RE: Stopping Spam

2002-07-29 Thread Orin Rehorst

I believe we will go with Brightmail. We want the user to receive all mail
with suspected spam marked as such. We don't want IS taking on the cop role
because some legitimate business mail may get blocked. The user can have the
emails marked suspect spam automatically deleted if they choose.

Regards,
Orin

Orin Rehorst
Port of Houston Authority
(Largest U.S. port in foreign tonnage)
e-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone:  (713)670-2443
Fax:  (713)670-2457
TOPAS web site: www.homestead.com/topas/topas.html

 -Original Message-
From:   Massey, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Wednesday, July 24, 2002 2:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: Stopping Spam

We use MailMarshal (www.marshalsoftware.com) and so far have been very
pleased. I admit I spent about a weeks worth of time adjusting and adding my
own filters but now it's running like a champ. It's stopping a large
percentage of the junk mail that comes this way.

I looked at Praetor, Mimesweeper, Mail Essentials, Mail-Gear, and a few
others by other AV vendors. For our environment and use, MailMarshal came
out on top. Offering the most features and flexibility over the other
packages.

Good Luck,
David-

-Original Message-
From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 1:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stopping Spam


Thanks Chris. I did download the eval version to test before I purchase.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 2:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stopping Spam


Purchasing anything without first extensive testing in the lab would, IMHO
be a bad idea.

 -Original Message-
 From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 12:54 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
 
 Thanks Jeremy...
 I was reading up on CMS's Praetor and it seems perfect for the job. Has
 anyone had any bad experiences with it before I go ahead and purchase ?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jeremy I. Shannon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 1:45 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
 
 
 I use and like CMS's Praetor.  There is some administration to it, but it
 is
 worth it if your CEO doesn't get animal porn emails anymore.  Check it out
 at http://www.cmsconnect.com.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 1:21 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
 
 
 Yes I am looking for server based.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: EXTERN Hlabse Tony (Tek Systems;RBNA/CIT1)
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 1:23 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
 
 
 Sunbelt makes one. But I think like most of them they are client based. If
 your looking for server based I don't have any options for you.
 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 12:12 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
 
 
 My question: Is there a 3rd party tool anyone recommends to block spam ?
 I'm
 looking for something for the Microsoft Windows platform. I found plenty
 for
 UNIX and LINUX...
 In answer to your question:
 The TURF Directory has to be created and does not exist by default. The
 default entry is C:\Turfdir but you can change the path by altering a
 registry entry. Look on the MS KBase for this registry entry..don't
 remember
 it.
 Don't forget to restart the IMS as well as the IS after you do change the
 message filtering options and after you create the folder.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Rob Hackney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 12:01 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
 
 
 it's pretty difficult to stop spam as such - precisely for the reason
 you have discovered: domains keep changing...
 you really need a dedicated 3rd party solution for this as ex is not
 good enough as is.
 q2 - have a look at http://spam.abuse.net/
 as for q3 - don't know and can't remember as not using ex5.5
 Rob
 be lucky...
 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Patti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 24 July 2002 15:59
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Stopping Spam
 
 
 I have 3 questions. I know I can block Spam from a particular sender, or
 block all the senders from a certain domain, using Message Filting in
 Exchange 5.5.  I got a list of individual address from the Junk senders
 list and Adult senders list but the domains all seem to be different.
 
 1. Do I have to put them individually or can I import them some how?
 2. Also does anyone have a list of Spam domains that I can put in, in
 addition to the address I already have?
 3. Where is the folder called Turf suppose to be in MS Exchange 5.5,
 where all of the filtered e-mails are suppose to go. I

RE: Stopping Spam

2002-07-29 Thread Rob Hackney

Messagelabs have just bought out a new hosted product which could be
useful

-Original Message-
From: Orin Rehorst [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 29 July 2002 16:44
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stopping Spam


I believe we will go with Brightmail. We want the user to receive all
mail
with suspected spam marked as such. We don't want IS taking on the cop
role
because some legitimate business mail may get blocked. The user can have
the
emails marked suspect spam automatically deleted if they choose.

Regards,
Orin

Orin Rehorst
Port of Houston Authority
(Largest U.S. port in foreign tonnage)
e-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone:  (713)670-2443
Fax:  (713)670-2457
TOPAS web site: www.homestead.com/topas/topas.html

 -Original Message-
From:   Massey, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Wednesday, July 24, 2002 2:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: Stopping Spam

We use MailMarshal (www.marshalsoftware.com) and so far have been very
pleased. I admit I spent about a weeks worth of time adjusting and
adding my
own filters but now it's running like a champ. It's stopping a large
percentage of the junk mail that comes this way.

I looked at Praetor, Mimesweeper, Mail Essentials, Mail-Gear, and a few
others by other AV vendors. For our environment and use, MailMarshal
came
out on top. Offering the most features and flexibility over the other
packages.

Good Luck,
David-

-Original Message-
From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 1:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stopping Spam


Thanks Chris. I did download the eval version to test before I purchase.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 2:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stopping Spam


Purchasing anything without first extensive testing in the lab would,
IMHO
be a bad idea.

