RE: Very small servers (was: A good space for the Exchange ...)

2001-08-31 Thread Aaron Brasslett
Why use circular logging if they are backing up every night? I would turn that off. Otherwise, if it works, you have pointed out the risks, and they find this acceptable, then go with it... Aaron -Original Message- From: Benjamin Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, August

RE: Very small servers (was: A good space for the Exchange ...)

2001-08-31 Thread Linton Smith (WBTQ)
YES! Consider this - You have some sort of hardware problem that corrupts the database. You learn about it because your backup fails one night. If Circular Logging is not enabled, you can easily recover from this by restoring your last good backup and allowing the logs to replay. If circular

RE: Very small servers (was: A good space for the Exchange ...)

2001-08-31 Thread Ryan, John
If they aren't already doing so, keeping the backup tapes offsite (the president takes them home or something) can be an incredible lifesaver. We saved a company from complete shutdown because we had an offsite backup. The place burned down, my then-boss ran to Costco, grabbed a higher-end

RE: Very small servers (was: A good space for the Exchange ...)

2001-08-31 Thread msharik
Read the disaster recovery whitepaper(s) for reasons why circular logging might not be A Good Thing. http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/Disaster.asp http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/BackupRestore. asp -Michèle Immigration site:

RE: Very small servers (was: A good space for the Exchange ...)

2001-08-31 Thread Linton Smith (WBTQ)
(sorry - previous response was incomplete) YES! Consider this - You have some sort of hardware problem that corrupts the database. You learn about it because your backup fails one night. If Circular Logging is not enabled, you can easily recover from this by restoring your last good backup

Very small servers (was: A good space for the Exchange ...)

2001-08-31 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Fri, 31 Aug 2001, Daniel Chenault wrote: I thought that if you lost the logs, there was a procedure to at least restore the data in the Stores? Yeah, you lose anything that wasn't committed, of course, but can't you recover something? Yes, there is. In my world of support, though, lost

RE: Very small servers (was: A good space for the Exchange ...)

2001-08-31 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Fri, 31 Aug 2001, Tom Meunier wrote: The assumption should have been that the logs are on separate spindles from the IS, and it's less likely that you'd lose both at once. Have you been following this thread? We have to fight these people just to buy a tape drive. Multiple disks just

RE: Very small servers (was: A good space for the Exchange ...)

2001-08-31 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Fri, 31 Aug 2001, Ryan, John wrote: If they aren't already doing so, keeping the backup tapes offsite (the president takes them home or something) can be an incredible lifesaver. Indeed. What is more, the concept of an off-site copy is easy to understand -- even the most non-technical of

RE: Very small servers (was: A good space for the Exchange ...)

2001-08-31 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Fri, 31 Aug 2001, Waters, Jeff wrote: Why use Circular Logging?? Does it make a difference? Our thinking is basically: Given the lack of separate disks, and given a full backup every night, turning circular logging off would not gain us anything. Given the principle of not making changes

RE: Very small servers (was: A good space for the Exchange ...)

2001-08-31 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Fri, 31 Aug 2001, Drewski wrote: If you have circular logging, and then crash before your backup, you may have overwritten log files from that morning -- and will be unable to play them back and recover. Are you talking about a soft crash? That is, the system goes down (e.g., someone