[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did publicity work for Chopra for years. I'm on a first name basis with both his original movement publicist, Carla Linton (-Browne) and Muriel Nellis (who is still his publicist, last I heard). I know where at least

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing I recall hearing is that Chopra was hoping to include non-Ayurvedic (Chinese? Tibetan? His own?) modalities in the Maharishi Ayurveda clinics and MMY said no. This prompted Douliard to leave the Maharishi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: Who the hell cares? He wasn't there when the Beatles were in Rishikesh.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Behalf Of sparaig Nyah. Except maybe on YOUR part, to not note she's correct about this. Few people ever call Barry on his Judy obsession except to joke about it, but many make hostile remarks towards

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: On Behalf Of sparaig Nyah. Except maybe on YOUR part, to not note she's correct about this. Few people ever call Barry on his Judy obsession

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-15 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: I blame Chopra for that as much as anyone. Chopra is the one who decided to become the media darling rather than sit at the feet

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-15 Thread curtisdeltablues
We (including Chopra himself, quite consciously --I know his publicists, remember) literally worked for years to make Deepak Chopra a household word in order to further the goals Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and the TMO and he took our work and betrayed us. But Lawson, you know what it is like to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: I blame Chopra for that as much as anyone. Chopra is the one who

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-15 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, abutilon108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm thankful to Deepak for sharing his personal experiences with Maharishi and the circumstances of his leaving the movement. Of course, it's a beautifully written piece, and seems quite straightforward and honest.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-15 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I blame Chopra for that as much as anyone. Chopra is the one who decided to become the media darling rather than sit at the feet of the guru. The entire thing with the rajas and whatnot is obviously a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-15 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] The fact that you can overcome it now and limit your number of posts and yet claimed for years that you couldn't *because* of the brain dys- function makes it applicable. I claimed that my ADHD made itimpossible

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-15 Thread authfriend
Lawson, I just sent you an email to whatever email address you have registered with Yahoo (i.e., I sent it via the Web site).

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We (including Chopra himself, quite consciously --I know his publicists, remember) literally worked for years to make Deepak Chopra a household word in order to further the goals Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I'm just trying to point out that Lawson's seem- ingly noble stance ain't quite as noble as he'd like to portray. Using his line of reasoning, everyone who ever contributed big bucks to one of Maharishi's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-15 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: We (including Chopra himself, quite consciously --I know his publicists, remember) literally worked for years to make Deepak

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: [...] The fact that you can overcome it now and limit your number of posts and yet claimed for years that you couldn't *because* of the brain dys-

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Chopra is whatever he is. I DON'T CARE. What is becoming apparent, however, is what YOU and the others who are writing hundreds of lines to FFL demonizing him are. Angry, vindictive, obsessed, and above all,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-15 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, abutilon108 abutilon108@ wrote: I'm thankful to Deepak for sharing his personal experiences with Maharishi and the circumstances of his leaving the movement. Of course, it's a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-15 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just one of those wonderful double standards-- er, I mean, contradictions--that Curtis is so fond of, I guess. Or more technically gay for. However I am just as gay for your wicked sense of humor Judy so

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I had the opportunity to exchange a few sentences with Dr. Chopra not too long after he left the TMO. He essentially said the same thing. Iindicating that the JAMA lawsuit was the final straw. That was my

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-15 Thread curtisdeltablues
Just one of those wonderful double standards-- er, I mean, contradictions--that Curtis is so fond of, I guess. Or more technically gay for. However I am just as gay for your wicked sense of humor Judy so please don't feel gay deprived. My beef with Chopra revolved around him giving me a magic

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-15 Thread curtisdeltablues
BTW, did you pay a $700 check made out to Deepak Chopra or was it made out to the non-profit Maharishi Ayurveda Fund (MAF)? Good question, I can't remember. I may have a paper trail somewhere. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Lawson wrote:] BTW, did you pay a $700 check made out to Deepak Chopra or was it made out to the non-profit Maharishi Ayurveda Fund (MAF)? Good question, I can't remember. I may have a paper trail somewhere.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-15 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bingo. Selfless service is called that because it's selfless; you're do the work because it gives you joy to do the work. If you EXPECT something in returh, then it's not really selfless service now, is it?...Every

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-15 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I had the opportunity to exchange a few sentences with Dr. Chopra not too long after he left the TMO. He essentially said the same thing. Iindicating that the JAMA lawsuit was the final straw. He had just

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: --- authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: That was

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: snip Your and Judith's remarks about Chopra's (quite open and honest

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: snip Your and Judith's remarks about Chopra's (quite open and honest

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geez, Chopra was well after my time in the TMO and, if I remember correctly, after yours as well. Therefore I have no feelings about him one way or another, and I've always wondered about the strong anti-Chopra

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread claudiouk
Towards the end MMY was clearly irritated by Chopra - I remember seeing a video where Chopra was speaking to the camera and MMY was in the background and clearly noticeable were subtle side to side movements of his jaw or face. Basically unlike Hagelin who talks about Physics in a way MMY