 -Original Message-
 From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 12:54 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
 
 Thanks Jeremy...
 I was reading up on CMS's Praetor and it seems perfect for the job.
Has
 anyone had any bad experiences with it before I go ahead and purchase
?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jeremy I. Shannon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 1:45 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
 
 
 I use and like CMS's Praetor.  There is some administration to it, but
it
 is
 worth it if your CEO doesn't get animal porn emails anymore.  Check it
out
 at http://www.cmsconnect.com.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 1:21 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
 
 
 Yes I am looking for server based.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: EXTERN Hlabse Tony (Tek Systems;RBNA/CIT1)
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 1:23 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
 
 
 Sunbelt makes one. But I think like most of them they are client
based. If
 your looking for server based I don't have any options for you.
 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 12:12 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
 
 
 My question: Is there a 3rd party tool anyone recommends to block spam
?
 I'm
 looking for something for the Microsoft Windows platform. I found
plenty
 for
 UNIX and LINUX...
 In answer to your question:
 The TURF Directory has to be created and does not exist by default.
The
 default entry is C:\Turfdir but you can change the path by altering a
 registry entry. Look on the MS KBase for this registry entry..don't
 remember
 it.
 Don't forget to restart the IMS as well as the IS after you do change
the
 message filtering options and after you create the folder.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Rob Hackney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 12:01 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
 
 
 it's pretty difficult to stop spam as such - precisely for the reason
 you have discovered: domains keep changing...
 you really need a dedicated 3rd party solution for this as ex is not
 good enough as is.
 q2 - have a look at http://spam.abuse.net/
 as for q3 - don't know and can't remember as not using ex5.5
 Rob
 be lucky...
 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Patti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 24 July 2002 15:59
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Stopping Spam
 
 
 I have 3 questions. I know I can block Spam from a particular sender,
or
 block all the senders from a certain domain, using Message Filting in
 Exchange 5.5.  I got a list of individual address from the Junk
senders
 list and Adult senders list but the domains all seem to be different.
 
 1. Do I have to put them individually or can I import them some how?
 2. Also

RE: Stopping Spam

2002-07-29 Thread Jonathan Beeler

We're currently evaluating postini.  So far it works pretty good.  Has a
lot more graunlarity than Message labs.  We're still evaluating, but it's
a product worth considering.




The only thing the Marshall wont stop are them Miss Kitty emails...
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Massey, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 3:42 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
 
 
 We use MailMarshal (www.marshalsoftware.com) and so far have been very
 pleased. I admit I spent about a weeks worth of time adjusting and adding my
 own filters but now it's running like a champ. It's stopping a large
 percentage of the junk mail that comes this way.
 
 I looked at Praetor, Mimesweeper, Mail Essentials, Mail-Gear, and a few
 others by other AV vendors. For our environment and use, MailMarshal came
 out on top. Offering the most features and flexibility over the other
 packages.
 
 Good Luck,
 David-
 
 -Original Message-
 From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 1:50 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
 
 
 Thanks Chris. I did download the eval version to test before I purchase.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 2:26 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
 
 
 Purchasing anything without first extensive testing in the lab would, IMHO
 be a bad idea.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 12:54 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
  
  Thanks Jeremy...
  I was reading up on CMS's Praetor and it seems perfect for the job. Has
  anyone had any bad experiences with it before I go ahead and purchase ?
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Jeremy I. Shannon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 1:45 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
  
  
  I use and like CMS's Praetor.  There is some administration to it, but it
  is
  worth it if your CEO doesn't get animal porn emails anymore.  Check it out
  at http://www.cmsconnect.com.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 1:21 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
  
  
  Yes I am looking for server based.
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: EXTERN Hlabse Tony (Tek Systems;RBNA/CIT1)
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 1:23 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
  
  
  Sunbelt makes one. But I think like most of them they are client based. If
  your looking for server based I don't have any options for you.
  http://www.sunbelt-software.com/
  
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 12:12 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
  
  
  My question: Is there a 3rd party tool anyone recommends to block spam ?
  I'm
  looking for something for the Microsoft Windows platform. I found plenty
  for
  UNIX and LINUX...
  In answer to your question:
  The TURF Directory has to be created and does not exist by default. The
  default entry is C:\Turfdir but you can change the path by altering a
  registry entry. Look on the MS KBase for this registry entry..don't
  remember
  it.
  Don't forget to restart the IMS as well as the IS after you do change the
  message filtering options and after you create the folder.
  
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Rob Hackney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 12:01 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
  
  
  it's pretty difficult to stop spam as such - precisely for the reason
  you have discovered: domains keep changing...
  you really need a dedicated 3rd party solution for this as ex is not
  good enough as is.
  q2 - have a look at http://spam.abuse.net/
  as for q3 - don't know and can't remember as not using ex5.5
  Rob
  be lucky...
  -Original Message-
  From: Paul Patti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: 24 July 2002 15:59
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Stopping Spam
  
  
  I have 3 questions. I know I can block Spam from a particular sender, or
  block all the senders from a certain domain, using Message Filting in
  Exchange 5.5.  I got a list of individual address from the Junk senders
  list and Adult senders list but the domains all seem to be different.
  
  1. Do I have to put them individually or can I import them some how?
  2. Also does anyone have a list of Spam domains that I can put in, in
  addition to the address I already have?
  3. Where is the folder called Turf suppose to be in MS Exchange 5.5,
  where all of the filtered e-mails are suppose to go. I did a search for
  it
  and it didn't find it.
  
  ANY help would be greatly appreciated.
  Thanks
  Paul

RE: Stopping Spam

2002-07-29 Thread Andy David

Does postini support the cereal interface?


-Original Message-
From: Jonathan Beeler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 3:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stopping Spam


We're currently evaluating postini.  So far it works pretty good.  Has a
lot more graunlarity than Message labs.  We're still evaluating, but it's
a product worth considering.




The only thing the Marshall wont stop are them Miss Kitty emails...
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Massey, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 3:42 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
 
 
 We use MailMarshal (www.marshalsoftware.com) and so far have been very
 pleased. I admit I spent about a weeks worth of time adjusting and adding
my
 own filters but now it's running like a champ. It's stopping a large
 percentage of the junk mail that comes this way.
 
