Re: [expert] How do you upgrade?
On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 21:06, Greg Meyer wrote: On Monday 17 November 2003 11:48 pm, Rob Blomquist wrote: OK, my #1 problem with running Linux is dealing with upgrades. With the upgrade from 9.0 to 9.1, the Mandrake upgrade worked pretty well, seeming to upgrade the stuff that needed, leaving alone the stuff that didn't. Now, 9.1 to 9.2 club, that was a fiasco. I finally moved my /home to a new partition, and blasted out /boot and /, installing in clean partitions. But what was left over was uploading all the little programs I like, say bidwatcher, KSetiSpy, Audacity, and the like, and nuking all the stuff I don't: devfs and supermount to name two. Then configuring a new hosts file, and setting up fstab to mount all the drives like I want them. So the big question is how do you upgrade? Or maybe you don't. Or maybe you use urpmi to pull off an upgrade that does not interfere. I wanna know, cause I love linux, but I don't want to be a slave to my computer. I upgraded my desktop machine using urpmi against a local copy of the dist tree. It went very smoothly and I really had no problems. First thing I did was urpmi itself 'urpmi urpmi', then the kernel 'urpmi kernel' then reboot, then everything else using the --auto-select switch, 'urpmi --auto-select'. Actually for me the upgrade for 9.1 to 9.2 of so far 4 boxes was the only time I've ever had a successful upgrade, on any Linux. I did what was suggested above plus a bit more. The details from my efforts + a number of others have been combined into the TWiki http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/UrpmiUpgrade Know issues with the 9.1 to 9.0 path are here as well, hopefully everyone who contributed to this one was/is thorough. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Gnome and a dialer app?
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 09:48, anton wrote: I'm using kppp in Gnome. It takes an age to start, and won't minimise into the bottom panel (or if it can then I'd like to know how...), but can't see anything else even remotely as good. I think my experiment with gnome will probably end quite soon... Anton Anton. Don't use dialup ATT myself but I think the rpm you need is called gpppwrap just do urpmi gpppwrap and try it out. James Praedor Atrebates wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I don't generally use gnome (and haven't tried it for at least 6 months or more). Last evening, in trying to locate where the problem resided with regards to my desktop and sound (or lack thereof) I started up Gnome 2.4 for the first time. Pretty nice actually. I was pleasantly suprised. What I didn't find, however, was a dialer app like kppp. I would swear that I installed all the gnome stuff when I installed 9.2 but perhaps I missed something? Is there not a dedicated gnome dialer? What's its name? praedor - -- Our ship is in the hands of pilots who are steering directly under full sail for a rock. The whole crew may see this course to violate our liberties in full view if they look the right way. - --Samuel Adams, 1771 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/uQphaKr9sJYeTxgRAkdZAJ4n1Bc8vNLugfnt/If37abQ+Ye3swCfWfIF tCzIb0mjlNh+2bgDewBXGtA= =S0h3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linuxconf
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 14:52, Greg Meyer wrote: On Monday 17 November 2003 10:40 pm, Glenn Burkhardt wrote: snip What a horrible shame! It's really the only front end for a lot of network configuration. What are the problems? I didn't find any bug reports on Cooker Bugzilla or bugs.mandrakelinux.com, or discussions in the mailing list for the last 3 months... Mandrake has completely changed it's network configuration files from what linuxconf expects. So everything gets borked if you try to use it. If you want to use it, you have a lot of work to do to make sure the right stuff is installed and the config files are in the right place. Unfortunately, if you know enough to fix it, you know enough to not need it. For networking configuration, try the drakconnect applet in Mandrake Control Center. Fortunately, that applet is much better now and makes netconf unnecessary IMO. Webmin works well with Mandrake9.2 as well, making ease of adding static routes, sub interfaces, etc it far superior to Linuxconf Cheers Mark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] garbage collection ?
hi everybody, i noticed that my 1 gig of ram is getting filled up real quick, which may be okay since i'm running a lot of programs. BUT it doesn't come down again even when i close the programs... memory use just grows and grows (slow but steady), then beginns to fill up the swap space... i hope you don't rip my head off for this, but that behaviour seems a little window-esque to me... granted, its a lot slower than on a windows box. is there anything i can do to optimise garbage collection ? tnx! lukas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] SOUND! Where is it?
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:37:43 -0800 Eric Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is maddening. It is enough, literally, to drive me to uninstall MDK 9.2 and go SuSE 9.0. I have no sound in 9.2 on my desktop. Has anyone run into this and found a fix? I tried installing the 9.1 kernel-src-2.4.21-0.13mdk rpm but it will not build on 9.2. Errors all over the place. On 9.2 I started with the default 2.4.22-10mdk kernel, then built and tried 2.4.22-21mdk. No go. No sound. I have now built the 2.4.22-multimedia kernel and...no multimedia! No sound. Same problem. There is something borked in the 2.4.22 kernel series with regards to sound. this is just a guess. I needed to do it the first time i installed 9.1 on my computer, but not the 2nd (same computer, though). Anyway, get something soundy running, then in aumix, goto mute--mute all, then toggle it again. Mine works when mute all is selected. Obviously, the toggle checkmark is backwards... eric Thanks Eric, did it for me. Hope it did it for Praedor too. BTW what is Pcm as this needs to be up as well for Xmms. -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] SOUND! Where is it?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Adams wrote: BTW what is Pcm as this needs to be up as well for Xmms. Pulse Code Modulation (digital audio) - -- KevinO AMAZING BUT TRUE ... If all the salmon caught in Canada in one year were laid end to end across the Sahara Desert, the smell would be absolutely awful. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/ufCOWOfRC7Rnmv8RAq9QAJ9l9ROm+XUaNd67OMGMtgqntkjNRQCeP3aQ AEtHAqiNO0R2u+HOSTE+URM= =Gmxq -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] garbage collection ?
On Tuesday 18 Nov 2003 9:30 am, elPunishar wrote: hi everybody, i noticed that my 1 gig of ram is getting filled up real quick, which may be okay since i'm running a lot of programs. BUT it doesn't come down again even when i close the programs... memory use just grows and grows (slow but steady), then beginns to fill up the swap space... Linux uses memory very differently from Windows. This is normal behaviour, making all memory quickly available at all times. It dynamically releases memory least likely to be needed whenever something else requires it. It's nothing to worry about at all. i hope you don't rip my head off for this, but that behaviour seems a little window-esque to me... granted, its a lot slower than on a windows box. It shouldn't be a lot slower. Things that might affect it are How much RAM have you got? How full is your drive? In a console, type df Is the drive using dma? - try hdparm -d /dev/hda (assuming hda is your drive letter) Paste here what replies you get. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] garbage collection ?
On Tuesday 18 Nov 2003 9:42 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 18 Nov 2003 9:30 am, elPunishar wrote: hi everybody, i noticed that my 1 gig of ram is getting filled up real quick, which may be okay since i'm running a lot of programs. BUT it doesn't come down again even when i close the programs... memory use just grows and grows (slow but steady), then beginns to fill up the swap space... Linux uses memory very differently from Windows. This is normal behaviour, making all memory quickly available at all times. It dynamically releases memory least likely to be needed whenever something else requires it. It's nothing to worry about at all. i hope you don't rip my head off for this, but that behaviour seems a little window-esque to me... granted, its a lot slower than on a windows box. It shouldn't be a lot slower. Things that might affect it are How much RAM have you got? How full is your drive? In a console, type df Is the drive using dma? - try hdparm -d /dev/hda (assuming hda is your drive letter) Paste here what replies you get. Anne okay, your answer clarifies that. i'm reliefed :) what i meant was: the process of using up all avalable memory is much slower than on windows. the machine runs a LOT faster than on windows! :)) output: [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# hdparm -d /dev/hda /dev/hda: using_dma= 1 (on) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How do you upgrade?
--- Rob Blomquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] With the upgrade from 9.0 to 9.1, the Mandrake upgrade worked pretty well, seeming to upgrade the stuff that needed, leaving alone the stuff that didn't. I cannot say the same thing because i had some porblem with kde menus, but i came from 8.2 before and something of kde 2.2 survived. Now, 9.1 to 9.2 club, that was a fiasco. I finally moved my /home to a new partition, and blasted out /boot and /, installing in clean partitions. But what was left over was uploading all the little programs I like, say bidwatcher, KSetiSpy, Audacity, and the like, and nuking all the stuff I don't: devfs and supermount to name two. Then configuring a new hosts file, and setting up fstab to mount all the drives like I want them. I had a lot of problem me either. I had to use grub instead of linux when installation finished because of errors i don't understood. (see my mail of upgrade: no answers) I couldn't use kde because of riva tnt2 card. I had to rebuild the driver, but no kernel source was present, so i had to download the one on the update site. To do so i had to use old kernel -of course it worked perfectly! Now my hd works with pio mode 16 bit and all seems to be slower. I patched the installation to allow installing security updates during installation, but now all my pakages have check signature fail! The key printed is the same of mine, but lower case! I upgraded k3b (rel. 10), and i cannot use it because of k3bsetup disappeared (i didn't found on kde control centre and no where else) I upgraded to 9.2 last sunday today it's the third day! what can i find more? So the big question is how do you upgrade? Or maybe you don't. Or maybe you use urpmi to pull off an upgrade that does not interfere. I wanna know, cause I love linux, but I don't want to be a slave to my computer. I'd like to know too. thanks Angelo __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] garbage collection ?
