RE: Hi
I used to love her exchanges with Deckler the Heckler. Sadly, I have no knowledge of her whereabouts. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP) All your base are belong to us. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dupler, Craig Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 1:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi Ok, let me try another one. Is anyone left here that remembers or knows the whereabouts of Elaine Sharp? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Exchange 5.5 and Windows XP
What did you upgrade to XP? Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP) All your base are belong to us. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 12:06 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Exchange 5.5 and Windows XP When I upgraded from 2000 to XP, my Exchange 5.5 Administrators Program will not start. Has anyone seen this? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange 5.5 and Windows XP
What did you upgrade to XP? Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP) All your base are belong to us. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 12:06 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Exchange 5.5 and Windows XP When I upgraded from 2000 to XP, my Exchange 5.5 Administrators Program will not start. Has anyone seen this? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Move Exchange 2k to a different box
The ECMSM applies to Exchange 5.5, so shouldn't have anything about AD servers in it. I believe you're referring to the E2KMSM equivalent, which I didn't write. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP) All your base are belong to us. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mike Carlson Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 10:43 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Move Exchange 2k to a different box I was reading the ECMSM and it talks about, if the current exchange box is also a AD server, the steps in making the new box a AD server. If Exchange is running on a DC do I NEED to make the new box a DC? The box I am moving it to is not a DC it is just a 2k server (with SQL) and a member of the domain, but it is not a DC. I want to get exchange off the DC and move it to a regular 2k box. Thanks, Mike Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.domitianx.com Master Of The Spoon People Keeper Of None _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
BackUp
What you describe sounds adequate if Exchange is an online backup of the IS and DS. Try a restore to your recovery server and then you'll know for sure. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP) All your base are belong to us. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mike Carlson Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 6:50 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: BackUp I am going to use NTBackup to back up my exchange box. I have selected system state, C: drive and Exchange. Are there any issues with doing this? Any recommendations? Thanks, Mike Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.domitianx.com Master Of The Spoon People Keeper Of None _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IMC Errors
Configure your file-based AV to not scan the \exchsrvr directory structure. - Original Message - From: Niki Blowfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 8:07 AM Subject: IMC Errors Dear All, We have been getting the following error messages in Event Viewer on our Exchange Server 5.5 SP3; Event ID 4128 Failure setting file attributes on file E:\exchsrvr\imcdata\in\WFBRQJQS. The error code returned was The system cannot find the file specified. . This is an unexpected error and the IMS is shutting down. Followed by; Event ID 4093 The error code 2 was returned when trying to remove the spool file E:\exchsrvr\imcdata\in\WFBRQJQS. This file may cause duplicate mail to be sent when the server is restarted. These are happening quite often, many times a day. Technet lists nothing for that error message. Our mail server was recently used (abused) for anonymous mail relaying, which has now been disabled. However, our IMCDATA folder is now 1.6gb, and I don't know if this is related to the enormous amounts of mail relayed, or indeed the problem in Event Viewer. Any ideas? Thanks in advance Nik _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Move Exchange 2k to a different box
Is there a tool I can use to move everything off the old box to the new box? I was just planning on installing exchange on the other box (which is a member of the same domain), get it up to date and them move everything over to it. Mike Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.domitianx.com Master Of The Spoon People Keeper Of None -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 2:12 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Move Exchange 2k to a different box No, you don't need to make the new box a DC. The supposition for the AD migration portion was the migration in a single server environment. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Mike Carlson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 12:43 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Move Exchange 2k to a different box I was reading the ECMSM and it talks about, if the current exchange box is also a AD server, the steps in making the new box a AD server. If Exchange is running on a DC do I NEED to make the new box a DC? The box I am moving it to is not a DC it is just a 2k server (with SQL) and a member of the domain, but it is not a DC. I want to get exchange off the DC and move it to a regular 2k box. Thanks, Mike Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.domitianx.com Master Of The Spoon People Keeper Of None _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Move Exchange 2k to a different box