 I looked at Praetor, Mimesweeper, Mail Essentials, Mail-Gear, and a few
 others by other AV vendors. For our environment and use, MailMarshal came
 out on top. Offering the most features and flexibility over the other
 packages.
 
 Good Luck,
 David-
 
 -Original Message-
 From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 1:50 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
 
 
 Thanks Chris. I did download the eval version to test before I purchase.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 2:26 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
 
 
 Purchasing anything without first extensive testing in the lab would, IMHO
 be a bad idea.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 12:54 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
  
  Thanks Jeremy...
  I was reading up on CMS's Praetor and it seems perfect for the job. Has
  anyone had any bad experiences with it before I go ahead and purchase ?
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Jeremy I. Shannon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 1:45 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
  
  
  I use and like CMS's Praetor.  There is some administration to it, but
it
  is
  worth it if your CEO doesn't get animal porn emails anymore.  Check it
out
  at http://www.cmsconnect.com.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 1:21 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
  
  
  Yes I am looking for server based.
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: EXTERN Hlabse Tony (Tek Systems;RBNA/CIT1)
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 1:23 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
  
  
  Sunbelt makes one. But I think like most of them they are client based.
If
  your looking for server based I don't have any options for you.
  http://www.sunbelt-software.com/
  
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 12:12 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
  
  
  My question: Is there a 3rd party tool anyone recommends to block spam ?
  I'm
  looking for something for the Microsoft Windows platform. I found plenty
  for
  UNIX and LINUX...
  In answer to your question:
  The TURF Directory has to be created and does not exist by default. The
  default entry is C:\Turfdir but you can change the path by altering a
  registry entry. Look on the MS KBase for this registry entry..don't
  remember
  it.
  Don't forget to restart the IMS as well as the IS after you do change
the
  message filtering options and after you create the folder.
  
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Rob Hackney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 12:01 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
  
  
  it's pretty difficult to stop spam as such - precisely for the reason
  you have discovered: domains keep changing...
  you really need a dedicated 3rd party solution for this as ex is not
  good enough as is.
  q2 - have a look at http://spam.abuse.net/
  as for q3 - don't know and can't remember as not using ex5.5
  Rob
  be lucky...
  -Original Message-
  From: Paul Patti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: 24 July 2002 15:59
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Stopping Spam
  
  
  I have 3 questions. I know I can block Spam from a particular sender, or
  block all the senders from a certain domain, using Message Filting in
  Exchange 5.5.  I got a list of individual address from the Junk senders
  list and Adult senders list but the domains all seem to be different.
  
  1. Do I have to put them individually or can I import them some how?
  2. Also does anyone have a list of Spam domains that I can put in, in
  addition to the address I already have?
  3. Where is the folder called Turf suppose

RE: Stopping Spam

2002-07-29 Thread Jonathan Beeler

I'm not sure what the cereal interface is?
What is it for my own knowledge?

 Does postini support the cereal interface?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jonathan Beeler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 3:44 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
 
 
 We're currently evaluating postini.  So far it works pretty good.  Has a
 lot more graunlarity than Message labs.  We're still evaluating, but it's
 a product worth considering.
 
 
 
 
 The only thing the Marshall wont stop are them Miss Kitty emails...
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Massey, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 3:42 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
  
  
  We use MailMarshal (www.marshalsoftware.com) and so far have been very
  pleased. I admit I spent about a weeks worth of time adjusting and adding
 my
  own filters but now it's running like a champ. It's stopping a large
  percentage of the junk mail that comes this way.
  
  I looked at Praetor, Mimesweeper, Mail Essentials, Mail-Gear, and a few
  others by other AV vendors. For our environment and use, MailMarshal came
  out on top. Offering the most features and flexibility over the other
  packages.
  
  Good Luck,
  David-
  
  -Original Message-
  From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 1:50 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
  
  
  Thanks Chris. I did download the eval version to test before I purchase.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 2:26 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
  
  
  Purchasing anything without first extensive testing in the lab would, IMHO
  be a bad idea.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 12:54 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
   
   Thanks Jeremy...
   I was reading up on CMS's Praetor and it seems perfect for the job. Has
   anyone had any bad experiences with it before I go ahead and purchase ?
   
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Jeremy I. Shannon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 1:45 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
   
   
   I use and like CMS's Praetor.  There is some administration to it, but
 it
   is
   worth it if your CEO doesn't get animal porn emails anymore.  Check it
 out
   at http://www.cmsconnect.com.
   
   -Original Message-
   From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 1:21 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
   
   
   Yes I am looking for server based.
   
   
   -Original Message-
   From: EXTERN Hlabse Tony (Tek Systems;RBNA/CIT1)
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 1:23 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
   
   
   Sunbelt makes one. But I think like most of them they are client based.
 If
   your looking for server based I don't have any options for you.
   http://www.sunbelt-software.com/
   
   
   
   -Original Message-
   From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 12:12 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
   
   
   My question: Is there a 3rd party tool anyone recommends to block spam ?
   I'm
   looking for something for the Microsoft Windows platform. I found plenty
   for
   UNIX and LINUX...
   In answer to your question:
   The TURF Directory has to be created and does not exist by default. The
   default entry is C:\Turfdir but you can change the path by altering a
   registry entry. Look on the MS KBase for this registry entry..don't
   remember
   it.
   Don't forget to restart the IMS as well as the IS after you do change
 the
   message filtering options and after you create the folder.
   
