[Factor-talk] Factor educational tools

2010-03-27 Thread Henrik Huttunen
Hello all, I was quite impressed with Slava's Google Tech talk so I wanted to learn it a bit. And since I noticed that there's missing some kind of basic environment for beginners, I decided to create one. I've done enough so that people can start using it, at least give feedback. Still, there's

Re: [Factor-talk] Factor educational tools

2010-03-27 Thread Jesse Rusak
Henrik, I think that's an awesome start. I really like the inclusion of the canvas words. One suggestion: I always picture the stack starting at the left and growing to the right. I think Factor encourages this in a lot of places, like word definitions and, well, in reading code itself;

Re: [Factor-talk] Factor educational tools

2010-03-27 Thread Henrik Huttunen
Hi Jesse, that's quite important suggestion. I thought about stack orientation before and I was thinking that people not aware of stack based languages would feel more comfortable with vertical stack. But if others agree with you, I'm willing to change it so that it would reflect general

Re: [Factor-talk] Factor educational tools

2010-03-27 Thread Max Lupke
Hi Henrik, Man this is so awesome! A suggestion: did you have a look at the fjsc vocab? I don't know whether it's functional but it's in extra, so there may be some hope. But you seem to take stack effect declarations for normal words, : square ( n -- n*n ) dup * ; 3 square fails with unknown

Re: [Factor-talk] Factor educational tools

2010-03-27 Thread Mark Engle
Very nice tool. I have a couple of students standing here fascinated. I particularly like the vertical visual representation of the stack. In fact I think it is crucial. A stack is after all a stack and not some other structure. On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Jesse Rusak

Re: [Factor-talk] Factor educational tools

2010-03-27 Thread Joe Groff
On Mar 27, 2010, at 5:03 AM, Henrik Huttunen wrote: I registered today a domain for the playground (and for future open educational software): http://factor.openeducationtools.com/ There's a bitbucket repository for milestones and one can file issues: http://bitbucket.org/egaga/js-factor/

Re: [Factor-talk] Factor educational tools

2010-03-27 Thread Chris Double
On 03/28/2010 2:26 AM, Henrik Huttunen wrote: A suggestion: did you have a look at the fjsc vocab? I don't know whether it's functional but it's in extra, so there may be some hope. I don't think I've familiar with that vocab. fjsc is a factor to javascript compiler. I have blog posts

Re: [Factor-talk] Factor educational tools

2010-03-27 Thread Henrik Huttunen
Hello Chris, actually I did see some posts when I was going through Factor blogsphere. I intend to take a better look later. Thanks, Henrik On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 2:44 AM, Chris Double chris.dou...@double.co.nz wrote: On 03/28/2010 2:26 AM, Henrik Huttunen wrote:   A suggestion: did you have

Re: [Factor-talk] Factor educational tools

2010-03-27 Thread Henrik Huttunen
Hi Joe! Thank you for pointing this out. It was my first time to buy .com domain name and I took a redirecting feature, and didn't notice that it uses a frame to inject the page there. As I just woke up, I'm not sure what to do about it. FWIW, people can link to the original page before I know

Re: [Factor-talk] Factor educational tools

2010-03-27 Thread Henrik Huttunen
Thanks Jesse, this kind of elaboration is what I really need to see into the fundamental thinking of Factor since I'm myself written actual Factor code less than implemented it. :) I think I could create an alternative stack view for the playground (and for the tutorial which I think is maybe

Re: [Factor-talk] Factor educational tools

2010-03-27 Thread Henrik Huttunen
I found that there was an option for URL forwarding to be unmasked. I hope it means true redirecting. It hasn't taken any noticeable effect yet but let's hope so it soon will. - Henrik On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 3:37 AM, Henrik Huttunen henrik.huttu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Joe! Thank you for