[FairfieldLife] Purification of naaDii-s (naaDii-shuddhi), part 1

2012-04-20 Thread cardemaister
tato dakshiNahastasya a~NgushhThenaiva pi~Ngalaam.h .. 36.. nirudhya puurayedvaayumiDayaa tu shanaiH shanaiH . yathaashaktyavirodhena tataH kuryaachcha kumbhakam.h .. 37.. punastyajetpi~Ngalayaa shanaireva na vegataH . punaH pi~Ngalayaapuurya puurayedudara.n shanaiH .. 38.. dhaarayitvaa

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purification of naaDii-s (naaDii-shuddhi), part 1

2012-04-20 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote: tato dakshiNahastasya a~NgushhThenaiva pi~Ngalaam.h .. 36.. nirudhya puurayedvaayumiDayaa tu shanaiH shanaiH . (Transliteration modified:) Then (tataH) right-hand's (dakSiNa-hastasya) an.guSThena (with the thumb;

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: The most interesting studies on TM started to appear in 1980 with the first Pure Consciousness study. The latest study cited in that passage was 1980. A

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Apr 19, 2012, at 3:32 PM, sparaig wrote: The most interesting

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-20 Thread Vaj
On Apr 19, 2012, at 3:34 PM, sparaig wrote: Read that passage that Vaj quoted. The researchers who conducted this experiment are the same ones who wrote that chapter. They see no reason to include TM in any experiment for the reasons they give in that chapter. Where do they say that

[FairfieldLife] The Myth of Pure Consciousness, was Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-20 Thread Vaj
On Apr 19, 2012, at 8:15 PM, sparaig wrote: Convenient. The same researchers have said that they won't pay attention to the Pure Consciousness research until there is a Western theory that explains why it is of value. That makes sense. No one's ever shown that there is such a thing as

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-20 Thread Vaj
On Apr 19, 2012, at 9:37 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: I think the problem other researchers (non-TM org researchers) have with TM research is TM research usually seems to be conducted primarily to find positive things about TM. There are some positive things about TM. But they are

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-20 Thread Vaj
On Apr 20, 2012, at 6:50 AM, sparaig wrote: Well, R. Keith Wallace's original PhD thesis from 1970 suggested this, but the claim hasn't been made in decades that I am aware of. Keith Wallace was found to be using fraudulent methodology and was forced to retract most of his claims. So

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-20 Thread Vaj
On Apr 20, 2012, at 7:00 AM, sparaig wrote: Now Vaj is right about falling asleep in TM, but if someone has been practicing TM for many, many years, does this still happen or happen as often? IMpossible to say. How much and how often you sleep would be dependent on the current sleep

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-20 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: Similarly, the initial claim that TM produces a unique state of consciousness different

[FairfieldLife] How the Transcendatal Meditation Org fakes researchMeditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-20 Thread Vaj
On Apr 20, 2012, at 8:12 AM, turquoiseb wrote: Ahem. Just a sampling from various TM org websites: http://www.tmscotland.org/stress-transcendental-meditation.html Many scientific research studies have clearly shown that the level of rest gained during Transcendental Meditation is deeper than

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: Similarly, the

[FairfieldLife] God and the Folly of Faith

2012-04-20 Thread Vaj
MIT reviews Vic Stenger's new work, God and the Folly of Faith. http://tech.mit.edu/V132/N19/stenger.html Victor Stenger has written a wickedly powerful book, so sharp and heretical that had it been published four centuries ago, the author would have been extra-crispy by the time the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-20 Thread Richard J. Williams
I'm surprised they didn't include TM on the list. Xenophaneros Anartaxius: Not every researcher is familiar with TM... So, I wonder why the researchers didn't include many Hindu meditation techniques? Samatha, Vipassana Samatha Not specified Zen Kriya Vipassana

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-20 Thread Richard J. Williams
Ahem. Just a sampling from various TM org websites: authfriend: Not one of which is relevant to the point I was making... So, whoever said you couldn't experience enlightenment while peacefully nodding in and out of waking state anyway? According to MMY, TM just provides the ideal