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 2:18 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo Yes, and the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread lurkernomore20002000
I blame Chopra for that as much as anyone. Chopra is the one who decided to become the media darling rather than sit at the feet of the guru. The entire thing with the rajas and whatnot is obviously a direct response to Chopra. You can't get on Oprah wearing a silly- looking crown. Lawson

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: --- authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Yes, and the american purusha that poisened him. The story didn't identify the suspect as an American Purusha. Just a Westerner. The very assumption that there *was* a poisoning is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Peter
--- claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .. And I was told that MMY said to Chopra much the same thing he'd said to Ravi Shankar - if you need to teach go ahead but we must go our separate ways.. Interesting that both Chopra Ravi Shankar featured in commentaries about MMY after his

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I blame Chopra for that as much as anyone. Chopra is the one who decided to become the media darling rather than sit at the feet of the guru. The entire thing with the rajas and whatnot is obviously a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Kirk
Everyone can be pretty sure Bevan will push the Maharishi envelope as superlatively as anything Maharishi did. It will still be fun to watch. this is one reason I have been excited by the TM Movement stories my whole life; at least it's totally fascinating metadrama.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Kirk
This pretty much sums up my impression of the man also. 3 doctors in the ambulance, and only himself, after the car reached the hospital was able to revive a dead body ? Sounds very strange. -That sounds strange to you? That sounds strange. But Nablusoss1008 is Aliester Crowley

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Kirk
and I've always wondered about the strong anti-Chopra feelings I've seen expressed on groups like this one. --Well, Ayurveda became a focal point in the mid eighties. First we saw all the vaidyas, then later yet we got Chopra for a spell. he seemed to me like a latecomer to the TMO who

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Kirk
You can't blame Maharishi for being overly polite, that's a typically Indian way of treating others. People namaste and bow and it's easy to develop the flowery style of propping people. Then Maharishi found that people liked it so he further worked with it. Deepak, or anyone, should not

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Geez, Chopra was well after my time in the TMO and, if I remember correctly, after yours as well. Therefore I have no feelings about him one way or

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...even Bevan will be hard pressed to remember his motivation soon and within ten years it's likely this first TM Movement will be basically over I believe that Deepak shows that even those closest to Maharishi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
Damn! You're on a real roll today, Kirk. Well said. That's it exactly. Yeah I agree. Kirk is serving up some mad intellectual gumbo this trip. Keep it up brother! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip So, geeze, what do you make of the fact that Chopra's given two

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Peter
--- Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and I've always wondered about the strong anti-Chopra feelings I've seen expressed on groups like this one. --Well, Ayurveda became a focal point in the mid eighties. First we saw all the vaidyas, then later yet we got Chopra for a spell. he

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread hugheshugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernhardt@ wrote: ...even Bevan will be hard pressed to remember his motivation soon and within ten years it's likely this first TM Movement will be

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Pitoy Ko Dako
Was MMY was incommunicado between August 1, 1991 - August 1,1992? Did MMY move to Vlodrop late 1992? Where is Neil Patterson? Nandkishore? Jerry Jarvis? etc.? Too many rumors. Can someone please write a factual Inside the TMO book? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Kirk
Maharishi, after all, did the same thing. We have NO IDEA what the real story of Guru Dev was. All we have is Maharishi's view of who and what he was. And that view is often at odds with the view of other people who were students of Guru Dev's at the same time Mahesh was. The only reason

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Kirk
Kirk, did you notice that Chopra, as a mouthpiece for MMY's teaching, got it wrong a lot? I used to listen to him at various TMO events and realize that he didn't have a clear understanding of what Maharishi was talking about. I think this is because he didn't spend all that time watching

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I think Deepak's credibility in this story comes down to this: Is it true what he says about Maharishi being incommunicado with the public (i.e., us, we the meditators) for such a long period of time? This

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 2:18 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Larry
this reads like a 21st century rig veda - imagine the commentaries on this piece written 5000 years in the future. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maharishi, after all, did the same thing. We have NO IDEA what the real story of Guru Dev was. All we have

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The very assumption that there *was* a poisoning is the part of Chopra's story that sounds weird to me. He's a doctor; how could he even suggest such a thing if no one ever did the tests to support that theory? At

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This pretty much sums up my impression of the man also. 3 doctors in the ambulance, and only himself, after the car reached the hospital was able to revive a dead body ? Sounds very strange. -That sounds strange to

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 11:50 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo USA is still

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Feb 14, 2008, at 9:15 AM, authfriend wrote: (So much for Barry's umpteenth vow, made just yesterday, not to respond to me. This is the way he usually sneaks back in, by ostensibly responding to someone else who has responded to me and demonizing me in those comments, without mentioning my