Appendix A of the E2K FAQ is probably the safest way to do it... maybe. I made all of it up while drinking margaritas in a pink dress. You could also do a restore to the new box, but that involves downtime and such. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Mike Carlson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 8:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Move Exchange 2k to a different box Is there a tool I can use to move everything off the old box to the new box? I was just planning on installing exchange on the other box (which is a member of the same domain), get it up to date and them move everything over to it. Mike Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.domitianx.com Master Of The Spoon People Keeper Of None -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 2:12 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Move Exchange 2k to a different box No, you don't need to make the new box a DC. The supposition for the AD migration portion was the migration in a single server environment. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Mike Carlson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 12:43 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Move Exchange 2k to a different box I was reading the ECMSM and it talks about, if the current exchange box is also a AD server, the steps in making the new box a AD server. If Exchange is running on a DC do I NEED to make the new box a DC? The box I am moving it to is not a DC it is just a 2k server (with SQL) and a member of the domain, but it is not a DC. I want to get exchange off the DC and move it to a regular 2k box. Thanks, Mike Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.domitianx.com Master Of The Spoon People Keeper Of None _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Event ID 1147
Exchange 5.5 w/ SP4. The following Event ID is written to the Application Log on my Exchange Server twice a day at 10:00am and 3:00pm. I realized after a while that the Storage Warnings are set to occur twice a day at 10:00am 3:00pm. I tried searching TechNet and am having a hard time finding any results Can someone steer me in the right direction. Thanks much! Event Type: Error Event Source: MSExchangeIS Private Event Category: Rules Event ID: 1147 Date: 11/10/2001 Time: 3:00:01 PM User: N/A Computer: NewYork Description: Error --- while disabling rule on public folder with rule ID 0. The folder ID of the public folder is in the data section of this event. ___ This e-mail, including any attachments, may contain information that is protected by law as privileged and confidential, and is transmitted for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, copying or retention of this e-mail or the information contained herein is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by telephone or reply e-mail, and permanently delete this e-mail from your computer system. Thank you. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Exchange 5.5 and Windows XP
If I recall correctly, Ex5.5 is not supported on XP -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 2:06 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Exchange 5.5 and Windows XP When I upgraded from 2000 to XP, my Exchange 5.5 Administrators Program will not start. Has anyone seen this? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Hi
Yes, and no, in that order. Hi Craig :) -Original Message- From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 16:28 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi Ok, let me try another one. Is anyone left here that remembers or knows the whereabouts of Elaine Sharp? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??
Elizabeth, There's precisely one ass in this conversation, and it isn't Kim. Really - go read the archives. The point she makes ragarding your recent addition and clear lack of comprehension are well made. I'm thinking about the last five years, not the last five weeks. If indeed anyone has written to you commenting that Kim is an ass, well, I can only suggest that they are also newbie muppet fools (for want of a better phrase) who would do well to go take some courses, read some manuals, and learn to read the list awhiles before they open their damn fool mouths. Oh, one more thing: your comment: You might care to notice that I help a lot of people - yeah. OK... Those that shout the loudest, and all that. Go check the archives again, and then come back and tell me how many, exactly, of the MS Exchange/Outlook MVP's have made that kind of comment in the last, oh... ever? Does your employer know how much time you spend at work being a prat over the internet? Just curious. Gary -Original Message- From: Kim Cameron Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 11:13 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list?? snipped -Original Message- From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 5:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list?? I'm posting to you off-list because a lot of people have written to me privately to warn me what an ass you are and I feel you are only embarrassing yourself continuing this conversation on in an open forum. E. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Why you don't like disclaimers...
