RE: Ntbackup vs. Veritas for Exch 5.5 D/R ??

2003-01-13 Thread Hurst, Paul
The newer version of BE (8 onwards) you can backup to disc.

Cheers

Paul

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-Original Message-
From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 10 January 2003 18:35
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Ntbackup vs. Veritas for Exch 5.5 D/R ??


Our old exchange box is running NT4 and exchange 5.5 with veritas backup
exec 7.3 (and the exchange addon).  I have just set up a new server with
win2k server and exchange 5.5 and I am considering just using ntbackup for
D/R (disaster recovery).  

I understand the adavantages of the Veritas backup database for file backup
and recovery, but in the case of recovering an exchange server I'm not sure
what extra I am getting from veritas.  One thing that ntbackup will do that
I have not been able to do with Veritas is backup to a file.  With Ntbackup,
I can do a full backup to another hard drive and then another second
complete backup to a tape every night.  I can still have the tapes offsite
etc, but now also have a much faster restore off of another hard drive.


Tom Alverson

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Re: Ntbackup vs. Veritas for Exch 5.5 D/R ??

2003-01-13 Thread Andy David
nitpick
I believe that only 8.6 supports that feature.

- Original Message -
From: Hurst, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 3:59 AM
Subject: RE: Ntbackup vs. Veritas for Exch 5.5 D/R ??


 The newer version of BE (8 onwards) you can backup to disc.

 Cheers

 Paul

 Standards are like toothbrushes,
 everyone wants one but not yours


 -Original Message-
 From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 10 January 2003 18:35
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Ntbackup vs. Veritas for Exch 5.5 D/R ??


 Our old exchange box is running NT4 and exchange 5.5 with veritas backup
 exec 7.3 (and the exchange addon).  I have just set up a new server with
 win2k server and exchange 5.5 and I am considering just using ntbackup for
 D/R (disaster recovery).

 I understand the adavantages of the Veritas backup database for file
backup
 and recovery, but in the case of recovering an exchange server I'm not
sure
 what extra I am getting from veritas.  One thing that ntbackup will do
that
 I have not been able to do with Veritas is backup to a file.  With
Ntbackup,
 I can do a full backup to another hard drive and then another second
 complete backup to a tape every night.  I can still have the tapes offsite
 etc, but now also have a much faster restore off of another hard drive.


 Tom Alverson

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RE: Ntbackup vs. Veritas for Exch 5.5 D/R ??

2003-01-13 Thread Alverson, Tom
I have a file server with 8.6 on it and I did not see the feature (backup to
disk) at first because you must first create a special file backup folder
before it appears as a choice.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 7:42 AM
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Subject: Re: Ntbackup vs. Veritas for Exch 5.5 D/R ??


nitpick
I believe that only 8.6 supports that feature.

- Original Message -
From: Hurst, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 3:59 AM
Subject: RE: Ntbackup vs. Veritas for Exch 5.5 D/R ??


 The newer version of BE (8 onwards) you can backup to disc.

 Cheers

 Paul

 Standards are like toothbrushes,
 everyone wants one but not yours


 -Original Message-
 From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 10 January 2003 18:35
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Ntbackup vs. Veritas for Exch 5.5 D/R ??


 Our old exchange box is running NT4 and exchange 5.5 with veritas 
 backup exec 7.3 (and the exchange addon).  I have just set up a new 
 server with win2k server and exchange 5.5 and I am considering just 
 using ntbackup for D/R (disaster recovery).

 I understand the adavantages of the Veritas backup database for file
backup
 and recovery, but in the case of recovering an exchange server I'm not
sure
 what extra I am getting from veritas.  One thing that ntbackup will do
that
 I have not been able to do with Veritas is backup to a file.  With
Ntbackup,
 I can do a full backup to another hard drive and then another second 
 complete backup to a tape every night.  I can still have the tapes 
 offsite etc, but now also have a much faster restore off of another 
 hard drive.


 Tom Alverson

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Ntbackup vs. Veritas for Exch 5.5 D/R ??

2003-01-10 Thread Alverson, Tom
Our old exchange box is running NT4 and exchange 5.5 with veritas backup
exec 7.3 (and the exchange addon).  I have just set up a new server with
win2k server and exchange 5.5 and I am considering just using ntbackup for
D/R (disaster recovery).  

