[FairfieldLife] [Sanskrit] Coulson and YF?

2011-01-29 Thread cardemaister
This is from Coulson's Sanskrit Primer, p. 211: bhos tathaa ham [aham] utpatitaa yathaa sakala eSa giri ;nagara ;graama ;sarid ;araNya-vyatikarash cakSuSaa parikSipyate Oh, I have flown up so (high) that this whole expanse of mountains, cities, villages, rivers and forests is encompassed by my

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge to Nabby

2011-01-29 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfreak@ wrote: Yes, I had a real champ for a surgeon, and this time the out of control flutter was completely taken care of. Another long ass procedure (5 hours including

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

2011-01-29 Thread blusc0ut
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Jan 28, 2011, at 9:10 PM, emptybill wrote: Mira was always ready to claim hidden awakenings in the Inconscient due to her yogic powers. In reality she seems to have been a ex-theosophist, turned shakti servant of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

2011-01-29 Thread blusc0ut
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut no_reply@ wrote: Beautiful! This is also one of my favorate songs. I think it was even forbidden at a time and not played by the BBC out of the accusation that it was

[FairfieldLife] Re: Watch the Egyptian Riots Live

2011-01-29 Thread blusc0ut
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote: On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 6:01 PM, blusc0ut no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Demonstrators action plan: http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2011/01/egyptian-activists-action-plan-translated/70388/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

2011-01-29 Thread blusc0ut
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut no_reply@ wrote: Beautiful! This is also one of my favorate songs. I think it was even forbidden at a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are these the most translated books in the whole world?

2011-01-29 Thread blusc0ut
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote: 1. The Bible 2. IKEA's catalogue? 3. Don Quijote? But the real question is this: what has been changed more often, the Bible or the IKEA cataloque?

[FairfieldLife] 31 Days of Love and Gratitude

2011-01-29 Thread Champs Ulysses Cabinatan
I'm making this one today. Just to get rid the boredom of being here in the Red Sea and Persian Gulf Region... I supposedly planning to have 365 Days... LOL.. take care all and enjoy the rest of the day! have to edit and proofread it further... :) -- Warm blessings peace, Champs Ulysses

[FairfieldLife] 31 Days of Love and Gratitude [1 Attachment]

2011-01-29 Thread Champs Ulysses Cabinatan
See attached... I'm making this one today. Just to get rid the boredom of being here in the Red Sea and Persian Gulf Region... I supposedly plan to have 365 Days... LOL.. take care all and enjoy the rest of the day! have to edit and proofread it further... :) -- Warm blessings peace,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are these the most translated books in the whole world?

2011-01-29 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: 1. The Bible 2. IKEA's catalogue? 3. Don Quijote? But the real question is this: what has been changed more often, the Bible or the IKEA

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are these the most translated books in the whole world?

2011-01-29 Thread wgm4u
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: 1. The Bible 2. IKEA's catalogue? 3. Don Quijote? But the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are these the most translated books in the whole world?

2011-01-29 Thread blusc0ut
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: 1. The Bible 2. IKEA's catalogue? 3. Don Quijote? But the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are these the most translated books in the whole world?

2011-01-29 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wgm4u@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: 1. The Bible

[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry Dream

2011-01-29 Thread blusc0ut
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Did you really, or are you making that up? If you really did, that's pretty strange. Strange. Just a little strange that is was not immediately

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are these the most translated books in the whole world?

2011-01-29 Thread blusc0ut
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: 1.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

2011-01-29 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: * * * Thanks. Actually M. LeRoy Goff, the 1Vth and last, but my mother had pity on me and gave me Rory at birth :-) Good. The lion that roars!

[FairfieldLife] Well, om maNi-padme huum (huung)?

2011-01-29 Thread cardemaister
Wiki: Most authorities consider ma#7751;ipadme to be one compound word rather than two simple words[citation needed]. --- Actually that makes a hole lot of sense! Namely, because, according to, say, Monier-Williams, 'maNi' is a masculine gender word, its nominative singular

[FairfieldLife] Most Amazing Video on the Internet

2011-01-29 Thread authfriend
Beautiful, very moving compilation of news footage of the protests in Egypt: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThvBJMzmSZI And a tweet from Sana Saleem: While Muslim protestors prayed today, Christian Egyptians formed human chains to protect them. Solidarity, strength and co-existence. (h/t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Most Amazing Video on the Internet

2011-01-29 Thread jpgillam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: And a tweet from Sana Saleem: While Muslim protestors prayed today, Christian Egyptians formed human chains to protect them. Solidarity, strength and co-existence. (h/t tywkiwdbi.blogspot.com) Did you see that picture in the New

[FairfieldLife] Distance and survival

2011-01-29 Thread jpgillam
I believe we've talked about the way people tend to have witnessing experiences in times of crisis. For example, I've told of a co-worker who reported, upon being told she had cancer, that she felt as though she was watching the diagnosis being given to another person. But we haven't talked

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are these the most translated books in the whole world?

