Re: [expert] There is no net phone for linux, period

2001-02-08 Thread Traci Collins
Praedor Tempus wrote: You know, now I am curious as to the mechanics of this. Anyone can buy a Quicknet Linkjack or phonejack card (and download the free driver). Anyone can download the openh323 software, build it and use it. What are the "mechanics" of say ME doing this and just using

Re: [expert] There is no net phone for linux, period

2001-02-06 Thread Jorge Ramírez Llaca
e: [expert] There is no net phone for linux, period I have a theory that I'm going to test but I will need a little help. Anybody know of a way to "lie" about the type of browser and os in netscape 4.7x and 6? Message me privately to avoid any "issues". I'm worki

Re: [expert] There is no net phone for linux, period

2001-02-06 Thread Altoine B.
Jorge Ramrez Llaca wrote: Try with Opera 5 File - Preferences - Connections - Browser identification = MSIE 5.0 Just make sure that you have a jre installed and configured Thank You -- Al -- .--. ` |__| .---. Altoine Barker |=.| |.-.| Maximum Time, Inc

Re: [expert] There is no net phone for linux, period

2001-02-06 Thread Martin Cleaver
Try with Opera 5 File - Preferences - Connections - Browser identification = MSIE 5.0 Just make sure that you have a jre installed and configured Recently a major survey syggested that Opera had an infinitisimal market share. I wrote and pointed out that Opera could pretend to be another

Re: [expert] There is no net phone for linux, period

2001-02-06 Thread Eric MC.D
I suppose you want to know how your ISP detect your browser ?? This is done by the env variables of your browser: REMOTE_HOST REMOTE_ADDRESS HTTP_USER_AGENT (THIS ONE= Mozilla/..) HTTP_REFERER A script CGI on the server analyse always foolwing var: REMOTE_HOST REMOTE_ADDR HTTP_USER_AGENT

Re: [expert] There is no net phone for linux, period

2001-02-06 Thread Ron Heron
Just to resound, the message below is perfectly accurate. So, to provide this type of service, like a linux version of dialpad, one would have to hack the client software, and provide routing to the PSTN Gateway on the server end. There are several of these gateways that one would have to

Re: [expert] There is no net phone for linux, period

2001-02-06 Thread Vic
I second that On Monday 05 February 2001 11:42 pm, so spoke Altoine B.: Yes, that is correct. That is exactly what it does. Now, what is it that the Quicknet PhoneJack cards do that these services do not do but get the same job done? Hmmm... That is why we want to either hack (program) the

Re: [expert] There is no net phone for linux, period

2001-02-06 Thread Vic
If I can help, I will give it a shot even tho I'm between newbie and expert somewhere. On Tuesday 06 February 2001 12:36 am, so spoke Altoine B.: Here I go again. Maybe my question is not getting through (the one about, "What is this one doing that dialpad and net2phone are doing differently

Re: [expert] There is no net phone for linux, period

2001-02-06 Thread Todd Flinders
I would help. I have some basic C++ and Java programming experience. I've programmed in other languages as well, but that is not relevant. I've never programmed something like this, though. But if there's room to learn, I would be interested in participating. --- Vic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [expert] There is no net phone for linux, period

2001-02-06 Thread Praedor Tempus
Hello. One thing to consider (not being a coder, I am not certain where this falls into the particular burgening project here - COOL! by the way) as a basis, is that all the applications out there of any note, including net2phone, dialpad, netphone, M$ netmeeting, etc, do use open H323 as

Re: [expert] There is no net phone for linux, period

2001-02-06 Thread Altoine B.
Ron Heron wrote: Just to resound, the message below is perfectly accurate. So, to provide this type of service, like a linux version of dialpad, one would have to hack the client software, and provide routing to the PSTN Gateway on the server end. There are several of these gateways that

Re: [expert] There is no net phone for linux, period

2001-02-06 Thread Altoine B.
Todd Flinders wrote: I would help. I have some basic C++ and Java programming experience. I've programmed in other languages as well, but that is not relevant. I've never programmed something like this, though. But if there's room to learn, I would be interested in participating.