   
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Rob Hackney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 12:01 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
   
   
   it's pretty difficult to stop spam as such - precisely for the reason
   you have discovered: domains keep changing...
   you really need a dedicated 3rd party solution for this as ex is not
   good enough as is.
   q2 - have a look at http://spam.abuse.net/
   as for q3 - don't know and can't remember as not using ex5.5
   Rob
   be lucky...
   -Original Message-
   From: Paul Patti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: 24 July 2002 15:59
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: Stopping Spam
   
   
   I have 3 questions. I know I can block Spam from a particular sender, or
   block all the senders from a certain domain, using Message Filting in
   Exchange 5.5.  I got a list of individual address from the Junk senders
   list and Adult senders list but the domains all seem to be different

RE: Stopping Spam

2002-07-29 Thread Andy David

Its typically 2 scoops of raisins.


-Original Message-
From: Jonathan Beeler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 4:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stopping Spam


I'm not sure what the cereal interface is?
What is it for my own knowledge?

 Does postini support the cereal interface?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jonathan Beeler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 3:44 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
 
 
 We're currently evaluating postini.  So far it works pretty good.  Has a
 lot more graunlarity than Message labs.  We're still evaluating, but it's
 a product worth considering.
 
 
 
 
 The only thing the Marshall wont stop are them Miss Kitty emails...
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Massey, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 3:42 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
  
  
  We use MailMarshal (www.marshalsoftware.com) and so far have been very
  pleased. I admit I spent about a weeks worth of time adjusting and
adding
 my
  own filters but now it's running like a champ. It's stopping a large
  percentage of the junk mail that comes this way.
  
  I looked at Praetor, Mimesweeper, Mail Essentials, Mail-Gear, and a few
  others by other AV vendors. For our environment and use, MailMarshal
came
  out on top. Offering the most features and flexibility over the other
  packages.
  
  Good Luck,
  David-
  
  -Original Message-
  From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 1:50 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
  
  
  Thanks Chris. I did download the eval version to test before I purchase.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 2:26 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
  
  
  Purchasing anything without first extensive testing in the lab would,
IMHO
  be a bad idea.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 12:54 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
   
   Thanks Jeremy...
   I was reading up on CMS's Praetor and it seems perfect for the job.
Has
   anyone had any bad experiences with it before I go ahead and purchase
?
   
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Jeremy I. Shannon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 1:45 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
   
   
   I use and like CMS's Praetor.  There is some administration to it, but
 it
   is
   worth it if your CEO doesn't get animal porn emails anymore.  Check it
 out
   at http://www.cmsconnect.com.
   
   -Original Message-
   From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 1:21 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
   
   
   Yes I am looking for server based.
   
   
   -Original Message-
   From: EXTERN Hlabse Tony (Tek Systems;RBNA/CIT1)
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 1:23 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
   
   
   Sunbelt makes one. But I think like most of them they are client
based.
 If
   your looking for server based I don't have any options for you.
   http://www.sunbelt-software.com/
   
   
   
   -Original Message-
   From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 12:12 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
   
   
   My question: Is there a 3rd party tool anyone recommends to block spam
?
   I'm
   looking for something for the Microsoft Windows platform. I found
plenty
   for
   UNIX and LINUX...
   In answer to your question:
   The TURF Directory has to be created and does not exist by default.
The
   default entry is C:\Turfdir but you can change the path by altering a
   registry entry. Look on the MS KBase for this registry entry..don't
   remember
   it.
   Don't forget to restart the IMS as well as the IS after you do change
 the
   message filtering options and after you create the folder.
   
   
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Rob Hackney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 12:01 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
   
   
   it's pretty difficult to stop spam as such - precisely for the reason
   you have discovered: domains keep changing...
   you really need a dedicated 3rd party solution for this as ex is not
   good enough as is.
   q2 - have a look at http://spam.abuse.net/
   as for q3 - don't know and can't remember as not using ex5.5
   Rob
   be lucky...
   -Original Message-
   From: Paul Patti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: 24 July 2002 15:59
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: Stopping Spam
   
   
   I have 3 questions. I know I can block Spam from a particular sender,
or
   block all

RE: Stopping Spam

2002-07-24 Thread Rob Hackney

it's pretty difficult to stop spam as such - precisely for the reason
you have discovered: domains keep changing...
you really need a dedicated 3rd party solution for this as ex is not
good enough as is.
q2 - have a look at http://spam.abuse.net/
as for q3 - don't know and can't remember as not using ex5.5
Rob
be lucky...
-Original Message-
From: Paul Patti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 24 July 2002 15:59
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Stopping Spam


I have 3 questions. I know I can block Spam from a particular sender, or
block all the senders from a certain domain, using Message Filting in
Exchange 5.5.  I got a list of individual address from the Junk senders
list and Adult senders list but the domains all seem to be different.

1. Do I have to put them individually or can I import them some how?
2. Also does anyone have a list of Spam domains that I can put in, in
addition to the address I already have?
3. Where is the folder called Turf suppose to be in MS Exchange 5.5,
where all of the filtered e-mails are suppose to go. I did a search for
it
and it didn't find it.

ANY help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Paul

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RE: Stopping Spam

2002-07-24 Thread RBHATIA

My question: Is there a 3rd party tool anyone recommends to block spam ? I'm
looking for something for the Microsoft Windows platform. I found plenty for
UNIX and LINUX...
In answer to your question:
The TURF Directory has to be created and does not exist by default. The
default entry is C:\Turfdir but you can change the path by altering a
registry entry. Look on the MS KBase for this registry entry..don't remember
it. 
Don't forget to restart the IMS as well as the IS after you do change the
message filtering options and after you create the folder.