2011-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wgm4u@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut no_reply@ wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

2011-01-29 Thread RoryGoff
RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: * * * Yes, who knows? For me, the TMO, like all of Life, is basically a marvelous Rorschach test; we see whatever we need to see in order to feel whatever we need to feel in any given moment! :-D blusc0ut no_reply@... wrote: Oh thanks! You just

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

2011-01-29 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut no_reply@... wrote: Btw, Rory, I do remember you, and we had kind of exchanged roles from now. You were basically not in defense mode, but in protest/rebel mode, and portrayed Maharishi as a kind of demon IIRC. I never ever did this. I still

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

2011-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: snip Time and again I have noticed that when we counter this thought with one closer to (our) current truth -- as in they *should* be inept and comatose -- that we notice a distinctly liberating sense of relief -- we have just

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: snip * * * Judy is correct; it is not possible for anyone to counteract the will of God, from Our point of view at any rate. However, it is entirely

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

2011-01-29 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: This brings up another interesting point. I find that it is not our thoughts themselves about what apparently IS that create our suffering; it is our subtler resistance to them. Bingo. As some hack playwright once said,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

2011-01-29 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: snip Time and again I have noticed that when we counter this thought with one closer to (our) current truth -- as in they *should* be inept and comatose -- that we notice a distinctly liberating sense of relief -- we have

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

2011-01-29 Thread RoryGoff
RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: This brings up another interesting point. I find that it is not our thoughts themselves about what apparently IS that create our suffering; it is our subtler resistance to them. turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Bingo. As some hack playwright once

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

2011-01-29 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: * * * Thanks. Actually M. LeRoy Goff, the 1Vth and last, but my mother had pity on me and gave me Rory at birth :-) Good. The lion that roars! *

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: snip * * * Judy is correct; it is not possible for anyone to counteract the will of God,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

2011-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: This brings up another interesting point. I find that it is not our thoughts themselves about what apparently IS that create our suffering; it is our

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

2011-01-29 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: This brings up another interesting point. I find that it is not our thoughts themselves about what apparently IS that create our suffering; it is our subtler resistance to them.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

2011-01-29 Thread whynotnow7
those who occationally try to taunt me into replying to them or to entering into some long discussion with them by dissing or poking fun at what I believe in don't succeed much. I often respond to what you write, without any expectation of receiving a reply from you. I am not taunting you, just

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

2011-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: This brings up another interesting point. I find that it is not our thoughts

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: If I don't know the truth experientially--if my experiential reality is of separateness--then you simply cannot legitimately call it a lie. I'm telling the truth about my experiential reality. * * * Yes! Separateness is an

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

2011-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: snip That, I think, is why those who occationally try to taunt me into replying to them or to entering into some long discussion with them by dissing or poking fun at what I believe in don't succeed much. I don't believe

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

2011-01-29 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: P.S.: Both Hamlet and Manson were committing what's called a category error, specifically, applying the the truth of one level of consciousness onto another one. Hamlet, as it happens, was using it to suggest that

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: If I don't know the truth experientially--if my experiential reality is of separateness--then you simply cannot legitimately call it a lie. I'm telling the

[FairfieldLife] We are with the people

2011-01-29 Thread Tom Pall
On Friday, the troops had appeared steadfastly neutral. Late Saturday, however, they were doing nothing to move demonstrators out of the streets, despite an earlier announcement by security services that anyone remaining in central squares or major roadways after 4 p.m. would face arrest. Asked

Re: [FairfieldLife] Stoneham doctor's alleged killer, Stryker, dies in prison

2011-01-29 Thread gullible fool
In case anyone does not know, this doctor was a governor at the Cambridge TM center in the 80s, after which he spent some time working at the TMO' s ayurvedic clinic, the one that was off-campus on Glasgow Road and caught fire. His role there was to legitimize the recommendations of the

[FairfieldLife] Have US companies helped in Egypt Internet crackdown?

