[FairfieldLife] Question for 'bill hicks ride' Was: (Re: Which Maharishi Flip-Flop Teaching )

2009-08-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Now that

[FairfieldLife] Question for 'bill hicks ride' Was: (Re: Which Maharishi Flip-Flop Teaching )

2009-08-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: Barry and Vaj remain intentionally confused and confusing others about TM, while pretending superiority and denigrating others. Barry and Vaj ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT TM, Raunchy. We're talking about A DIFFERENT FORM OF

[FairfieldLife] Question for 'bill hicks ride' Was: (Re: Which Maharishi Flip-Flop Teaching )

2009-08-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfr...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Question for 'bill hicks ride' Was: (Re: Which Maharishi Flip-Flop Teaching )

2009-08-03 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: All we're doing is discussing another form of meditation than TM, and doing our best to describe to those who have never experienced it how it works. Who is paying you to do this missionary work for Buddhism ? And why is

[FairfieldLife] Question for 'bill hicks ride' Was: (Re: Which Maharishi Flip-Flop Teaching )

2009-08-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Once you've responded to that, I'll consider responding to yours. Got it?

[FairfieldLife] Question for 'bill hicks ride' Was: (Re: Which Maharishi Flip-Flop Teaching )

2009-08-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip No, Barry, what you go on to write has nothing to do with my question; it's yet another attempt to *evade* it. Post #226334, if you want to refresh

[FairfieldLife] Question for 'bill hicks ride' Was: (Re: Which Maharishi Flip-Flop Teaching )

2009-08-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: P.S.--A prediction: Barry will not acknowledge how horribly he messed up with regard to the quote from the checking notes. On the nose. He didn't resort to any of my insteads, since I'd predicted them, and he can't abide

[FairfieldLife] Question for 'bill hicks ride' Was: (Re: Which Maharishi Flip-Flop Teaching )

2009-08-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: snip Barry and Vaj ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT TM, Raunchy. We're talking about A DIFFERENT FORM OF MEDITATION, one that is based on a vastly different set of theories about the mind and how it works than TM's. Except, of

[FairfieldLife] Question for 'bill hicks ride' Was: (Re: Which Maharishi Flip-Flop Teaching )

2009-08-02 Thread seekliberation
IMO Mindfullness meditation is a bit like the first Chopra technique, the one where the mantra comes out of the heart and then during lie down you feel the bliss in the body. After having meditated and performed TMSP for a long time, the habit of taking it as it comes and going back to the

[FairfieldLife] Question for 'bill hicks ride' Was: (Re: Which Maharishi Flip-Flop Teaching )

2009-08-02 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberat...@... wrote: IMO Mindfullness meditation is a bit like the first Chopra technique, the one where the mantra comes out of the heart and then during lie down you feel the bliss in the body. After having meditated and

[FairfieldLife] Question for 'bill hicks ride' Was: (Re: Which Maharishi Flip-Flop Teaching )

2009-08-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: snip As an example of a mindfulness technique, just to help you get it conceptually, think about the process of meditating as described by the TMO. You start thinking the mantra, find yourself lost in thoughts, *realize*

[FairfieldLife] Question for 'bill hicks ride' Was: (Re: Which Maharishi Flip-Flop Teaching )

2009-08-02 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip In the school of meditation I'm talking about, they would view a meditation in which you sat there lost in thoughts for 55 minutes and experiencing

[FairfieldLife] Question for 'bill hicks ride' Was: (Re: Which Maharishi Flip-Flop Teaching )

2009-08-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip It's the *definition* in your phrase by defi- nition that is wrong, Judy. No one is EVER completely lost in thoughts. Well, OK, then it's the phrase

[FairfieldLife] Question for 'bill hicks ride' Was: (Re: Which Maharishi Flip-Flop Teaching )

2009-08-02 Thread WillyTex
It's the *definition* in your phrase by defi- nition that is wrong, Judy... TurquoiseB wrote: You are aware at every moment, and at every moment are able to change *what* you are thinking about... Mind control is not a part of TM instruction.

[FairfieldLife] Question for 'bill hicks ride' Was: (Re: Which Maharishi Flip-Flop Teaching )

2009-08-02 Thread raunchydog
Geez, another a creepy, lying screed from the bowels of Barry. Excuse my while I shower. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Question for 'bill hicks ride' Was: (Re: Which Maharishi Flip-Flop Teaching )

2009-08-02 Thread It's just a ride
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 4:16 AM, seekliberationseekliberat...@yahoo.com wrote: Just a question for you Bill. I started practicing a similar technique you described that comes from Chopra that is mixed with TM where the mantra comes out of the solar plexus, as opposed to the heart like you

[FairfieldLife] Question for 'bill hicks ride' Was: (Re: Which Maharishi Flip-Flop Teaching )

2009-08-02 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.r...@... wrote: http://www.ex-cult.org/Groups/Rama/wired What a sad, funny, pathetic story. It explains so much. Several have been driven to suicide, lost their minds, or disappeared mysteriously, without a trace.