we received an email from one of our mangers which starts it is important that we include this Disclaimer in all our Email communication with immediate effect... I don't like disclaimers more than any of you do... But I want to show him why a disclaimer is such a useless idea. I've gone through my archives and abstracted some Of following parts from various discussions we had. But when I go through it I don't see much of strong arguments opposing the idea of disclaimer. So I'd Like to get your ideas Why you Don't like disclaimers. Following are my l reasons 1. Email disclaimers does not have any legal value Other that the Legal type words used in it 2. It a wastage of band width 3. Its very difficult to read a string of mails (Replies, forwards... etc,) when having huge disclaimers among them. 4. 5.. 6.. Regards Kuminda Kuminda Chandimith Sr. Technical Consultant Ducont.com FZ-LLC Tel: + 971-4-3913000 Ext 237 Fax: +971-4-3913001 http://www.ducont.com Sorry I forgot to copy the credits for some of following abstracts. I was collecting comments, arguments, etc, which was opposing the disclaimers. ~~ Disclaimer: Any errors in spelling, tact, or fact are transmission errors and not the fault of the sender. ~~ And don't forget the first e-mail below that has been sent a couple of times now, explaining how to do an event sink script If you are planning on putting in a disclaimer (which I and many others would advise against as being worthless), consider one of these: WARNING: All e-mail sent to and from this address will be received or otherwise recorded by the your company name corporate e-mail system and is subject to archival, monitoring or review by, and/or disclosure to, someone other than the recipient. The information in this e-mail is confidential and legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient do not read the message. If you do not know whether you are the intended recipient, please consult your attorney. Then delete the message, delete it from Deleted Items, then go into Deleted Items and delete it from the Dumpster. After that, you are legally obligated to demagnitize your hard drive. Of course to get this far, you probably read the message, even though you should not have read it in the first place. Because of your appalling lack of foresight, you must spin yourself into a time warp and reverse the clocks and then delete the message before reading it. How you remember to do that after going backward in in time is your problem. Any views expressed in this message are those of Guido, my sock puppet, so please take up any issues with him. (See the preceeding instructions.) * By reading this eMail, the recipient agrees to purchase unlimited adult beverages for myself and all designated persons for the entire duration of the 2001 MEC conference. If you have received this email in error, or do not wish to partake in adult beverages, and you have opened this email, you are now legally bound. Like anybody reads those things. Ed Crowley Compaq Computer Serving the Exchange Community for over a twentieth of a century! Paul, How come your disclaimer first says: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and may be legally privileged, they are intended solely for the use of the addressee only. Which sounds like it is setting up a contract between you and me about this e-mail message you have sent me. Then, about 3 lines further on the disclaimer says: No contracts may be concluded on behalf of Millfield Partnership Limited by means of email communications. So, do we have a contract - in which case it can't be setup by e-mail! Or do we not have a contract, in which case the email can't be confidential? Have fun :-) Chris * Wow, Paul, that is quite a disclaimer. But can you legally absolve yourself of liability from sending a virus simply by stating so in the email? Sort of a philosophical/logical/legal/for fun debate. Scott. The reason I ask this is because companies that put the unauthorized login warning on their servers and workstations really have no increased protection from lawsuits. They mean nothing, and the courts have never said that they offer any protection, I believe. ** -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 11:19 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: legal disclaimer ...or are you looking for a way to make the silly disclaimer hold up in court? Otherwise, I think you
Re: backup
Pretty basic stuff. All/most all books on E2K and 2K Server have procedures in them to do a backup. Why would you look in the 5.5 FAQ if your using E2K? - Original Message - From: Mike Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 11:55 PM Subject: RE: backup Welp. The E2k faq wasn't much better. Am I going to do any damage from a online backup? Is there anything I should look out for? What is the proper procedure for an offline backup. Any help is appreciated. Mike Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.domitianx.com Master Of The Spoon People Keeper Of None -Original Message- From: Mike Carlson Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 10:37 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: backup Welp. I mispoke about info in the Faq. I was looking in the 5.5 FAQ. 2k faq seems to have a bit more. Mike Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.domitianx.com Master Of The Spoon People Keeper Of None -Original Message- From: Mike Carlson Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 10:35 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: backup It does sound new to me, but I found very little in the FAQ about back up except what to use. I find the FAQ not very useful. Things like Open File Agent = BAD without an explanation is useless. The only reference I found was to an Exchange 5.5 whitepaper on MS's website. The discuss_exch2000 group has 10 entries for backup. The MS info I found here: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/tec hnet/prodt echnol/exchange/maintain/operate/opsguide/e2kops5.asp It talks about off line storage but it doesn't talk about how I should stop the services to do an off-line backup. Do I have to manually stop everything first? I am backing up to disk using NTBackup. Mike Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.domitianx.com Master Of The Spoon People Keeper Of None -Original Message- From: Josefowski, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 8:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: backup Have you backed up the server before? The NT backup on the Exchange server is a little different, and backs up the Exchange Store, known as an on-line backup. If this sounds new to you, you haven't read the FAQ. -Original Message- From: Mike Carlson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 9:50 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: BackUp I am going to use NTBackup to back up my exchange box. I have selected system state, C: drive and Exchange. Are there any issues with doing this? Any recommendations? Thanks, Mike Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.domitianx.com Master Of The Spoon People Keeper Of None _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Why you don't like disclaimers...