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 07:43, elPunishar wrote: On Tuesday 18 Nov 2003 9:42 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 18 Nov 2003 9:30 am, elPunishar wrote: hi everybody, i noticed that my 1 gig of ram is getting filled up real quick, which may be okay since i'm running a lot of programs. BUT it doesn't come down again even when i close the programs... memory use just grows and grows (slow but steady), then beginns to fill up the swap space... Linux uses memory very differently from Windows. This is normal behaviour, making all memory quickly available at all times. It dynamically releases memory least likely to be needed whenever something else requires it. It's nothing to worry about at all. i hope you don't rip my head off for this, but that behaviour seems a little window-esque to me... granted, its a lot slower than on a windows box. It shouldn't be a lot slower. Things that might affect it are How much RAM have you got? How full is your drive? In a console, type df Is the drive using dma? - try hdparm -d /dev/hda (assuming hda is your drive letter) Paste here what replies you get. Anne okay, your answer clarifies that. i'm reliefed :) what i meant was: the process of using up all avalable memory is much slower than on windows. the machine runs a LOT faster than on windows! :)) output: [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# hdparm -d /dev/hda /dev/hda: using_dma= 1 (on) What sounds a little strange to me is that the system starts filling the swap space. Given the amount of memory you have (1Gb) it shouldn't use the swap space (unless you have a lot of processes running simultaneously). I have read about some problems when using more than 768 Mb ram and the advise has always been passing mem=860 at the lilo prompt or in lilo.conf. Just my 2 cents. Adolfo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] garbage collection ?
On Tuesday 18 Nov 2003 11:43 am, elPunishar wrote: On Tuesday 18 Nov 2003 9:42 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 18 Nov 2003 9:30 am, elPunishar wrote: hi everybody, i noticed that my 1 gig of ram is getting filled up real quick, which may be okay since i'm running a lot of programs. BUT it doesn't come down again even when i close the programs... memory use just grows and grows (slow but steady), then beginns to fill up the swap space... Linux uses memory very differently from Windows. This is normal behaviour, making all memory quickly available at all times. It dynamically releases memory least likely to be needed whenever something else requires it. It's nothing to worry about at all. i hope you don't rip my head off for this, but that behaviour seems a little window-esque to me... granted, its a lot slower than on a windows box. It shouldn't be a lot slower. Things that might affect it are How much RAM have you got? How full is your drive? In a console, type df Is the drive using dma? - try hdparm -d /dev/hda (assuming hda is your drive letter) Paste here what replies you get. Anne okay, your answer clarifies that. i'm reliefed :) what i meant was: the process of using up all avalable memory is much slower than on windows. the machine runs a LOT faster than on windows! :)) output: [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# hdparm -d /dev/hda /dev/hda: using_dma= 1 (on) Everything looks fine. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] problem with pio mode
So there isn't any problem is it? I saw this thing because of a system that seems to be slower and with more hd access so i assumed the message ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx as something wrong on my system. --- James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 13:12, Angelo Naselli wrote: Any idea? why 16 bit ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] angelo]# /sbin/hdparm -v /dev/hda /dev/hda: multcount= 16 (on) This is what I think you are refering to. from the man page. -m Get/set sector count for multiple sector I/O on the drive. A setting of 0 disables this feature. Multiple sector mode (aka IDE Block Mode), is a feature of most modern IDE hard drives, permitting the transfer of multiple sectors per I/O interrupt, rather than the usual one sector per interrupt. When this feature is enabled, it typically reduces operating system overhead for disk I/O by 30-50%. On many systems, it also provides increased data throughput of anywhere from 5% to 50%. Some drives, however (most notably the WD Caviar series), seem to run slower with multiple mode enabled. Your mileage may vary. Most drives support the minimum settings of 2, 4, 8, or 16 (sectors). Larger settings may also be possible, depending on the drive. A setting of 16 or 32 seems optimal on many systems. Western Digital recommends lower settings of 4 to 8 on many of their drives, due tiny (32kB) drive buffers and non-optimized buffering algorithms. The -i flag can be used to find the maximum setting supported by an installed drive (look for MaxMultSect in the output). Some drives claim to support multiple mode, but lose data at some settings. Under rare circumstances, such failures can result in massive filesystem corruption. The 16 bit setting is a least common denominator. A good number of drives out there either can't do or if they do, have no gain going to 32 bit. 32 bit also increases the chance of data corruption on drives that are dicey. So MDK and others pic the method least likely to cause problems. 16bit. James IO_support = 0 (default 16-bit) unmaskirq= 0 (off) using_dma= 1 (on) keepsettings = 0 (off) readonly = 0 (off) readahead= 8 (on) geometry = 9964/255/63, sectors = 160086528, start = 0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] angelo]# dmesg [...] Serial driver version 5.05c (2001-07-08) with HUB-6 MANY_PORTS MULTIPORT SHARE_I RQ SERIAL_PCI ISAPNP enabled ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 32000K size 1024 blocksize Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00beta4-2.4 ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx SIS5513: IDE controller at PCI slot 00:02.5 SIS5513: chipset revision 208 SIS5513: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later SIS5513: SiS735 ATA 100 (2nd gen) controller ide0: BM-DMA at 0xff00-0xff07, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA ide1: BM-DMA at 0xff08-0xff0f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA hda: Maxtor 6Y080L0, ATA DISK drive blk: queue c0181bc0, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0x) hdc: SAMSUNG DVD-ROM SD-616Q, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15 hda: attached ide-disk driver. hda: host protected area = 1 hda: 160086528 sectors (81964 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=9964/255/63, UDMA(33) Partition check: /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 p2 p5 p6 p7 [...] __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linuxconf
I really wish it still worked becasue while I do know enough to not use it. It just makes life easier Tim Greg Meyer wrote: On Monday 17 November 2003 10:40 pm, Glenn Burkhardt wrote: On Monday 17 November 2003 12:15 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: On Monday 17 November 2003 11:13 am, Timothy Brown wrote: List, Please don't flame me. But where is linuxconf in M9.2 Tim It's moved to contrib, but be careful, it is really quite broken in 9.2, especially as related to Network stuff. ^^ What a horrible shame! It's really the only front end for a lot of network configuration. What are the problems? I didn't find any bug reports on Cooker Bugzilla or bugs.mandrakelinux.com, or discussions in the mailing list for the last 3 months... Mandrake has completely changed it's network configuration files from what linuxconf expects. So everything gets borked if you try to use it. If you want to use it, you have a lot of work to do to make sure the right stuff is installed and the config files are in the right place. Unfortunately, if you know enough to fix it, you know enough to not need it. For networking configuration, try the drakconnect applet in Mandrake Control Center. Fortunately, that applet is much better now and makes netconf unnecessary IMO. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- - Timothy R. Brown Webmaster The Daily Star 102 Chestnut St. Oneonta, NY 13820 Phone: (607)441-7242 Fax: (607)432-5847 - http://www.thedailystar.com http://www.coopercrier.com http://www.thecollegianonline.com http://www.cityofthehills.com http://www.theheartlandofnewyork.com - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] GCC
Anybody know reasom,why gcc-3.3.2 was downgraded in 9.2 into 3.3.1? In 9.1 it was 3.3.2. Jarmo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] garbage collection ?
On Tuesday 18 November 2003 06:08 am, Adolfo Bello wrote: I have read about some problems when using more than 768 Mb ram and the advise has always been passing mem=860 at the lilo prompt or in lilo.conf. Or use the Enterprise kernel. -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] GCC
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Jarmo wrote: Anybody know reasom,why gcc-3.3.2 was downgraded in 9.2 into 3.3.1? In 9.1 it was 3.3.2. It wasn't. 9.1 has 3.2.2. -- Stew Benedict Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] GCC
On Tuesday 18 November 2003 14:41, Stew Benedict wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Jarmo wrote: Anybody know reasom,why gcc-3.3.2 was downgraded in 9.2 into 3.3.1? In 9.1 it was 3.3.2. It wasn't. 9.1 has 3.2.2. Sorry...Missunderstanding...My BAD BAD English... In 9.1 it is 3.3.2 In 9.2 it is 3.3.1 Downgraded? Jarmo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] GCC
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Jarmo wrote: On Tuesday 18 November 2003 14:41, Stew Benedict wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Jarmo wrote: Anybody know reasom,why gcc-3.3.2 was downgraded in 9.2 into 3.3.1? In 9.1 it was 3.3.2. It wasn't. 9.1 has 3.2.2. Sorry...Missunderstanding...My BAD BAD English... In 9.1 it is 3.3.2 In 9.2 it is 3.3.1 Downgraded? I understand your English fine, just don't agree with your statement: [EMAIL PROTECTED] stew]$ cat /etc/mandrake-release Mandrake Linux release 9.1 (Bamboo) for ppc [EMAIL PROTECTED] stew]$ gcc --version gcc (GCC) 3.2.2 (Mandrake Linux 9.1 3.2.2-3mdk) It's PPC, but the versions are the same as x86. -- Stew Benedict Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linuxconf
Now I'll have to beat the Sparenberg drum - this clearly deserves a bug report. I can't do it yet, since I've just ordered my 9.2 boxed set, and don't have 9.2 installed on any systems. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] GCC
From: Jarmo [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tuesday 18 November 2003 14:41, Stew Benedict wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Jarmo wrote: Anybody know reasom,why gcc-3.3.2 was downgraded in 9.2 into 3.3.1? In 9.1 it was 3.3.2. It wasn't. 9.1 has 3.2.2. Sorry...Missunderstanding...My BAD BAD English... In 9.1 it is 3.3.2 In 9.2 it is 3.3.1 Downgraded? Nope. If you had a 3.3.2 package in 9.1 you got it somwhere else... with a fake version number I might add, as according gcc.gnu.org: GCC 3.3.2 (released 2003-10-17) and looking at a ftp site near you: ftp://ftp.song.fi/pub/linux/Mandrake/9.1/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/ you will see: 03/03/2003 12:00 4,119,793 gcc-3.2.2-3mdk.i586.rpm 03/03/2003 12:00 1,988,909 gcc-c++-3.2.2-3mdk.i586.rpm 03/03/2003 12:00 37,146 gcc-colorgcc-3.2.2-3mdk.i586.rpm 03/03/2003 12:00147,356 gcc-cpp-3.2.2-3mdk.i586.rpm 03/03/2003 12:00966,657 gcc-doc-3.2.2-3mdk.i586.rpm 03/03/2003 12:00 4,403,079 gcc-doc-pdf-3.2.2-3mdk.i586.rpm 03/03/2003 12:00 1,589,109 gcc-g77-3.2.2-3mdk.i586.rpm 03/03/2003 12:00 7,194,031 gcc-gnat-3.2.2-3mdk.i586.rpm 01/08/2003 12:00 2,324,573 gcc-gpc-2.95.3-5mdk.i586.rpm 01/08/2003 12:00457,415 gcc-gpc-devel-2.95.3-5mdk.i586.rpm 03/03/2003 12:00 1,446,712 gcc-java-3.2.2-3mdk.i586.rpm 03/03/2003 12:00 1,327,557 gcc-objc-3.2.2-3mdk.i586.rpm 03/03/2003 12:00137,731 gcj-tools-3.2.2-3mdk.i586.rpm so it's definately 3.2.2 in 9.1 -- Regards Thomas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] garbage collection ?
