[FairfieldLife] NoWin maps on iPhone 4

2011-09-08 Thread cardemaister
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCxe8O4T-2Y

[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of bija mantras

2011-09-08 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote: When I received the mantras from MMY in 1972 at the Fiuggi course, he gave them all with long vowels (Hreem rather than Hrim or Hrem). Since I had already read some of Sir John Woodroofe's books, I listened intensely to

Re: [FairfieldLife] I Wuz Reborn

2011-09-08 Thread Denise Evans
I saw that show while spending the night in a hotel recently after dropping my daughter at college.  I don't get expanded cable so always take advantage of the hotel channels.  Very entertaining and interesting actually...love that guy! --- On Wed, 9/7/11, Yifu yifux...@yahoo.com wrote: From:

[FairfieldLife] Faith and Doubt at Ground Zero - Frontline

2011-09-08 Thread Denise Evans
This was on our local pbs station tonight.  The show, the images, the music, the art and the discussion was very moving in its examination of beliefs and change in beliefs related to god and evil, and faith and religion, and spirit and shadow, and connectedness - as documented through many

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-08 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: oops that's timethat does it for this session, please get your credit cards out if you want to purchase any of my lecture series on your way out, if you don't have any of them yet I can recommend I Know

[FairfieldLife] Re: Certainty vs Uncertainty of Life:The man on the train

2011-09-08 Thread merudanda
Man on the Train http://www.joox.net/movies/2011/man-on-the-train-16821/ (2011) http://www.joox.net/movies/2011/ http://www.joox.net/movies/2011/man-on-the-train-16821/ [Man on the Train] The Bottom

[FairfieldLife] Re: Certainty vs Uncertainty of Life:The man on the train

2011-09-08 Thread turquoiseb
OK, thanks for the reminder. :-) I ordered this movie (the original) on DVD, but have somehow never gotten around to watching it. My bad. Because today is a rainy day (surprise...this has been the rainiest summer in Holland in 100 years), I'll try to make up for my slackness by watching it. Thanks

[FairfieldLife] Marketing 9/11

2011-09-08 Thread turquoiseb
One of the things that has been most dismaying for me the last week is to watch the parade of 9/11 articles parading across Internet portals. From the point of view of an expat, this seems to me to be a lot like a lot of people trying to make a buck from a tragedy. Think I'm exaggerating? Cruise

[FairfieldLife] License To Complain

2011-09-08 Thread turquoiseb
The US political season is upon us again. Non-US residents are bracing themselves for a year and a half of non-stop political bickering and posturing clogging most of the bandwidth of the Internet, much of it (on the part of both the politicians and the people dissing them or supporting them)

[FairfieldLife] Terminal Narcissism

2011-09-08 Thread turquoiseb
This phrase just burbled out in an earlier rap this morning, but now that I go back and parse it, I think I might have caught something with my use of it to describe spiritual teachers who consider themselves enlightened, and thus privy to something they often call Truth. How many of them who you

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-08 Thread maskedzebra
I only have one thing to say, Curtis: you are more impressive as a person than any of the theories of consciousness and the brain you are most inclined [at this time] to embrace. Those theories seem to fit for the scientists and philosophers who have developed them (Churchlands, Dennett,

[FairfieldLife] Re: License To Complain

2011-09-08 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: The US political season is upon us again. Non-US residents are bracing themselves for a year and a half of non-stop political bickering and posturing clogging most of the bandwidth of the Internet, much of it (on the part

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-08 Thread maskedzebra
Another instance of this on this forum is how MZ views what he does as missionary work. He is preaching to the poor, deluded people who still believe in the enlightenment metaphor, and trying to convince them (for their own good, of course) to climb on board the Jesus Bang Bus. Again, the metaphor

[FairfieldLife] Re: Certainty vs Uncertainty of Life:The man on the train

2011-09-08 Thread merudanda
welcome looking forward a review/comparison/POV whatever comes to your mind and comes easy to you and will not disturb* your train of thought and the peace of watching on a rainy day the BTW Canada/Irland Production ?- not American/Hollywood remake - my mistake *Mr Bean - Takes the Train