What I would do is first ask if this disclaimer has been viewed by the company attorneys, and what they think of doing this. Chances are this manager you speak of has just pulled the disclaimer from his butt and decided it should be used. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kuminda Chandimith Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 2:08 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Why you don't like disclaimers... Importance: Low we received an email from one of our mangers which starts it is important that we include this Disclaimer in all our Email communication with immediate effect... I don't like disclaimers more than any of you do... But I want to show him why a disclaimer is such a useless idea. I've gone through my archives and abstracted some Of following parts from various discussions we had. But when I go through it I don't see much of strong arguments opposing the idea of disclaimer. So I'd Like to get your ideas Why you Don't like disclaimers. Following are my l reasons 1. Email disclaimers does not have any legal value Other that the Legal type words used in it 2. It a wastage of band width 3. Its very difficult to read a string of mails (Replies, forwards... etc,) when having huge disclaimers among them. 4. 5.. 6.. Regards Kuminda Kuminda Chandimith Sr. Technical Consultant Ducont.com FZ-LLC Tel: + 971-4-3913000 Ext 237 Fax: +971-4-3913001 http://www.ducont.com Sorry I forgot to copy the credits for some of following abstracts. I was collecting comments, arguments, etc, which was opposing the disclaimers. ~~ Disclaimer: Any errors in spelling, tact, or fact are transmission errors and not the fault of the sender. ~~ And don't forget the first e-mail below that has been sent a couple of times now, explaining how to do an event sink script If you are planning on putting in a disclaimer (which I and many others would advise against as being worthless), consider one of these: WARNING: All e-mail sent to and from this address will be received or otherwise recorded by the your company name corporate e-mail system and is subject to archival, monitoring or review by, and/or disclosure to, someone other than the recipient. The information in this e-mail is confidential and legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient do not read the message. If you do not know whether you are the intended recipient, please consult your attorney. Then delete the message, delete it from Deleted Items, then go into Deleted Items and delete it from the Dumpster. After that, you are legally obligated to demagnitize your hard drive. Of course to get this far, you probably read the message, even though you should not have read it in the first place. Because of your appalling lack of foresight, you must spin yourself into a time warp and reverse the clocks and then delete the message before reading it. How you remember to do that after going backward in in time is your problem. Any views expressed in this message are those of Guido, my sock puppet, so please take up any issues with him. (See the preceeding instructions.) * By reading this eMail, the recipient agrees to purchase unlimited adult beverages for myself and all designated persons for the entire duration of the 2001 MEC conference. If you have received this email in error, or do not wish to partake in adult beverages, and you have opened this email, you are now legally bound. Like anybody reads those things. Ed Crowley Compaq Computer Serving the Exchange Community for over a twentieth of a century! Paul, How come your disclaimer first says: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and may be legally privileged, they are intended solely for the use of the addressee only. Which sounds like it is setting up a contract between you and me about this e-mail message you have sent me. Then, about 3 lines further on the disclaimer says: No contracts may be concluded on behalf of Millfield Partnership Limited by means of email communications. So, do we have a contract - in which case it can't be setup by e-mail! Or do we not have a contract, in which case the email can't be confidential? Have fun :-) Chris * Wow, Paul, that is quite a disclaimer. But can you legally absolve yourself of liability from sending a virus simply by stating so in the email? Sort of a philosophical/logical/legal/for fun debate. Scott. The reason I ask this is because companies that put the unauthorized login warning on their servers and workstations
Re: backup
Ah the old if I work at it long enough I will get the results needed. I hate that, then you wake up the next day and the light bulb goes off. I have an unwritten rule that after 6-8 hours working at a problem and your running around in circles go home and get a good rest and 9 times out of 10 the answers comes much more quickly. Everytime I am forced to stay at it all nite due to a serious outage the next day I always say man why didn't I think of that last nite. I think coffee dulls the brain after 14 hours. Good luck with your backup maintenance issues. - Original Message - From: Mike Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 10:37 AM Subject: RE: backup Because I clicked on the link at the bottom of the emails. And since it was almost midnight, my time, I failed to notice that the link brought you to the 5.5 faq instead of the 2k faq. Mike Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.domitianx.com Master Of The Spoon People Keeper Of None -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 6:40 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: backup Pretty basic stuff. All/most all books on E2K and 2K Server have procedures in them to do a backup. Why