On Tuesday 18 November 2003 12:31 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: On Tuesday 18 November 2003 06:08 am, Adolfo Bello wrote: I have read about some problems when using more than 768 Mb ram and the advise has always been passing mem=860 at the lilo prompt or in lilo.conf. Or use the Enterprise kernel. Most reports are that the system will preform better with the regular kernel, and passing 'mem=860M' (or 880M) than using = 1 gig or ram and the enterprise kernel. The 'bigmem' memory addressing scheme the enterprise kernels use imposes a performance hit. This has been mentioned off and on on the cooker and lkml lists. It's also been my experience. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] GCC
On Tuesday 18 November 2003 15:39, Thomas Backlund wrote: so it's definately 3.2.2 SORRY GUYS.. Too much reading...Have to cut whole forrest to see trees...;-) Or wash my glasses Damn me. The point why I started to look,was that I can't get lm-sensors 2.8.0 compiled...Yes I know there is rpm...But I have so exotic mb... Asrock K7S8X with sis cipset,exept sensors are winbonds... I get: [EMAIL PROTECTED] lm_sensors-2.8.0]# make make: *** No rule to make target `/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux-gnu/3.2.2/include/stdio.h', needed by `prog/detect/dmidecode.rd'. Stop. [EMAIL PROTECTED] lm_sensors-2.8.0]# And I should have seen there 3.2.2 But anyway,there is not stdio.h in 3.3.1/include either Jarmo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Which Mandrake to Buy?
Lawson, Jim wrote: I think 120 a year is high. I would like to see this at 80. 120 is the silver level, 60 is for standard. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] GCC
On Tuesday 18 November 2003 16:01, Jarmo wrote: The point why I started to look,was that I can't get lm-sensors 2.8.0 compiled...Yes I know there is rpm...But I have so exotic mb... Asrock K7S8X with sis cipset,exept sensors are winbonds... No worry anymore.Downloaded lm-sensors 2.8.1 as well as i2c-2.8.1 and got them working... Again sorry for bothering... Jarmo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Which Mandrake to Buy?
What is the difference? Does silver offer anything more? -Original Message- From: Eric Fernandez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 8:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Which Mandrake to Buy? Lawson, Jim wrote: I think 120 a year is high. I would like to see this at 80. 120 is the silver level, 60 is for standard. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] garbage collection ?
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 01:30, elPunishar wrote: hi everybody, i noticed that my 1 gig of ram is getting filled up real quick, which may be okay since i'm running a lot of programs. BUT it doesn't come down again even when i close the programs... memory use just grows and grows (slow but steady), then beginns to fill up the swap space... memory at 80% full is normal disk caching, and Windows does it too (they just don't report it). Growing usage and using swap may not be normal though. Try running top and pressing M to sort by memory usage, then watch it. You may have an app leaking memory. ... -- Jack at Monkeynoodle Dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture... I couldn't guarantee that I wouldn't do wrong, not sure what it is I'd be saving you from... heaven's blue and it's vaulted white, every breath you take takes mine, gotta see it's no good leaving it up to me to make you happy. -- Hanging By Strands from Homeless Where The Heart Is by Barbara Manning and the Go-Luckys! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Sound configuration on Dell Inspiron 3200?
On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 21:41, Rob Blomquist wrote: On Monday 17 November 2003 9:22 am, Björn Lundin wrote: James Sparenberg wrote: Rob draksound AFAIK is only effective on PCI type cards. Since your is ISA, using the old standby of sndconfig (just urpmi sndconfig) This should bring you online no sweat. One note. You have to run it from a regular tty not a konsole or xterm window for it to work right. I've used this chipset in the past and it works well, sndconfig has it in it's database and can get you up. I have a 4236-card which sndconfig can get sound from, but it have not, (since mdk8.1) been able to save its settings. Every time i install a new mdk since then I've had to resort to run pnpdump + isapnp, and comment out when given multiple choise. I also put alias sound-slot-0 cs4232 options sound dmabuf=1 alias synth0 opl3 options opl3 io=0x388 options cs4232 io=0x530 irq=5 dma=0 dma2=0 mpuio=0x330 mpuirq=10 Well, I found that the problem is not with the sound card, thanks to you guys. Bjorn gave me a tip in the options cs4232 line with the mpuirq=10, and I got it up and running, but only in console. Yep, in tty1, I was able to play an mp3 with mp3blaster. But when I get over to the graphical side, running XMMS completely locks up the system. The mouse is dead, the keyboard is dead, the whole freakin' thing. It doesn't crash until a sound is made. Attempting to play an mp3 kills it, and generating a tone with the tone generator plugin kills the system. So then I wondered if it was something about the sound system, and I installed Kaboodle, and attempted to play an mp3. Same deal. DOA. I am wondering if its and IRQ problem, but it doesn't seem so. Now, I appear to be using IRQ9 for mpu and IRQ 5 for sound. IRQ 9 does not show up in /proc/interrupts, however IRQ 5 is shown to be used by Crystal Audio Controller. Where do I go from here? Rob you're a KDE user, aren't you? in the DM you're using (e.g. mdkkdm, kdm, gdm, xdm) make sure that X is not being niced: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg129204.html kcontrol, stop artsd from running with real time priority. xmms, make sure it's using arts output plugin (may need to install xmms-arts), don't allow it to run with realtime either. log out, then CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE to make the DM changes take effect, then log back in and you should be fine. -- Jack at Monkeynoodle Dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture... We knocked another couple back, The dead soldiers lined up on the table still prepared for an attack, they didn't know they'd been disabled. Baby Britain from XO by Elliott Smith Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] strange network (vnc) problem
When I try to log into my vnc server using vnc viewer (both boxes use mdk 9.1) the screen appears but suddenly closes itself after a few seconds. This is the server log (most relevant part only): 18/11/2003 11:40:10 Got connection from client 192.168.1.18 18/11/2003 11:40:10 Protocol version 3.3 18/11/2003 11:40:12 Full-control authentication passed by 192.168.1.18 18/11/2003 11:40:12 Pixel format for client 192.168.1.18: 18/11/2003 11:40:12 16 bpp, depth 16, little endian 18/11/2003 11:40:12 true colour: max r 31 g 63 b 31, shift r 11 g 5 b 0 18/11/2003 11:40:12 Using copyrect encoding for client 192.168.1.18 18/11/2003 11:40:12 Using tight encoding for client 192.168.1.18 18/11/2003 11:40:12 Using compression level 1 for client 192.168.1.18 18/11/2003 11:40:12 Using image quality level 6 for client 192.168.1.18 18/11/2003 11:40:12 Enabling X-style cursor updates for client 192.168.1.18 18/11/2003 11:40:12 Enabling cursor position updates for client 192.168.1.18 18/11/2003 11:40:12 Enabling LastRect protocol extension for client 192.168.1.18 18/11/2003 11:40:22 WriteExact: select: Interrupted system call 18/11/2003 11:40:22 rfbSendUpdateBuf: write: Interrupted system call 18/11/2003 11:40:22 Client 192.168.1.18 gone I can see that those Interrupted system call are the problem, but what does this mean? How can I fix it? Thanks in advance, Leonardo Sá _ MSN Messenger: converse com os seus amigos online. http://messenger.msn.com.br Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Which Mandrake to Buy?
