RE: [Exchange] On-prem vs. O365

2016-03-15 Thread Jonathan Raper
Yes – the on-premises Exchange box is the Hybrid server, and will alleviate the 
pain of having to modify AD attributes manually one at a time. It also would 
allow you to host mailboxes on-premises if you have an need for that, so long 
as you have a license that allows you to host mailboxes on-premises. The free 
license that you are granted for Hybrid use from O365 does not allow for 
hosting mailboxes on-premises. You would need to pay for an additional Exchange 
server license for each mailbox server, (as well as any CALs, I believe)

When you login to the on-premises hybrid server (something like 
http://mail.contoso.com/ecp) , you see that there are two tabs in the upper 
left corner. One says Exchange and the other says Office 365. The Exchange side 
lets you modify your on-premises attributes through the Exchange Admin Center. 
When you click on the Office 365 tab, you will be prompted to authenticate, and 
can then modify anything on the O365 side. You can’t modify any attributes that 
are synced from on-premises in the O365 side (you have to do that from AD or 
from Exchange), however from the O365 side you can set and control full 
management and send-as permissions as well as forwarding, and things like that. 
Hope this helps.

And Azure AD Connect is head and shoulders above DirSync. Much better 
interface, IMO. This article will walk you through everything you need to know 
about Azure AD Connect:

https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/documentation/articles/active-directory-aadconnect/

Here’s a screen shot of my Hybrid server EAC:

[cid:image001.jpg@01D17EAB.A8165BC0]

Thanks,

Jonathan

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Hi Joseph,
Per my quick read, you appear to be under a very large O365 single tenant, and 
this may explain why you have limited access and control?

Not an expert on this, but If you are going to migrate several departments from 
main tenant to individual tenants, you should investigate installing hybrid 
server(s) to assist with the migration if needed.

We do all the account changes on the local AD side mostly through scripts due 
to the size of our environment, but occasionally we have to do a manual 
creation and push a task if urgent beyond our 3 hour Dirsync window.
We have DIRSYNC  push AD changes to  two tenants, but Dirsync  has been 
outdated recently with the release of AzureADSync - but not there yet so you 
will want to check into that since you are starting fresh.

Hope this helps or please respond.
Thanks
Dana


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Subject: RE: [Exchange] On-prem vs. O365

I work for the State of California.  3 years ago, we entered into an O365-D 
implementation.  Unfortunately, the implementation treated the entire state as 
a single organization, instead of 100+ organizations.  Due to this, we were not 
allowed an actual admin console.  So, in order to provision a mailbox, we 
currently manipulate attributes within the Active Directory user account, and 
wait for the sync to happen.  If something breaks, we send an e-mail to a 3rd 
party, who then forwards that on to Microsoft for troubleshooting.  This can 
take several hours before I get an initial contact from anyone.  We also have 
no access to powershell, reporting, or any other interface.  What we are moving 
into, what I call “true O365”, is O365-G.  Each department will have their own 
tenant space, so we will regain full admin control over our mailboxes again.  
I’m just trying to get an idea of what exactly that’s going to look like for 
our day-to-day operations.  We have been told that we will need a single 
Exchange box on-prem, which will be used during the migration, but that we can 
maintain, to allow the admin interface; I’m a little confused by what that 
exactly means as well.  Is that the EMC and EMS that I’m used to from on-prem, 
or something else?

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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Raper
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 1:48 PM
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Subject: RE: [Exchange] On-prem vs. O365

Dirsync runs every 3 hours. You can run it manually, of course, however the 
last documentation I saw said that Microsoft did not support scheduling it to 
run more often than every 3 hours.

So – however long it takes to replicate AD to the domain controllers that Azure 
AD Connect looks at, then the next sync interval after that – 3 hours or less, 
in a default configuration.

Once that is done, you can create th

RE: [Exchange] On-prem vs. O365

2016-03-14 Thread Jonathan Raper
Dirsync runs every 3 hours. You can run it manually, of course, however the 
last documentation I saw said that Microsoft did not support scheduling it to 
run more often than every 3 hours.

So – however long it takes to replicate AD to the domain controllers that Azure 
AD Connect looks at, then the next sync interval after that – 3 hours or less, 
in a default configuration.

Once that is done, you can create the mailbox.