would you look in the 5.5 FAQ if your using E2K? - Original Message - From: Mike Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 11:55 PM Subject: RE: backup Welp. The E2k faq wasn't much better. Am I going to do any damage from a online backup? Is there anything I should look out for? What is the proper procedure for an offline backup. Any help is appreciated. Mike Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.domitianx.com Master Of The Spoon People Keeper Of None -Original Message- From: Mike Carlson Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 10:37 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: backup Welp. I mispoke about info in the Faq. I was looking in the 5.5 FAQ. 2k faq seems to have a bit more. Mike Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.domitianx.com Master Of The Spoon People Keeper Of None -Original Message- From: Mike Carlson Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 10:35 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: backup It does sound new to me, but I found very little in the FAQ about back up except what to use. I find the FAQ not very useful. Things like Open File Agent = BAD without an explanation is useless. The only reference I found was to an Exchange 5.5 whitepaper on MS's website. The discuss_exch2000 group has 10 entries for backup. The MS info I found here: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/tec hnet/prodt echnol/exchange/maintain/operate/opsguide/e2kops5.asp It talks about off line storage but it doesn't talk about how I should stop the services to do an off-line backup. Do I have to manually stop everything first? I am backing up to disk using NTBackup. Mike Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.domitianx.com Master Of The Spoon People Keeper Of None -Original Message- From: Josefowski, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 8:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: backup Have you backed up the server before? The NT backup on the Exchange server is a little different, and backs up the Exchange Store, known as an on-line backup. If this sounds new to you, you haven't read the FAQ. -Original Message- From: Mike Carlson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 9:50 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: BackUp I am going to use NTBackup to back up my exchange box. I have selected system state, C: drive and Exchange. Are there any issues with doing this? Any recommendations? Thanks, Mike Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.domitianx.com Master Of The Spoon People Keeper Of None _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL
RE: Emails sent twice: once plain text, once HTML
I'm not really sure what your architecture is here. Are you saying that you have two separate email systems; one for internet mail and one for intranet mail? My first question, if this is the case, is why? If the above is correct, you have probably made a change on your Linux system that is causing it to have an issue with the fact that E2K sends each message as both plain text and HTML. If that is the case you can either find out what you changed and remove the change or get your Linux people to fix it. The next option is to change the default Internet Mail Format to just plaintext. By default E2K sends all internet mail as both plaint text and HTML. Some non-Exchange systems have trouble with this. For those domains that have an issue you can set up domain exceptions under Global Settings/Internet Message Format in ESM. Choose to send plain text OR HTML rather than both. If your problem is just with a few external domains, you might want to try an exception for one of the effected domains to see if the result is better. Tom. -Original Message- From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 12:04 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Emails sent twice: once plain text, once HTML Hi, A recent problem has appeared in which emails sent by the Exchange users are being received twice. The plain text message header shows it being sent from the user machine, to the internal linux mail server to the recipient. The HTML mail has the same sent-time, but the receiving time is minutes later. The header for these mails show it going to the Exchange server to the recipient. Is there a way to stop this without removing the Internet Mail account from the Services list? The users need to check both the internal mail (Exchange) and the external (Internet Mail). The clients are using Outlook 2000 and the server is 2000 also. Note: Although the Exchange server has been in place for some months, this problem has recently appeared. Thanks, A.W. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: backup
I know what you mean. I don't trick coffee, but Mountain Dew gets really old after a while. This is a learning process for me. I have exchange setup at home and I am in the process of learning how it works and what not. I am going out today to purchase some books on the topic, which will help immensely. I have only had it setup for a few weeks. The backup ran last night and everything seems to be working fine. All I need is System state, the storage group and the C: drive right? The box is also the DC for AD. Since this is a home box, I can afford to mess something up without major impact. Mike Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.domitianx.com Master Of The Spoon People Keeper Of None -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 9:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: backup Ah the old if I work at it long enough I will get the results needed. I hate that, then you wake up the next day