Lawson, Jim wrote: What is the difference? Does silver offer anything more? Silver members could download the isos of the powerpack through bittorrent. However, standard members have the download edition + access to all commercial packages, so you have exactly the equivalent of a powerpack. You just have to install commercial applications by yourself (for example pre compiled ATI or nvidia drivers), on a powerpack it would be installed during the OS installation. But urpmi/rpmdrake makes it easy to use, since club repositories are media like any others (with login/password access). So you just need to install the download edition, add the club media (commercial, test) and you have an equivalent access to the CDs of the powerpack. See my guide about the software installer and media management : http://www.zebulon.org.uk/ICML0.HTML Cheers. Eric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] SOUND! Where is it?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Unfortunately the mute/unmute trick with aumix didn't work for me. All I get is very faint static over the speakers whenever I manipulate the volume sliders (pretty much any of them). If I crank up my speaker volume to max and try to test sound/arts via control center, I don't even hear faint sounds. Playing music cds works fine, however. I also tried killing artsd and trying to get sound working through esound. Nope. The system is broken before any sound daemons, in the drivers somewhere. My next trick, since I cannot build a 9.1 kernel on 9.2 is to simply try installing a binary 9.1 kernel on my desktop and see if I can get away with that. No 9.2 kernel I've tried, binary or self-built, works with sound on my system. praedor On Tuesday 18 November 2003 04:29 am, Michael Adams wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:37:43 -0800 Eric Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is maddening. It is enough, literally, to drive me to uninstall MDK 9.2 and go SuSE 9.0. I have no sound in 9.2 on my desktop. Has anyone run into this and found a fix? I tried installing the 9.1 kernel-src-2.4.21-0.13mdk rpm but it will not build on 9.2. [...] Anyway, get something soundy running, then in aumix, goto mute--mute all, then toggle it again. Mine works when mute all is selected. Obviously, the toggle checkmark is backwards... [...] Thanks Eric, did it for me. Hope it did it for Praedor too. BTW what is Pcm as this needs to be up as well for Xmms. - -- Events are in the saddle and ride mankind. - --Ralph Waldo Emerson -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/uj7PaKr9sJYeTxgRAto8AKC6mAgM4yfZ8Nb7XB7M2F4xjjbKfgCbB/Oj roQ0lcFthArbg2ahWzaG5vU= =DD7S -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Linuxconf
-Original Message- From: Charlie M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 11:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Linuxconf -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Monday 17 November 2003 9:13 am, Timothy Brown wrote: List, Please don't flame me. But where is linuxconf in M9.2 Tim Flame? Why would anyone do that? Just out of curiosity Tim, are you coming from Red Hat ? ;) __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linuxconf
Well I long time ago I used it but for the last few years I have been using Mandrake I have used 8.2-9.2 Tim Tango Echo wrote: -Original Message- From: Charlie M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 11:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Linuxconf -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Monday 17 November 2003 9:13 am, Timothy Brown wrote: List, Please don't flame me. But where is linuxconf in M9.2 Tim Flame? Why would anyone do that? Just out of curiosity Tim, are you coming from Red Hat ? ;) __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- - Timothy R. Brown Webmaster The Daily Star 102 Chestnut St. Oneonta, NY 13820 Phone: (607)441-7242 Fax: (607)432-5847 - http://www.thedailystar.com http://www.coopercrier.com http://www.thecollegianonline.com http://www.cityofthehills.com http://www.theheartlandofnewyork.com - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Linuxconf
Lol, ok... Guess I should be dispelling my impression that the Red Hat community support group consists of flames and RTFMs. Huh, must've been my experiences on Dalnet. -Original Message- From: Timothy Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 11:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Linuxconf Well I long time ago I used it but for the last few years I have been using Mandrake I have used 8.2-9.2 Tim Tango Echo wrote: -Original Message- From: Charlie M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 11:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Linuxconf -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Monday 17 November 2003 9:13 am, Timothy Brown wrote: List, Please don't flame me. But where is linuxconf in M9.2 Tim Flame? Why would anyone do that? Just out of curiosity Tim, are you coming from Red Hat ? ;) __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linuxconf
lol :) Tango Echo wrote: Lol, ok... Guess I should be dispelling my impression that the Red Hat community support group consists of flames and RTFMs. Huh, must've been my experiences on Dalnet. -Original Message- From: Timothy Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 11:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Linuxconf Well I long time ago I used it but for the last few years I have been using Mandrake I have used 8.2-9.2 Tim Tango Echo wrote: -Original Message- From: Charlie M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 11:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Linuxconf -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Monday 17 November 2003 9:13 am, Timothy Brown wrote: List, Please don't flame me. But where is linuxconf in M9.2 Tim Flame? Why would anyone do that? Just out of curiosity Tim, are you coming from Red Hat ? ;) __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- - Timothy R. Brown Webmaster The Daily Star 102 Chestnut St. Oneonta, NY 13820 Phone: (607)441-7242 Fax: (607)432-5847 - http://www.thedailystar.com http://www.coopercrier.com http://www.thecollegianonline.com http://www.cityofthehills.com http://www.theheartlandofnewyork.com - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] garbage collection ?
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 06:35, Jack Coates wrote: On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 01:30, elPunishar wrote: hi everybody, i noticed that my 1 gig of ram is getting filled up real quick, which may be okay since i'm running a lot of programs. BUT it doesn't come down again even when i close the programs... memory use just grows and grows (slow but steady), then beginns to fill up the swap space... memory at 80% full is normal disk caching, and Windows does it too (they just don't report it). Growing usage and using swap may not be normal though. Try running top and pressing M to sort by memory usage, then watch it. You may have an app leaking memory. ... -- Jack at Monkeynoodle Dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture... Curious, I have 512M ram and 256M swap - top shows I'm using 198M of mem and none of my swap - I've been running my computer all morning and I've got a few apps open. Why would 80% of 1G of memory be normal? -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com == 0. Just add yourself to the password file and make a directory... --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Samsung LCD monitor
Hello, I'm trying to set up a LM 9.2 box with a Samsung 173V LCD monitor. The graphics card is an onboard SiS Savage 8 chip. XFree86 runs OK, but when I reboot I frequently get a black screen. When I unplug the monitor for a few seconds and get a no signal message, then plug it in, everything is OK. I noticed a similar behavior on a different box when I was installing Win98 when booting from a floppy disk. After it was installed, Win98 and the monitor seem OK on that box. I'm wondering is this more likely to be an issue with XFree86 and the graphics card, or a problem with the monitor itself? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] garbage collection ?
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 09:50, Michael Holt wrote: On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 06:35, Jack Coates wrote: On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 01:30, elPunishar wrote: hi everybody, i noticed that my 1 gig of ram is getting filled up real quick, which may be okay since i'm running a lot of programs. BUT it doesn't come down again even when i close the programs... memory use just grows and grows (slow but steady), then beginns to fill up the swap space... memory at 80% full is normal disk caching, and Windows does it too (they just don't report it). Growing usage and using swap may not be normal though. Try running top and pressing M to sort by memory usage, then watch it. You may have an app leaking memory. ... -- Jack at Monkeynoodle Dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture... Curious, I have 512M ram and 256M swap - top shows I'm using 198M of mem and none of my swap - I've been running my computer all morning and I've got a few apps open. Why would 80% of 1G of memory be normal? well, it's normal for me :-) I've read that the VMM will allocate as much RAM as feasible and practical to disk caching. -- Jack at Monkeynoodle Dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture... Take my hand and dry your tears babe, take my hand and forget your fears babe, there's no more pain, there's no more sorrow, they've all gone, gone in the years babe. -- The Broad Majestic Shannon from If I Should Fall From Grace With God by The P ogues Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] SOUND! Where is it?
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:46:15 -0500 Praedor Atrebates [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribed on electronic parchment: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Unfortunately the mute/unmute trick with aumix didn't work for me. All I get is very faint static over the speakers whenever I manipulate the volume sliders (pretty much any of them). If I crank up my speaker volume to max and try to test sound/arts via control center, I don't even hear faint sounds. Playing music cds works fine, however. I also tried killing artsd and trying to get sound working through esound. Nope. The system is broken before any sound daemons, in the drivers somewhere. This may not be any help, but this just came through Cooker Bug, and I don't see that anyone mentioned kernel boot parameters. NOTE his *last* sentence: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5821 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-11-18 18:39 --- I'm having the same problem (freezing during boot when ACPI is enabled) on a Toshiba Satellite 5105 installing from the PowerPack 9.2 DVD. Unfortunatly, the nolapic option didn't work for me. I'm relatively new to kernel options, so I may be applying incorrectly. I added nolapic to my append list in lilo.conf and then ran lilo, but it still freezes. Are there any other options to get this working? I think it's also causing other things to go wrong with my machine, like the sound not working. My sound didn't work with 9.1 until I enabled ACPI, then like magic, it was fine. -- _ ( ) ASCII ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail x registered Linux user # 329428 / \ GnuPG KeyID 6B5A70DF www.keyserver.net pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] garbage collection ?
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 10:11, Jack Coates wrote: Curious, I have 512M ram and 256M swap - top shows I'm using 198M of mem and none of my swap - I've been running my computer all morning and I've got a few apps open. Why would 80% of 1G of memory be normal? well, it's normal for me :-) I've read that the VMM will allocate as much RAM as feasible and practical to disk caching. -- Jack at Monkeynoodle Dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture... LOL, I didn't mean anything by it, I've heard that too and wondered what the basis was :) -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com == 50. [looks at workstation] Say, what version of Dos is this running? --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Powerpack Md5sums
I need the md5sums for the powerpack edition downloaded from bittorrent. Who's got em? And no I don't care about the theoretically infallible bittorrent checksums, I just want to check the iso's myself. LX -- °°° Linux Mandrake 9.1 Kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk Lets face it if winblowz wasn't full of holes then it would probably look like Linux -- Aron Smith, Mandrake OT mailing list *Catch Star Trek Enterprise, Wednesdays on UPN* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] SOUND! Where is it?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thanks. Actually, I DO suspect apic/apci (I can never keep the two straight). If I disable APIC in the kernel, then 9.2 will not bootup. It freezes shortly after starting the bootup process. This was true during install as well. I had to turn on APIC to get bootup and install. I have tried the noapic switch when booting kernels but it doesn't change anything (still no sound). I have acpi=ht in my kernel options line in lilo (default setup from install). I have tried acpi=off but this doesn't change anything either (still no sound). Somewhere there is a problem in the kernel or the alsa drivers, or perhaps both. It is suspicious that it is impossible to boot a kernel if APIC is disabled (all previous installs of Mandrake up to 9.1 required that I disable APIC in bios to get a fully functional and stable system). SuSE 9.0 uses a modified 2.4.21 kernel (modified with many 2.6.x additions) and it works fine, sound included. I suspect the 2.4.22 kernel series itself. praedor On Tuesday 18 November 2003 05:09 am, Tim Sawchuck wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:46:15 -0500 Praedor Atrebates [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribed on electronic parchment: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Unfortunately the mute/unmute trick with aumix didn't work for me. All I get is very faint static over the speakers whenever I manipulate the [...] --- I'm having the same problem (freezing during boot when ACPI is enabled) on a Toshiba Satellite 5105 installing from the PowerPack 9.2 DVD. Unfortunatly, the nolapic option didn't work for me. I'm relatively new to kernel options, so I may be applying incorrectly. I added nolapic to my append list in lilo.conf and then ran lilo, but it still freezes. Are there any other options to get this working? I think it's also causing other things to go wrong with my machine, like the sound not working. My sound didn't work with 9.1 until I enabled ACPI, then like magic, it was fine. - -- Events are in the saddle and ride mankind. - --Ralph Waldo Emerson -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/umZkaKr9sJYeTxgRAg8BAKCCT1IhPdu/i2DPOZnUkL+qc8VkOwCfd3tb 5zqAPUMyDRqHsgx4gWlfQ2k= =/H99 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Samsung LCD monitor
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Daniel Axtell wrote: XFree86 runs OK, but when I reboot I frequently get a black screen. When I unplug the monitor for a few seconds and get a no signal message, then plug it in, everything is OK. I noticed a similar behavior on a different box when I was installing Win98 when booting from a floppy disk. After it was installed, Win98 and the monitor seem OK on that box. I see this sometimes, too (Abit AT7/MAX2, Gainward GeForce4 w/ TI4800, Dual Iiyama-TFT; from time to time, the second one stays black). If I understand it correctly, it's a problem with the _graphics card_/mainboard (power consumption peak, therefore no proper initialisation takes place); when you repeat the initialisation process, either by un-/re-plugging the monitor or invoking a graphics driver (-Windows/XFree startup), chances are that no peak is triggered. (Note that during a reboot, many devices are reset at once; if your BIOS does allow it, you may try -- at your own risk! -- to adjust voltages) ... HTH, -- Dipl.-Inf. Markus Ueberall Johann Wolfgang Goethe-Universität Tel: (069)798-28361 Fax: -23340Institut für Informatik / Telematik Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] java in my path?