Back to your original comment – “We are currently in a highly customized O365, 
but I have next to no admin abilities.  We are going to be moving to O365 soon, 
and my boss is asking me to create a document comparing where we are now, to 
where we will be”

I’m not sure I follow exactly what you are saying – you say you are in a highly 
customized O365….but in the next sentence you say you are moving to O365 
soon….. [scratches head, wants to understand]

If you have no admin abilities, it sounds like you’re using AD sync but don’t 
have a Hybrid server in place. A Hybrid server would ease the pain you’re 
dealing with from an Admin standpoint, in my opinion. Yes, you can edit 
attributes in AD, but that’s a royal pain. (then again, so is managing an 
on-premises Exchange server, but at least the license is free for a hybrid-only 
server).

We migrated from On-premises (2007) to O365 last year, using Exchange 2013 as a 
hybrid server. We maintained the hybrid implementation for a few reasons, admin 
being one of them.

Also, what exactly do you mean by “True O365”?

Thanks,

Jonathan L. Raper

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Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 11:44 AM
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Subject: RE: [Exchange] On-prem vs. O365

I’m just trying to get an idea of how long it takes to create a new user, and 
provision a mailbox.  Right now, it can take 4+ hours, because of the sync in 
our current setup.  I’m hoping that true O365 would be faster, but I’m not 
certain, since it is still O365.

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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Steve Ens
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 8:18 AM
To: excha...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:excha...@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: Re: [Exchange] On-prem vs. O365

You can do it manually if you want, but I think it is every couple of hours...I 
don't look too closely since I don't depend on it.

On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 10:04 AM Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife 
<joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov<mailto:joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov>> wrote:
And how long does the AzureADSync take?  Is it an on-demand sync, or scheduled?

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On Behalf Of Steve Ens
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 8:00 AM

To: excha...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:excha...@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: Re: [Exchange] On-prem vs. O365

No, always create my users on prem...then let AzureADSync take over.

On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 9:59 AM Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife 
<joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov<mailto:joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov>> wrote:
Do you do the user creation in the O365 console, or a combined effort?  If 
online only, how long does it take to sync back to the on-prem AD for network 
access?

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On Behalf Of Steve Ens
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 7:47 AM

To: excha...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:excha...@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: Re: [Exchange] On-prem vs. O365

If you take your on prem stuff out of the mix, then it is quicker to create 
users/mailboxes obviously than having to wait for the sync.

On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 9:44 AM Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife 
<joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov<mailto:joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov>> wrote:
How about the time to create a user/mailbox?  Currently, we have to manually 
manipulate attributes in ADUC, then wait for a scheduled sync to the cloud, for 
the mailbox to be created.  This can take several hours.  It’s not the same in 
true O365 is it?

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On Behalf Of Steve Ens
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 7:40 AM
To: excha...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:excha...@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: Re: [Exchange] On-prem vs. O365

The admin tools are almost identical Joe comparing O365 and Exchange 
2016managing the same mailboxes from a different portal address.  I think 
time and skill wise it is very similar.

On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 9:34 AM Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife 
<joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov<mailto:joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov>>

RE: [Exchange] On-prem vs. O365

2016-03-14 Thread Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife
I’m just trying to get an idea of how long it takes to create a new user, and 
provision a mailbox.  Right now, it can take 4+ hours, because of the sync in 
our current setup.  I’m hoping that true O365 would be faster, but I’m not 
certain, since it is still O365.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Steve Ens
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 8:18 AM
To: excha...@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [Exchange] On-prem vs. O365

You can do it manually if you want, but I think it is every couple of hours...I 
don't look too closely since I don't depend on it.

On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 10:04 AM Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife 
<joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov<mailto:joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov>> wrote:
And how long does the AzureADSync take?  Is it an on-demand sync, or scheduled?

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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>] 
On Behalf Of Steve Ens
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 8:00 AM

To: excha...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:excha...@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: Re: [Exchange] On-prem vs. O365

No, always create my users on prem...then let AzureADSync take over.

On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 9:59 AM Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife 
<joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov<mailto:joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov>> wrote:
Do you do the user creation in the O365 console, or a combined effort?  If 
online only, how long does it take to sync back to the on-prem AD for network 
access?