2011-01-29 Thread Tom Pall
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/foremski/have-us-companies-helped-in-egypt-internet-crackdown/1651 or http://tinyurl.com/6f52677 By Tom Foremski | January 28, 2011, 11:52am PST Free Press http://www.freepress.net/, the non-partisan lobbying organization, reports that US companies are involved in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

2011-01-29 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: That's a delight that I think many here are missing out on. Curtis has pointed out in the past that he is able to poke fun at some of the...uh...oddities of the TM movement because in doing so he's poking fun at

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: I disagree. That isn't a lie either, subtle or otherwise. As I said before, it may be a *mistake*, it may be a mistake that causes suffering, but it isn't a lie. In fact, what *would* be a lie would be if I said, Oh, well,

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: I disagree. That isn't a lie either, subtle or otherwise. As I said before, it may be a *mistake*, it may be a mistake that causes suffering, but it

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thank you for not breeding

2011-01-29 Thread John
Hey, Meow Calm down. You're ranting. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, m 13 meowthirteen@... wrote: WHAT!? Who s lifestyle do we have to 'sustain'?Seems to me that the 'progress '   that has come has really been no progress at all. Simpler lifestyles are to be sustained. Not this tear

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

2011-01-29 Thread emptybill
As far as the world, Ramalinga was only concerned to bring the path of total divinisation to this world so others could follow and realize the result. Aurobindo (literally: the point-essence of a light ray) was concerned to divinize the Inconscient (the life-ground resting on sheer matter).

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread RoryGoff
Rory wrote: OK. Perfection aside, how about the thought, It must be OK for this terrible suffering to BE, because it IS in this moment? authfriend jstein@... wrote: That would be an utterly irrelevant thought for me. The relevant thought would be, This terrible suffering should not

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Watch the Egyptian Riots Live

2011-01-29 Thread Bhairitu
It they *dare* try that here all hell *will* break out. You will have awakened a large part of the tech community who *will* not take it kindly and provide technology for an insurgency. I heard that Egyptians are even communicating via Bluetooth. That's rather limited but works. Bet some

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread shanti2218411
To me this is one of those discussions which IMHO can't actually be resolved.People who are awake' will experience reality ,whatever the hell that is :), as non dual, people who are notawake will experience reality as separate from the self, I think the mistake is thinking that one state is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Stoneham doctor's alleged killer, Stryker, dies in prison

2011-01-29 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jan 29, 2011, at 12:36 PM, gullible fool wrote: In case anyone does not know, this doctor was a governor at the Cambridge TM center in the 80s, after which he spent some time working at the TMO' s ayurvedic clinic, the one that was off-campus on Glasgow Road and caught fire. His role

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shanti2218411 kc21d@... wrote: To me this is one of those discussions which IMHO can't actually be resolved.People who are awake' will experience reality ,whatever the hell that is :), as non dual, people who are notawake will experience reality as

Re: [FairfieldLife] Stoneham doctor's alleged killer, Stryker, dies in prison

2011-01-29 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jan 29, 2011, at 2:08 PM, Sal Sunshine wrote: gull, do you (or anyone else) know if this guy has any relatives (like a sister) here in Fairfield? Never mind~~found the answer to my own question on line. Turns out they had a memorial service for him here a little over a week ago. Scary

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread shanti2218411
I agree.I am a psychologist and after having seen thousands of clients, I have no doubt that one of the most fundamental mistakes people make is thinking reality should be than what it is at this moment.Denial of what IS invariably results in the perpetuation of suffering.This is very

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shanti2218411 kc21d@... wrote: I agree.I am a psychologist and after having seen thousands of clients, I have no doubt that one of the most fundamental mistakes people make is thinking reality should be than what it is at this moment.Denial of what

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Barry Dream

2011-01-29 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of seventhray1 Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 8:37 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Barry Dream --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: Did

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: Rory wrote: OK. Perfection aside, how about the thought, It must be OK for this terrible suffering to BE, because it IS in this moment? authfriend jstein@ wrote: That would be an utterly irrelevant thought for me. The

[FairfieldLife] Re: Watch the Egyptian Riots Live

2011-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: It they *dare* try that here all hell *will* break out. Uh, they won't try that here. Egypt has only four major Internet access providers, so it's fairly simple to shut it down. That would be virtually impossible here. You

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shanti2218411 kc21d@... wrote: I agree.I am a psychologist and after having seen thousands of clients, I have no doubt that one of the most fundamental mistakes people make is thinking reality should be than what it is at this moment. Denial of what

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shanti2218411 kc21d@... wrote: To me this is one of those discussions which IMHO can't actually be resolved.People who are awake' will experience reality ,whatever the hell that is :), as non dual, people who are notawake will experience reality as