[FairfieldLife] New Crop Circle in Germany

2011-09-08 Thread nablusoss1008
http://www.earthfiles.com/shop.php Oberschleissheim, nr Munich, Bayern (Bavaria). Reported 31st July. Map Ref: This Page has been accessed [Hit Counter] Updated Wednesday 10th August 2011 http://www.starnationgallery.com/ AERIAL SHOTS GROUND SHOTS DIAGRAMS FIELD REPORTS ARTICLES

[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of bija mantras

2011-09-08 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote: When I received the mantras from MMY in 1972 at the Fiuggi course, he gave them all with long vowels (Hreem rather than Hrim or Hrem). Since I had already read some of Sir John Woodroofe's books, I listened intensely to

[FairfieldLife] New Crop Circle, Bayern, Germany

2011-09-08 Thread nablusoss1008
http://www.earthfiles.com/shop.php Oberschleissheim, nr Munich, Bayern (Bavaria). Reported 31st July. Map Ref: This Page has been accessed [Hit Counter] Updated Wednesday 10th August 2011 http://www.starnationgallery.com/ AERIAL SHOTS GROUND SHOTS DIAGRAMS FIELD REPORTS ARTICLES

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why Maharishi School students achieve so much...

2011-09-08 Thread martyboi
I agree, the population is not really a random distribution, it is a collection of smart people who will usually have smart kids. Having said that, on a personal level, I feel that meditation refined and enhanced my intellect and contributed to my scholastic achievements. The main reason for

[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of bija mantras

2011-09-08 Thread richardwillytexwilliams
William: ...according to him bija mantras are first found in the brahmanas, where they are associated with specific deities Well, I guess if there were any 'bija' mantras in the Brahmanas, they would have been mentioned by the historical Buddha (563-483 BCE). The Buddha does not mention

[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of bija mantras

2011-09-08 Thread emptybill
The best way is to learn to correctly pronounce the syllables of Sanskrit by hearing and practicing them. I learned in some basic courses by one of Vyaas Houston's teachers. He starts from the very beginning by training people to pronounce the Sanskrit alphabet and then goes next to the Yoga

[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of bija mantras

2011-09-08 Thread emptybill
Wiki Willy Warning! Gupta! Gupta! Ain't no bija-s nowhere! Willy Sez. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardwillytexwilliams willytex@... wrote: William: ...according to him bija mantras are first found in the brahmanas, where they are associated with specific deities Well,

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-08 Thread curtisdeltablues
Colin McGinn and David Chalmers Big thanks for these two resources Robin, and for the brain massage their lectures gave. I have put a book from each on hold at the library. I need to input these guys. So I can only discuss their short video and here is what I think, knowing full well that

Re: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-08 Thread Bob Price
No One Is Paying Any Attention To Me So I'll Suck Up To 
A Few People Hoping They'll Fall For It And Focus On ME I'm writing this post from the nurse's station in the psychiatric wing of the Betty Ford Centre in Rancho Mirage. In the event the nurse returns, I apologize in advance if my post

[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of bija mantras

2011-09-08 Thread richardwillytexwilliams
emptybill: Ain't no bija-s nowhere! So, you must be thinking that the bija mantras came out of India 10,000 years ago, before the invention of Sanskrit writing; before written history; before the discovery of agriculture; before the invention of metallurgy; before the wheel; and before the

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-08 Thread martyboi
That false part of me that experiences itself as a me and is in reality something I can't locate anymore in the vastness of my not-self ...foolishly finds this hilarious! I'm writing this post from the nurse's station in the psychiatric wing of the Betty Ford Centre in Rancho Mirage. In the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of bija mantras

2011-09-08 Thread richardwillytexwilliams
emptybill: He starts from the very beginning by training people to pronounce the Sanskrit alphabet and then goes next to the Yoga Sutra-s by hearing them recited and then repeating each sutra many times... There are no 'bija' mantras mentioned in the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali (200 BCE).