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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>] 
On Behalf Of Steve Ens
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 7:47 AM

To: excha...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:excha...@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: Re: [Exchange] On-prem vs. O365

If you take your on prem stuff out of the mix, then it is quicker to create 
users/mailboxes obviously than having to wait for the sync.

On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 9:44 AM Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife 
<joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov<mailto:joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov>> wrote:
How about the time to create a user/mailbox?  Currently, we have to manually 
manipulate attributes in ADUC, then wait for a scheduled sync to the cloud, for 
the mailbox to be created.  This can take several hours.  It’s not the same in 
true O365 is it?

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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>] 
On Behalf Of Steve Ens
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 7:40 AM
To: excha...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:excha...@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: Re: [Exchange] On-prem vs. O365

The admin tools are almost identical Joe comparing O365 and Exchange 
2016managing the same mailboxes from a different portal address.  I think 
time and skill wise it is very similar.

On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 9:34 AM Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife 
<joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov<mailto:joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov>> wrote:
How big of an adjustment was it to go from on-prem Exchange, to Office 365?  We 
are currently in a highly customized O365, but I have next to no admin 
abilities.  We are going to be moving to O365 soon, and my boss is asking me to 
create a document comparing where we are now, to where we will be, and how 
much, if any, our workload will increase.  I’m really not worried about the 
workload, but what I want to focus on, is the increase capabilities I will have 
administratively.  The best way I can think to do that, is to see the 
difference between on-prem and true O365.

Thanks for any help,

Joe Heaton
Information Technology Operations Branch
Data and Technology Division
CA Department of Fish and Wildlife
1700 9th Street, 3rd Floor
Sacramento, CA  95811
Desk:  (916) 323-1284

Every Californian should conserve water.  Find out how at:
SaveOurWater.com · Drought.CA.gov<http://saveourwater.com/>
 <http://saveourwater.com/>


Re: [Exchange] On-prem vs. O365

2016-03-14 Thread Steve Ens
You can do it manually if you want, but I think it is every couple of
hours...I don't look too closely since I don't depend on it.

On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 10:04 AM Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife <
joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov> wrote:

> And how long does the AzureADSync take?  Is it an on-demand sync, or
> scheduled?
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Ens
> *Sent:* Monday, March 14, 2016 8:00 AM
>
>
> *To:* excha...@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Exchange] On-prem vs. O365
>
>
>
> No, always create my users on prem...then let AzureADSync take over.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 9:59 AM Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife <
> joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov> wrote:
>
> Do you do the user creation in the O365 console, or a combined effort?  If
> online only, how long does it take to sync back to the on-prem AD for
> network access?
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Ens
> *Sent:* Monday, March 14, 2016 7:47 AM
>
>
> *To:* excha...@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Exchange] On-prem vs. O365
>
>
>
> If you take your on prem stuff out of the mix, then it is quicker to
> create users/mailboxes obviously than having to wait for the sync.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 9:44 AM Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife <
> joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov> wrote:
>
> How about the time to create a user/mailbox?  Currently, we have to
> manually manipulate attributes in ADUC, then wait for a scheduled sync to
> the cloud, for the mailbox to be created.  This can take several hours.
> It’s not the same in true O365 is it?
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Ens
> *Sent:* Monday, March 14, 2016 7:40 AM
> *To:* excha...@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Exchange] On-prem vs. O365
>
>
>
> The admin tools are almost identical Joe comparing O365 and Exchange
> 2016managing the same mailboxes from a different portal address.  I
> think time and skill wise it is very similar.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 9:34 AM Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife <
> joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov> wrote:
>
> How big of an adjustment was it to go from on-prem Exchange, to Office
> 365?  We are currently in a highly customized O365, but I have next to no
> admin abilities.  We are going to be moving to O365 soon, and my boss is
> asking me to create a document comparing where we are now, to where we will
> be, and how much, if any, our workload will increase.  I’m really not
> worried about the workload, but what I want to focus on, is the increase
> capabilities I will have administratively.  The best way I can think to do
> that, is to see the difference between on-prem and true O365.
>
>
>
> Thanks for any help,
>
>
>
> Joe Heaton
>
> Information Technology Operations Branch
>
> Data and Technology Division
>
> CA Department of Fish and Wildlife
>
> 1700 9th Street, 3rd Floor
>
> Sacramento, CA  95811
>
> Desk:  (916) 323-1284
>
>
>
> Every Californian should conserve water.  Find out how at:
>
> SaveOurWater.com · Drought.CA.gov <http://saveourwater.com/>
>
>   <http://saveourwater.com/>
>
>



RE: [Exchange] On-prem vs. O365

2016-03-14 Thread Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife
And how long does the AzureADSync take?  Is it an on-demand sync, or scheduled?