Hey, I need to know where to go to add the java binary to my path - who do I modify? -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com == 92. What software license? --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Powerpack Md5sums
http://www.mandrakeclub.com/article.php?sid=1302 The powerpack ones are at the bottom of the page I believe. David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lyvim Xaphir Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 10:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] Powerpack Md5sums I need the md5sums for the powerpack edition downloaded from bittorrent. Who's got em? And no I don't care about the theoretically infallible bittorrent checksums, I just want to check the iso's myself. LX -- °°° Linux Mandrake 9.1 Kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk Lets face it if winblowz wasn't full of holes then it would probably look like Linux -- Aron Smith, Mandrake OT mailing list *Catch Star Trek Enterprise, Wednesdays on UPN* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] garbage collection ?
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 10:18, Michael Holt wrote: On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 10:11, Jack Coates wrote: Curious, I have 512M ram and 256M swap - top shows I'm using 198M of mem and none of my swap - I've been running my computer all morning and I've got a few apps open. Why would 80% of 1G of memory be normal? well, it's normal for me :-) I've read that the VMM will allocate as much RAM as feasible and practical to disk caching. -- Jack at Monkeynoodle Dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture... LOL, I didn't mean anything by it, I've heard that too and wondered what the basis was :) If I do a cat on /proc/meminfo total:used:free: shared: buffers: cached: Mem: 390709248 371380224 193290240 13205504 181313536 Swap: 1230839808 48295936 1182543872 MemTotal: 381552 kB MemFree: 18876 kB MemShared: 0 kB Buffers: 12896 kB Cached: 172232 kB SwapCached: 4832 kB Active: 147668 kB Inactive: 190916 kB HighTotal: 0 kB HighFree:0 kB LowTotal: 381552 kB LowFree: 18876 kB SwapTotal: 1201992 kB SwapFree: 1154828 kB And the only thing beyond kde open is evolution. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] java in my path?
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 11:16, Michael Holt wrote: Hey, I need to know where to go to add the java binary to my path - who do I modify? just you: edit ~/.bash_profile JAVA_HOME=/usr/java/j2re1.4.0_01/ export JAVA_HOME PATH=$PATH:$JAVA_HOME/bin everyone -- edit /etc/profile and add the same. -- Jack at Monkeynoodle Dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture... Through counterintelligence it should be possible to pinpoint potential troublemakers and neutralize them... -- Wake Up by Rage Against The Machine Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] problem with pio mode
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 03:32, Angelo Naselli wrote: So there isn't any problem is it? I saw this thing because of a system that seems to be slower and with more hd access so i assumed the message ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx as something wrong on my system. No problem. You might try doing hdparm -m 32 to see if it speeds up disk access. But the reference to PIO mode would only affect you directly if you had some really old HDD's or CD drives on the box. The PIO IDE bus and the UDMA IDE bus are different (Although I don't have all of the details on the difference.) and you use one but not the other. james --- James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 13:12, Angelo Naselli wrote: Any idea? why 16 bit ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] angelo]# /sbin/hdparm -v /dev/hda /dev/hda: multcount= 16 (on) This is what I think you are refering to. from the man page. -m Get/set sector count for multiple sector I/O on the drive. A setting of 0 disables this feature. Multiple sector mode (aka IDE Block Mode), is a feature of most modern IDE hard drives, permitting the transfer of multiple sectors per I/O interrupt, rather than the usual one sector per interrupt. When this feature is enabled, it typically reduces operating system overhead for disk I/O by 30-50%. On many systems, it also provides increased data throughput of anywhere from 5% to 50%. Some drives, however (most notably the WD Caviar series), seem to run slower withmultiple mode enabled. Your mileage may vary. Most drives support the minimum settings of 2, 4, 8, or 16 (sectors). Larger settings may also be possible, depending on the drive. A setting of 16 or 32 seems optimal on many systems. Western Digital recommends lower settings of 4 to 8 on many of their drives, due tiny (32kB) drive buffers and non-optimized buffering algorithms. The -i flag can be used to find the maximum setting supported by an installed drive (look for MaxMultSect in the output). Some drives claim to support multiple mode, but lose data at some settings. Under rare circumstances, such failures can result in massive filesystem corruption. The 16 bit setting is a least common denominator. A good number of drives out there either can't do or if they do, have no gain going to 32 bit. 32 bit also increases the chance of data corruption on drives that are dicey. So MDK and others pic the method least likely to cause problems. 16bit. James IO_support = 0 (default 16-bit) unmaskirq= 0 (off) using_dma= 1 (on) keepsettings = 0 (off) readonly = 0 (off) readahead= 8 (on) geometry = 9964/255/63, sectors = 160086528, start = 0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] angelo]# dmesg [...] Serial driver version 5.05c (2001-07-08) with HUB-6 MANY_PORTS MULTIPORT SHARE_I RQ SERIAL_PCI ISAPNP enabled ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 32000K size 1024 blocksize Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00beta4-2.4 ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx SIS5513: IDE controller at PCI slot 00:02.5 SIS5513: chipset revision 208 SIS5513: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later SIS5513: SiS735 ATA 100 (2nd gen) controller ide0: BM-DMA at 0xff00-0xff07, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA ide1: BM-DMA at 0xff08-0xff0f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA hda: Maxtor 6Y080L0, ATA DISK drive blk: queue c0181bc0, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0x) hdc: SAMSUNG DVD-ROM SD-616Q, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15 hda: attached ide-disk driver. hda: host protected area = 1 hda: 160086528 sectors (81964 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=9964/255/63, UDMA(33) Partition check: /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 p2 p5 p6 p7 [...] __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to
Re: [expert] GCC
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 05:10, Jarmo wrote: On Tuesday 18 November 2003 14:41, Stew Benedict wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Jarmo wrote: Anybody know reasom,why gcc-3.3.2 was downgraded in 9.2 into 3.3.1? In 9.1 it was 3.3.2. It wasn't. 9.1 has 3.2.2. Sorry...Missunderstanding...My BAD BAD English... In 9.1 it is 3.3.2 In 9.2 it is 3.3.1 Downgraded? Jarmo Jarmo, My 9.1 is at 3.2.2 dunno where you got the upgrade but the stock is 3.2.2 James __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] GCC
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 06:23, Jarmo wrote: On Tuesday 18 November 2003 16:01, Jarmo wrote: The point why I started to look,was that I can't get lm-sensors 2.8.0 compiled...Yes I know there is rpm...But I have so exotic mb... Asrock K7S8X with sis cipset,exept sensors are winbonds... No worry anymore.Downloaded lm-sensors 2.8.1 as well as i2c-2.8.1 and got them working... Again sorry for bothering... Jarmo No bother... btw I've got the stdio.h from package gcc-3.2.2 hmmm curiouser and curiouser. James __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] problem with pio mode
From: James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 03:32, Angelo Naselli wrote: So there isn't any problem is it? I saw this thing because of a system that seems to be slower and with more hd access so i assumed the message ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx as something wrong on my system. No problem. You might try doing hdparm -m 32 to see if it speeds up disk access. But the reference to PIO mode would only affect you directly if you had some really old HDD's or CD drives on the box. The PIO IDE bus and the UDMA IDE bus are different (Although I don't have all of the details on the difference.) and you use one but not the other. Actually the bus is the same, it's only the data flow protocol on the bus that changes... running the bus in pio mode means that your cpu workload will get high since it has to be in charge of moving all the data to and from ram... but when the bus is running dma, the data from the hdd to ram will bypass your cpu (and leave it free for other work) and rely an the dma controller to make sure the data gets to/from ram. going from dma to udma adds crc32 checking to the transfers, thus enabling higher transfer speeds without transfer errors ... So, in short... to gain full speed from a pio hdd, your cpu will run with 60-99% workload, whereas running udma will keep it around 3-5% ( of course your might see different values, but this was only a generic example) -- Regards Thomas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] problem with pio mode
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 12:02, Thomas Backlund wrote: From: James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 03:32, Angelo Naselli wrote: So there isn't any problem is it? I saw this thing because of a system that seems to be slower and with more hd access so i assumed the message ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx as something wrong on my system. No problem. You might try doing hdparm -m 32 to see if it speeds up disk access. But the reference to PIO mode would only affect you directly if you had some really old HDD's or CD drives on the box. The PIO IDE bus and the UDMA IDE bus are different (Although I don't have all of the details on the difference.) and you use one but not the other. Actually the bus is the same, it's only the data flow protocol on the bus that changes... True enough I knew what I meant ... not what I said. *grin* running the bus in pio mode means that your cpu workload will get high since it has to be in charge of moving all the data to and from ram... but when the bus is running dma, the data from the hdd to ram will bypass your cpu (and leave it free for other work) and rely an the dma controller to make sure the data gets to/from ram. going from dma to udma adds crc32 checking to the transfers, thus enabling higher transfer speeds without transfer errors ... So, in short... to gain full speed from a pio hdd, your cpu will run with 60-99% workload, whereas running udma will keep it around 3-5% ( of course your might see different values, but this was only a generic example) -- Regards Thomas __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] urpmi questions
Last question.