[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of bija mantras

2011-09-08 Thread Marcio
MMY I know, wanted to remove the aspect of religion of their mantras, so he reduced some mantras, many of tM Beej, are found in long mantras to Hindu deities, eg: OM AIM HRIM KLIM CAMUNDAYAI VICCE OM KRIM KALYAI NAMAH Kreem Kreem Kreem Hoom Hoom Hreem Hreem Dakshine Kalike Hoom Hoom Hreem Hreem

[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of bija mantras

2011-09-08 Thread richardwillytexwilliams
Bhairitu: The advanced technique is of course a longer mantra (and recommended to learn after 1 1/2 years)... In TM, you get only one single bija mantra. The rest are just Sanskrit words used as the fertilizer for the bija. One bija in TM, not two or more; just one bija; that's it, just

[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of bija mantras

2011-09-08 Thread WilliamG
http://www.shrifreedom.org/index.html http://www.shrifreedom.org/index.html http://www.shrifreedom.org/yoga.html http://www.shrifreedom.org/ayurveda.html http://www.shrifreedom.org/jyotish.html http://www.shrifreedom.org/crystals.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of bija mantras

2011-09-08 Thread Bhairitu
I'll second Vyaas Houston's program. I bought the whole course and got about as deep as the different tenses which was more than I needed to translate slokas. Then I noticed some difference in Sanskrit pronunciation and when asking about that there is actually southern and northern Indian

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-08 Thread maskedzebra
Flash! You will think I'm kidding around here, Bobbie Boy, but I just went back into Unity Consciousness—I couldn't remain in just old waking state as I got to the end of your e-mail—especially after seeing Betty Davis's eyes (and listening to her reaction to the song from where she is now). I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Marketing 9/11

2011-09-08 Thread Bhairitu
On 09/08/2011 04:12 AM, turquoiseb wrote: One of the things that has been most dismaying for me the last week is to watch the parade of 9/11 articles parading across Internet portals. From the point of view of an expat, this seems to me to be a lot like a lot of people trying to make a buck

[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of bija mantras

2011-09-08 Thread richardwillytexwilliams
Marcio: MMY I know, wanted to remove the aspect of religion of their mantras, so he reduced some mantras, many of tM Beej, are found in long mantras to Hindu deities... In TM, you get only one single 'bija' mantra. There are no 'deities' in TM. There are devatas mentioned in the Rik

[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of bija mantras

2011-09-08 Thread Marcio
RichardIn TM, you get only one single 'bija' mantra. There are no 'deities' in TM. kreem is kali beej mantra shreem is Lakshmi Beej Mantra Shyam Krishna is Beej Mantar Lakshmi, Krishna, Kali, Hindu deiades ? no deities on tm mantras? and advanced techniques are two times beeja eg .. shree

[FairfieldLife] Re: Marketing 9/11

2011-09-08 Thread richardwillytexwilliams
If I were American I'd be ashamed. Oh wait. I am. Bhairitu: Truthers are having fun deflecting the official myth of 9/11... LOL!!! Many adherents of the 9/11 Truth movement suspect that United States government insiders played a part in the attacks, or may have known the attacks were

[FairfieldLife] Re: Marketing 9/11

2011-09-08 Thread richardwillytexwilliams
turquoiseb: If I were American I'd be ashamed... Ever since Skeptic magazine published an investigative article on the 9/11 'Truth Movement' and analyzed their claims, which were found wanting... Read more: '9/11 Truthers a Pack of Liars' Huffington Post: http://tinyurl.com/yj7qwh6 Jonah

Re: [FairfieldLife] License To Complain

2011-09-08 Thread Bhairitu
On 09/08/2011 04:14 AM, turquoiseb wrote: The US political season is upon us again. Non-US residents are bracing themselves for a year and a half of non-stop political bickering and posturing clogging most of the bandwidth of the Internet, much of it (on the part of both the politicians and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of bija mantras

2011-09-08 Thread richardwillytexwilliams
In TM, you get only one single 'bija' mantra. Marcio: advanced techniques are two times beeja In TM you get only one bija mantra. In advanced techniques you get Sanskrit words to use as a fertilizer for the bija. The 'Sri' is a Sanskrit word meaning 'auspicious' - sri is NOT a bija

[FairfieldLife] Maxine Waters proposes the Judy Stein 'solution'....

