Re: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit

2001-12-20 Thread Daniel Chenault

The receiving system has a receive size limit.

- Original Message -
From: Robert V [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 3:53 PM
Subject: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit


 Have Exchange 5.5 Server on NT 4.0 SP6A, clients are Outlook 98 and also
 2000 - problem is occuring with both.

 Basically we have users who are trying to send large attachments, in this
 example 14mb, to an outside address.  The system administrator returns the
 message as undeliverable, stating a 552 Exceeded local data allocation
 limit

 I have tested sending this message to an aol address, and another business
 address, and it fails each time.  It seems this undeliverable message is
 coming from our system, however our system does not have a limit set for
 the internet connector.

 The user mailboxes on our system are not nearing their limit either.  I
 don't see anything in our event log either.

 Any thoughts?

 Rob VadeBonCoeur
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit

2001-12-19 Thread Garrish, Robert B.

Dear Robert,

Q254921

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q254921


Rob Garrish
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-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 04:59 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit


552 EXCEEDED STORAGE ALLOCATION

 -Original Message-
 From: Robert V [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 4:06 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit
 
 
 Okay, so what part of this contains the info I'm looking for? 
 (This is a test message to an aol address)
 
 Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients.
 
   Subject:TEST
   Sent:   12/18/01 3:08 PM
 
 The following recipient(s) could not be reached:
 
   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 12/18/01 3:30 PM
 Unable to deliver the message due to a 
 communications failure
   The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= 
 ;p=Blistex;l=BLISTEXEXC-011218212354Z-27729
 MSEXCH:IMS:Blistex:BlistexInc:BLISTEXEXC 3552 
 (000B09AA) 552 EXCEEDED STORAGE ALLOCATION
 
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RE: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit

2001-12-19 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, Chris Scharff wrote:
 If it serves a business need and e-mail is the easiest  method for
 achieving
 that goal, barring other limitations it seems just fine to me.

  Internet email is not designed for large file transfer.  That sure
qualifies as other limitations in my book.  :)

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552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit

2001-12-18 Thread Robert V

Have Exchange 5.5 Server on NT 4.0 SP6A, clients are Outlook 98 and also
2000 - problem is occuring with both.

Basically we have users who are trying to send large attachments, in this
example 14mb, to an outside address.  The system administrator returns the
message as undeliverable, stating a 552 Exceeded local data allocation
limit

I have tested sending this message to an aol address, and another business
address, and it fails each time.  It seems this undeliverable message is
coming from our system, however our system does not have a limit set for
the internet connector.

The user mailboxes on our system are not nearing their limit either.  I
don't see anything in our event log either.

Any thoughts?

Rob VadeBonCoeur
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RE: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit

2001-12-18 Thread Don Ely

It's coming from the remote mail servers.  They don't want your big ass 14MB
attachments.

D

The secret to success is to know something nobody else knows. -Aristotle
Onassis

-Original Message-
From: Robert V [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 1:53 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit


Have Exchange 5.5 Server on NT 4.0 SP6A, clients are Outlook 98 and also
2000 - problem is occuring with both.

Basically we have users who are trying to send large attachments, in this
example 14mb, to an outside address.  The system administrator returns the
message as undeliverable, stating a 552 Exceeded local data allocation
limit

I have tested sending this message to an aol address, and another business
address, and it fails each time.  It seems this undeliverable message is
coming from our system, however our system does not have a limit set for the
internet connector.

The user mailboxes on our system are not nearing their limit either.  I
don't see anything in our event log either.

Any thoughts?

Rob VadeBonCoeur
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit

2001-12-18 Thread Robert V

D,

That is what I was thinking.  How can our users tell that it is coming
from the remote system?

Thanks,

Rob

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RE: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit

2001-12-18 Thread Mark Peoples

I would say that whereever you are sending the message has a smaller mailbox
limit than the size of the message that is being sent... but a copy of the
NDR would certainly help with a precise answer...

MP

-Original Message-
From: Robert V [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, 19 December 2001 8:53 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit


Have Exchange 5.5 Server on NT 4.0 SP6A, clients are Outlook 98 and also
2000 - problem is occuring with both.

Basically we have users who are trying to send large attachments, in this
example 14mb, to an outside address.  The system administrator returns the
message as undeliverable, stating a 552 Exceeded local data allocation
limit

I have tested sending this message to an aol address, and another business
address, and it fails each time.  It seems this undeliverable message is
coming from our system, however our system does not have a limit set for
the internet connector.

The user mailboxes on our system are not nearing their limit either.  I
don't see anything in our event log either.

Any thoughts?

Rob VadeBonCoeur
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit

2001-12-18 Thread Chris Scharff

You could have them read RFC821 and give them a quiz to test for
comprehension.

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 Subject: RE: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit
 
 
 D,
 
 That is what I was thinking.  How can our users tell that it 
 is coming from the remote system?

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RE: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit

2001-12-18 Thread Hunter, Lori


blistex 

Can you post that NDR?  I could then show you which part of it tells the
tale.

-Original Message-
From: Robert V [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 3:53 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit


Have Exchange 5.5 Server on NT 4.0 SP6A, clients are Outlook 98 and also
2000 - problem is occuring with both.