Is there a way to get a package description of the available packages
through urpmi?
I swear I was able to do so, but dont recall how to do it now. :/
On a side note, anyone have any thoughts on whether 9.1 or 9.2 is better
suited for production right now?
Jason
At 08:37 AM 11/14/2003 -0600, you wrote:
On Thursday 13 November 2003 08:27 pm, Vox wrote:
On September 1993 plus 3725 days Jason Williams wrote:
Is there a way to list the packages that are available to
download?
urpmq --list will give you a list of all available
packages, without versions. urpmq --fuzzy samba will give you
all packages that have samba in the name or description. I
recommend reading the man pages for all the urpm* commands.
You can also install urpmc ('urpmi urpmc'). Then after you
update your sources, simply typing 'urpmc' will list all the
available updates (with version numbers) from all sources. EG,
tom # urpmc
club uses a synthesis file. Cannot output changelog.
Will list package names only. Reconfigure the medium to use
a hdlist file to get a changelog.
kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk - kernel-source-2.4.22-25mdk
Even ones you may have in your /etc/urpmi/skip.list (I have
kernel-source in my skiplist). Suggestion, use
'synthesis.hdlist's for your sources, otherwise the list will
also include changelog, and could be very long. I get Cannot
output changelog. because I only use synthesis.hdlist's.
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Re: [expert] urpmi questions
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 12:07, Jason Williams wrote:
Last question.
Is there a way to get a package description of the available packages
through urpmi?
I swear I was able to do so, but dont recall how to do it now. :/
urpmi urpmc and then use it to find what's available. (Only in 9.2 att
but the src rpm does build on 9.1)
On a side note, anyone have any thoughts on whether 9.1 or 9.2 is better
suited for production right now?
Jason
At 08:37 AM 11/14/2003 -0600, you wrote:
On Thursday 13 November 2003 08:27 pm, Vox wrote:
On September 1993 plus 3725 days Jason Williams wrote:
Is there a way to list the packages that are available to
download?
urpmq --list will give you a list of all available
packages, without versions. urpmq --fuzzy samba will give you
all packages that have samba in the name or description. I
recommend reading the man pages for all the urpm* commands.
You can also install urpmc ('urpmi urpmc'). Then after you
update your sources, simply typing 'urpmc' will list all the
available updates (with version numbers) from all sources. EG,
tom # urpmc
club uses a synthesis file. Cannot output changelog.
Will list package names only. Reconfigure the medium to use
a hdlist file to get a changelog.
kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk - kernel-source-2.4.22-25mdk
Even ones you may have in your /etc/urpmi/skip.list (I have
kernel-source in my skiplist). Suggestion, use
'synthesis.hdlist's for your sources, otherwise the list will
also include changelog, and could be very long. I get Cannot
output changelog. because I only use synthesis.hdlist's.
--
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Re: [expert] java in my path?
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 11:37, Jack Coates wrote: On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 11:16, Michael Holt wrote: Hey, I need to know where to go to add the java binary to my path - who do I modify? just you: edit ~/.bash_profile JAVA_HOME=/usr/java/j2re1.4.0_01/ export JAVA_HOME PATH=$PATH:$JAVA_HOME/bin everyone -- edit /etc/profile and add the same. Ahh... thank you Sir! -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com == Windows NT source code now available... download WIN2000.BAS now! -- From a Slashdot.org post Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] urpmi questions
At 12:17 PM 11/18/2003 -0800, you wrote: urpmi urpmc and then use it to find what's available. (Only in 9.2 att but the src rpm does build on 9.1) Ok...grabbed urpmc. I currently dont have any samba or LDAP installed. However, in playing with urpmi, I see there are quite a few packages available to download. That is why i was trying to find a description of the packages, before I start downloading them. I may grab a different one if I like what it may offer. Dang it...I dont recall now. : Jason Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] garbage collection ?
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 11:36, James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 10:18, Michael Holt wrote: On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 10:11, Jack Coates wrote: Curious, I have 512M ram and 256M swap - top shows I'm using 198M of mem and none of my swap - I've been running my computer all morning and I've got a few apps open. Why would 80% of 1G of memory be normal? well, it's normal for me :-) I've read that the VMM will allocate as much RAM as feasible and practical to disk caching. -- Jack at Monkeynoodle Dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture... LOL, I didn't mean anything by it, I've heard that too and wondered what the basis was :) If I do a cat on /proc/meminfo total:used:free: shared: buffers: cached: Mem: 390709248 371380224 193290240 13205504 181313536 Swap: 1230839808 48295936 1182543872 MemTotal: 381552 kB MemFree: 18876 kB MemShared: 0 kB Buffers: 12896 kB Cached: 172232 kB SwapCached: 4832 kB Active: 147668 kB Inactive: 190916 kB HighTotal: 0 kB HighFree:0 kB LowTotal: 381552 kB LowFree: 18876 kB SwapTotal: 1201992 kB SwapFree: 1154828 kB And the only thing beyond kde open is evolution. James Ok, now I'm seeing what you guys are saying. I did cat /proc/meminfo and got similar results. Then I started vmware+WinXP and this was my output: total:used:free: shared: buffers: cached: Mem: 527233024 522104832 5128192045056 423895040 Swap: 263168000 626688 262541312 MemTotal: 514876 kB MemFree: 5008 kB MemShared: 0 kB Buffers:44 kB Cached: 413416 kB SwapCached:544 kB Active: 125232 kB Inactive: 24 kB HighTotal: 0 kB HighFree:0 kB LowTotal: 514876 kB LowFree: 5008 kB SwapTotal: 257000 kB SwapFree: 256388 kB Committed_AS: 148076 kB Then I killed vmware and tried again: total:used:free: shared: buffers: cached: Mem: 527233024 477216768 50016256040960 384438272 Swap: 263168000 626688 262541312 MemTotal: 514876 kB MemFree: 48844 kB MemShared: 0 kB Buffers:40 kB Cached: 374884 kB SwapCached:544 kB Active: 120796 kB Inactive: 254776 kB HighTotal: 0 kB HighFree:0 kB LowTotal: 514876 kB LowFree: 48844 kB SwapTotal: 257000 kB SwapFree: 256388 kB Committed_AS: 112800 kB I gained some back, but not as much as I originally had free. That's strange, when I looked at it an hour ago, I had barely used any memory and none of my swap. So I must have just not had enough opened this morning? Now I'm going to have to shut down and see what it looks like - maybe I'll run root-tail and keep an eye on it. -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com == Windows is the best $89 solitaire game you can buy. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] garbage collection ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 11:43:06 +, elPunishar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about Re: [expert] garbage collection ?: what i meant was: the process of using up all avalable memory is much slower than on windows. the machine runs a LOT faster than on windows! :)) YMMV: I have 458 MB of RAM, 1024 Mb of swap and my machine is a lot slower under KDE than under W2K. But with IceWM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (24/24h) runs only marginally slower than under W2K. Granted, I cannot compare the differences in coding the Unix and Windows versions of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Still, swap is never used a lot. Perhaps with OpenOffice.org, but I didn`t have time to run the new version from the CD`s. My fs is ext3. And it made a lot of difference when I disabled swsusp: I could feel it slowing me down at nice 0, less so when I reniced it to 19. Now it`s noapic apic-ht period for me. Hibernation undesirable :-) Regards, =Dick Gevers= -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Encryption is an envelope - the contents are private. iD8DBQE/uoX9wC/zk+cxEdMRAvQDAJ9gmn33zTJwaj0G+CCwmc5lBDiINwCfdDAM ro8GXF+pC7oeL4sB0Ovd/oQ= =BDbD -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How do you upgrade?