2011-09-08 Thread WilliamG
So Judy, just how many credit cards do YOU have?(must be a lot). Maybe it's time to cut them up? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jS9OBEfQFC4

Re: [FairfieldLife] Origin of bija mantras

2011-09-08 Thread William Parkinson
I wish I could say I understood enough about Tantric doctrines to fully appreciate what you have said, but truthfully I'm not that conversant with it yet. I will say one thing about Feurerstein. By his own account, he is a long-term practitioner of yoga and in recent years he has turned to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of bija mantras

2011-09-08 Thread Marcio
Richard ok .. sri and namah are not Beej, are words in Sanskrit ok,,, i agree but Aim is Beej ok ? Aim is the Beej to Saraswast ... and saraswast is a deity? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardwillytexwilliams willytex@... wrote: In TM, you get only one single 'bija'

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of bija mantras

2011-09-08 Thread William Parkinson
Emptybill, I find what you say fascinating. I was taught my mantra with the short vowel pronunciation. My own teacher said that he was taught the mantras by an Indian, so perhaps there was some degree of misunderstanding about the nature of how it should be said. Having said that, the

[FairfieldLife] Re: why MMY not use kleem beeja mantra? (kleem or Kleeng ?)

2011-09-08 Thread Marcio
Richard I practice TM-SIDHS for 30 years twice day .. always practice ok ? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardwillytexwilliams willytex@... wrote: Marcio: and the advanced techniques First you get yourself initiated by a guru and you get the bija mantra. After that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of bija mantras

2011-09-08 Thread merudanda
here she is:(Beatrice Kathleen)Patricia Taylor Arthur Avalon: The Creation of a Legendary Orientalist, in Myth and Mythmaking, ed. Julia Leslie [Richmond, Eng.: Curzon Press, 1996], pp. 151-61); see also her paper Arthur Avalon among the Orientalists: Sir John Woodroffe and Tantra ( Oxford

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-08 Thread PaliGap
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: The only thing that is deficient in your atheism (...) is that it leaves out the truth that: At one time God *did* indeed exist, Ain't that just something? (I have removed the lengthy stuff between the parentheses to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maxine Waters proposes the Judy Stein 'solution'....

2011-09-08 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WilliamG wgm4u@... wrote: So Judy, just how many credit cards do YOU have?(must be a lot). Maybe it's time to cut them up? Huh?? Don't tell me you got yourself bamboozled by the inane notion that government is like a household that needs to live within

[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of bija mantras

2011-09-08 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, William Parkinson ameradian2@... wrote: I wish I could say I understood enough about Tantric doctrines to fully appreciate what you have said, but truthfully I'm not that conversant with it yet. I will say one thing about Feurerstein. By his own account,

[FairfieldLife] Re: why MMY not use kleem beeja mantra? (kleem or Kleeng ?)

2011-09-08 Thread Marcio
Richard marcio: wroteDoes anybody know the reason for not using the MMY beeja mantra kleem? which the most powerful kleem or Kleeng ? Rrichard wrote There is no reason that I can think of for not using any MMY bija mantra. Any sound or object can be considered a bija mantra - a bija is

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-08 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: snip Your problem, Barry, is that something has hit you so hard neurologically and psychologically, that you have lost the capacity seemingly to be hurt into the truth. Or rather, I think, constructed many layers of defense

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of bija mantras

2011-09-08 Thread Marcelo rosa
yes i agree i make it too 2011/9/8 William Parkinson ameradi...@yahoo.com ** Emptybill, I find what you say fascinating. I was taught my mantra with the short vowel pronunciation. My own teacher said that he was taught the mantras by an Indian, so perhaps there was some degree of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of bija mantras

2011-09-08 Thread William Parkinson
I would love to share it with everyone here. I saw that price too, so I ordered it via ILL. Hopefully, I will get it soon. Once read, I will report what the author's research suggests is the case on consciousness in Advaita Vedanta. Cheers Bill From: authfriend jst...@panix.com To:

[FairfieldLife] Re: License To Complain

2011-09-08 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: snip If you're going to inflict another year and a half of this on the rest of us on Fairfield Life, can you PLEASE do us a favor this season and occasionally throw in something that is positive, and not a complaint? For

[FairfieldLife] Re: License To Complain

2011-09-08 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: snip So how is economic inequality in the Netherlands these days? How is unemployment there? Don't know about these items specifically, but I found the following of interest, especially in the context of America-bashing:

[FairfieldLife] Book smartFFlandia: Did You Read?