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread RoryGoff
Rory wrote: OK. Perfection aside, how about the thought, It must be OK for this terrible suffering to BE, because it IS in this moment? authfriend jstein@ wrote: That would be an utterly irrelevant thought for me. The relevant thought would be, This terrible suffering should

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shanti2218411 kc21d@ wrote: I agree.I am a psychologist and after having seen thousands of clients, I have no doubt that one of the most fundamental mistakes people make is thinking reality should be than what it is at this moment. Denial of

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shanti2218411 kc21d@ wrote: To me this is one of those discussions which IMHO can't actually be resolved.People who are awake' will experience reality ,whatever the hell that is :), as non dual, people who are notawake will experience reality

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: Rory wrote: OK. Perfection aside, how about the thought, It must be OK for this terrible suffering to BE, because it IS in this moment? authfriend jstein@ wrote: That would be an utterly irrelevant thought

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shanti2218411 kc21d@ wrote: I agree.I am a psychologist and after having seen thousands of clients, I have no doubt that one of the most fundamental mistakes people make is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi was a manipulator.

2011-01-29 Thread vajradhatu108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@... wrote: That brings up another good point. When I was a student at MIU/MUM I remember a lot of anxiety going around regarding whether or not someone would attain enlightenment in this lifetime. Later in life, while

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

2011-01-29 Thread Vaj
On Jan 29, 2011, at 5:56 AM, blusc0ut wrote: Since even in Sri Vidya and other Hindu anuttara-tantra level sadhanas we result in a tantric-level ceasing of the mayaic form-body, you could easily say they not only failed to realize maha-sandhi levels of realization, they also missed the

[FairfieldLife] Internet Kill Switch For the US?

2011-01-29 Thread Tom Pall
As I see it, you'd not have to shut down the ISPs. Just mess with some routing tables. Some countries have disappeared from the Internet for up to an hour because of DNS problems. IIRC the last country to disappear from the Internet was Sweden, because of a missing decimal point in a DNS

Re: [FairfieldLife] Internet Kill Switch For the US?

2011-01-29 Thread Vaj
On Jan 29, 2011, at 5:32 PM, Tom Pall wrote: As I see it, you'd not have to shut down the ISPs. Just mess with some routing tables. Some countries have disappeared from the Internet for up to an hour because of DNS problems. IIRC the last country to disappear from the Internet was

Re: [FairfieldLife] The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread Vaj
On Jan 28, 2011, at 10:47 PM, shainm307 wrote: My dad and I were talking and I told him that according to maharishi and another book I read: when you are elightened you always follow the will of God. But he said that God is everything therefor the will of God is everything. It seems

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread RoryGoff
Rory wrote: OK. Perfection aside, how about the thought, It must be OK for this terrible suffering to BE, because it IS in this moment? authfriend jstein@ wrote: That would be an utterly irrelevant thought for me. The relevant thought would be, This terrible suffering

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shanti2218411 kc21d@ wrote: I agree.I am a psychologist and after having seen thousands of clients, I have no doubt that one of the most fundamental mistakes people make is thinking reality should be than what it is at this moment.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

2011-01-29 Thread blusc0ut
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Jan 29, 2011, at 5:56 AM, blusc0ut wrote: Since even in Sri Vidya and other Hindu anuttara-tantra level sadhanas we result in a tantric-level ceasing of the mayaic form-body, you could easily say they not only failed

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread shanti2218411
Good point, denial is actually the perception that reality is something other than what it actually what it actually is e.g. I lost my job b/c my boss is a jerk(not because I was late for work numerous times b/c I was hung over)OTOH the motivation for denial in this example is driven by the

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shainm307 shainm307@... wrote: My dad and I were talking and I told him that according to maharishi and another book I read: when you are elightened you always follow the will of God. But he said that God is everything therefor the will of God is

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread RoryGoff
RG: * * * I am so sorry for the disconnect, Judy! I don't really see where I am asking you to see much of anything; I am just trying to point out where our suffering lies... JS: You don't see the disconnect between what comes before the semicolon in what you just wrote and what comes

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread blusc0ut
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shanti2218411 kc21d@ wrote: To me this is one of those discussions which IMHO can't actually be

Re: [FairfieldLife] Internet Kill Switch For the US?