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Steve Ens
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 8:00 AM
To: excha...@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [Exchange] On-prem vs. O365

No, always create my users on prem...then let AzureADSync take over.

On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 9:59 AM Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife 
<joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov<mailto:joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov>> wrote:
Do you do the user creation in the O365 console, or a combined effort?  If 
online only, how long does it take to sync back to the on-prem AD for network 
access?

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>] 
On Behalf Of Steve Ens
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 7:47 AM

To: excha...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:excha...@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: Re: [Exchange] On-prem vs. O365

If you take your on prem stuff out of the mix, then it is quicker to create 
users/mailboxes obviously than having to wait for the sync.

On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 9:44 AM Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife 
<joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov<mailto:joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov>> wrote:
How about the time to create a user/mailbox?  Currently, we have to manually 
manipulate attributes in ADUC, then wait for a scheduled sync to the cloud, for 
the mailbox to be created.  This can take several hours.  It’s not the same in 
true O365 is it?

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>] 
On Behalf Of Steve Ens
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 7:40 AM
To: excha...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:excha...@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: Re: [Exchange] On-prem vs. O365

The admin tools are almost identical Joe comparing O365 and Exchange 
2016managing the same mailboxes from a different portal address.  I think 
time and skill wise it is very similar.

On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 9:34 AM Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife 
<joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov<mailto:joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov>> wrote:
How big of an adjustment was it to go from on-prem Exchange, to Office 365?  We 
are currently in a highly customized O365, but I have next to no admin 
abilities.  We are going to be moving to O365 soon, and my boss is asking me to 
create a document comparing where we are now, to where we will be, and how 
much, if any, our workload will increase.  I’m really not worried about the 
workload, but what I want to focus on, is the increase capabilities I will have 
administratively.  The best way I can think to do that, is to see the 
difference between on-prem and true O365.

Thanks for any help,

Joe Heaton
Information Technology Operations Branch
Data and Technology Division
CA Department of Fish and Wildlife
1700 9th Street, 3rd Floor
Sacramento, CA  95811
Desk:  (916) 323-1284

Every Californian should conserve water.  Find out how at:
SaveOurWater.com · Drought.CA.gov<http://saveourwater.com/>
 <http://saveourwater.com/>


Re: [Exchange] On-prem vs. O365

2016-03-14 Thread Steve Ens
No, always create my users on prem...then let AzureADSync take over.

On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 9:59 AM Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife <
joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov> wrote:

> Do you do the user creation in the O365 console, or a combined effort?  If
> online only, how long does it take to sync back to the on-prem AD for
> network access?
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Ens
> *Sent:* Monday, March 14, 2016 7:47 AM
>
>
> *To:* excha...@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Exchange] On-prem vs. O365
>
>
>
> If you take your on prem stuff out of the mix, then it is quicker to
> create users/mailboxes obviously than having to wait for the sync.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 9:44 AM Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife <
> joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov> wrote:
>
> How about the time to create a user/mailbox?  Currently, we have to
> manually manipulate attributes in ADUC, then wait for a scheduled sync to
> the cloud, for the mailbox to be created.  This can take several hours.
> It’s not the same in true O365 is it?
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Ens
> *Sent:* Monday, March 14, 2016 7:40 AM
> *To:* excha...@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Exchange] On-prem vs. O365
>
>
>
> The admin tools are almost identical Joe comparing O365 and Exchange
> 2016managing the same mailboxes from a different portal address.  I
> think time and skill wise it is very similar.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 9:34 AM Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife <
> joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov> wrote:
>
> How big of an adjustment was it to go from on-prem Exchange, to Office
> 365?  We are currently in a highly customized O365, but I have next to no
> admin abilities.  We are going to be moving to O365 soon, and my boss is
> asking me to create a document comparing where we are now, to where we will
> be, and how much, if any, our workload will increase.  I’m really not
> worried about the workload, but what I want to focus on, is the increase
> capabilities I will have administratively.  The best way I can think to do
> that, is to see the difference between on-prem and true O365.
>
>
>
> Thanks for any help,
>
>
>
> Joe Heaton
>
> Information Technology Operations Branch
>
> Data and Technology Division
>
> CA Department of Fish and Wildlife
>
> 1700 9th Street, 3rd Floor
>
> Sacramento, CA  95811
>
> Desk:  (916) 323-1284
>
>
>
> Every Californian should conserve water.  Find out how at:
>
> <http://saveourwater.com/>
>
> *SaveOurWater.com* · *Drought.CA.gov* <http://saveourwater.com/>
>
>   <http://saveourwater.com/>
>
>