2011-09-08 Thread merudanda
Book smart Portlandia: Did You Read? Fred Armisen and Carrie Brownstein, from Portlandia episode 4, at a cafe in North Portland challenge each other on reading material asking each other, Did you read... a list of publications read by the desperately in-the-know types Armisen and Brownstein are

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-08 Thread whynotnow7
You are welcome. Yes it is a huge relief taking it as it comes, vs. interpreting everything through a filter of stories in order for everything to make sense. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noah wayback71@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@

[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of bija mantras

2011-09-08 Thread merudanda
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: If it does, would you share some of it with us? At $50, the book isn't within my budget, I'm afraid! http://books.google.com/books?id=7ykZjWOiBMoCpg=PA148dq=Consciousness+\

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-08 Thread whynotnow7
Think I'm kidding? Jim recently said essentially this, after seeing that I have no interest in becoming liberated. (Even though I've said as much many times.) His response seemed to me to be coming from a place of total ego, and from an assumed position of superiority. It's as if he cannot even

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-08 Thread whynotnow7
Reading through your confused rap you also seem to imply that I am a spiritual teacher? I'll make a deal with you - you estimate how much money I have made as a spiritual teacher, how many followers I have, how many spiritual books I've written, how many people I've converted to my point of

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-08 Thread whynotnow7
RESPONSE: Yes. Whatever science discovers about the brain in the next 1000 years cannot begin to explain the inner experiential, subjective life of richardwillytexwilliams. REPLY: OK, but that isn't me. Thanks for your explanation though. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra

[FairfieldLife] Re: why MMY not use kleem beeja mantra? (kleem or Kleeng ?)

2011-09-08 Thread emptybill
Marcio Did you post this by accident? Or do you not remember the previous post # 288389? Kleem/Kleeng is the bija mantra of kama devataa or desire. In the West that deity was known as Eros or Cupid. The mantra is used for intensifying attraction and desire. That is probably why it was not

[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of bija mantras

2011-09-08 Thread emptybill
Woodroofe was criticized for being too close to the Indians, thus the other British called them his Brahmin pals. You know ... those swarthy brown skin types the Brit upper-class loved to mock. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@... wrote: here she is:(Beatrice

Re: [FairfieldLife] Origin of bija mantras

2011-09-08 Thread Bhairitu
I don't know where you live but I would suggest if you have an Indian community there to become familiar with local yogis and tantrics. Many will advertise in the local Indian publications as astrologers. You'll have to sniff out the charlatans but there are some very knowledge people out

[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of bija mantras

2011-09-08 Thread merudanda
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: If it does, would you share some of it with us? At $50, the book isn't within my budget, I'm afraid! Re: Origin of bija mantras --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: If it does, would you

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-08 Thread PaliGap
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: [snip] I appreciate that McGinn is leaving a shelf open for the things which are beyond our cognitive limits. It seems wise and is in line with my own articulation of my pet phrase epistemological

[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of bija mantras

2011-09-08 Thread emptybill
A suggestion that could be lead to much confusion. No self-respecting Indian has less than 20-30 mantras on hand at any time. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: I don't know where you live but I would suggest if you have an Indian community there to become

[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of bija mantras

2011-09-08 Thread emptybill
I ordered it thru Amazon (1995 edition) for $18.95 ($22.94 w/shipping). --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, William Parkinson ameradian2@ wrote: I wish I could say I understood enough about Tantric doctrines to fully

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-08 Thread curtisdeltablues
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost1uk@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: [snip] I appreciate that McGinn is leaving a shelf open for the things which are beyond our cognitive limits. It seems wise and is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of bija mantras

2011-09-08 Thread richardwillytexwilliams
Marcio: ... and saraswast is a deity? The Saraswati bija mantra IS Sri Saraswati - Pure Intelligence, or Sri Vidya - Auspicious Wisdom. The Saraswati bija, because it consists of indestructible seed syllables (bijaksara) rather than words, transcends such mundane considerations as deity or