I understand the adavantages of the Veritas backup database for file backup
and recovery, but in the case of recovering an exchange server I'm not sure
what extra I am getting from veritas.  One thing that ntbackup will do that
I have not been able to do with Veritas is backup to a file.  With Ntbackup,
I can do a full backup to another hard drive and then another second
complete backup to a tape every night.  I can still have the tapes offsite
etc, but now also have a much faster restore off of another hard drive.


Tom Alverson

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RE: Ntbackup vs. Veritas for Exch 5.5 D/R ??

2003-01-10 Thread Depp, Dennis M.
The biggest fault I have found with Ntbackup is its lack of support for
tape auto-stackers.  If that is not a concer for you, I would go with
Ntbackup.  

Dennis

-Original Message-
From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 1:35 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Ntbackup vs. Veritas for Exch 5.5 D/R ??


Our old exchange box is running NT4 and exchange 5.5 with veritas backup
exec 7.3 (and the exchange addon).  I have just set up a new server with
win2k server and exchange 5.5 and I am considering just using ntbackup
for D/R (disaster recovery).  

I understand the adavantages of the Veritas backup database for file
backup and recovery, but in the case of recovering an exchange server
I'm not sure what extra I am getting from veritas.  One thing that
ntbackup will do that I have not been able to do with Veritas is backup
to a file.  With Ntbackup, I can do a full backup to another hard drive
and then another second complete backup to a tape every night.  I can
still have the tapes offsite etc, but now also have a much faster
restore off of another hard drive.


Tom Alverson

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RE: Ntbackup vs. Veritas for Exch 5.5 D/R ??

2003-01-10 Thread Alverson, Tom
Not an issue.  The tape drive is an HP Ultrium 100/200G drive that can
easily hold our 30G store.

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From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 1:46 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Ntbackup vs. Veritas for Exch 5.5 D/R ??


The biggest fault I have found with Ntbackup is its lack of support for tape
auto-stackers.  If that is not a concer for you, I would go with Ntbackup.  

Dennis

-Original Message-
From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 1:35 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Ntbackup vs. Veritas for Exch 5.5 D/R ??


Our old exchange box is running NT4 and exchange 5.5 with veritas backup
exec 7.3 (and the exchange addon).  I have just set up a new server with
win2k server and exchange 5.5 and I am considering just using ntbackup for
D/R (disaster recovery).  

I understand the adavantages of the Veritas backup database for file backup
and recovery, but in the case of recovering an exchange server I'm not sure
what extra I am getting from veritas.  One thing that ntbackup will do that
I have not been able to do with Veritas is backup to a file.  With Ntbackup,
I can do a full backup to another hard drive and then another second
complete backup to a tape every night.  I can still have the tapes offsite
etc, but now also have a much faster restore off of another hard drive.


Tom Alverson

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RE: Ntbackup vs. Veritas for Exch 5.5 D/R ??

2003-01-10 Thread Walden H. Leverich III
I can do a full backup to another hard drive and then another second
complete backup to a tape every night.  

Or, you could do as we do, a complete backup to a drive each night, and then
backup _that_ drive to tape. We've centralized a number of our server
backups to a machine we affectionately call backup and then we backup the
backup files to tape.

Granted it's a two step process to restore, first restore the .bak from the
tape to the machine and then the files from the .bak, but on the other hand
I can restore a machine w/o having to retrieve the backup tapes.

-Walden


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-Original Message-
From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 1:35 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Ntbackup vs. Veritas for Exch 5.5 D/R ??


Our old exchange box is running NT4 and exchange 5.5 with veritas backup
exec 7.3 (and the exchange addon).  I have just set up a new server with
win2k server and exchange 5.5 and I am considering just using ntbackup for
D/R (disaster recovery).  

I understand the adavantages of the Veritas backup database for file backup
and recovery, but in the case of recovering an exchange server I'm not sure
what extra I am getting from veritas.  One thing that ntbackup will do that
I have not been able to do with Veritas is backup to a file.  With Ntbackup,
I can do a full backup to another hard drive and then another second
complete backup to a tape every night.  I can still have the tapes offsite
etc, but now also have a much faster restore off of another hard drive.


Tom Alverson

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