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Vajranatha

2012-04-20 Thread Richard J. Williams
So Vaj's guru will go to jail for rape and giving AIDS to a number of people. authorfriend: C'mon, Nabby, the dude died--of AIDS--in 1990. Now you can see why I call Vaj one of the slickest willies on the internet. Nobody but an clown would call himself a 'Vajradhatu', and then totally

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-20 Thread Richard J. Williams
That sleep-like stages may occur during TM says nothing whatsoever about whether TM produces a unique state of consciousness different from sleep, let alone *refutes* that claim... This has also been pointed out repeatedly to Vaj. sparaig: Well, R. Keith Wallace's original PhD

[FairfieldLife] TM as gateway drug

2012-04-20 Thread turquoiseb
I have been characterized and vilified on this forum and one other for many years as being anti-TM. I'm not. I think that TM -- as a simple (nay, simplistic) form of easily-learned meditation, without its accompanying baggage -- is essentially a Good Thing. If the TMO were to sell it for what it

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-20 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: Of course the lineal explanation is clear: if you're actually experiencing PC, need for sleep dramatically decreases. Same with witnessing: the well observed lineal pattern is if you're witnessing during sleep, the

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM as gateway drug

2012-04-20 Thread Richard J. Williams
turquoiseb: If the TMO were to sell it for what it is worth (the same $35 I paid for it), I'd have nothing bad about to say about TM per se... So, why did you give all that money to Rama? http://www.skepdic.com/rama.html Eventually, thousands of people would pay as much as $5,000 per

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-20 Thread Vaj
On Apr 20, 2012, at 11:25 AM, cardemaister wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: Of course the lineal explanation is clear: if you're actually experiencing PC, need for sleep dramatically decreases. Same with witnessing: the well observed lineal pattern is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-20 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote: That's one thing the writer of Yoga-tattva-upanishad seems to emphasize in connection with one of his techniques... Card, this is mainly curiosity on my part, with regard to your use of quotes above. You trip on words your

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM as gateway drug

2012-04-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: I have been characterized and vilified on this forum and one other for many years as being anti-TM. Of course, anti-TM hasn't been used in quite some time on FFL to characterize Barry (except by Barry himself in making claims

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: That's one thing the writer of Yoga-tattva-upanishad seems to emphasize in connection with one of his techniques... Card, this is mainly curiosity

Re: [FairfieldLife] Here's one for the Indiaphiles...

2012-04-20 Thread Bhairitu
On 04/20/2012 12:53 AM, turquoiseb wrote: You know, that group here that, following Maharishi's lead, likes to portray India as somehow reflecting his fantasies about how evolved and sattvic it is and how it's a model of what society will be like if only it pays for enough Maharishi brand

[FairfieldLife] For the Netflixers: Puncture

2012-04-20 Thread Bhairitu
This is based on a true story about drug addicted attorney and his partner that take on a case for an ER nurse who gets stuck with an infected needle. In the process they uncover a large conspiracy. This is an excellent film starring Chris Evans and shows what lengths big pharma will go to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-20 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: That's one thing the writer of Yoga-tattva-upanishad seems to emphasize in

[FairfieldLife] Too Much Copyright

2012-04-20 Thread Bhairitu
An informative video about how crazy the copyright laws have become: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFMl0stqai0 Occupy Hollywood!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Home from the Dome

2012-04-20 Thread Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: Buck fought the law and Buck won 7ray1, Bear with patience, tribulaton, Overcoming all temptation, Till the glorious jubilee; Soon it'll come with bursts of thunder, Then we shall adore and wonder,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Too Much Copyright

2012-04-20 Thread Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: An informative video about how crazy the copyright laws have become: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFMl0stqai0 Occupy Hollywood! That is interesting. Not too long ago (months ago) you could quick look up movie clips

[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Fairfield Police Department Reminds Cyclists

2012-04-20 Thread Dick Mays
(4/20) Fairfield Police Department Reminds Cyclists Of Bicycle Regulations And Laws The Fairfield Police Department would like to remind bicyclists that under city ordinance 10.58.010 they must obey the rules of the road just as a motor vehicle operator does or they’ll receive the same

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Fairfield Police Department Reminds Cyclists

2012-04-20 Thread Duveyoung
Those bastards! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays dickmays@... wrote: (4/20) Fairfield Police Department Reminds Cyclists Of Bicycle Regulations And Laws The Fairfield Police Department would like to remind bicyclists that under city ordinance 10.58.010 they must obey the

[FairfieldLife] Tom Gibbs' bullshit?

