Re: [Factor-talk] Docs and other topics

2010-11-11 Thread Shaping
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Shaping wrote > Chris, I like your document, even though it is out of date. Just to be clear the handbook.pdf is Slava's document. Yes, sorry, I should have looked... I need to get on with some act

Re: [Factor-talk] Factor GUI

2010-11-11 Thread Shaping
What is currently the best example/demo involving a locally running web-server serving HTML pages? I need to get more deeply into HTML 5 and CSS 3, anyway. Shaping From: Jim mack [mailto:j...@less2do.com] Sent: 2010-November-11, 13:29 To: factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: R

Re: [Factor-talk] Docs and other topics

2010-11-11 Thread Chris Double
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Shaping wrote > Chris, I like your document, even though it is out of date. Just to be clear the handbook.pdf is Slava's document. I just generated it from the original source. I did produce this one which is a collection of my blog posts: http://www.bluishcoder.

Re: [Factor-talk] Docs and other topics

2010-11-11 Thread Shaping
Chris, I like your document, even though it is out of date. I think Balazs wants (as would I and others, I suspect) a nearly linear tutorial-like instruction, including: setting up the Git repository; checking out the clean branch; building Factor from that branch; running Factor; setting up you

Re: [Factor-talk] let, let* |

2010-11-11 Thread Slava Pestov
Hi Jeff, [let is defined in the locals vocabulary, and [let* is gone now. If you saw an old blog post talking about [let and [let*, chances are it uses the old syntax for [let too. Nowadays, we do this: :: foo ( -- z ) 5 :> x 6 :> y x y + ; Slava On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 7:10 PM, Jef

Re: [Factor-talk] Help Browser slow

2010-11-11 Thread Jim mack
I first noticed this on xp once I had loaded a few libraries, usually furnace. Does the fresh exe seems reasonable? On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Jeff C. Britton wrote: > On Windows XP the Browser that is opened upon clicking Help in the listener > is painfully slow. > > For example, I click

Re: [Factor-talk] "tetris" deploy-tool

2010-11-11 Thread Joe Groff
> However, I just noticed that the timestamp placed on > tetris.exe is 11/04/2010, but > tetris.image is 11/11/2010. That's normal, Jeff. The .exe is just a direct copy of the original factor.exe (or factor.com for console applications). -Joe -

Re: [Factor-talk] let, let* |

2010-11-11 Thread William Schlieper
On 11/11/2010 10:10 PM, Jeff C. Britton wrote: > I am trying to use > [let > [let* > And > | > > in the listener and they are not recognized. Did you make sure to USE: the correct library? > -- > Centralized Desktop Deliver

Re: [Factor-talk] let, let* |

2010-11-11 Thread Doug Coleman
Try ``USE: locals'' first. Also, you are getting restarts, no? Find the option that looks good, highlight it, and hit enter. No word named “[let” found in current vocabulary search path - Abort - Use the locals vocabulary < this one :-) - Defer word in current vocabulary Doug On N

[Factor-talk] let, let* |

2010-11-11 Thread Jeff C. Britton
I am trying to use [let [let* And | in the listener and they are not recognized. -- Centralized Desktop Delivery: Dell and VMware Reference Architecture Simplifying enterprise desktop deployment and management using Dell

[Factor-talk] Help Browser slow

2010-11-11 Thread Jeff C. Britton
On Windows XP the Browser that is opened upon clicking Help in the listener is painfully slow. For example, I clicked on Vocabulary tags, and a couple of minutes went by before the tags appeared. I then clicked on collections and another couple of minutes went by before the collections appeare

Re: [Factor-talk] Problems with the Hello World and timer-serverexamples.

2010-11-11 Thread Jeff C. Britton
Thanks, both work. However, factor -run=time-server does not start the time-server. --Jeff >From Slava, " You need to do factor -run=hello-world This file is meant to be run as a vocabulary ,not a stand-alone script. For a stand-alone script hello world, try this: -- USE: io "Hello w

Re: [Factor-talk] Factor GUI

2010-11-11 Thread Jim mack
Don't ignore the possibility of deploying as a local http server and having a local webapp. The server would be on the box, so it could do things locally, call COM, access clipboard. It's how I'm trying to do things, and works cross-platform, and is only limited by your html/css skills. On Thu,

Re: [Factor-talk] Docs and other topics

2010-11-11 Thread Jim mack
1) A google search: site:http://docs.factorcode.org/ "[ ] each" often finds what I'm looking for in the details, rather than as a topic/word. 2) I generate the docs html locally using a word provided and use a grep tool. USE: help.html load-all generate-help will make it in factor

[Factor-talk] "tetris" deploy-tool

2010-11-11 Thread Jeff C. Britton
My apologies, "tetris" deploy-tool does indeed work. I just did not wait long enough. I was using version .94, I miss typed an earlier post as version .04. I just downloaded factor-winnt-x86-32-2010-11-04-13-12.zip. This also works. However, I just noticed that the timestamp placed on tetris.e

