RE: ORB UK - cross post - long

2001-12-04 Thread Schwartz, Jim
in. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 9:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ORB UK - cross post - long I tested between the time you posted and the time I replied... and between the time you replied and the time

RE: ORB UK - cross post - long

2001-12-04 Thread Chris Scharff
Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 8:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ORB UK - cross post - long And I guess that's where my question arises. In RFC2821 it talks about the mail conversation. The conversation isn't complete

RE: ORB UK - cross post - long

2001-12-04 Thread Chris Scharff
RGH! I blame lack of caffeine for allowing myself to fall into the logic trap both sides set up. Yes, it appears that BBandT.com is not an open relay. Yes, it appears that BBandT.com as configured is horribly non-RFC complaint. Yes, orbz and other RBL services purport to report on open

Re: ORB UK - cross post - long

2001-12-04 Thread Daniel Chenault
Then again the part of the RFC discussing this uses should rather than must. - Original Message - From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 8:15 AM Subject: RE: ORB UK - cross post - long I tested between the time

Re: ORB UK - cross post - long

2001-12-04 Thread Daniel Chenault
: Schwartz, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 8:57 AM Subject: RE: ORB UK - cross post - long Chris, Thanks. I've found the configuration error. Our firewall was acting as a store and forward device. Mail that was delivered

RE: ORB UK - cross post - long

2001-12-04 Thread Robert Moir
-Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 December 2001 16:01 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: ORB UK - cross post - long Note that relays are specifically mentioned in 2821. In the discussion of relaying the bottom line

Re: ORB UK - cross post - long

2001-12-04 Thread Paul Cummins
Note that relays are specifically mentioned in 2821. In the discussion of relaying the bottom line is that a relay is not expected to do much of anything at all, though it _should_ do xyz and _may_ do abc. Agreed. What he should be testing on is the return of the NDR. No. There are three

Re: ORB UK - cross post - long

2001-12-04 Thread Daniel Chenault
: ORB UK - cross post - long Note that relays are specifically mentioned in 2821. In the discussion of relaying the bottom line is that a relay is not expected to do much of anything at all, though it _should_ do xyz and _may_ do abc. Agreed. What he should be testing on is the return

RE: ORB UK - cross post - long

2001-12-04 Thread Roger Seielstad
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 11:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ORB UK - cross post - long Note that relays are specifically mentioned in 2821. In the discussion

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2001-12-04 Thread Paul Cummins
The issue is that your testing methodology, specifically in requiring relay denial prior to the DATA command, ignores both the spirit and the letter of RFC 2821. While it is logical, and potentially beneficial, to reject mail as early in the transaction as possible, there is no requirement

RE: ORB UK - cross post - long

2001-12-04 Thread Blunt, James H (Jim)
]] Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 12:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ORB UK - cross post - long The issue is that your testing methodology, specifically in requiring relay denial prior to the DATA command, ignores both the spirit and the letter of RFC 2821. While it is logical