-Original Message-
From: Rob Hackney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 12:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stopping Spam


it's pretty difficult to stop spam as such - precisely for the reason
you have discovered: domains keep changing...
you really need a dedicated 3rd party solution for this as ex is not
good enough as is.
q2 - have a look at http://spam.abuse.net/
as for q3 - don't know and can't remember as not using ex5.5
Rob
be lucky...
-Original Message-
From: Paul Patti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 24 July 2002 15:59
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Stopping Spam


I have 3 questions. I know I can block Spam from a particular sender, or
block all the senders from a certain domain, using Message Filting in
Exchange 5.5.  I got a list of individual address from the Junk senders
list and Adult senders list but the domains all seem to be different.

1. Do I have to put them individually or can I import them some how?
2. Also does anyone have a list of Spam domains that I can put in, in
addition to the address I already have?
3. Where is the folder called Turf suppose to be in MS Exchange 5.5,
where all of the filtered e-mails are suppose to go. I did a search for
it
and it didn't find it.

ANY help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Paul

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RE: Stopping Spam

2002-07-24 Thread EXTERN Hlabse Tony (Tek Systems;RBNA/CIT1)

Sunbelt makes one. But I think like most of them they are client based. If
your looking for server based I don't have any options for you.
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/



-Original Message-
From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 12:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stopping Spam


My question: Is there a 3rd party tool anyone recommends to block spam ? I'm
looking for something for the Microsoft Windows platform. I found plenty for
UNIX and LINUX...
In answer to your question:
The TURF Directory has to be created and does not exist by default. The
default entry is C:\Turfdir but you can change the path by altering a
registry entry. Look on the MS KBase for this registry entry..don't remember
it. 
Don't forget to restart the IMS as well as the IS after you do change the
message filtering options and after you create the folder.



-Original Message-
From: Rob Hackney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 12:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stopping Spam


it's pretty difficult to stop spam as such - precisely for the reason
you have discovered: domains keep changing...
you really need a dedicated 3rd party solution for this as ex is not
good enough as is.
q2 - have a look at http://spam.abuse.net/
as for q3 - don't know and can't remember as not using ex5.5
Rob
be lucky...
-Original Message-
From: Paul Patti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 24 July 2002 15:59
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Stopping Spam


I have 3 questions. I know I can block Spam from a particular sender, or
block all the senders from a certain domain, using Message Filting in
Exchange 5.5.  I got a list of individual address from the Junk senders
list and Adult senders list but the domains all seem to be different.

1. Do I have to put them individually or can I import them some how?
2. Also does anyone have a list of Spam domains that I can put in, in
addition to the address I already have?
3. Where is the folder called Turf suppose to be in MS Exchange 5.5,
where all of the filtered e-mails are suppose to go. I did a search for
it
and it didn't find it.

ANY help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Paul

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RE: Stopping Spam

2002-07-24 Thread RBHATIA

Yes I am looking for server based.


-Original Message-
From: EXTERN Hlabse Tony (Tek Systems;RBNA/CIT1)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 1:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stopping Spam


Sunbelt makes one. But I think like most of them they are client based. If
your looking for server based I don't have any options for you.
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/



-Original Message-
From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 12:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stopping Spam


My question: Is there a 3rd party tool anyone recommends to block spam ? I'm
looking for something for the Microsoft Windows platform. I found plenty for
UNIX and LINUX...
In answer to your question:
The TURF Directory has to be created and does not exist by default. The
default entry is C:\Turfdir but you can change the path by altering a
registry entry. Look on the MS KBase for this registry entry..don't remember
it. 
Don't forget to restart the IMS as well as the IS after you do change the
message filtering options and after you create the folder.



-Original Message-
From: Rob Hackney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 12:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stopping Spam


it's pretty difficult to stop spam as such - precisely for the reason
you have discovered: domains keep changing...
you really need a dedicated 3rd party solution for this as ex is not
good enough as is.
q2 - have a look at http://spam.abuse.net/
as for q3 - don't know and can't remember as not using ex5.5
Rob
be lucky...
-Original Message-
From: Paul Patti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 24 July 2002 15:59
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Stopping Spam


I have 3 questions. I know I can block Spam from a particular sender, or
block all the senders from a certain domain, using Message Filting in
Exchange 5.5.  I got a list of individual address from the Junk senders
list and Adult senders list but the domains all seem to be different.

1. Do I have to put them individually or can I import them some how?
2. Also does anyone have a list of Spam domains that I can put in, in
addition to the address I already have?
3. Where is the folder called Turf suppose to be in MS Exchange 5.5,
where all of the filtered e-mails are suppose to go. I did a search for
it
and it didn't find it.

ANY help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Paul

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RE: Stopping Spam

2002-07-24 Thread Martin Blackstone

MailMarshal and MailSweeper come to mind

-Original Message-
From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 10:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stopping Spam


Yes I am looking for server based.


-Original Message-
From: EXTERN Hlabse Tony (Tek Systems;RBNA/CIT1)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 1:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stopping Spam


Sunbelt makes one. But I think like most of them they are client based. If
your looking for server based I don't have any options for you.
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/



-Original Message-
From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 12:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stopping Spam


My question: Is there a 3rd party tool anyone recommends to block spam ? I'm
looking for something for the Microsoft Windows platform. I found plenty for
UNIX and LINUX... In answer to your question: The TURF Directory has to be
created and does not exist by default. The default entry is C:\Turfdir but
you can change the path by altering a registry entry. Look on the MS KBase
for this registry entry..don't remember it. 
Don't forget to restart the IMS as well as the IS after you do change the
message filtering options and after you create the folder.