Re: [Factor-talk] Docs and other topics

2010-11-11 Thread Balazs Toth
Thank you! On Nov 11, 2010, at 1:52 PM, Joe Groff wrote: > On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Balazs Toth wrote: > >> Hi Chris, >> >> thanks for the answer. About the reliability of the features: I am curious >> how often do you stumble upon a feature that is not fully implemented, or >> not i

Re: [Factor-talk] Docs and other topics

2010-11-11 Thread Joe Groff
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Balazs Toth wrote: > Hi Chris, > > thanks for the answer. About the reliability of the features: I am curious > how often do you stumble upon a feature that is not fully implemented, or not > implemented in a cross-platform way. > The stuff in basis/ has genera

Re: [Factor-talk] Docs and other topics

2010-11-11 Thread Balazs Toth
Hi Chris, thanks for the answer. About the reliability of the features: I am curious how often do you stumble upon a feature that is not fully implemented, or not implemented in a cross-platform way. Bye, Balazs On Nov 11, 2010, at 12:23 PM, Chris Double wrote: > On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 12:0

Re: [Factor-talk] Docs and other topics

2010-11-11 Thread Chris Double
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Balazs Toth wrote: > - is there some accumulated, readable documentation of Factor somewhere? Or > at least a cheat sheet about the various features of the language? The help > system is really nice and sufficient as it is if someone already knows what > he is

[Factor-talk] Docs and other topics

2010-11-11 Thread Balazs Toth
Hi, I don't know if my previous mail reached the list or not, but let me ask you once again: - is there some accumulated, readable documentation of Factor somewhere? Or at least a cheat sheet about the various features of the language? The help system is really nice and sufficient as it is if

[Factor-talk] Pull-request: add Dijkstra algorithm (a particular case of A*) to path-finding

2010-11-11 Thread Samuel Tardieu
The following changes since commit dbfade143cbb41e31cb830dc7973f8997718b40f: splitting: fix stack effect declaration of (split) (2010-11-06 17:50:39 -0700) are available in the git repository at: git://git.rfc1149.net/factor.git for-slava Samuel Tardieu (1): path-finding: add Dijkstra

Re: [Factor-talk] Factor GUI

2010-11-11 Thread Shaping
> I would still like to convince my sup that Factor is the way to go, and > he'll want the latest and greatest Windows 7 GUI, eventually. So my next > question is: Has anyone undertaken the task of making a more up-to-date > looking set of widgets for Factor to use when creating GUI apps, even

Re: [Factor-talk] PEGs

2010-11-11 Thread Shaping
> > How do I use the keyboard keys to cycle back through old > expressions? > > Currently I have to scroll to the old position and double-click to > > re-enter it. >

Re: [Factor-talk] Factor keyboard shortcuts

2010-11-11 Thread Shaping
http://docs.factorcode.org/content/article-ui-listener.html I see it now. Sorry I missed it. Shaping -- Centralized Desktop Delivery: Dell and VMware Reference Architecture Simplifying enterprise deskto

Re: [Factor-talk] Problems with the Hello World and timer-server examples.

2010-11-11 Thread Shaping
> Ultimately, it hung up. The Listener was frozen. It will say 'Compiling...' for a few minutes -- are you sure it was frozen and not just working? I recall that during my compiling of Tetris, it "stuck" for a long time on one file, and then contin

Re: [Factor-talk] Factor GUI

2010-11-11 Thread Joe Groff
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Shaping wrote: > I would still like to convince my sup that Factor is the way to go, and > he'll want the latest and greatest Windows 7 GUI, eventually. So my next > question is:  Has anyone undertaken the task of making a more up-to-date > looking set of widgets f

Re: [Factor-talk] Factor GUI

2010-11-11 Thread Shaping
> Incidentally, has it occurred to you that the authors of this program > (not me!) are the most active members of this list? Also, that the > author of a program might take some offence at being told that it "is > not polished visu

Re: [Factor-talk] PEGs

2010-11-11 Thread Shaping
> I've noticed that the online EBNF help is not the same as that in the local > Help Browser. It is the same, except for possible minor differences between Factor versions. If you go: "peg.ebnf" about

Re: [Factor-talk] PEGs

2010-11-11 Thread Rupert Swarbrick
"Shaping" writes: > > How do I use the keyboard keys to cycle back through old > expressions? > > Currently I have to scroll to the old position and > double-click to > > re-enter it. > > See > > http://docs.factorcode.org/content/ar

Re: [Factor-talk] PEGs

2010-11-11 Thread Chris Double
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Shaping wrote: >> How do I use the keyboard keys to cycle back through old expressions? > >> Currently I have to scroll to the old position and double-click to > >> re-enter it. http://docs.factorcode.org/content/article-ui-listener.html Chris. -- http://www.blu

Re: [Factor-talk] PEGs

2010-11-11 Thread Shaping
> How do I use the keyboard keys to cycle back through old expressions? > Currently I have to scroll to the old position and double-click to > re-enter it. See http://docs.factorcode.org/content/article-gadgets-editors-comma