[FairfieldLife] Question for 'bill hicks ride' Was: (Re: Which Maharishi Flip-Flop Teaching )

2009-08-02 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: But you can't exercise control as long as you're *lost* in thoughts, by definition. I am going to make an exception to my Never bother speaking to Judy as

[FairfieldLife] Question for 'bill hicks ride' Was: (Re: Which Maharishi Flip-Flop Teaching )

2009-08-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: You have only CHOSEN to indulge the thoughts and ignore the part of your consciousness that is able to shift its focus at any moment. May I quote, from the same TM Checking Notes that Judy has been trotting out as if

[FairfieldLife] Question for 'bill hicks ride' Was: (Re: Which Maharishi Flip-Flop Teaching )

2009-08-02 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: You have only CHOSEN to indulge the thoughts and ignore the part of your consciousness that is able to shift its focus at any moment. May I

[FairfieldLife] Question for 'bill hicks ride' Was: (Re: Which Maharishi Flip-Flop Teaching )

2009-08-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: snip I'm here arguing for your free will, and trying to clue you in to the fact that you have one, and you're arguing that you don't have any. And you're doing it IN DIRECT CONTRADICTION to what Maharishi himself said on

[FairfieldLife] Question for 'bill hicks ride' Was: (Re: Which Maharishi Flip-Flop Teaching )

2009-08-02 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip I'm here arguing for your free will, and trying to clue you in to the fact that you have one, and you're arguing that you don't have any. And you're

[FairfieldLife] Question for 'bill hicks ride' Was: (Re: Which Maharishi Flip-Flop Teaching )

2009-08-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip I'm here arguing for your free will, and trying to clue you in to the fact that

[FairfieldLife] Question for 'bill hicks ride' Was: (Re: Which Maharishi Flip-Flop Teaching )

2009-08-02 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip I'm here

[FairfieldLife] Question for 'bill hicks ride' Was: (Re: Which Maharishi Flip-Flop Teaching )

2009-08-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Question for 'bill hicks ride' Was: (Re: Which Maharishi Flip-Flop Teaching )

2009-08-02 Thread Vaj
On Aug 2, 2009, at 12:16 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: Deal with it. You are describing yourself as a human being so weak-brained that when you meditate you lose the ability to think a specific thought until something allows you to. Are you suggesting that you are possessed? It would explain much, if

[FairfieldLife] Question for 'bill hicks ride' Was: (Re: Which Maharishi Flip-Flop Teaching )

2009-08-02 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Aug 2, 2009, at 12:16 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: Deal with it. You are describing yourself as a human being so weak-brained that when you meditate you lose the ability to think a specific thought until something allows you

[FairfieldLife] Question for 'bill hicks ride' Was: (Re: Which Maharishi Flip-Flop Teaching )

2009-08-02 Thread WillyTex
TurquoiseB wrote: So it goes. Weak mind in meditation, weak mind in conversation. TMers don't practice mind control when they are meditating.

[FairfieldLife] Question for 'bill hicks ride' Was: (Re: Which Maharishi Flip-Flop Teaching )

2009-08-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: snip Now that she has not only admitted but *cele- brated* the fact that she does NOT have the ability to think what she wants and (I suspect) realized that this would put her at the bottom of the class in any meditation

[FairfieldLife] Question for 'bill hicks ride' Was: (Re: Which Maharishi Flip-Flop Teaching )

2009-08-02 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Now that she has not only admitted but *cele- brated* the fact that she does NOT have the ability to think what she wants and (I suspect) realized

[FairfieldLife] Question for 'bill hicks ride' Was: (Re: Which Maharishi Flip-Flop Teaching )

2009-08-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Now that she has not only admitted but *cele- brated* the fact that she does NOT

[FairfieldLife] Question for 'bill hicks ride' Was: (Re: Which Maharishi Flip-Flop Teaching )

2009-08-02 Thread authfriend
OK, I said I wouldn't deal with Barry's questions until he's dealt with mine, but I've changed my mind, because this is just too much fun to hold off on. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: snip The quote I posted from the Checking Notes: It is an important

[FairfieldLife] Question for 'bill hicks ride' Was: (Re: Which Maharishi Flip-Flop Teaching )

2009-08-02 Thread raunchydog
Barry and Vaj remain intentionally confused and confusing others about TM, while pretending superiority and denigrating others. Disgusting twits. So I offer this quote from the checking notes, to give them another opportunity to talk out of their asses and show us how little they know. In

[FairfieldLife] Question for 'bill hicks ride' Was: (Re: Which Maharishi Flip-Flop Teaching )

2009-08-02 Thread authfriend
P.S.--A prediction: Barry will not acknowledge how horribly he messed up with regard to the quote from the checking notes. Instead, he will deride MMY for teaching *the very thing that Barry cited to me as being authoritative and which he insisted I should take very seriously*. Barry may even

[FairfieldLife] Question for 'bill hicks ride' Was: (Re: Which Maharishi Flip-Flop Teaching )

2009-08-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: When a thought comes, the mind is completely absorbed in the thought. This is the part Barry disagrees with so vehemently. He claims the mind is *never* completely absorbed in a thought. My question is: How does he know

[FairfieldLife] Question for 'bill hicks ride' Was: (Re: Which Maharishi Flip-Flop Teaching )

2009-08-02 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: When a thought comes, the mind is completely absorbed in the thought. This is the part Barry disagrees with so vehemently. He claims the mind is *never*

[FairfieldLife] Question for 'bill hicks ride' Was: (Re: Which Maharishi Flip-Flop Teaching )

2009-08-02 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Now that

[FairfieldLife] Question for 'bill hicks ride' Was: (Re: Which Maharishi Flip-Flop Teaching )

2009-08-02 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfr...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In