Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-31 Thread mike
this to the newbie list or off mandrake altogether... rgds Franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Wolfgang Bornath Sent: Wednesday, 29 January 2003 2:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-31 Thread mike
Saddam has been a dictator (evil) and had weapons for 20 years and there has not been a global event. Dubya has been President for 2 years and he is going to start one. Taken with the fact that there are 2 other unrelated nations that he includes in his axis of power, this is a dangerous

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-31 Thread Chuck Burns
On Fri, January 31 2003 7:54 pm, mike wrote: : Not one of the hijackers was Iraqi, 15 of the 19 were Saudi however; our : ally. This ain't about 9/11, its about 11/??/2004. : Oh boy! All the things I could do to him! And he'd never say it was me, if I sent someone else to do it! WOOT! -- Chuck

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-30 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Wed, 2003-01-29 at 14:17, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 13:39 -0500, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Wednesday 29 January 2003 02:11 am, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: Totally different situation. The American president and the congress did not want to go to war against Germany

RE: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-30 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
another nearby area having been nuked, shall we? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Wolfgang Bornath Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 10:50 PM To: Experts Subject: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow? Sorry to bother you, but we were

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-30 Thread Ron Stodden
Franki wrote: Also, I am not a yank, I'm Australian, but IF the US are telling the truth.. then hell yes, we should overthrow saddam.. and for once we should do it BEFORE a tragedy occurs, not after.. To act like that patently violates the UN charter which expressly prohibits that kind of

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-30 Thread et
You want it to sound like these powers were not part of the same set of allies; but they were. It was not a double war, it was a single war on two fronts. LX ehh,,, they sure did not surrender together. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-30 Thread JM5379
count, there have been somewhere close to 100 posts on this thread alone - far too many for a subject so blatantly OT as this was initially, and has continued to mutate into. --- Original Message --- From: et [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-30 Thread Dallam Wych
On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 12:24:20AM +1100, Ron Stodden wrote: Iraq's invasion of Kuwait was because Kuwait was slant drilling under the border to illegally extract Iraqian oil and refused to desist. I thought this thread was declared dead? But I do want to thank you for informing me as to why

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-30 Thread Ron Stodden
Lyvim Xaphir wrote: I don't take kindly to my president being called a madman. But it is plainly quite true - he is quite certifiably insane.He is the grandson of a traitor, Prescott Bush, who was aiding and abetting the Nazis though WWII until he was arrested and imprisoned.The

RE: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-30 Thread Jane
Title: RE: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow? Ron, Where did you study psychology? Your opinion of the Even an elementary psychological awareness immediately recognizes his multiple false projections. First, instead of owning it, he projects his own devils on to Osama bin Laden, now

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-30 Thread Tibbetts, Ric
With all the Anit-American inflamitory comments that have been generated on this thread, I couldn't help but to break down, and add my piece to this. This is an article from London's Daily Mirror Surprise! Surprise! When one of the world's most liberal left wing newspapers writes a great

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-30 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
Ladies and gentlemen (you too, Bornath) before I get started here I'd like to introduce Dr Khidhir Hamza, a defector nuclear scientist from Iraq currently residing in the United States. http://www.benadorassociates.com/hamza.php I note that there has been a considerable lessening of traffic on

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-30 Thread Mick Szucs
On Thu, 2003-01-30 at 15:19, Tibbetts, Ric wrote: The truth is that America has behaved with enormous restraint since September 11. Remember, remember! Remember the gut-wrenching tapes of weeping men phoning their wives to say, I love you, before they were burned alive. Remember those

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-30 Thread Mick Szucs
On Thu, 2003-01-30 at 16:11, Mick Szucs wrote: All you Republican-wannabe U.S. fascist-impostor president lovers can eat me. Go find one of those nukes that Dubya loves so much more than educated children or healthy senior citizens and shove it right up your ass. The world will be a safer

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-30 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Thursday 30 January 2003 03:19 pm, Tibbetts, Ric wrote: With all the Anit-American inflamitory comments that have been generated on this thread, I couldn't help but to break down, and add my piece to this. Thanks Ric! --

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-30 Thread Ross Slade
The truth is that America has behaved with enormous restraint since Oh please, what a load of grandstanding tripe. My apologies to this list, I have just joined and thought I had joined a Mandrake Linux support list. Can anyone give me the correct address so I can join the Mandrake Expert