-Original Message-
From: Rob Hackney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 12:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stopping Spam


it's pretty difficult to stop spam as such - precisely for the reason you
have discovered: domains keep changing... you really need a dedicated 3rd
party solution for this as ex is not good enough as is. q2 - have a look at
http://spam.abuse.net/ as for q3 - don't know and can't remember as not
using ex5.5 Rob be lucky... -Original Message-
From: Paul Patti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 24 July 2002 15:59
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Stopping Spam


I have 3 questions. I know I can block Spam from a particular sender, or
block all the senders from a certain domain, using Message Filting in
Exchange 5.5.  I got a list of individual address from the Junk senders list
and Adult senders list but the domains all seem to be different.

1. Do I have to put them individually or can I import them some how? 2.
Also does anyone have a list of Spam domains that I can put in, in addition
to the address I already have? 3. Where is the folder called Turf suppose
to be in MS Exchange 5.5, where all of the filtered e-mails are suppose to
go. I did a search for it and it didn't find it.

ANY help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Paul

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RE: Stopping Spam

2002-07-24 Thread Jeremy I. Shannon

I use and like CMS's Praetor.  There is some administration to it, but it is worth it 
if your CEO doesn't get animal porn emails anymore.  Check it out at 
http://www.cmsconnect.com.

-Original Message-
From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 1:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stopping Spam


Yes I am looking for server based.


-Original Message-
From: EXTERN Hlabse Tony (Tek Systems;RBNA/CIT1)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 1:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stopping Spam


Sunbelt makes one. But I think like most of them they are client based. If
your looking for server based I don't have any options for you.
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/



-Original Message-
From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 12:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stopping Spam


My question: Is there a 3rd party tool anyone recommends to block spam ? I'm
looking for something for the Microsoft Windows platform. I found plenty for
UNIX and LINUX...
In answer to your question:
The TURF Directory has to be created and does not exist by default. The
default entry is C:\Turfdir but you can change the path by altering a
registry entry. Look on the MS KBase for this registry entry..don't remember
it. 
Don't forget to restart the IMS as well as the IS after you do change the
message filtering options and after you create the folder.



-Original Message-
From: Rob Hackney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 12:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stopping Spam


it's pretty difficult to stop spam as such - precisely for the reason
you have discovered: domains keep changing...
you really need a dedicated 3rd party solution for this as ex is not
good enough as is.
q2 - have a look at http://spam.abuse.net/
as for q3 - don't know and can't remember as not using ex5.5
Rob
be lucky...
-Original Message-
From: Paul Patti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 24 July 2002 15:59
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Stopping Spam


I have 3 questions. I know I can block Spam from a particular sender, or
block all the senders from a certain domain, using Message Filting in
Exchange 5.5.  I got a list of individual address from the Junk senders
list and Adult senders list but the domains all seem to be different.

1. Do I have to put them individually or can I import them some how?
2. Also does anyone have a list of Spam domains that I can put in, in
addition to the address I already have?
3. Where is the folder called Turf suppose to be in MS Exchange 5.5,
where all of the filtered e-mails are suppose to go. I did a search for
it
and it didn't find it.

ANY help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Paul

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RE: Stopping Spam

2002-07-24 Thread RBHATIA

Thanks Jeremy...
I was reading up on CMS's Praetor and it seems perfect for the job. Has
anyone had any bad experiences with it before I go ahead and purchase ?


-Original Message-
From: Jeremy I. Shannon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 1:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stopping Spam


I use and like CMS's Praetor.  There is some administration to it, but it is
worth it if your CEO doesn't get animal porn emails anymore.  Check it out
at http://www.cmsconnect.com.

-Original Message-
From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 1:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stopping Spam


Yes I am looking for server based.


-Original Message-
From: EXTERN Hlabse Tony (Tek Systems;RBNA/CIT1)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 1:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stopping Spam


Sunbelt makes one. But I think like most of them they are client based. If
your looking for server based I don't have any options for you.
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/



-Original Message-
From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 12:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stopping Spam


My question: Is there a 3rd party tool anyone recommends to block spam ? I'm
looking for something for the Microsoft Windows platform. I found plenty for
UNIX and LINUX...
In answer to your question:
The TURF Directory has to be created and does not exist by default. The
default entry is C:\Turfdir but you can change the path by altering a
registry entry. Look on the MS KBase for this registry entry..don't remember
it. 
Don't forget to restart the IMS as well as the IS after you do change the
message filtering options and after you create the folder.



-Original Message-
From: Rob Hackney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 12:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stopping Spam


it's pretty difficult to stop spam as such - precisely for the reason
you have discovered: domains keep changing...
you really need a dedicated 3rd party solution for this as ex is not
good enough as is.
q2 - have a look at http://spam.abuse.net/
as for q3 - don't know and can't remember as not using ex5.5
Rob
be lucky...
-Original Message-
From: Paul Patti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 24 July 2002 15:59
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Stopping Spam


I have 3 questions. I know I can block Spam from a particular sender, or
block all the senders from a certain domain, using Message Filting in
Exchange 5.5.  I got a list of individual address from the Junk senders
list and Adult senders list but the domains all seem to be different.

1. Do I have to put them individually or can I import them some how?
2. Also does anyone have a list of Spam domains that I can put in, in
addition to the address I already have?
3. Where is the folder called Turf suppose to be in MS Exchange 5.5,
where all of the filtered e-mails are suppose to go. I did a search for
it
and it didn't find it.

ANY help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Paul

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RE: Stopping Spam

2002-07-24 Thread Chris Scharff

Purchasing anything without first extensive testing in the lab would, IMHO
be a bad idea.