Re[2]: startup of netphone4linux (was [expert] There is no net phone for linux, period)

2001-02-06 Thread Rusty Carruth
"Altoine B." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are added to my list. I am goose pimply over this venture, also. Even though I do have much experience in this area. Cool. NOw all we have to do is stop sending to the expert list ;-) rc Rusty Carruth Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL

Re: [expert] There is no net phone for linux, period

2001-02-06 Thread Altoine B.
Praedor Tempus wrote: Hello. One thing to consider (not being a coder, I am not certain where this falls into the particular burgening project here - COOL! by the way) as a basis, is that all the applications out there of any note, including net2phone, dialpad, netphone, M$ netmeeting,

Re: [expert] There is no net phone for linux, period

2001-02-06 Thread Ron Heron
Al, I would love to help. Please add me to the list. I am a switching guy (the tandem/voip part) Ron -- Al -- .--. ` |__| .---. Altoine Barker |=.| |.-.| Maximum Time, Inc |--| ||$SEND|| Chicago Based Enterprise | | |'-'|

Re: [expert] There is no net phone for linux, period

2001-02-06 Thread Praedor Tempus
You know, now I am curious as to the mechanics of this. Anyone can buy a Quicknet Linkjack or phonejack card (and download the free driver). Anyone can download the openh323 software, build it and use it. What are the "mechanics" of say ME doing this and just using the net2phone and dialpad

Re: [expert] There is no net phone for linux, period

2001-02-06 Thread Altoine B.
Praedor Tempus wrote: You know, now I am curious as to the mechanics of this. Anyone can buy a Quicknet Linkjack or phonejack card (and download the free driver). Anyone can download the openh323 software, build it and use it. What are the "mechanics" of say ME doing this and just using

Re: [expert] There is no net phone for linux, period

2001-02-06 Thread Altoine B.
"Tricia C. Sesar" wrote: Te qiuero, hijo de puta??? You fucking moron! I'm a 6'3 210 lb. male; Tricia is my WIFE! BTW, I am a doctorate-level Senior Network Engineer for Genuity, a global network services provider. So, that gives me the right to tell you that you, and others on that thread,

Re: [expert] There is no net phone for linux, period

2001-02-06 Thread Cecil Watson
Bastards all. LOL!

[expert] There is no net phone for linux, period

2001-02-05 Thread Praedor Tempus
OK, I have looked and tried this and that. If you go with Yahoo messenger, it misleadingly indicates that it will do PC-to-phone calls. Nope, it will not if you run anything except windoze. It will not work for Macs, and it will not work for linux, bsd, whatever. There is ONLY windoze for

Re: [expert] There is a net phone for linux, period

2001-02-05 Thread Praedor Tempus
I saw gphone somewhere - and my impression was that it was merely another PC-to-PC system (essentially like an glorified IM, IRC-Chat, etc). I did not get the impression that it would actually dial someone's phone from the PC. Am I incorrect? On Monday 05 February 2001 16:36, Mike MacCana you

Re: [expert] There is no net phone for linux, period

2001-02-05 Thread Praedor Tempus
I just read the man page for ohphone which I got to via the HOWTO mentioned. It does NOT do PC-to-phone. It does IP-to-IP, voice over IP. This appears to be no different than, again, glorified IRC or IM with voice instead of text. It does not ring someone's phone. Unless I am mistaken (I

Re: [expert] There is no net phone for linux, period

2001-02-05 Thread Tricia C. Sesar
sigh read it thoroughly. On Tuesday 06 February 2001 00:12, you wrote: I just read the man page for ohphone which I got to via the HOWTO mentioned. It does NOT do PC-to-phone. It does IP-to-IP, voice over IP. This appears to be no different than, again, glorified IRC or IM with voice

Re: [expert] There is no net phone for linux, period

2001-02-05 Thread Marsden MacRae
Just a quick query At 05:12 PM 2/5/2001 -0700, you wrote: I just read the man page for ohphone which I got to via the HOWTO mentioned. It does NOT do PC-to-phone. It does IP-to-IP, voice over IP. This appears to be no different than, again, glorified IRC or IM with voice instead of text. It