On September 1993 plus 3729 days Rob Blomquist wrote: So the big question is how do you upgrade? Or maybe you don't. Or maybe you use urpmi to pull off an upgrade that does not interfere. I wanna know, cause I love linux, but I don't want to be a slave to my computer. I urpmi...I've been urpmi'ing since 8.1 (or 8.2). Some times strange things happen with some packages, like happened with the kde split of 9.1-9.2 but if you pay attention, it's usually easy to fix afterwards. Vox -- Think of the Linux community as a niche economy isolated by its beliefs. Kind of like the Amish, except that our religion requires us to use _higher_ technology than everyone else. -- Donald B. Marti Jr. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] garbage collection ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 12:35:46 -0800, Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about Re: [expert] garbage collection ?: Ok, now I'm seeing what you guys are saying. I did cat /proc/meminfo and got similar results. Then I started vmware+WinXP and this was my output: Okay. Is this a poker game? Mine: total:used:free: shared: buffers: cached: Mem: 461123584 441339904 197836800 7800 127008768 Swap: 10527948800 1052794880 MemTotal: 450316 kB MemFree: 19320 kB MemShared: 0 kB Buffers: 72700 kB Cached: 124032 kB SwapCached: 0 kB Active: 111096 kB Inactive:85700 kB HighTotal: 0 kB HighFree:0 kB LowTotal: 450316 kB LowFree: 19320 kB SwapTotal: 1028120 kB SwapFree: 1028120 kB Committed_AS:62536 kB Running [EMAIL PROTECTED] niced at -5, Gkrellm, IceWM, Sylpheed, Eterm, cupsd reniced at 19. Even though I only use a Pentium II @ 350, it responds much faster than my office P III @ 833 with 256 MB of RAM running NT4. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Encryption is an envelope - the contents are private. iD8DBQE/uo2NwC/zk+cxEdMRAsbVAKDhLkKFea7f9uqNJ3x2ohJ3uYy7RQCgwfYd ywyDOO1sQbvJSIbzbzT3Tbw= =4ao5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] urpmi questions
On Tuesday 18 Nov 2003 8:07 pm, Jason Williams wrote: Last question. Is there a way to get a package description of the available packages through urpmi? I swear I was able to do so, but dont recall how to do it now. :/ In 9.1, using the gui, there's a check-box for 'maximum information' Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linuxconf
On Tuesday 18 November 2003 08:29 am, Glenn Burkhardt wrote: Now I'll have to beat the Sparenberg drum - this clearly deserves a bug report. I can't do it yet, since I've just ordered my 9.2 boxed set, and don't have 9.2 installed on any systems. A bug report probably will get ignored because I don't think there is anybody really maintaining this package for Mandrake since it was moved to contrib, that is, unless you'd like to volunteer. Contrib packages are packaged by volunteers and contributed. They are not maintained by MandrakeSoft, so a bug report is useless unless there is somebody that is going to fix linuxconf to work with Mandrake. -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linuxconf
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 06:57, Greg Meyer wrote: On Tuesday 18 November 2003 08:29 am, Glenn Burkhardt wrote: Now I'll have to beat the Sparenberg drum - this clearly deserves a bug report. I can't do it yet, since I've just ordered my 9.2 boxed set, and don't have 9.2 installed on any systems. A bug report probably will get ignored because I don't think there is anybody really maintaining this package for Mandrake since it was moved to contrib, that is, unless you'd like to volunteer. Contrib packages are packaged by volunteers and contributed. They are not maintained by MandrakeSoft, so a bug report is useless unless there is somebody that is going to fix linuxconf to work with Mandrake. I'd also like to point out that it was dropped for a good reason, which is that it is Evil Incarnate(TM). The problem with Linuxconf is that it maintains its own config and pushes those to the actual config when it gets around to it. This means you can make changes to the real config files which will be ignored and clobbered by the next Linuxconf run. If you want a pointy-clicky config interface and you don't like DrakConf, use Webmin -- it doesn't have that problem. It's also better at handling complex config than DrakConf. DrakConf is very good at things like X, but I agree that its network config is... questionable. -- Jack at Monkeynoodle Dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture... Driving around up and down Division Street, I used to like it here -- just bums me out to remember. Can't you do anything nice? I think I'm going to make the same mistake twice. -- punch and judy from either/or by Elliott Smith Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] urpmi woes
Ok...not sure if this should go here, but so far, i've had no luck in
trying to resolve my problems with urpmi.
Just did a fresh install of 9.2 on one of our IBM servers.
I used the easy urpmi site to setup my urpmi servers so I could install
software accordingly.
Also, I should mention that I did go to http://www.urpmi.org and tried to
read the how-to, but a lot of the pages are no longer active.
Here is the problem.
When I run urpmq --fuzzy, I get no response. Not sure why, but it does not
list anything.
Also, look at the following:
$ urpmq -i samba3-common
medium contrib uses an invalid list file:
mirror is probably not up-to-date, trying to use alternate method
Still gives the description, but that error is something i'd like to correct.
Quick look at my urpmi.cfg:
Installation\ CD\ 1\ (x86)\ (cdrom1) removable://mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS {
hdlist: hdlist.Installation CD 1 (x86) (cdrom1).cz
with_hdlist: ../../Mandrake/base/hdlist1.cz
removable: /dev/hda
key-ids: 70771ff3
}
Installation\ CD\ 2\ (x86)\ (cdrom2) removable://mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS2 {
hdlist: hdlist.Installation CD 2 (x86) (cdrom2).cz
with_hdlist: ../../Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz
removable: /dev/hda
key-ids: 70771ff3
}
International\ CD\ (x86)\ (cdrom3) removable://mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS3 {
hdlist: hdlist.International CD (x86) (cdrom3).cz
with_hdlist: ../../Mandrake/base/hdlist3.cz
removable: /dev/hda
key-ids: 70771ff3
}
updates
ftp://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS {
hdlist: hdlist.updates.cz
with_hdlist: ../base/hdlist.cz
update
}
main
ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/9.2/i586/Mandrake/RPMS {
hdlist: hdlist.main.cz
with_hdlist: ../base/hdlist.cz
key-ids: 70771ff3
}
contrib ftp://mirror.cs.wisc.edu/pub/mirrors/linux/Mandrake/9.2/contrib/i586 {
hdlist: hdlist.contrib.cz
with_hdlist: ../../i586/Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz
list: list.contrib
key-ids: 70771ff3
}
Granted, I really do not want to use the CD's for any type of installation,
but instead just use the ftp sites exclusively.
With that in mind, I feel like im a little lost in the water here.
What can I do to correct this problem?
I appreciate everyones help and input.
Cheers,
Jason
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Re: [expert] urpmi woes
On Wednesday 19 Nov 2003 12:27 am, Jason Williams wrote:
Ok...not sure if this should go here, but so far, i've had no luck in
trying to resolve my problems with urpmi.
Just did a fresh install of 9.2 on one of our IBM servers.
I used the easy urpmi site to setup my urpmi servers so I could install
software accordingly.
Also, I should mention that I did go to http://www.urpmi.org and tried to
read the how-to, but a lot of the pages are no longer active.
Here is the problem.
When I run urpmq --fuzzy, I get no response. Not sure why, but it does not
list anything.
Also, look at the following:
$ urpmq -i samba3-common
medium contrib uses an invalid list file:
mirror is probably not up-to-date, trying to use alternate method
Still gives the description, but that error is something i'd like to
correct.
Quick look at my urpmi.cfg:
Installation\ CD\ 1\ (x86)\ (cdrom1) removable://mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS {
hdlist: hdlist.Installation CD 1 (x86) (cdrom1).cz
with_hdlist: ../../Mandrake/base/hdlist1.cz
removable: /dev/hda
key-ids: 70771ff3
}
Installation\ CD\ 2\ (x86)\ (cdrom2) removable://mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS2 {
hdlist: hdlist.Installation CD 2 (x86) (cdrom2).cz
with_hdlist: ../../Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz
removable: /dev/hda
key-ids: 70771ff3
}
International\ CD\ (x86)\ (cdrom3) removable://mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS3 {
hdlist: hdlist.International CD (x86) (cdrom3).cz
with_hdlist: ../../Mandrake/base/hdlist3.cz
removable: /dev/hda
key-ids: 70771ff3
}
updates
ftp://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS {
hdlist: hdlist.updates.cz
with_hdlist: ../base/hdlist.cz
update
}
main
ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/9.2/i586/Mandrake/RPMS
{ hdlist: hdlist.main.cz
with_hdlist: ../base/hdlist.cz
key-ids: 70771ff3
}
contrib
ftp://mirror.cs.wisc.edu/pub/mirrors/linux/Mandrake/9.2/contrib/i586 {
hdlist: hdlist.contrib.cz
with_hdlist: ../../i586/Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz
list: list.contrib
key-ids: 70771ff3
}
Granted, I really do not want to use the CD's for any type of installation,
but instead just use the ftp sites exclusively.
With that in mind, I feel like im a little lost in the water here.
What can I do to correct this problem?
I appreciate everyones help and input.
Cheers,
Jason
For urpmq --fuzzy you need to supply a string parameter
For example urpmq --fuzzy samba
That error with
medium contrib uses an invalid list file:
mirror is probably not up-to-date, trying to use alternate method
is a temporary issue because the list file on the mirrors is currently out of
date. It does not affect the operation of urpmi. It is just an annoyance.
To remove your CD media type
urpmi.removemedia
You will be given a list of all the urpmi sources, then
urpmi.removemedia media_name
will remove a specific media.
HTH
derek
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Re: [expert] urpmi woes
On Tuesday 18 November 2003 07:27 pm, Jason Williams wrote: $ urpmq -i samba3-common medium contrib uses an invalid list file: mirror is probably not up-to-date, trying to use alternate method Still gives the description, but that error is something i'd like to correct. This happens to me all the time during the day, when many mirrors limit access for anonymous ftp. All it really means if you know your mirror entries are good, is that the script could not gain access to the server through anonymous ftp. Try again outside of business hours, or try another mirror. Being in the US, I use the European mirrors in the afternoon, because it is evening there, an Australian mirror for the same reason in the morning and the US mirrors in the evening. I actually get around this problem by keeping a local mirror of the dist, contrib and update trees on one of my servers, and sync them at night with a script. This way I never have to worry about mirror availability. -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] urpmi woes
On Tuesday 18 November 2003 07:40 pm, Derek Jennings wrote: is a temporary issue because the list file on the mirrors is currently out of date. It does not affect the operation of urpmi. It is just an annoyance. This is really only a cooker problem. The distribution mirrors should be fine. You probably are getting the error during the day because many mirrors limit anonymous ftp during business hours to reserve resources for faculty and staff, and the servers are extra busy right now because mandrake and fedora have both recently been released. -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] urpmi woes
At 12:40 AM 11/19/2003 +, you wrote: For urpmq --fuzzy you need to supply a string parameter For example urpmq --fuzzy samba Doh! Whoops...makes sense now. :) That error with medium contrib uses an invalid list file: mirror is probably not up-to-date, trying to use alternate method is a temporary issue because the list file on the mirrors is currently out of date. It does not affect the operation of urpmi. It is just an annoyance. Anyway to fix this manually? Or can I just resync my sources to get the updated tree? To remove your CD media type urpmi.removemedia You will be given a list of all the urpmi sources, then urpmi.removemedia media_name will remove a specific media. Worked like a charm. On a side note, anyone know if urpmi.org is going to be updated soon? HTH derek -- Cheers, Jason Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Gnomemeeting and Pixelview PlayTV Pak camera
I have Pixelview PlayTV Pak TV tuner card which comes with camera connected to tuner card. I have to use windows for netmeeting or yahoo video conferencing because of this camera. has anybody used this camera in linux for gnomemeeting. i have mdk 9.1 in A7N8X deluxe MB and athlon 2400+ and 256 MB ram. -- L.V.Gandhi 203, Soundaryalahari Apartments, Lawsons Bay colony, Visakhapatnam, 530017 MECON, 5th Floor, RTC Complex, Visakhapatnam AP 530020 INDIA http://lvgandhi.tripod.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] A7N8X deluxe MB and nvidia ASUS V9180 Graphic card pending problems.