Re: [Exchange] On-prem vs. O365

2016-03-14 Thread Steve Ens
If you take your on prem stuff out of the mix, then it is quicker to create
users/mailboxes obviously than having to wait for the sync.

On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 9:44 AM Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife <
joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov> wrote:

> How about the time to create a user/mailbox?  Currently, we have to
> manually manipulate attributes in ADUC, then wait for a scheduled sync to
> the cloud, for the mailbox to be created.  This can take several hours.
> It’s not the same in true O365 is it?
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Ens
> *Sent:* Monday, March 14, 2016 7:40 AM
> *To:* excha...@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Exchange] On-prem vs. O365
>
>
>
> The admin tools are almost identical Joe comparing O365 and Exchange
> 2016managing the same mailboxes from a different portal address.  I
> think time and skill wise it is very similar.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 9:34 AM Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife <
> joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov> wrote:
>
> How big of an adjustment was it to go from on-prem Exchange, to Office
> 365?  We are currently in a highly customized O365, but I have next to no
> admin abilities.  We are going to be moving to O365 soon, and my boss is
> asking me to create a document comparing where we are now, to where we will
> be, and how much, if any, our workload will increase.  I’m really not
> worried about the workload, but what I want to focus on, is the increase
> capabilities I will have administratively.  The best way I can think to do
> that, is to see the difference between on-prem and true O365.
>
>
>
> Thanks for any help,
>
>
>
> Joe Heaton
>
> Information Technology Operations Branch
>
> Data and Technology Division
>
> CA Department of Fish and Wildlife
>
> 1700 9th Street, 3rd Floor
>
> Sacramento, CA  95811
>
> Desk:  (916) 323-1284
>
>
>
> Every Californian should conserve water.  Find out how at:
>
> [image: SaveOurWater_Logo] <http://saveourwater.com/>
>
> SaveOurWater.com <http://saveourwater.com/> · Drought.CA.gov
> <http://drought.ca.gov/>
>
>
>
>



RE: [Exchange] On-prem vs. O365

2016-03-14 Thread Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife
How about the time to create a user/mailbox?  Currently, we have to manually 
manipulate attributes in ADUC, then wait for a scheduled sync to the cloud, for 
the mailbox to be created.  This can take several hours.  It’s not the same in 
true O365 is it?

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Steve Ens
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 7:40 AM
To: excha...@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [Exchange] On-prem vs. O365

The admin tools are almost identical Joe comparing O365 and Exchange 
2016managing the same mailboxes from a different portal address.  I think 
time and skill wise it is very similar.

On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 9:34 AM Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife 
<joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov<mailto:joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov>> wrote:
How big of an adjustment was it to go from on-prem Exchange, to Office 365?  We 
are currently in a highly customized O365, but I have next to no admin 
abilities.  We are going to be moving to O365 soon, and my boss is asking me to 
create a document comparing where we are now, to where we will be, and how 
much, if any, our workload will increase.  I’m really not worried about the 
workload, but what I want to focus on, is the increase capabilities I will have 
administratively.  The best way I can think to do that, is to see the 
difference between on-prem and true O365.

Thanks for any help,

Joe Heaton
Information Technology Operations Branch
Data and Technology Division
CA Department of Fish and Wildlife
1700 9th Street, 3rd Floor
Sacramento, CA  95811
Desk:  (916) 323-1284

Every Californian should conserve water.  Find out how at:
[SaveOurWater_Logo]<http://saveourwater.com/>
SaveOurWater.com<http://saveourwater.com/> · 
Drought.CA.gov<http://drought.ca.gov/>