 -Original Message-
 From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 12:54 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
 
 Thanks Jeremy...
 I was reading up on CMS's Praetor and it seems perfect for the job. Has
 anyone had any bad experiences with it before I go ahead and purchase ?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jeremy I. Shannon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 1:45 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
 
 
 I use and like CMS's Praetor.  There is some administration to it, but it
 is
 worth it if your CEO doesn't get animal porn emails anymore.  Check it out
 at http://www.cmsconnect.com.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 1:21 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
 
 
 Yes I am looking for server based.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: EXTERN Hlabse Tony (Tek Systems;RBNA/CIT1)
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 1:23 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
 
 
 Sunbelt makes one. But I think like most of them they are client based. If
 your looking for server based I don't have any options for you.
 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 12:12 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
 
 
 My question: Is there a 3rd party tool anyone recommends to block spam ?
 I'm
 looking for something for the Microsoft Windows platform. I found plenty
 for
 UNIX and LINUX...
 In answer to your question:
 The TURF Directory has to be created and does not exist by default. The
 default entry is C:\Turfdir but you can change the path by altering a
 registry entry. Look on the MS KBase for this registry entry..don't
 remember
 it.
 Don't forget to restart the IMS as well as the IS after you do change the
 message filtering options and after you create the folder.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Rob Hackney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 12:01 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
 
 
 it's pretty difficult to stop spam as such - precisely for the reason
 you have discovered: domains keep changing...
 you really need a dedicated 3rd party solution for this as ex is not
 good enough as is.
 q2 - have a look at http://spam.abuse.net/
 as for q3 - don't know and can't remember as not using ex5.5
 Rob
 be lucky...
 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Patti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 24 July 2002 15:59
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Stopping Spam
 
 
 I have 3 questions. I know I can block Spam from a particular sender, or
 block all the senders from a certain domain, using Message Filting in
 Exchange 5.5.  I got a list of individual address from the Junk senders
 list and Adult senders list but the domains all seem to be different.
 
 1. Do I have to put them individually or can I import them some how?
 2. Also does anyone have a list of Spam domains that I can put in, in
 addition to the address I already have?
 3. Where is the folder called Turf suppose to be in MS Exchange 5.5,
 where all of the filtered e-mails are suppose to go. I did a search for
 it
 and it didn't find it.
 
 ANY help would be greatly appreciated.
 Thanks
 Paul
 
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RE: Stopping Spam

2002-07-24 Thread RBHATIA

Thanks Chris. I did download the eval version to test before I purchase.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 2:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stopping Spam


Purchasing anything without first extensive testing in the lab would, IMHO
be a bad idea.

 -Original Message-
 From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 12:54 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
 
 Thanks Jeremy...
 I was reading up on CMS's Praetor and it seems perfect for the job. Has
 anyone had any bad experiences with it before I go ahead and purchase ?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jeremy I. Shannon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 1:45 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
 
 
 I use and like CMS's Praetor.  There is some administration to it, but it
 is
 worth it if your CEO doesn't get animal porn emails anymore.  Check it out
 at http://www.cmsconnect.com.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 1:21 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
 
 
 Yes I am looking for server based.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: EXTERN Hlabse Tony (Tek Systems;RBNA/CIT1)
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 1:23 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
 
 
 Sunbelt makes one. But I think like most of them they are client based. If
 your looking for server based I don't have any options for you.
 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 12:12 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
 
 
 My question: Is there a 3rd party tool anyone recommends to block spam ?
 I'm
 looking for something for the Microsoft Windows platform. I found plenty
 for
 UNIX and LINUX...
 In answer to your question:
 The TURF Directory has to be created and does not exist by default. The
 default entry is C:\Turfdir but you can change the path by altering a
 registry entry. Look on the MS KBase for this registry entry..don't
 remember
 it.
 Don't forget to restart the IMS as well as the IS after you do change the
 message filtering options and after you create the folder.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Rob Hackney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 12:01 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
 
 
 it's pretty difficult to stop spam as such - precisely for the reason
 you have discovered: domains keep changing...
 you really need a dedicated 3rd party solution for this as ex is not
 good enough as is.
 q2 - have a look at http://spam.abuse.net/
 as for q3 - don't know and can't remember as not using ex5.5
 Rob
 be lucky...
 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Patti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 24 July 2002 15:59
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Stopping Spam
 
 
 I have 3 questions. I know I can block Spam from a particular sender, or
 block all the senders from a certain domain, using Message Filting in
 Exchange 5.5.  I got a list of individual address from the Junk senders
 list and Adult senders list but the domains all seem to be different.
 
 1. Do I have to put them individually or can I import them some how?
 2. Also does anyone have a list of Spam domains that I can put in, in
 addition to the address I already have?
 3. Where is the folder called Turf suppose to be in MS Exchange 5.5,
 where all of the filtered e-mails are suppose to go. I did a search for
 it
 and it didn't find it.
 
 ANY help would be greatly appreciated.
 Thanks
 Paul
 
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RE: Stopping Spam

2002-07-24 Thread Massey, David

We use MailMarshal (www.marshalsoftware.com) and so far have been very
pleased. I admit I spent about a weeks worth of time adjusting and adding my
own filters but now it's running like a champ. It's stopping a large
percentage of the junk mail that comes this way.

I looked at Praetor, Mimesweeper, Mail Essentials, Mail-Gear, and a few
others by other AV vendors. For our environment and use, MailMarshal came
out on top. Offering the most features and flexibility over the other
packages.

Good Luck,
David-

-Original Message-
From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 1:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stopping Spam


Thanks Chris. I did download the eval version to test before I purchase.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 2:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stopping Spam


Purchasing anything without first extensive testing in the lab would, IMHO
be a bad idea.

