail handbook (Kmail does have > > filtering on the server), you still have to download the headers in > > order for the filters to work. So any message that you keep for download > > is effectively do

Re: [Evolution] Built-in spam filtering?

2003-01-04 Thread guenther
cheers(); > Great idea, but according to the Kmail handbook (Kmail does have > filtering on the server), you still have to download the headers in > order for the filters to work. So any message that you keep for download > is effectively downloaded twice - first to get the headers for the > filte

Re: [Evolution] Built-in spam filtering?

2003-01-04 Thread Bill Hartwell
On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 15:42, Not Zed wrote: > Its been suggested before ... > > You could just use an external app, and link it in the same way the > spamassasin stuff is normally linked in. > > I still think doing it at the server end is the way to go though, > otherwise you have to waste time d

Re: [Evolution] Built-in spam filtering? (Spam grading is better)

2003-01-04 Thread Mika Liljeberg
On Fri, 2003-01-03 at 04:46, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: > Ximian is considering implementing a bayesian spam filter within > Evolution itself. Management is pushing for it to be implemented for > Evolution 1.4 but I seriously doubt Michael and I will have the time to > do it in so short an amount of t

Re: [Evolution] Built-in spam filtering?

2003-01-02 Thread Dan Nguyen
On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 12:12:00PM -0500, Jim Frost wrote: > Anyway, in case this spurs someone to do some work, I did spend some > time working on an imap server based bayesian system. The idea was that > with imap the folders are all on the server and I can easily create a > special "spam" folde

Re: [Evolution] Built-in spam filtering?

2003-01-02 Thread Mike Leone
Jim Frost ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) had this to say on 01/02/03 at 19:07: > Of course I did. It has about a 90% success rate and more than a 1% > false positive rate and requires me to diligently keep up the rule > base. Now, 90% success would be great, but 1% false is a killer. That > means I'll se

Re: [Evolution] Built-in spam filtering? (Spam grading is better)

2003-01-02 Thread Jeffrey Stedfast
On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 21:56, Jim Frost wrote: > On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 21:46, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: > > just to get this thread to stop, since it's going no where... > > > > Ximian is considering implementing a bayesian spam filter within > > Evolution itself. Management is pushing for it to be i

Re: [Evolution] Built-in spam filtering? (Spam grading is better)

2003-01-02 Thread Jim Frost
On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 21:46, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: > just to get this thread to stop, since it's going no where... > > Ximian is considering implementing a bayesian spam filter within > Evolution itself. Management is pushing for it to be implemented for > Evolution 1.4 but I seriously doubt Mic

Re: [Evolution] Built-in spam filtering? (Spam grading is better)

2003-01-02 Thread Jeffrey Stedfast
just to get this thread to stop, since it's going no where... Ximian is considering implementing a bayesian spam filter within Evolution itself. Management is pushing for it to be implemented for Evolution 1.4 but I seriously doubt Michael and I will have the time to do it in so short an amount of

Re: [Evolution] Built-in spam filtering?

2003-01-02 Thread Jim Frost
On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 20:36, Brett Johnson wrote: > On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 16:46, Jim Frost wrote: > > On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 18:13, guenther wrote: > > > If you don't control the server, get your own. ;) > > > > I do have my own for personal use. Cannot have my own for corporate > > use, don't hav

Re: [Evolution] Built-in spam filtering? (Spam grading is better)

2003-01-02 Thread Jim Frost
On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 18:48, Arthur Britto wrote: > On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 09:12, Jim Frost wrote: > > I note that I looked into spamassassin, which seems to be the preferred > > technique using an external filter, and I really dislike its rule-based > > system. Way too many false positives, and a

Re: [Evolution] Built-in spam filtering?

2003-01-02 Thread Brett Johnson
On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 16:46, Jim Frost wrote: > On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 18:13, guenther wrote: > > If you don't control the server, get your own. ;) > > I do have my own for personal use. Cannot have my own for corporate > use, don't have the choice. What, is there a corporate policy preventing yo

Re: [Evolution] Built-in spam filtering? (Spam grading is better)

2003-01-02 Thread Arthur Britto
On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 09:12, Jim Frost wrote: > I note that I looked into spamassassin, which seems to be the preferred > technique using an external filter, and I really dislike its rule-based > system. Way too many false positives, and a lot of work to set up and > maintain too. Spam filtering

Re: [Evolution] Built-in spam filtering?

2003-01-02 Thread Jim Frost
On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 18:13, guenther wrote: > If you don't control the server, get your own. ;) I do have my own for personal use. Cannot have my own for corporate use, don't have the choice. > I know, you mentioned spamassassin, but have you really > considered it? Of course I did. It has ab

Re: [Evolution] Built-in spam filtering?

2003-01-02 Thread guenther
cheers(); > > Its been suggested before ... > > > > You could just use an external app, and link it in the same way the > > spamassasin stuff is normally linked in. > > > > I still think doing it at the server end is the way to go though, > > otherwise you have to waste time downloading the mess

Re: [Evolution] Built-in spam filtering?

2003-01-02 Thread Jim Frost
On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 17:42, Not Zed wrote: > Its been suggested before ... > > You could just use an external app, and link it in the same way the > spamassasin stuff is normally linked in. > > I still think doing it at the server end is the way to go though, > otherwise you have to waste time d

Re: [Evolution] Built-in spam filtering?

2003-01-02 Thread Not Zed
Its been suggested before ... You could just use an external app, and link it in the same way the spamassasin stuff is normally linked in. I still think doing it at the server end is the way to go though, otherwise you have to waste time downloading the message anyway. On Fri, 2003-01-03 at 03: