--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
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Now that
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote:
Barry and Vaj remain intentionally confused and confusing
others about TM, while pretending superiority and denigrating
others.
Barry and Vaj ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT TM,
Raunchy.
We're talking about A DIFFERENT FORM OF
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfr...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
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--- In
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
All we're doing is discussing another form of meditation
than TM, and doing our best to describe to those who
have never experienced it how it works.
Who is paying you to do this missionary work for Buddhism ?
And why is
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
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Once you've responded to that, I'll consider
responding to yours. Got it?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
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No, Barry, what you go on to write has nothing to
do with my question; it's yet another attempt to
*evade* it.
Post #226334, if you want to refresh
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
P.S.--A prediction: Barry will not acknowledge how
horribly he messed up with regard to the quote from
the checking notes.
On the nose.
He didn't resort to any of my insteads, since I'd
predicted them, and he can't abide
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
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Barry and Vaj ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT TM,
Raunchy.
We're talking about A DIFFERENT FORM OF
MEDITATION, one that is based on a vastly different
set of theories about the mind and how it works
than TM's.
Except, of
IMO Mindfullness meditation is a bit like the first Chopra technique,
the one where the mantra comes out of the heart and then during lie
down you feel the bliss in the body. After having meditated and
performed TMSP for a long time, the habit of taking it as it comes and
going back to the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberat...@...
wrote:
IMO Mindfullness meditation is a bit like the first Chopra
technique, the one where the mantra comes out of the heart
and then during lie down you feel the bliss in the body.
After having meditated and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
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As an example of a mindfulness technique, just to
help you get it conceptually, think about the
process of meditating as described by the TMO. You
start thinking the mantra, find yourself lost in
thoughts, *realize*
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
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In the school of meditation I'm talking about, they
would view a meditation in which you sat there lost
in thoughts for 55 minutes and experiencing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
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It's the *definition* in your phrase by defi-
nition that is wrong, Judy.
No one is EVER completely lost in thoughts.
Well, OK, then it's the phrase
It's the *definition* in your phrase by defi-
nition that is wrong, Judy...
TurquoiseB wrote:
You are aware at every moment, and at every
moment are able to change *what* you are
thinking about...
Mind control is not a part of TM instruction.
Geez, another a creepy, lying screed from the bowels of Barry. Excuse my while
I shower.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 4:16 AM, seekliberationseekliberat...@yahoo.com wrote:
Just a question for you Bill.
I started practicing a similar technique you described that comes from Chopra
that is mixed with TM where the mantra comes out of the solar plexus, as
opposed to the heart like you
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, It's just a ride
bill.hicks.all.a.r...@... wrote:
http://www.ex-cult.org/Groups/Rama/wired
What a sad, funny, pathetic story. It explains so much.
Several have been driven to suicide, lost their minds, or disappeared
mysteriously, without a trace.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
But you can't exercise control as long as you're
*lost* in thoughts, by definition.
I am going to make an exception to my Never
bother speaking to Judy as
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
You have only CHOSEN to indulge the thoughts
and ignore the part of your consciousness
that is able to shift its focus at any moment.
May I quote, from the same TM Checking Notes
that Judy has been trotting out as if
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
You have only CHOSEN to indulge the thoughts
and ignore the part of your consciousness
that is able to shift its focus at any moment.
May I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
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I'm here arguing for your free will, and trying to
clue you in to the fact that you have one, and
you're arguing that you don't have any. And you're
doing it IN DIRECT CONTRADICTION to what
Maharishi himself said on
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
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I'm here arguing for your free will, and trying to
clue you in to the fact that you have one, and
you're arguing that you don't have any. And you're
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
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I'm here arguing for your free will, and trying to
clue you in to the fact that
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
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I'm here
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
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On Aug 2, 2009, at 12:16 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:
Deal with it. You are describing yourself as a
human being so weak-brained that when you meditate
you lose the ability to think a specific thought
until something allows you to. Are you suggesting
that you are possessed? It would explain much, if
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
On Aug 2, 2009, at 12:16 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:
Deal with it. You are describing yourself as a
human being so weak-brained that when you meditate
you lose the ability to think a specific thought
until something allows you
TurquoiseB wrote:
So it goes. Weak mind in meditation, weak mind
in conversation.
TMers don't practice mind control when they are
meditating.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
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Now that she has not only admitted but *cele-
brated* the fact that she does NOT have the
ability to think what she wants and (I suspect)
realized that this would put her at the bottom
of the class in any meditation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
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Now that she has not only admitted but *cele-
brated* the fact that she does NOT have the
ability to think what she wants and (I suspect)
realized
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
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Now that she has not only admitted but *cele-
brated* the fact that she does NOT
OK, I said I wouldn't deal with Barry's questions
until he's dealt with mine, but I've changed my mind,
because this is just too much fun to hold off on.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
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The quote I posted from the Checking Notes: It is
an important
Barry and Vaj remain intentionally confused and confusing others about TM,
while pretending superiority and denigrating others. Disgusting twits. So I
offer this quote from the checking notes, to give them another opportunity to
talk out of their asses and show us how little they know.
In
P.S.--A prediction: Barry will not acknowledge how
horribly he messed up with regard to the quote from
the checking notes.
Instead, he will deride MMY for teaching *the very
thing that Barry cited to me as being authoritative
and which he insisted I should take very seriously*.
Barry may even
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote:
When a thought comes, the mind is completely absorbed
in the thought.
This is the part Barry disagrees with so vehemently.
He claims the mind is *never* completely absorbed in
a thought.
My question is: How does he know
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote:
When a thought comes, the mind is completely absorbed
in the thought.
This is the part Barry disagrees with so vehemently.
He claims the mind is *never*
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
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Now that
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
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