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-08 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: The only thing that is deficient in your atheism (...) is that it leaves out the truth that: At one time God *did* indeed exist, Ain't that just something? (I have removed the lengthy stuff between the parentheses to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of bija mantras

2011-09-08 Thread Bhairitu
Nonsense. I said hang out not become a disciple. I've talked with many an Indian (I had Indian employees where I worked) about these things. It was insightful to hear how a typical Indian grew up in the Brahmin catechism (or sometimes didn't). I also attended many a vedic astrology

[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of bija mantras

2011-09-08 Thread richardwillytexwilliams
William Parkinson: My next read is _Consciousness in Advaita Vedanta... In the book Back to the Truth: 5000 years of Advaita, Dennis Waite's magnum opus, the definitive study of Advaita Vedanta (from A to V) has been penned... - Floyd Henderson 'Back to the Truth' 5000 years of Advaita By

[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of bija mantras

2011-09-08 Thread richardwillytexwilliams
emptybill No self-respecting Indian has less than 20-30 mantras on hand at any time. The following bija mantra observances are incumbant on every Hindu. 1.Conception with parents reciting bija mantras. 2.Recitation of bija mantras for begetting a son. 3.Hair-parting ceremony with bija

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-08 Thread maskedzebra
By the way, PaliGap, are you responsible for getting this on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24gi8iXyuYg JH at his utmost. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: The only thing

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of bija mantras

2011-09-08 Thread William Parkinson
Dear Bhairitu, one religious tradition at a time! I am still learning about M and Advaitic thought. But one day I will take the time to explore it. Cheers Bill From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 1:22 PM Subject: Re:

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-08 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: Think I'm kidding? Jim recently said essentially this, after seeing that I have no interest in becoming liberated. (Even though I've said as much many times.) His response seemed to me to be coming from a place of total

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of bija mantras

2011-09-08 Thread William Parkinson
That is a good price. I will wait until I read it though to see if I want purchase it. Tell us what you think about it, for I think you will get your copy long before I get mine on loan. Cheers Bill   From: emptybill emptyb...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday,

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-08 Thread obbajeeba
This thread is starting to look like, lol.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_1kwG18Gfs --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: Think I'm kidding? Jim recently said essentially this,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of bija mantras

2011-09-08 Thread emptybill
This is not in any way a definitive study. It is a large book giving a general view of the advaita perspective. It could be good, perhaps, for people not familiar with the source material or for those who need quick reminders about certain topics. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: why MMY not use kleem beeja mantra? (kleem or Kleeng ?)

2011-09-08 Thread Marcelo rosa
OK , emptybill yes I looked, but I thought you did not understand because my English is not good, sorry, on the other hand ... what you mean by results not good ? attract bad things? harmful ? however you say receiving things not good, only to kleeem mantra ? , or you say also for any other

[FairfieldLife] *Almost* like Real YF?? ;D

2011-09-08 Thread cardemaister
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2011/09/symbian-microsoft-apps/ Could the unthinkable have happened? Nokia and Microsoft released a joint announcement that both of them will be rolling out a Symbian software updates which are otherwise known as Microsoft Apps. These updates will definitely carve a

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-08 Thread whynotnow7
Yay! I win!!:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: Think I'm kidding? Jim recently said essentially this, after seeing that I have no interest in becoming liberated. (Even though

[FairfieldLife] Re: why MMY not use kleem beeja mantra? (kleem or Kleeng ?)

2011-09-08 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote: Marcio Did you post this by accident? Or do you not remember the previous post # 288389? Kleem/Kleeng is the bija mantra of kama devataa or desire. In the West that deity was known as Eros or Cupid. FWIW, in some

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: why MMY not use kleem beeja mantra? (kleem or Kleeng ?)

2011-09-08 Thread Marcelo rosa
i think no kreem is no variant of kleem , no , no 2011/9/8 cardemaister no_re...@yahoogroups.com ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote: Marcio Did you post this by accident? Or do you not remember the previous post # 288389? Kleem/Kleeng

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of bija mantras

2011-09-08 Thread William Parkinson
For those who are interested, Abebooks.com has two copies of _Consciousness in Advaita Vedanta_  at the total cost, including shipping, of $15. And that is really an excellent buy, although I will wait to read it first before I commit to buying it. Cheers Bill From: emptybill

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-08 Thread PaliGap
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: By the way, PaliGap, are you responsible for getting this on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24gi8iXyuYg JH at his utmost. Ha! Outed.