Basically we have users who are trying to send large attachments, in this
example 14mb, to an outside address.  The system administrator returns the
message as undeliverable, stating a 552 Exceeded local data allocation
limit

I have tested sending this message to an aol address, and another business
address, and it fails each time.  It seems this undeliverable message is
coming from our system, however our system does not have a limit set for
the internet connector.

The user mailboxes on our system are not nearing their limit either.  I
don't see anything in our event log either.

Any thoughts?

Rob VadeBonCoeur
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit

2001-12-18 Thread Don Ely

Edumecate them...

Or Chris's idea was good too!  ;o)

Otherwise, it's on you my friend...

D

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-Original Message-
From: Robert V [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 1:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit


D,

That is what I was thinking.  How can our users tell that it is coming from
the remote system?

Thanks,

Rob

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RE: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit

2001-12-18 Thread Robert V

Okay, so what part of this contains the info I'm looking for?
(This is a test message to an aol address)

Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients.

  Subject:  TEST
  Sent: 12/18/01 3:08 PM

The following recipient(s) could not be reached:

  '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 12/18/01 3:30 PM
Unable to deliver the message due to a communications failure
The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a=
;p=Blistex;l=BLISTEXEXC-011218212354Z-27729
MSEXCH:IMS:Blistex:BlistexInc:BLISTEXEXC 3552 (000B09AA) 552
EXCEEDED STORAGE ALLOCATION

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RE: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit

2001-12-18 Thread Chris Scharff

552 EXCEEDED STORAGE ALLOCATION

 -Original Message-
 From: Robert V [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 4:06 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit
 
 
 Okay, so what part of this contains the info I'm looking for? 
 (This is a test message to an aol address)
 
 Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients.
 
   Subject:TEST
   Sent:   12/18/01 3:08 PM
 
 The following recipient(s) could not be reached:
 
   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 12/18/01 3:30 PM
 Unable to deliver the message due to a 
 communications failure
   The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= 
 ;p=Blistex;l=BLISTEXEXC-011218212354Z-27729
 MSEXCH:IMS:Blistex:BlistexInc:BLISTEXEXC 3552 
 (000B09AA) 552 EXCEEDED STORAGE ALLOCATION
 
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RE: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit

2001-12-18 Thread Robert V

I would have never guessed...;)  Thank you for enlightening me! ;)

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RE: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit

2001-12-18 Thread Mark Peoples

How much space is available at the aol address for e-mails? Is presume
it is NOT unrestricted...

Can you send through smaller attachments to the same or different
addresses? Are you able to break up the attachment into files that are
small enough to not warrant ftp'ing them? (hint)

MP

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Sent: Wednesday, 19 December 2001 9:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit


I would have never guessed...;)  Thank you for enlightening me! ;)

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RE: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit

2001-12-18 Thread Durkee, Peter

I think the AOL limit is around 5MB.

-Peter


-Original Message-
From: Mark Peoples [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 14:22
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit


How much space is available at the aol address for e-mails? Is presume
it is NOT unrestricted...

Can you send through smaller attachments to the same or different
addresses? Are you able to break up the attachment into files that are
small enough to not warrant ftp'ing them? (hint)

MP

-Original Message-
From: Robert V [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, 19 December 2001 9:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit


I would have never guessed...;)  Thank you for enlightening me! ;)

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RE: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit

2001-12-18 Thread Martin Blackstone

There is no way on earth an AOL address is going to accept a 14MB attachment
or most any other ISP. Private email systems may. But you are stretching it
regardless. 

You also need to post the NDR in its entirety.

-Original Message-
From: Robert V [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 1:53 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit


Have Exchange 5.5 Server on NT 4.0 SP6A, clients are Outlook 98 and also
2000 - problem is occuring with both.

Basically we have users who are trying to send large attachments, in this
example 14mb, to an outside address.  The system administrator returns the
message as undeliverable, stating a 552 Exceeded local data allocation
limit

I have tested sending this message to an aol address, and another business
address, and it fails each time.  It seems this undeliverable message is
coming from our system, however our system does not have a limit set for
the internet connector.

The user mailboxes on our system are not nearing their limit either.  I
don't see anything in our event log either.

Any thoughts?

Rob VadeBonCoeur
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit

2001-12-18 Thread Martin Blackstone

A 14MB file shouldn't be emailed. It should be FTP'd or put on a web site
with a link. I would be pissed if people were pumping files that size to my
users.
One time, sure, constant, no way.

-Original Message-
From: Mark Peoples [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit


How much space is available at the aol address for e-mails? Is presume
it is NOT unrestricted...

Can you send through smaller attachments to the same or different
addresses? Are you able to break up the attachment into files that are
small enough to not warrant ftp'ing them? (hint)

MP

-Original Message-
From: Robert V [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, 19 December 2001 9:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit


I would have never guessed...;)  Thank you for enlightening me! ;)

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RE: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit

2001-12-18 Thread Mark Peoples

I totally agree. 14 mb is way too big for a single e-mail. Breaking it
down into a few attachments of 2-3mb's each though would be OK by me
(assuming the mailbox could handle that.)