I have A7N8X deluxe MB and nvidia ASUS V9180 Graphic card in a mandrake 9.1 box. I had a problem for hdd that it was accepting dma status and hence it was giving udma 2 status. This problem was solved by the kernel kernel-2.4.21.0.22mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm I have also installed the its source rpm kernel-source-2.4.21-0.22mdk.i586.rpm. I have also installed NVIDIA_nforce-1.0-0261.src.rpm. Now I installed nvidia run script for nvidia graphics. But I get only 2D acceleration. Excerpts from XFree.0.log is given below. (WW) NVIDIA(0): Failure reading EDID parameters for display device CRT-0 --- (II) NVIDIA(0): Using the NVIDIA 2D acceleration architecture. Further I get from dmesg as below agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp memory: 203M agpgart: unsupported bridge agpgart: no supported devices found. 0: NVRM: AGPGART: unable to retrieve symbol table 1) what to do to get 3D acceleration? Whether agpgart has to do with 3D? 2) I get white screen with yellow lines when I try to play xine. After that if I run xawtv I get the same white screen. But xawtv or mplayer runs ok if xine is not started or if logout then relogin and start xawtv. 3) For parallel port I have following lines in /etc/modules.conf. alias parport parport_pc I need parport for parallel port scanner. Now i am unable to get parallel port in lsmod. But i get dmesg following line. spurious 8259A interrupt: IRQ7 How to make parallel port working in this MB. in cat /proc/interrupts I don't get irq 3,4or 7. 4) Though my modem works OK in both serial ports, my pda jornada 690e is not getting connected with this MB serial ports. I could get connected (of course in windows) with i815 board. What can be the reason. I want to make 9.1 work with this MB before moving to 9.2. -- L.V.Gandhi 203, Soundaryalahari Apartments, Lawsons Bay colony, Visakhapatnam, 530017 MECON, 5th Floor, RTC Complex, Visakhapatnam AP 530020 INDIA http://lvgandhi.tripod.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] urpmi woes
On Wednesday 19 Nov 2003 1:21 am, Jason Williams wrote: snip That error with medium contrib uses an invalid list file: mirror is probably not up-to-date, trying to use alternate method is a temporary issue because the list file on the mirrors is currently out of date. It does not affect the operation of urpmi. It is just an annoyance. Anyway to fix this manually? Or can I just resync my sources to get the updated tree? It is the tree on the mirror that is broken. We will have to wait until it is fixed. It is the file 'list' in the contrib folder that is out of date. The list includes the old kernel packages that were replaced. I do not know how urpmi uses the list file. It is clearly not essential since not all sources have one. When it is eventually fixed do a urpmi.update -a to bring your database in line with the mirror. You should also be updating the database for your updates source frequently. I automate my updates in a cron job with this :- urpmi.update updates urpmi --update --auto --auto-select derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] garbage collection ?
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 13:22, Dick Gevers wrote: Okay. Is this a poker game? LOL :) Yeah, you're bringing the pizza, right? :) Running [EMAIL PROTECTED] niced at -5 'Nice' sets the schedule priority - ok, what does that mean? How does that affect your performance both overall and for the specified program? -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com == Windows is the best $189 solitaire game you can buy. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Gnome and a dialer app?
that's right... it conflicts with initscripts and ppp it wouldn't install - I have no idea how to resolve these issues so just gave it away. Cheers anton Anton. Don't use dialup ATT myself but I think the rpm you need is called gpppwrap just do urpmi gpppwrap and try it out. James Praedor Atrebates wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I don't generally use gnome (and haven't tried it for at least 6 months or more). Last evening, in trying to locate where the problem resided with regards to my desktop and sound (or lack thereof) I started up Gnome 2.4 for the first time. Pretty nice actually. I was pleasantly suprised. What I didn't find, however, was a dialer app like kppp. I would swear that I installed all the gnome stuff when I installed 9.2 but perhaps I missed something? Is there not a dedicated gnome dialer? What's its name? praedor - -- Our ship is in the hands of pilots who are steering directly under full sail for a rock. The whole crew may see this course to violate our liberties in full view if they look the right way. - --Samuel Adams, 1771 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/uQphaKr9sJYeTxgRAkdZAJ4n1Bc8vNLugfnt/If37abQ+Ye3swCfWfIF tCzIb0mjlNh+2bgDewBXGtA= =S0h3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] garbage collection ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:15:17 -0800, Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about Re: [expert] garbage collection ?: LOL :) Yeah, you're bringing the pizza, right? :) Sure, if you take care of the beer whiskey, no sweat. Running [EMAIL PROTECTED] niced at -5 'Nice' sets the schedule priority - ok, what does that mean? How does that affect your performance both overall and for the specified program? Good really. I have a cron job running half hourly to check if the screensaver is on, if it is it renices seti to -15, if not to -5. If I am running lots of windows suimultaneously I may feel a slight slowdown of the box, so then I renice seti to 19. Comparison of seti results is statistically unreliable due to the huge variance in raw calculus needs within the workunits. But I can say that before I installed MD I had MOL maxed out my performance as against the other users (somewhere around 99.1% of all others surpassed, whatever). Now I am very slowly falling back by very small margins. Currently 97+. On the other hand I am of course also decelerating relatively speaking as I am not buying new mobo`s and cpu`s as soon as they are shipped. Even in w2k I guess I was starting to float back very slowly from my ceiling. So pls bring your stuffed wallet along tonight I`ll be able to finally buy that smp-mobo tomorrow;-) What kind of cigars do you prefer? I`ll stock up. Ciao, =Dick Gevers= -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Encryption is an envelope - the contents are private. iD8DBQE/uvk7wC/zk+cxEdMRAp9qAJ4mTEEdjUkEY50lV/GLjOl9afvdhQCfTdBV m4prxd4F5P++1iGRYC6beyU= =XUvf -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Fw: MDKA-2003:030 - Updated rpm packages fix database locking bug
Begin forwarded message: Date: 19 Nov 2003 04:55:06 - From: Mandrake Linux Security Team [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MDKA-2003:030 - Updated rpm packages fix database locking bug -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ___ Mandrake Linux Update Advisory ___ Package name: rpm Advisory ID:MDKA-2003:030 Date: November 18th, 2003 Affected versions: 9.2 ___ ___ Problem Description: A bug was found in the way that rpm locks it's database in that it prevents update-menus from running properly and can cause the loss of KDE, GNOME, and other WM menus. This package provides a better locking mechanism that should prevent this improper behaviour. ___ ___ Updated Packages: Mandrake Linux 9.2: 8fa66e2b1aa81c6ce2d82afe3653127a 9.2/RPMS/rpm-4.2-21.2.92mdk.i586.rpm 5b1b98503517529c5ddd1fcb55777410 9.2/RPMS/rpm-build-4.2-21.2.92mdk.i586.rpm ae16c770dd50267c0bfc241375614e54 9.2/RPMS/rpm-devel-4.2-21.2.92mdk.i586.rpm 7950798546366ab926605f6b82810bcb 9.2/RPMS/rpm-python-4.2-21.2.92mdk.i586.rpm 3e793e8944ccbfd7f7d43ea9ff37ab4c 9.2/RPMS/popt-1.8-21.2.92mdk.i586.rpm 15069be864356db8bf1954a112566419 9.2/RPMS/popt-devel-1.8-21.2.92mdk.i586.rpm 90002ee1e3750c3bb6c9bb6a9b974b49 9.2/SRPMS/rpm-4.2-21.2.92mdk.src.rpm ___ Bug IDs fixed (see http://bugs.mandrakelinux.com for more information): 30 - Rpm lock on database causes KDE menu to disappear when installing RPMS ___ To upgrade automatically use MandrakeUpdate or urpmi. The verification of md5 checksums and GPG signatures is performed automatically for you. A list of FTP mirrors can be obtained from: http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/ftp.php All packages are signed by MandrakeSoft for security. You can obtain the GPG public key of the Mandrake Linux Security Team by executing: gpg --recv-keys --keyserver www.mandrakesecure.net 0x22458A98 Please be aware that sometimes it takes the mirrors a few hours to update. You can view other update advisories for Mandrake Linux at: http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/ MandrakeSoft has several security-related mailing list services that anyone can subscribe to. Information on these lists can be obtained by visiting: http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/mlist.php If you want to report vulnerabilities, please contact security_linux-mandrake.com Type Bits/KeyID Date User ID pub 1024D/22458A98 2000-07-10 Linux Mandrake Security Team security linux-mandrake.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/uveqmqjQ0CJFipgRAlloAJ9KKTLcjc0vZOiu57grEjTAQaeS2gCg5x+6 zNNt5AVYRfSBkClcUK92xyc= =DkP3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