2012-04-20 Thread cardemaister
Tom Gibbs, fool.com: More Phones Nokia's (NYSE: NOK) Lumia series, despite the software glitches, has been received with strong sales in the U.S. market thus far. Unit sales hit 2 million within the first week of its launch, the device hit Amazon.com's (NASDAQ: AMZN) top sellers list, and

[FairfieldLife] Re: How the Transcendatal Meditation Org fakes researchMeditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Apr 20, 2012, at 8:12 AM, turquoiseb wrote: Ahem. Just a sampling from various TM org websites: http://www.tmscotland.org/stress-transcendental-meditation.html Many scientific research studies have clearly shown

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Too Much Copyright

2012-04-20 Thread Bhairitu
On 04/20/2012 09:54 AM, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote: An informative video about how crazy the copyright laws have become: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFMl0stqai0 Occupy Hollywood! That is interesting. Not too long ago (months ago) you

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Fairfield Police Department Reminds Cyclists

2012-04-20 Thread Bhairitu
Well, around here we have candidates for the Darwin awards riding the wrong way in one-way bike lanes on one-way streets where no one is going to be looking for them. In one case I had one of those idiots riding the wrong way on the busy two-lane street nearby and I might have hit him but I

Re: [FairfieldLife] TM as gateway drug

2012-04-20 Thread Bhairitu
On 04/20/2012 07:20 AM, turquoiseb wrote: I have been characterized and vilified on this forum and one other for many years as being anti-TM. I'm not. I think that TM -- as a simple (nay, simplistic) form of easily-learned meditation, without its accompanying baggage -- is essentially a Good

Re: [FairfieldLife] For the Netflixers: Puncture

2012-04-20 Thread Bhairitu
On 04/20/2012 09:17 AM, Bhairitu wrote: This is based on a true story about drug addicted attorney and his partner that take on a case for an ER nurse who gets stuck with an infected needle. In the process they uncover a large conspiracy. This is an excellent film starring Chris Evans and

[FairfieldLife] Breath of Fire Yoga Exercise

2012-04-20 Thread John
Has anyone tried this practice? Please, let us know about your experience. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsEZylK8sDA

Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Fairfield Police Department Reminds Cyclists

2012-04-20 Thread Mike Dixon
What? Are the Fairfield Police a bunch of stoners? What's the 4/20 all about? From: Dick Mays dickm...@lisco.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 10:27 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Fairfield Police Department Reminds Cyclists

[FairfieldLife] Re: Too Much Copyright

2012-04-20 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: I wouldn't blame Google. They bought YouTube and even one of the three YouTube founders disdained the new copyright rules. What you're talking about is fair use. YouTube doesn't go looking for the infringing videos. The

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Too Much Copyright

2012-04-20 Thread Bhairitu
On 04/20/2012 12:41 PM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote: I wouldn't blame Google. They bought YouTube and even one of the three YouTube founders disdained the new copyright rules. What you're talking about is fair use. YouTube doesn't go

[FairfieldLife] Living in a safe zone?