MP

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, 19 December 2001 10:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit


A 14MB file shouldn't be emailed. It should be FTP'd or put on a web
site
with a link. I would be pissed if people were pumping files that size to
my
users.
One time, sure, constant, no way.

-Original Message-
From: Mark Peoples [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit


How much space is available at the aol address for e-mails? Is presume
it is NOT unrestricted...

Can you send through smaller attachments to the same or different
addresses? Are you able to break up the attachment into files that are
small enough to not warrant ftp'ing them? (hint)

MP

-Original Message-
From: Robert V [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, 19 December 2001 9:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit


I would have never guessed...;)  Thank you for enlightening me! ;)

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RE: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit

2001-12-18 Thread Blunt, James H (Jim)

Actually, I have an AOL account...I know, I know...but I've had it since
before I became a network admin and all my friends know the address...

Mailbox limit for AOL is 16 mb
Single-Instance inbound e-mail limit is 3.5 mb

-Original Message-
From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 3:15 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit


I think the AOL limit is around 5MB.

-Peter


-Original Message-
From: Mark Peoples [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 14:22
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit


How much space is available at the aol address for e-mails? Is presume it is
NOT unrestricted...

Can you send through smaller attachments to the same or different addresses?
Are you able to break up the attachment into files that are small enough to
not warrant ftp'ing them? (hint)

MP

-Original Message-
From: Robert V [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, 19 December 2001 9:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit


I would have never guessed...;)  Thank you for enlightening me! ;)

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RE: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit

2001-12-18 Thread Chris Scharff

If it serves a business need and e-mail is the easiest method for achieving
that goal, barring other limitations it seems just fine to me. When I worked
for $vsc it was not uncommon to receive a mail message from a customer which
contained an attachment of 100MB or more.

Given that AOL doesn't support attachments over ~=3MB, the barring other
limitations clause does seem to come into play in this particular instance.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone
To: Exchange Discussions
Sent: 12/18/2001 5:40 PM
Subject: RE: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit

A 14MB file shouldn't be emailed. It should be FTP'd or put on a web
site
with a link. I would be pissed if people were pumping files that size to
my
users.
One time, sure, constant, no way.

-Original Message-
From: Mark Peoples [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit


How much space is available at the aol address for e-mails? Is presume
it is NOT unrestricted...

Can you send through smaller attachments to the same or different
addresses? Are you able to break up the attachment into files that are
small enough to not warrant ftp'ing them? (hint)

MP

-Original Message-
From: Robert V [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, 19 December 2001 9:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit


I would have never guessed...;)  Thank you for enlightening me! ;)


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RE: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit

2001-12-18 Thread Martin Blackstone

You should say if it serves both parties needs. In other words, while it
may serve yours, it may not serve mine and if it is my mail system you are
sending too, YOU need to find another way.
As I said, there are other ways. The simplest would be to post them to a web
page and allow directory browsing of that page.
www.yourcompany.com/attachments_for_martin 
Also if this is a regular thing, there are better methods. Its just a matter
of a little user education.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 6:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit


If it serves a business need and e-mail is the easiest method for achieving
that goal, barring other limitations it seems just fine to me. When I worked
for $vsc it was not uncommon to receive a mail message from a customer which
contained an attachment of 100MB or more.

Given that AOL doesn't support attachments over ~=3MB, the barring other
limitations clause does seem to come into play in this particular instance.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone
To: Exchange Discussions
Sent: 12/18/2001 5:40 PM
Subject: RE: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit

A 14MB file shouldn't be emailed. It should be FTP'd or put on a web
site
with a link. I would be pissed if people were pumping files that size to
my
users.
One time, sure, constant, no way.

-Original Message-
From: Mark Peoples [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit


How much space is available at the aol address for e-mails? Is presume
it is NOT unrestricted...

Can you send through smaller attachments to the same or different
addresses? Are you able to break up the attachment into files that are
small enough to not warrant ftp'ing them? (hint)

MP

-Original Message-
From: Robert V [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, 19 December 2001 9:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit


I would have never guessed...;)  Thank you for enlightening me! ;)


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RE: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit

2001-12-18 Thread Ed Crowley

The 552 at the end of the message tells you that the message bounced in an
SMTP transaction.  That makes it pretty clear that the recipient's e-mail
system is responsible.

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer
There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert V
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit


Okay, so what part of this contains the info I'm looking for?
(This is a test message to an aol address)

Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients.

  Subject:  TEST
  Sent: 12/18/01 3:08 PM

The following recipient(s) could not be reached:

  '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 12/18/01 3:30 PM
Unable to deliver the message due to a communications failure
The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a=
;p=Blistex;l=BLISTEXEXC-011218212354Z-27729
MSEXCH:IMS:Blistex:BlistexInc:BLISTEXEXC 3552 (000B09AA) 552
EXCEEDED STORAGE ALLOCATION

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RE: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit

2001-12-18 Thread Ed Crowley

Your oversnipping leaves your messages with no context.

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer
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-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert V
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 552 Exceeded Local Data Allocation Limit


I would have never guessed...;)  Thank you for enlightening me! ;)

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