2011-01-29 Thread Tom Pall
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote: On Jan 29, 2011, at 5:32 PM, Tom Pall wrote: As I see it, you'd not have to shut down the ISPs. Just mess with some routing tables. Some countries have disappeared from the Internet for up to an hour because of DNS

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: RG: * * * I am so sorry for the disconnect, Judy! I don't really see where I am asking you to see much of anything; I am just trying to point out where our suffering lies... JS: You don't see the disconnect

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread shanti2218411
Cognitive therapy is based on the perspective that what a person is thinking directly affects their mood and behavior.Tx consists of an attempt to help a person recognize whether the thought they are having e.g. my future is hopeless is connected to their depressed mood Through a a process of

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: Oy! Is is alright if we're not buying your technique, Rory? Go back to feeling the body. This too shall pass. BTW Judy is not an alien. * * * Yes, raunchydog, it's OK with me if you're not buying into this technique!

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: Rory wrote: OK. Perfection aside, how about the thought, It must be OK for this terrible suffering to BE, because it IS in this moment? authfriend jstein@ wrote: That would be an utterly irrelevant

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shanti2218411 kc21d@... wrote: Cognitive therapy is based on the perspective that what a person is thinking directly affects their mood and behavior.Tx consists of an attempt to help a person recognize whether the thought they are having e.g. my

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shanti2218411 kc21d@ wrote: I agree.I am a psychologist and after having seen thousands of clients, I have no doubt that one of the most fundamental mistakes

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi was a manipulator.

2011-01-29 Thread Peter
--- On Sat, 1/29/11, vajradhatu108 vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote: From: vajradhatu108 vajradh...@earthlink.net Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi was a manipulator. To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, January 29, 2011, 5:30 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut no_reply@... wrote: Judy, I really think that this is the problem with so-called Neo-Advaita. You could say, that for Rory, you (or me) are his Rohrschach test :-) You cannot keep this 'accept everything' without getting into an infinite

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shanti2218411 kc21d@ wrote: To me

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread blusc0ut
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: JS: Whether I'm motivated to do something to relieve the suffering I'm seeing, and how successful I am. * * * RG: OK; I hear that as you're saying you're primarily concerned with taking steps out there in the world to

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: JS: Whether I'm motivated to do something to relieve the suffering I'm seeing, and how successful I am. * * * RG: OK; I hear that as you're saying

[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet Kill Switch For the US?

2011-01-29 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote: 60 minutes had a show last week featuring the FDIC coming into the branches of a bank on Friday night, taking over all operations and re-opening on Saturday manned by feds. The teams filled large hotel conference rooms

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: RG: * * * I am so sorry for the disconnect, Judy! I don't really see where I am asking you to see much of anything; I am just trying to point out where our suffering lies... JS: You don't see the disconnect between

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread raunchydog
RG: This stuff is making a great deal of sense to many thousands of ordinary people on this planet. JS: Is it up for a vote? RG: I think actually it's already been voted on by the hundreds of thousands of people who have read and enjoyed Tolle, or watched him on Oprah, or read Byron Katie, and

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut no_reply@ wrote: Judy, I really think that this is the problem with so-called Neo-Advaita. You could say, that for Rory, you (or me) are his Rohrschach test :-) You

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shanti2218411 kc21d@ wrote: To me this is one of those discussions which IMHO can't actually be resolved.People who are awake' will experience reality ,whatever the hell

[FairfieldLife] Post Count

2011-01-29 Thread FFL PostCount
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Jan 29 00:00:00 2011 End Date (UTC): Sat Feb 05 00:00:00 2011 153 messages as of (UTC) Sun Jan 30 00:07:01 2011 28 RoryGoff roryg...@hotmail.com 27 authfriend jst...@panix.com 19 seventhray1 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.net

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut no_reply@... wrote: I don't know if that is what Judy meant, but to me it seems you are twisting her words here: I haven't been following the discussion, except a tiny bit. But between Judy and Rory, you got to feel sorry for the words.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi was a manipulator.

2011-01-29 Thread Tom Pall
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 6:20 PM, seventhray1 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.netwrote: Better luck next time! Nah, Maharishi was fully enlightened. He showed me his vast, blazing enlightenment. What, You think Guru Dev made a chump? No, Maharishi was Guru Dev's darshan. For someone who seems

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread blusc0ut
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: * * * Well, I certainly am no stranger to anger or to shoulds; I have found an astounding abundance of both in me, and would and will be most happy to find more, as every one I find untangles into that much more delight!

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: RG: This stuff is making a great deal of sense to many thousands of ordinary people on this planet. JS: Is it up for a vote? RG: I think actually it's already been voted on by the hundreds of thousands of people who

[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet Kill Switch For the US?

2011-01-29 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote: On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 6:02 PM, seventhray1 steve.sundur@...wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@ wrote: 60 minutes had a show last week featuring the FDIC coming into the branches

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

2011-01-29 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut no_reply@ wrote: Judy, I really think that this is the problem with so-called Neo-Advaita.

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