 -Original Message-
 From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 12:54 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
 
 Thanks Jeremy...
 I was reading up on CMS's Praetor and it seems perfect for the job. Has
 anyone had any bad experiences with it before I go ahead and purchase ?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jeremy I. Shannon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 1:45 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
 
 
 I use and like CMS's Praetor.  There is some administration to it, but it
 is
 worth it if your CEO doesn't get animal porn emails anymore.  Check it out
 at http://www.cmsconnect.com.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 1:21 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
 
 
 Yes I am looking for server based.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: EXTERN Hlabse Tony (Tek Systems;RBNA/CIT1)
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 1:23 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
 
 
 Sunbelt makes one. But I think like most of them they are client based. If
 your looking for server based I don't have any options for you.
 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 12:12 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
 
 
 My question: Is there a 3rd party tool anyone recommends to block spam ?
 I'm
 looking for something for the Microsoft Windows platform. I found plenty
 for
 UNIX and LINUX...
 In answer to your question:
 The TURF Directory has to be created and does not exist by default. The
 default entry is C:\Turfdir but you can change the path by altering a
 registry entry. Look on the MS KBase for this registry entry..don't
 remember
 it.
 Don't forget to restart the IMS as well as the IS after you do change the
 message filtering options and after you create the folder.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Rob Hackney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 12:01 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
 
 
 it's pretty difficult to stop spam as such - precisely for the reason
 you have discovered: domains keep changing...
 you really need a dedicated 3rd party solution for this as ex is not
 good enough as is.
 q2 - have a look at http://spam.abuse.net/
 as for q3 - don't know and can't remember as not using ex5.5
 Rob
 be lucky...
 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Patti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 24 July 2002 15:59
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Stopping Spam
 
 
 I have 3 questions. I know I can block Spam from a particular sender, or
 block all the senders from a certain domain, using Message Filting in
 Exchange 5.5.  I got a list of individual address from the Junk senders
 list and Adult senders list but the domains all seem to be different.
 
 1. Do I have to put them individually or can I import them some how?
 2. Also does anyone have a list of Spam domains that I can put in, in
 addition to the address I already have?
 3. Where is the folder called Turf suppose to be in MS Exchange 5.5,
 where all of the filtered e-mails are suppose to go. I did a search for
 it
 and it didn't find it.
 
 ANY help would be greatly appreciated.
 Thanks
 Paul
 
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RE: Stopping Spam

2002-07-24 Thread Andy David

The only thing the Marshall wont stop are them Miss Kitty emails...


-Original Message-
From: Massey, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 3:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stopping Spam


We use MailMarshal (www.marshalsoftware.com) and so far have been very
pleased. I admit I spent about a weeks worth of time adjusting and adding my
own filters but now it's running like a champ. It's stopping a large
percentage of the junk mail that comes this way.

I looked at Praetor, Mimesweeper, Mail Essentials, Mail-Gear, and a few
others by other AV vendors. For our environment and use, MailMarshal came
out on top. Offering the most features and flexibility over the other
packages.

Good Luck,
David-

-Original Message-
From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 1:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stopping Spam


Thanks Chris. I did download the eval version to test before I purchase.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 2:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stopping Spam


Purchasing anything without first extensive testing in the lab would, IMHO
be a bad idea.

 -Original Message-
 From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 12:54 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
 
 Thanks Jeremy...
 I was reading up on CMS's Praetor and it seems perfect for the job. Has
 anyone had any bad experiences with it before I go ahead and purchase ?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jeremy I. Shannon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 1:45 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
 
 
 I use and like CMS's Praetor.  There is some administration to it, but it
 is
 worth it if your CEO doesn't get animal porn emails anymore.  Check it out
 at http://www.cmsconnect.com.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 1:21 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
 
 
 Yes I am looking for server based.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: EXTERN Hlabse Tony (Tek Systems;RBNA/CIT1)
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 1:23 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
 
 
 Sunbelt makes one. But I think like most of them they are client based. If
 your looking for server based I don't have any options for you.
 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 12:12 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
 
 
 My question: Is there a 3rd party tool anyone recommends to block spam ?
 I'm
 looking for something for the Microsoft Windows platform. I found plenty
 for
 UNIX and LINUX...
 In answer to your question:
 The TURF Directory has to be created and does not exist by default. The
 default entry is C:\Turfdir but you can change the path by altering a
 registry entry. Look on the MS KBase for this registry entry..don't
 remember
 it.
 Don't forget to restart the IMS as well as the IS after you do change the
 message filtering options and after you create the folder.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Rob Hackney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 12:01 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Stopping Spam
 
 
 it's pretty difficult to stop spam as such - precisely for the reason
 you have discovered: domains keep changing...
 you really need a dedicated 3rd party solution for this as ex is not
 good enough as is.
 q2 - have a look at http://spam.abuse.net/
 as for q3 - don't know and can't remember as not using ex5.5
 Rob
 be lucky...
 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Patti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 24 July 2002 15:59
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Stopping Spam
 
 
 I have 3 questions. I know I can block Spam from a particular sender, or
 block all the senders from a certain domain, using Message Filting in
 Exchange 5.5.  I got a list of individual address from the Junk senders
 list and Adult senders list but the domains all seem to be different.
 
 1. Do I have to put them individually or can I import them some how?
 2. Also does anyone have a list of Spam domains that I can put in, in
 addition to the address I already have?
 3. Where is the folder called Turf suppose to be in MS Exchange 5.5,
 where all of the filtered e-mails are suppose to go. I did a search for
 it
 and it didn't find it.
 
 ANY help would be greatly appreciated.
 Thanks
 Paul
 
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