and the light bulb goes off. I have an unwritten rule that after 6-8 hours working at a problem and your running around in circles go home and get a good rest and 9 times out of 10 the answers comes much more quickly. Everytime I am forced to stay at it all nite due to a serious outage the next day I always say man why didn't I think of that last nite. I think coffee dulls the brain after 14 hours. Good luck with your backup maintenance issues. - Original Message - From: Mike Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 10:37 AM Subject: RE: backup Because I clicked on the link at the bottom of the emails. And since it was almost midnight, my time, I failed to notice that the link brought you to the 5.5 faq instead of the 2k faq. Mike Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.domitianx.com Master Of The Spoon People Keeper Of None -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 6:40 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: backup Pretty basic stuff. All/most all books on E2K and 2K Server have procedures in them to do a backup. Why would you look in the 5.5 FAQ if your using E2K? - Original Message - From: Mike Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 11:55 PM Subject: RE: backup Welp. The E2k faq wasn't much better. Am I going to do any damage from a online backup? Is there anything I should look out for? What is the proper procedure for an offline backup. Any help is appreciated. Mike Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.domitianx.com Master Of The Spoon People Keeper Of None -Original Message- From: Mike Carlson Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 10:37 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: backup Welp. I mispoke about info in the Faq. I was looking in the 5.5 FAQ. 2k faq seems to have a bit more. Mike Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.domitianx.com Master Of The Spoon People Keeper Of None -Original Message- From: Mike Carlson Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 10:35 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: backup It does sound new to me, but I found very little in the FAQ about back up except what to use. I find the FAQ not very useful. Things like Open File Agent = BAD without an explanation is useless. The only reference I found was to an Exchange 5.5 whitepaper on MS's website. The discuss_exch2000 group has 10 entries for backup. The MS info I found here: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/tec hnet/prodt echnol/exchange/maintain/operate/opsguide/e2kops5.asp It talks about off line storage but it doesn't talk about how I should stop the services to do an off-line backup. Do I have to manually stop everything first? I am backing up to disk using NTBackup. Mike Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.domitianx.com Master Of The Spoon People Keeper Of None -Original Message- From: Josefowski, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 8:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: backup Have you backed up the server before? The NT backup on the Exchange server is a little different, and backs up the Exchange Store, known as an on-line backup. If this sounds new to you, you haven't read the FAQ. -Original Message- From: Mike Carlson [mailto:[EMAIL
Re: Hi
Heck, I know what it means. There are a couple left, but the core has fled the coop, methinks... - Original Message - From: Dupler, Craig [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 4:18 PM Subject: Hi Is anyone left here that remembers what Bravehearts meant? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: backup
You have it right. Missy - Original Message - From: Mike Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 11:04 AM Subject: RE: backup I know what you mean. I don't trick coffee, but Mountain Dew gets really old after a while. This is a learning process for me. I have exchange setup at home and I am in the process of learning how it works and what not. I am going out today to purchase some books on the topic, which will help immensely. I have only had it setup for a few weeks. The backup ran last night and everything seems to be working fine. All I need is System state, the storage group and the C: drive right? The box is also the DC for AD. Since this is a home box, I can afford to mess something up without major impact. Mike Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.domitianx.com Master Of The Spoon People Keeper Of None -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 9:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: backup Ah the old if I work at it long enough I will get the results needed. I hate that, then you wake up the next day and the light bulb goes off. I have an unwritten rule that after 6-8 hours working at a problem and your running around in circles go home and get a good rest and 9 times out of 10 the answers comes much more quickly. Everytime I am forced to stay at it all nite due to a serious outage the next day I always say man why didn't I think of that last nite. I think coffee dulls the brain after 14 hours. Good luck with your backup maintenance issues. - Original Message - From: Mike Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 10:37 AM Subject: RE: backup Because I clicked on the link at the bottom of the emails. And since it was almost midnight, my time, I failed to notice that the link brought you to the 5.5 faq instead of the 2k faq. Mike Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.domitianx.com Master Of The Spoon People Keeper Of None -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 6:40 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: backup