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-30 Thread Mick Szucs
On Thu, 2003-01-30 at 16:38, Ross Slade wrote: The truth is that America has behaved with enormous restraint since Oh please, what a load of grandstanding tripe. My apologies to this list, I have just joined and thought I had joined a Mandrake Linux support list. Can anyone give me the

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-30 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Wed, 2003-01-29 at 15:03, Todd Lyons wrote: Wolfgang Bornath wrote on Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 04:49:36AM +0100 : Sorry to bother you, but we were discussing whether there will be a future for MandrakeSoft. After tonight I wonder whether there will be a future for us all and the world as

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-30 Thread Carroll Grigsby
Die thread, die. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?(OFF LIST)

2003-01-30 Thread Damian Gatabria
..OH! That guy is going to kill his neighbour! Quick! Let's nuke them both right off the face of the earth! Whew, what an accurate characterization of current events. Stop being a damn idiot. I'll stop being a damn idiot, sir, when you stop making arguable statements and insulting

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-30 Thread Todd Lyons
Todd Lyons wrote on Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 12:03:39PM -0800 : I listened to the US-Amercan president. Offtopic for this list. Take it offlist. When I wake up tomorrow, I will unsubscribe everybody who has contributed to this thread as of right now. I announced it yesterday giving 24 hours

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 23:50 -0800, Dave Laird wrote: However, given the condition of the US economy at the present, and given the abject lack of accurate verifiable information coming from The Shrub's office, I am truly saddened by what I see coming. The saddest part and also a fact that

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Steffen Barszus
On Wednesday 29 January 2003 06:44, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 22:49, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: Sorry to bother you, but we were discussing whether there will be a future for MandrakeSoft. After tonight I wonder whether there will be a future for us all and the world as we

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Vahur Lokk
On Wednesday 29 January 2003 09:50, you wrote: All I've got to say for The Shrub, our President, is, SHOW ME THE BEEF! If he shows me that he has proof for everything he said, especially the parts about Saddam's weapons of mass destruction, I too will stand up and join you in saying loudly,

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread André Salaün
Le mer 29/01/2003 à 11:52, Vahur Lokk wrote : /... So there is no good answer... -- André Salaün. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Vahur Lokk
On Wednesday 29 January 2003 09:11, you wrote: You just described Hitler and the German people in 1939. You just described Goebbels in the Berlin Sportpalast with 100,000 excited Germans shouting War! Hmm... Im watching another discussion of the kind in another list. And surprise-surprise.

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread tarvid
On Tuesday 28 January 2003 10:49 pm, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: Sorry to bother you, but we were discussing whether there will be a future for MandrakeSoft. After tonight I wonder whether there will be a future for us all and the world as we know it. I listened to the US-Amercan president. I'm

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 13:08 +0200, Vahur Lokk wrote: On Wednesday 29 January 2003 09:11, you wrote: You just described Hitler and the German people in 1939. You just described Goebbels in the Berlin Sportpalast with 100,000 excited Germans shouting War! Hmm... Im watching another

RE: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Franki
. Thats not to say that I agree with him, I am simply not in a position to judge.. rgds Franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Wolfgang Bornath Sent: Wednesday, 29 January 2003 3:12 PM To: ExpertMandrake-List Subject: Re: [expert] OT

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 06:20 -0500, tarvid wrote: On Tuesday 28 January 2003 10:49 pm, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: Sorry to bother you, but we were discussing whether there will be a future for MandrakeSoft. After tonight I wonder whether there will be a future for us all and the world as we

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 20:15 +0800, Franki wrote: Once hitler was in charge.. there was nothing even remotely like democracy... anyone that disagreed with him was locked up or killed.. many his own generals were terrified of him.. and most of the general german army had no real idea what

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread civileme
On Tuesday 28 January 2003 07:22 pm, Mark Weaver wrote: Wolfgang Bornath wrote: Sorry to bother you, but we were discussing whether there will be a future for MandrakeSoft. After tonight I wonder whether there will be a future for us all and the world as we know it. I listened to the

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Dallam Wych
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 11:17:13AM +0100, Steffen Barszus wrote: On Wednesday 29 January 2003 06:44, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 22:49, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: Sorry to bother you, but we were discussing whether there will be a future for MandrakeSoft. After tonight I

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 07:41 -0500, Mark Weaver wrote: And what do you imagine those consequences to be if/when america goes to war against Iraq? That's an easy one, listen to all the analysts on tv. They are all telling the same. There are 2 possible ways the war may turn: 1. What Mr.

RE: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Franki
] OT Will there be a tomorrow? On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 20:15 +0800, Franki wrote: Once hitler was in charge.. there was nothing even remotely like democracy... anyone that disagreed with him was locked up or killed.. many his own generals were terrified of him.. and most of the general german

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 13:18 +, Dallam Wych wrote: I guess that perhaps is the way America and the uk feel when they hear your chancellor repetively refer the german way. Talk about scarey stuff, deja vu. When did Mr. Schroeder say something like the German way? And when did he say

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Chuck Burns
On Wed, January 29 2003 7:55 am, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: *snip* BTW: What doo you think is the German way of today? From your statement I doubt that you have any clue. I think the Germans are so scared of their OWN past, that they will allow ANY country to do whatever they want to do to their

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Mark Weaver
Wolfgang Bornath wrote: On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 23:22 -0500, Mark Weaver wrote: Wolfgang Bornath wrote: Sorry to bother you, but we were discussing whether there will be a future for MandrakeSoft. After tonight I wonder whether there will be a future for us all and the world as we know it. I

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Chuck Burns
On Wed, January 29 2003 7:55 am, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: Since WWII Germany has a very strong feeling against any military involvement. As we have a more democratic way of dealing with our chancellor (i.e. he has far less political power than your president) he has to bend to the peoples will.

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 07:57 -0600, Chuck Burns wrote: On Wed, January 29 2003 7:55 am, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: *snip* BTW: What doo you think is the German way of today? From your statement I doubt that you have any clue. I think the Germans are so scared of their OWN past, that they will

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This is WAY offtopic and would be better suited for an alt.* newsgroup. As a US Desert Storm veteran and now reservist, I think I can speak for EVERYONE that Bush is an idiot, in fact, he truly is the most ignorant, ill-educated president that the

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Mike Veltman
This is not the mailinglist to be political I gues. But the reaction of mister burns shows me that it seems that americans feel very misunderstood. :-) Pretty funny for a superpower that has the largest depts in the world. But let us at least try to have a common goal (linux-mandrake) And

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 08:01 -0600, Chuck Burns wrote: No one likes us. I don't know why. We may not be perfect,We give them money, But heaven knows we try. But are they grateful? But all around, No, they're spiteful, Even

RE: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread mathews . 5
There is a clear issue here. It is international cooperation vs. unilateralism. The Bush administration has demonstrated its contempt for internationalism by: 1) abrogating the ABM treaty 2) scuttling the protocols for the biological weapons treaty 3) ignoring the Geneva Convention 4)

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 09:12 -0500, Praedor Tempus Atrebates wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This is WAY offtopic and would be better suited for an alt.* newsgroup. As a US Desert Storm veteran and now reservist, I think I can speak for EVERYONE that Bush is an

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Chuck Burns
On Wed, January 29 2003 8:19 am, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: *snip* Cowardice has nothing to do with the brain. It is downright dumb to call someone a coward who looks and thinks before he follows blindly. *snip* No, but completely disregarding the facts does have a lot to do with the brain. FACT:

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Chuck Burns
On Wed, January 29 2003 8:32 am, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: *snip* Yes, I know that one and I just love it. It's a very good example of putting the words so extreme that only a very dumb person doesn't realize it's a joke with a very serious background. I see that you completely ignored my post,

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread tarvid
On Wednesday 29 January 2003 09:36 am, Chuck Burns wrote: On Wed, January 29 2003 8:19 am, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: *snip* Cowardice has nothing to do with the brain. It is downright dumb to call someone a coward who looks and thinks before he follows blindly. *snip* No, but completely

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Dallam Wych
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 02:55:34PM +0100, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: When did Mr. Schroeder say something like the German way? And when did he say something that makes you look back to the Nazi era? It would be a déjà-vu if he'd side up with Mr. Bush. The we'd really be concerned. Your

Re: S0: RE: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread tarvid
On Wednesday 29 January 2003 09:32 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a clear issue here. It is international cooperation vs. unilateralism. The Bush administration has demonstrated its contempt for internationalism by: 1) abrogating the ABM treaty 2) scuttling the protocols for the

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Chuck Burns
On Wed, January 29 2003 8:43 am, tarvid wrote: *snip* Bush chooses internationalism when it suits him. He scuttled Kyoto, ABM and the Biological weapons protocols and ignores the Viena and Geneva conventions. So, you think implementing a system that protects US citizens from ICMBs is a bad

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread tarvid
On Wednesday 29 January 2003 09:54 am, Chuck Burns wrote: On Wed, January 29 2003 8:43 am, tarvid wrote: *snip* Bush chooses internationalism when it suits him. He scuttled Kyoto, ABM and the Biological weapons protocols and ignores the Viena and Geneva conventions. So, you think

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 29 January 2003 10:08 am, tarvid wrote: I like my horse, even though he is over 30 now. 30?! Wow. What kind of horse is he? Have you retired him to pasture grazing or do you actually still ride him? - -- Conservatives of all

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 08:36 -0600, Chuck Burns wrote: FACT: The French have oil contracts with Iraq. Aha! Now we are seeing some real beef. The French have and the US have not? (You may recognize that I'm coming down to your level of arguing slowly but surely). FACT: Nearly all the Iraqi

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 08:38 -0600, Chuck Burns wrote: On Wed, January 29 2003 8:32 am, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: *snip* Yes, I know that one and I just love it. It's a very good example of putting the words so extreme that only a very dumb person doesn't realize it's a joke with a very

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread tarvid
On Wednesday 29 January 2003 10:07 am, Praedor Tempus Atrebates wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 29 January 2003 10:08 am, tarvid wrote: I like my horse, even though he is over 30 now. 30?! Wow. What kind of horse is he? Have you retired him to pasture

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Dave Laird
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Good morning, Mike... On Wednesday 29 January 2003 06:20 am, Mike Veltman wrote: And please respect the fact that a lot of europeans have a different view of the Irac case. ...as do *SOME* Americans. Dave - -- Dave Laird ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 29 January 2003 10:27 am, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 08:36 -0600, Chuck Burns wrote: FACT: The French have oil contracts with Iraq. Aha! Now we are seeing some real beef. The French have and the US have not?

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Dave Laird
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Good morning, Wobo... On Wednesday 29 January 2003 06:37 am, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: Looking back I realize that I have made a mistake by opening this thread. Sorry folks, I'll start a new one on my experiences with the Beta2 of 9.1 in some

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread et
Frankl says To put it simply, we MUSTN'T judge Bush, because we have no idea what he knows.. I say very wrong statement,,, absolute power corrupts absolutely. We MUST Judge the Government continueally, if we are ever to hope to have a government by the people, for the people and of the people.

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 14:56 +, Dallam Wych wrote: BTW: What doo you think is the German way of today? From your statement I doubt that you have any clue. In all honesty, I only spend a few weeks a year now in germany as opposed to the 1970's when I spent perhaps 3 months out of the

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Wed, 2003-01-29 at 08:57, Chuck Burns wrote: On Wed, January 29 2003 7:55 am, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: *snip* BTW: What doo you think is the German way of today? From your statement I doubt that you have any clue. I think the Germans are so scared of their OWN past, that they will allow

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 29 January 2003 10:35 am, tarvid wrote: On Wednesday 29 January 2003 10:07 am, Praedor Tempus Atrebates wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 29 January 2003 10:08 am, tarvid wrote: I like my horse,

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Wed, 2003-01-29 at 09:38, Chuck Burns wrote: On Wed, January 29 2003 8:32 am, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: *snip* Yes, I know that one and I just love it. It's a very good example of putting the words so extreme that only a very dumb person doesn't realize it's a joke with a very serious

[st_barszus@gmx.de: Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?]

2003-01-29 Thread Dallam Wych
: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow? On Wednesday 29 January 2003 14:18, Dallam Wych wrote: How much have you understood what war means ? How much are you informed what people here in germany think ? How much are you interested to understand whats going on in minds here ? I would say THINK

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 10:53 -0500, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: That's right, Chuck; that's exactly what you would expect from a brainwashed socialist liberal with absolutely no facts on their side except for worthless emotional outbursts created by the flood of brainwash diarrea from the communist

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 29 January 2003 10:53 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Wed, 2003-01-29 at 09:38, Chuck Burns wrote: On Wed, January 29 2003 8:32 am, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: *snip* Yes, I know that one and I just love it. It's a very good example

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread et
On Wednesday 29 January 2003 11:14 am, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 10:53 -0500, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: That's right, Chuck; that's exactly what you would expect from a brainwashed socialist liberal with absolutely no facts on their side except for worthless emotional

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Sascha Noyes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 29 January 2003 09:54 am, Chuck Burns wrote: On Wed, January 29 2003 8:43 am, tarvid wrote: *snip* Bush chooses internationalism when it suits him. He scuttled Kyoto, ABM and the Biological weapons protocols and ignores the

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Wed, 2003-01-29 at 05:17, Steffen Barszus wrote: First of all, this is not the right place to discuss this .. but we had many OT-discussions here, why not these... Wobo had his tit; I had the tat, then offered to take it private. Looks like it's public anyway. Fine. I don't take

RE: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Franki
2003 11:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow? Frankl says To put it simply, we MUSTN'T judge Bush, because we have no idea what he knows.. I say very wrong statement,,, absolute power corrupts absolutely. We MUST Judge the Government continueally, if we

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 11:14 -0500, et wrote: looks like poop... smells like poop, feels like poop, if you think it's not poop, then you taste it In this case I'd rather put it like this: Looks like poop... smells like poop... feels like poop. Now it's up to you to believe or not when

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Sascha Noyes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 29 January 2003 10:53 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Wed, 2003-01-29 at 09:38, Chuck Burns wrote: On Wed, January 29 2003 8:32 am, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: *snip* Yes, I know that one and I just love it. It's a very good example

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Wed, 2003-01-29 at 10:36, Praedor Tempus Atrebates wrote: There is a little thing of lost oil field control by US oil companies as a result of all the Desert Storm, etc, ugliness. Bush would love nothing more than to install a friendly leader in Iraq who would then turn over the oil

Re: [st_barszus@gmx.de: Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?]

2003-01-29 Thread Sascha Noyes
, Please refrain from posting privately on a mailing list, it really isn't proper netiquette. - Forwarded message from Steffen Barszus [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 15:12:21 +0100 From: Steffen Barszus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] OT

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Alfredo C. López
to know so they can control what rule you. My two cents. rgds Franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Wolfgang Bornath Sent: Wednesday, 29 January 2003 8:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] OT

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
On Wednesday 29 January 2003 11:29 am, Franki wrote: 3. Oil, I don't recall hearing that the Oil fields that the US liberated in Desert storm are now owned by the US did I miss some important news flyer here??? who is running Kuwait now??? I wasn't aware it was the No oil fields were

RE: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread John Hart
: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 10:50 PM To: Experts Subject: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow? Sorry to bother you, but we were discussing whether there will be a future for MandrakeSoft. After tonight I wonder whether there will be a future for us all and the world as we know it. I listened to the US

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva
I beg your all pardon but I could not keep my fingers away from the keyboard after such a stupid things written below. First, Bush (and I put him apart from USA because America, despite elected him, is greater than that asshole) never signed Kyoto Protocol, but USA (Clinton) had previously signed

Re: [st_barszus@gmx.de: Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?]

2003-01-29 Thread Dallam Wych
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 11:34:31AM -0500, Sascha Noyes wrote: The only reason that he posted privately (by error) is that you have got a reply to set while discussing on a mailing list. Sorry, but that is your fault. I don't think so, I think it is a kmail thing. It isn't my mutts fault that

RE: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Mick Szucs
On Wed, 2003-01-29 at 11:29, Franki wrote: Those who do not heed the past are destined to repeat it.. so he is at least making an effort to stop something before it happens now.. history is full of cases where no action was taken till it was too late.. who knows, he might actually stop the

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Alfredo C. López
El Mié 29 Ene 2003 11:54, Chuck Burns escribió: We never SIGNED kyoto, because it was nothing more than a ploy to LOOK GOOD to ecologists. The WORST polluting countries are the 3rd world countries with NO environmental protection agencies, and the Kyoto treaty left them alone, so, of course

Re: [st_barszus@gmx.de: Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?]

2003-01-29 Thread Steffen Barszus
it after reading my sig. - Forwarded message from Steffen Barszus [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 15:12:21 +0100 From: Steffen Barszus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow? On Wednesday 29 January 2003 14:18, Dallam

RE: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Franki
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alfredo C. López Sent: Thursday, 30 January 2003 12:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow? Hi! I'm a guy living in Argentina, far away from the bullets. El Mié 29

Re: [st_barszus@gmx.de: Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?]

2003-01-29 Thread Dallam Wych
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 06:02:21PM +0100, Steffen Barszus wrote: Sorry that I did not checked if your reply-to header is set right. I know it is bad behavior and you would know it that I know it after reading my sig. So I need to update kmail ;) . My intend was to quote the text you have

RE: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Franki
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow? On Wed, 2003-01-29 at 11:29, Franki wrote: Those who do not heed the past are destined to repeat it.. so he is at least making an effort to stop something before it happens now.. history is full of cases where no action was taken

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 29 January 2003 11:46 am, Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva wrote: I beg your all pardon but I could not keep my fingers away from the keyboard after such a stupid things written below. [...] Pardon Praedor, but I could not help myself

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Wed, 2003-01-29 at 11:14, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 10:53 -0500, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: That's right, Chuck; that's exactly what you would expect from a brainwashed socialist liberal with absolutely no facts on their side except for worthless emotional outbursts

RE: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread engage
PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alfredo C. López Sent: Thursday, 30 January 2003 12:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow? Hi! I'm a guy living in Argentina, far away from the bullets. El Mié 29 Ene 2003 10:23, Franki escribió: You didn't address the issue

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 29 January 2003 11:57 am, Alfredo C. López wrote: El Mié 29 Ene 2003 11:54, Chuck Burns escribió: We never SIGNED kyoto, because it was nothing more than a ploy to LOOK GOOD to ecologists. The WORST polluting countries are the 3rd

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread et
On Wednesday 29 January 2003 11:32 am, Sascha Noyes wrote: The terms socialist and liberal are mutually exclusive. Sascha Noyes so that is your final say on that? or how do you realy feel? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

Re: [st_barszus@gmx.de: Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?]

2003-01-29 Thread Steffen Barszus
On Wednesday 29 January 2003 18:23, Dallam Wych wrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 06:02:21PM +0100, Steffen Barszus wrote: Sorry that I did not checked if your reply-to header is set right. I know it is bad behavior and you would know it that I know it after reading my sig. So I need to

RE: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Franki
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lyvim Xaphir Sent: Thursday, 30 January 2003 1:14 AM To: ExpertMandrake-List Subject: Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow? On Wed, 2003-01-29 at 11:14, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 10:53 -0500, Lyvim Xaphir

RE: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Mick Szucs
On Wed, 2003-01-29 at 12:18, Franki wrote: maybe they are learning.. albiet slowly.. They did not put a dictator in charge of afganistan... they tried to start a democracy if memory serves... Poor wording on my part - I was referring to the Millions of dollars in aid, weapons and training

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 29 January 2003 12:23 pm, Mark Weaver wrote: Wolfgang Bornath wrote: [...] Last polls in USA show that nearly half of the American people don't want war against Iraq in any case. In Germany our chancellor wouldn't get away with

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 29 January 2003 12:24 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wish you people would quit cluttering my mailbox with all this crap. There are other lists where this would be appropriate. Franki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote .. first of all...

RE: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Franki
opinion.. but that certainly doesn't make it right... rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mick Szucs Sent: Thursday, 30 January 2003 1:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow? On Wed, 2003

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow? The sun will come out tomorrow, bet your bottom dollar...

2003-01-29 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 29 January 2003 12:45 pm, Franki wrote: [...] believe it or not.. often a dictator is better economically then a democracy (at least initially).. simply because the leader need not worry about public opinion.. but that certainly

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Wednesday 29 January 2003 02:11 am, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: Totally different situation. The American president and the congress did not want to go to war against Germany because a lot of large US companies were tied up with Germany (mostly with the IG Farben conglomerate). The Jewish

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