[FairfieldLife] Re: why MMY not use kleem beeja mantra? (kleem or Kleeng ?)

2011-09-08 Thread emptybill
This is a mantra for creating desires and attraction. This is the why you need to be clear about you desire. You might actually get what you want but that may not turn out to be something good. It all depends upon your motivation. So, what do you want for yourself and why do you want to use this

[FairfieldLife] Re: why MMY not use kleem beeja mantra? (kleem or Kleeng ?)

2011-09-08 Thread emptybill
Kriim/kreem is for Kali --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marcelo rosa tmer1306@... wrote: i think no kreem is no variant of kleem , no , no 2011/9/8 cardemaister no_re...@yahoogroups.com ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote: Marcio

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: This photo will stun you

2011-09-08 Thread Alex Stanley
Why do you forward this bullshit without checking it out first? It makes you look like a complete fucking idiot. http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/postamerican.asp --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wleed3 WLeed3@... wrote: Begin forwarded message: From: Richard Stauffer

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: This photo will stun you

2011-09-08 Thread authfriend
yawn http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/postamerican.asp William, don't you ever get tired of being lied to? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wleed3 WLeed3@... wrote: THIS WILL CURDLE YOUR BLOOD AND CURL YOUR HAIR The name of the book Obama is reading is called: The

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: This photo will stun you

2011-09-08 Thread curtisdeltablues
It is by the brilliant Fareed Zakaria. I wonder if Obama is reading to avoid the issues he warns against that will drop our status in the world? Here are his shocking suggestions: 1 Choose priorities rather than trying to have it all 2 Build broad rules, not narrow interests Recommit

[FairfieldLife] Re: why MMY not use kleem beeja mantra? (kleem or Kleeng ?)

2011-09-08 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote: Marcio Did you post this by accident? Or do you not remember the previous post # 288389? Kleem/Kleeng is the bija mantra of kama devataa

[FairfieldLife] Was that our president speaking tonight?

2011-09-08 Thread Tom Pall
We are no longer in the time of the Founding Fathers. Presentation on radio (FDR) and TV (Truman and beyond) count a whole lot. So when are we going to elect a president of the United States? Hilary has more range of emotions and and tembre in her voice than Obama. That's not just

[FairfieldLife] Post Count

2011-09-08 Thread FFL PostCount
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Sep 03 00:00:00 2011 End Date (UTC): Sat Sep 10 00:00:00 2011 560 messages as of (UTC) Fri Sep 09 00:12:23 2011 41 Yifu yifux...@yahoo.com 38 richardwillytexwilliams willy...@yahoo.com 35 whynotnow7 whynotn...@yahoo.com

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count

2011-09-08 Thread Alex Stanley
Yo, Yiffy! Don't forget the extra post down at the bottom. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount ffl.postcount@... wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Sep 03 00:00:00 2011 End Date (UTC): Sat Sep 10 00:00:00 2011 560 messages as

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count

2011-09-08 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: Yo, Yiffy! Don't forget the extra post down at the bottom. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount ffl.postcount@ wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-08 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT75Uce6pqc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT75Uce6pqc This helps. This definitely helps, after a long day. Of course, the realization that I wasn't realized---since nothing changes

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-08 Thread obbajeeba
The best scene! LOL --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT75Uce6pqc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT75Uce6pqc This helps. This definitely

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-08 Thread obbajeeba
The other best scene! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fICVCI6EfQfeature=related --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote: The best scene! LOL --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob

[FairfieldLife] 'Paging...back in the day'..

2011-09-08 Thread Robert
Paging History When the House comes back into session this week, there will be no teenagers in blue blazers running around and filling up lawmakers’ water glasses and fetching documents. Members of Congress may actually have to open doors for themselves. The venerable House page program,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Marketing 9/11

2011-09-08 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: One of the things that has been most dismaying for me the last week No, it hasn't. is to watch the parade of 9/11 articles parading across Internet portals. From the point of view of an expat, this seems to me to be a lot

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