Re: [expert] There is no net phone for linux, period

2001-02-05 Thread Praedor Tempus
Hello. Ohphone is one of a small suite of apps. It is, I suppose, similar to Roger Wilco in capability/function but it is not a GUI app. It is CLI. It will act as answering machine, caller id system, etc. On Monday 05 February 2001 17:57, Marsden MacRae wrote: Just a quick query At 05:12

Re: [expert] There is no net phone for linux, period

2001-02-05 Thread Praedor Tempus
I see at the very end, it indicates that if you have the proper hardware (Quicknet Linkjack) and a gatekeeper, you can do PC to phone. Net2phone, dialpad, etc, do not require this. The readmes and howtos on openh323 indicate that net2phone uses these standards but they do not require each

Re: [expert] There is no net phone for linux, period

2001-02-05 Thread Joseph Red
Praedor Tempus wrote: It would be real nice if someone (Redhat? Mandrake? Suse?) decided to setup a net to phone service that would work for ALL platforms and not require each and every user to have special hardware addons. This is a nice area that is absolutely not being filled by ANYONE

Re: [expert] There is no net phone for linux, period

2001-02-05 Thread Al Baker
Therefor, you need to get an IP Phone! Aj --- Marsden MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a quick query At 05:12 PM 2/5/2001 -0700, you wrote: I just read the man page for ohphone which I got to via the HOWTO mentioned. It does NOT do PC-to-phone. It does IP-to-IP, voice over IP. This

Re: [expert] There is a net phone for linux, period

2001-02-05 Thread Altoine B.
Mike MacCana wrote: Except gphone, which works brilliantly :) Hunt for it on rpmfind or google :) I downloaded the program. Now how do I use it? I tried gphone -r 2074 -l 5004, gphone -r 5004 -l 2074, gphone -r2074 -l5004, gphone -r5004 -l2074, gphone -c, and just plain gphone. I have a

Re: [expert] There is no net phone for linux, period

2001-02-05 Thread Praedor Tempus
That would be fine (except for net2phone which is going to become a pay service soon - no more free calls) but I was thinking about the general difficulty that often goes with getting a company to support linux - particularly services/companies that are so far crammed up M$ but that even

Re: [expert] There is no net phone for linux, period

2001-02-05 Thread Altoine B.
^ As I think on this, would not dialing someone's phone from the internet require a server somewhere that would take net traffic and route it to the phone switch in a certain area? Say I want to call my parents on my PC. Using the normal phone system, this is a longdistance

Re: [expert] There is no net phone for linux, period

2001-02-05 Thread Traci Collins
Praedor Tempus wrote: If I am wrong on this, then I would appreciate an explanation in correction of this. Like how me having a Quicknet linkjack on my computer here in Utah will in any way allow me to make a long distance call over the net to my parents in Colorado, without them having

Re: [expert] There is no net phone for linux, period

2001-02-05 Thread Altoine B.
Joseph Red wrote: Praedor Tempus wrote: It would be real nice if someone (Redhat? Mandrake? Suse?) decided to setup a net to phone service that would work for ALL platforms and not require each and every user to have special hardware addons. This is a nice area that is absolutely

Re: [expert] There is no net phone for linux, period

2001-02-05 Thread Altoine B.
Al Baker wrote: Therefor, you need to get an IP Phone! Aj --- Marsden MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a quick query At 05:12 PM 2/5/2001 -0700, you wrote: I just read the man page for ohphone which I got to via the HOWTO mentioned. It does NOT do PC-to-phone. It does

Re: [expert] There is no net phone for linux, period

2001-02-05 Thread Altoine B.
I have a theory that I'm going to test but I will need a little help. Anybody know of a way to "lie" about the type of browser and os in netscape 4.7x and 6? Message me privately to avoid any "issues". I'm working on a cross-platform plugin for dialpad. I will make sure that only registered