[ewg] Re: [ofa-general] Agenda for OFED meeting today

2007-07-17 Thread Or Gerlitz
Tziporet Koren wrote: 2. Agree on OFED 1.3 schedule: * Feature freeze - Sep 4 Must have general features: * QoS: OSM, CM, CMA, ULPs (IPoIB, SDP, SRP) Tziporet, As was stated by Moni in the meetings, we want the QoS implementation to first pass review on

Re: [ewg] Re: [ofa-general] Agenda for OFED meeting today

2007-07-17 Thread Tziporet Koren
Or Gerlitz wrote: * QoS: OSM, CM, CMA, ULPs (IPoIB, SDP, SRP) Must have general features: Tziporet, As was stated by Moni in the meetings, we want the QoS implementation to first pass review on the general list (aka ofa) and be accepted to upstream merge before it

[ewg] RE: RFC OFED-1.3 installation

2007-07-17 Thread Vladimir Sokolovsky
[ snip ] Let me copy and paste an email conversation I had with Or that highlights why this is broken: --- Begin cut-n-paste On Mon, 2007-07-02 at 22:25 +0300, Or Gerlitz wrote: [sorry for breaking the thread, I am working from home now and unable to use normal mailer.] Let me

[ewg] Re: RFC OFED-1.3 installation

2007-07-17 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
Quoting Doug Ledford [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Subject: Re: RFC OFED-1.3 installation On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 19:27 +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: Quoting Doug Ledford [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Subject: Re: RFC OFED-1.3 installation On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 18:25 +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:

Re: [ewg] Re: RFC OFED-1.3 installation

2007-07-17 Thread Jeff Squyres
On Jul 17, 2007, at 1:06 PM, Doug Ledford wrote: Look, rpms are just like versioned tarballs. Once they go out in the wild, that particular name-version-release combination is FROZEN. It NEVER changes. I think that these 3 statements sum up the whole argument. I find it hard to disagree

[ewg] Re: RFC OFED-1.3 installation

2007-07-17 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
Quoting Doug Ledford [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Subject: Re: RFC OFED-1.3 installation On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 19:45 +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: Quoting Doug Ledford [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Subject: Re: RFC OFED-1.3 installation On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 19:27 +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:

[ewg] Re: RFC OFED-1.3 installation

2007-07-17 Thread Doug Ledford
On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 20:12 +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: Look, rpms are just like versioned tarballs. Once they go out in the wild, that particular name-version-release combination is FROZEN. It really looks like this is a work around for when you want to apply a patch without going

[ewg] Re: RFC OFED-1.3 installation

2007-07-17 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
There are lots of things that we as a distributor have to care about that upstream generally does not. The spec file and patches are how we solve our customer's problems. They are what make a stable distribution, as opposed to a bleeding edge, must always update to latest upstream version

[ewg] Re: [ofa-general] Re: RFC OFED-1.3 installation

2007-07-17 Thread Roland Dreier
It seems to me that this is all stemming from the same old fundamental confusion between a release and a distribution. I think everyone would be better served by a process where individual maintainers were responsible for releasing tarballs of their packages, with schedules coordinated toward an

[ewg] RE: RFC OFED-1.3 installation

2007-07-17 Thread Doug Ledford
On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 18:36 +0300, Vladimir Sokolovsky wrote: [ snip ] Let me copy and paste an email conversation I had with Or that highlights why this is broken: --- Begin cut-n-paste On Mon, 2007-07-02 at 22:25 +0300, Or Gerlitz wrote: [sorry for breaking the thread, I am

[ewg] RE: [ofa-general] Re: RFC OFED-1.3 installation

2007-07-17 Thread Sean Hefty
I think everyone would be better served by a process where individual maintainers were responsible for releasing tarballs of their packages, with schedules coordinated toward an overall openfabrics release For what it's worth, I agree with this approach. - Sean

Re: [ewg] Re: [ofa-general] Agenda for OFED meeting today

2007-07-17 Thread Tziporet Koren
Sean Hefty wrote: I do have a task item to add QoS to the kernel stack as part of my PathForward work. I believe that we need a discussion on the list regarding the best approach before starting work on this, however, because of IBTA rules, I haven't started the discussion. I understand

[ewg] Re: RFC OFED-1.3 installation

2007-07-17 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
So you need to be able to tell the difference between a customer running libibverbs-1.0.4 from OFED-1.3-beta1 and libibverbs-1.0.4 from OFED-1.3 final. I don't really think we want customers to run beta code, or intend to support such configurations. -- MST

[ewg] RE: [ofa-general] Re: RFC OFED-1.3 installation

2007-07-17 Thread Scott Weitzenkamp \(sweitzen\)
So you need to be able to tell the difference between a customer running libibverbs-1.0.4 from OFED-1.3-beta1 and libibverbs-1.0.4 from OFED-1.3 final. I don't really think we want customers to run beta code, or intend to support such configurations. But we still need to tell the

[ewg] RE: [ofa-general] Re: RFC OFED-1.3 installation

2007-07-17 Thread Scott Weitzenkamp \(sweitzen\)
I don't really think we want customers to run beta code What's the point of a beta then?? Donnu. In previous OFED releases, we had release candidates rather than beta. Openfabrics members were running RCs and reporting issues on the list and in bugzilla. Do you really ask your

Re: [ewg] Agenda for OFED meeting today

2007-07-17 Thread Hal Rosenstock
Hi Tziporet, On 7/16/07, Tziporet Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, We have our OFED synch meeting today at 9am PST. Agenda: 1. Merge the OFED 1.2.1 release with OFED 1.2.c release in August. 2. Agree on OFED 1.3 schedule: * Feature freeze - Sep 4 * Alpha release - Sep

[ewg] Re: [ofa-general] Re: RFC OFED-1.3 installation

2007-07-17 Thread Roland Dreier
I think it's easy enough to make the revision of the RPMS be something like -0.1.2007-07-17.1 or something like that. OK, so you say just ignore the content and stick a date in there? Fine, that'll work, and we can cover the RCs this way too I think. I just meant to add a revision

Re: [ewg] OFED July 16 meeting summary

2007-07-17 Thread Hal Rosenstock
Hi Tziporet, On 7/17/07, Tziporet Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *OFED July 16 meeting summary* *1. Merge the OFED 1.2.1 release with OFED 1.2.c release in August. * There was a long discussion on pros cons regarding merging the two releases. Pros: - Everybody will be focused on the same

[ewg] Re: [ofa-general] Re: RFC OFED-1.3 installation

2007-07-17 Thread Doug Ledford
On Wed, 2007-07-18 at 00:09 +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: Quoting Roland Dreier [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Subject: Re: [ofa-general] Re: RFC OFED-1.3 installation I don't really think we want customers to run beta code What's the point of a beta then?? Donnu. In previous OFED