Pretty basic stuff. All/most all books on E2K and 2K Server have procedures in them to do a backup. Why would you look in the 5.5 FAQ if your using E2K? - Original Message - From: Mike Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 11:55 PM Subject: RE: backup Welp. The E2k faq wasn't much better. Am I going to do any damage from a online backup? Is there anything I should look out for? What is the proper procedure for an offline backup. Any help is appreciated. Mike Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.domitianx.com Master Of The Spoon People Keeper Of None -Original Message- From: Mike Carlson Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 10:37 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: backup Welp. I mispoke about info in the Faq. I was looking in the 5.5 FAQ. 2k faq seems to have a bit more. Mike Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.domitianx.com Master Of The Spoon People Keeper Of None -Original Message- From: Mike Carlson Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 10:35 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: backup It does sound new to me, but I found very little in the FAQ about back up except what to use. I find the FAQ not very useful. Things like Open File Agent = BAD without an explanation is useless. The only reference I found was to an Exchange 5.5 whitepaper on MS's website. The discuss_exch2000 group has 10 entries for backup. The MS info I found here: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/tec hnet/prodt echnol/exchange/maintain/operate/opsguide/e2kops5.asp It talks about off line storage but it doesn't talk about how I should stop the services to do an off-line backup. Do I have to manually stop everything first? I am backing up to disk using NTBackup. Mike Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.domitianx.com Master Of The Spoon People Keeper Of None -Original Message- From: Josefowski, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 8:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: backup Have you backed up the server before? The NT backup on the Exchange server is a little different, and backs up the
RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??
You're a prat wherever you are. . . -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 6:19 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list?? I'm a prat in the office, so I'm sure my employer just assumes I'm a prat on the Internet! ;) Andy -Original Message- From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 3:36 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list?? Elizabeth, There's precisely one ass in this conversation, and it isn't Kim. Really - go read the archives. The point she makes ragarding your recent addition and clear lack of comprehension are well made. I'm thinking about the last five years, not the last five weeks. If indeed anyone has written to you commenting that Kim is an ass, well, I can only suggest that they are also newbie muppet fools (for want of a better phrase) who would do well to go take some courses, read some manuals, and learn to read the list awhiles before they open their damn fool mouths. Oh, one more thing: your comment: You might care to notice that I help a lot of people - yeah. OK... Those that shout the loudest, and all that. Go check the archives again, and then come back and tell me how many, exactly, of the MS Exchange/Outlook MVP's have made that kind of comment in the last, oh... ever? Does your employer know how much time you spend at work being a prat over the internet? Just curious. Gary _ L _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Move Exchange 2k to a different box
I was reading the ECMSM and it talks about, if the current exchange box is also a AD server, the steps in making the new box a AD server. If Exchange is running on a DC do I NEED to make the new box a DC? The box I am moving it to is not a DC it is just a 2k server (with SQL) and a member of the domain, but it is not a DC. I want to get exchange off the DC and move it to a regular 2k box. Thanks, Mike Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.domitianx.com Master Of The Spoon People Keeper Of None _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Move Exchange 2k to a different box
No, you don't need to make the new box a DC. The supposition for the AD migration portion was the migration in a single server environment. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Mike Carlson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 12:43 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Move Exchange 2k to a different box I was reading the ECMSM and it talks about, if the current exchange box is also a AD server, the steps in making the new box a AD server. If Exchange is running on a DC do I NEED to make the new box a DC? The box I am moving it to is not a DC it is just a 2k server (with SQL) and a member of the domain, but it is not a DC. I want to get exchange off the DC and move it to a regular 2k box. Thanks, Mike Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.domitianx.com Master Of The Spoon People Keeper Of None _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: Mac terminal Services Client
Sorry for the OT, but I have been searching the ms site... I'm looking for the Macintosh terminal services client that MS even refers to in their w2k term srvcs site. I have been reading the help files, and no mention of it. I can't use the regular tsweb stuff through the web as it uses active X controls. Any ideas? Please reply off list to me since this is OT. Thanks much! Dustin _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