2012-04-20 Thread cardemaister
http://justpiper.com/2011/02/jps-review-brad-meltzers-decoded-apocalypse-in-georgia/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-20 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@... wrote: I'm surprised they didn't include TM on the list. Xenophaneros Anartaxius: Not every researcher is familiar with TM... So, I wonder why the researchers didn't include many Hindu meditation techniques? Who

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Apr 19, 2012, at 3:34 PM, sparaig wrote: Read that passage that Vaj quoted. The researchers who conducted this experiment are the same ones who wrote that chapter. They see no reason to include TM in any

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Apr 20, 2012, at 6:50 AM, sparaig wrote: Well, R. Keith Wallace's original PhD thesis from 1970 suggested this, but the claim hasn't been made in decades that I am aware of. Keith Wallace was found to be using

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Apr 20, 2012, at 7:00 AM, sparaig wrote: Now Vaj is right about falling asleep in TM, but if someone has been practicing TM for many, many years, does this still happen or happen as often? IMpossible to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tom Gibbs' bullshit?

2012-04-20 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote: Tom Gibbs, fool.com: More Phones Nokia's (NYSE: NOK) Lumia series, despite the software glitches, has been received with strong sales in the U.S. market thus far. Unit sales hit 2 million within the first week

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-20 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Apr 19,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-20 Thread Vaj
On Apr 20, 2012, at 5:29 PM, sparaig wrote: You quoted the Cambridge Handbook about TM. That is the authors' attitude on the subject. It’s not an “attitude”. It’s plainly citing evidence and what that evidence shows. Given that they believe what they say, why would they bother to include

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-20 Thread Vaj
On Apr 20, 2012, at 5:31 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Apr 20, 2012, at 6:50 AM, sparaig wrote: Well, R. Keith Wallace's original PhD thesis from 1970 suggested this, but the claim hasn't been made in decades that I am

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-20 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Apr 19, 2012, at 9:37 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: I think the problem other researchers (non-TM org researchers) have with TM research is TM research usually seems to be conducted primarily to find positive

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-20 Thread Vaj
On Apr 20, 2012, at 5:32 PM, sparaig wrote: That might be the case, but again, it depends on the current nervous system. SOmeone might have PC regularly every meditation period for years at a time, and then suddenly, not have any PC episodes for years at a time. At the level of PC the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-20 Thread Vaj
On Apr 20, 2012, at 6:01 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: OK let me revise that statement: in my *opinion* you characterise TM as being practically worthless, at least you give this impression just about every time you write about it. I just see it as a practice with no real pedigree,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Apr 20, 2012, at 5:29 PM, sparaig wrote: You quoted the Cambridge Handbook about TM. That is the authors' attitude on the subject. It's not an attitude. It's plainly citing evidence and what that evidence shows.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Apr 20, 2012, at 5:29 PM, sparaig wrote: You quoted the Cambridge Handbook about TM. That is the authors' attitude on the subject. It's not an attitude. It's plainly citing evidence and what that evidence shows.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Apr 20, 2012, at 5:31 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Apr 20, 2012, at 6:50 AM, sparaig wrote: Well, R. Keith Wallace's original PhD thesis from 1970

[FairfieldLife] Post Count

2012-04-20 Thread FFL PostCount
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Apr 14 00:00:00 2012 End Date (UTC): Sat Apr 21 00:00:00 2012 406 messages as of (UTC) Fri Apr 20 23:39:04 2012 39 Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net 38 turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com 38 sparaig lengli...@cox.net 30

[FairfieldLife] Asana, Sitting up in the Dome meditation

2012-04-20 Thread Buck
Returning now to meditate in the dome I am most pleased to see that the clamor and long-going public pressure about TM'ers just going to the domes and laying down to sleep as a meditation has paid off in a much improved discipline of practice in the dome. At the least, people are now generally

[FairfieldLife] Re: Asana, Sitting up in the Dome meditation

2012-04-20 Thread Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Returning now to meditate in the dome I am most pleased to see that the clamor and long-going public pressure about TM'ers just going to the domes and laying down to sleep as a meditation has paid off in a much improved discipline of

[FairfieldLife] Mutant Gulf

2012-04-20 Thread raunchydog
The BP Spill turned an entire ecosystem and way of living inside out. It's being covered up by smiling people inviting you to our Gulf Coast Cities and Beaches in ads. It's being hidden behind pictures of big heaping plates of staged seafood buffets. What's hidden behind the ads and the