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Houston, I think we have a problem. At the very least, Chopra has some questions to answer. In addition to Chopra's contradictory stories about why the Beatles left Rishikesh, and the apparent falsehoods in Chopra's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maharishi, after all, did the same thing. We have NO IDEA what the real story of Guru Dev was. All we have is Maharishi's view of who and what he was. And that view is often at odds with the view of other people who were

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 11:50 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 14, 2008, at 9:15 AM, authfriend wrote: (So much for Barry's umpteenth vow, made just yesterday, not to respond to me. This is the way he usually sneaks back in, by ostensibly responding to someone else

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Marek Reavis
Sal, who here hasn't asked these two to stop with the incessant and pointless feuding. Obvious to one and all, irritating to the max, incapable of being ended because the 'other' always starts it up again. Turq posts with a broad (and often cheeky) brush and Judy can't resist calling him on

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sal, who here hasn't asked these two to stop with the incessant and pointless feuding. Obvious to one and all, irritating to the max, incapable of being ended because the 'other' always starts it up again. Turq

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavismarek@ wrote: Sal, who here hasn't asked these two to stop with the incessant and pointless feuding. Obvious to one and all, irritating to the max,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Richard J. Williams
Kirk wrote: I also under the auspices of the Kanchi Shank and other Sri Vidya devotees was the only white guy out of a hundred Hindus to be in the first Saundaraya Lahiri Japa Yajna So, you're thinking that there is an oral tradition in India and that the TM bija mantras are derived from

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Tom
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It'll be obvious to one and all at FFL when Sat Yuga finally dawns. Another nomination for Quote Of The Week. The first one was pretty damn goog though... You folks crack me up.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Marek Reavis
Judy, the only person who cares if if was a Gotta Get Judy post is you and maybe Barry. Perhaps you excercise tremendous constraint and don't reply as often as you'd like to Barry's posts. All I can say is what has been said by many, many people who post here, myself included -- it's boring,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Feb 14, 2008, at 1:18 PM, Marek Reavis wrote: Sal, who here hasn't asked these two to stop with the incessant and pointless feuding. Obvious to one and all, irritating to the max, incapable of being ended because the 'other' always starts it up again. Turq posts with a broad (and often

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip The very assumption that there *was* a poisoning is the part of Chopra's story that sounds weird to me. He's a doctor; how could he even suggest

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Kirk
Bija mantras exist in many tantras. Lakshmi tantra of Vaisnavas and Upanishads from Narasimhanada and so on. Mantras are not news. They exist in many works including Shrimaddevi Bhagavatum, the Devi Purana. Mantras of the bija style pervade the puranas and were primary to the whole Vedic

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Hagen J. Holtz
I heard Maharishi once been saying that the TM-Mantras came from the so-called mantra shastras. I have never been studying them, but he said that this is a complete source, which may even contain the mantras of physical immortality, which have once been carried off by some demon . -

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Richard J. Williams
Kirk wrote: Bija mantras exist in many tantras. Maybe so, but aren't most of the tantras relativlely recent? Most of the works which mention bija mantras are recent compositions. For example, the Tripura Upanishad was probably composed as recently as the 18th century. My point is that the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Richard J. Williams
Hagen wrote: I heard Maharishi once been saying that the TM-Mantras came from the so-called mantra shastras. I have never been studying them, but he said that this is a complete source, which may even contain the mantras of physical immortality, which have once been carried off by some

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hagen J. Holtz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I heard Maharishi once been saying that the TM-Mantras came from the so-called mantra shastras. I have never been studying them, but he said that this is a complete source, which may even contain the mantras of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hagen J. Holtz hagen.j.holtz@ wrote: I heard Maharishi once been saying that the TM-Mantras came from the so-called mantra shastras. I have never been studying them, but he

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hagen J. Holtz hagen.j.holtz@ wrote: I heard Maharishi once been saying that the TM-Mantras came

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread shempmcgurk
Marek: It would be nice to hear a legal opinion on the following: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/165362 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sal, who here hasn't asked these two to stop with the incessant and pointless

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavismarek@ wrote: Judy, the only person who cares if if was a Gotta Get Judy post is you and maybe Barry. Perhaps you excercise tremendous constraint and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread abutilon108
I'm thankful to Deepak for sharing his personal experiences with Maharishi and the circumstances of his leaving the movement. Of course, it's a beautifully written piece, and seems quite straightforward and honest. Clearly Chopra is reflecting on the contradictory impressions he is left with of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, abutilon108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm thankful to Deepak for sharing his personal experiences with Maharishi and the circumstances of his leaving the movement. Of course, it's a beautifully written piece, and seems quite straightforward and honest.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Kirk
I read your website on the subject. Earliest pictures of Lakshmi are Buddhist coins of Gaja or Elephant Lakshmi from 100 CE. The Shri Suktam is considered late Vedic at placed at 400 BCE. If you know the Shree Suktam then you know the original 16 quatrains have the associated letters of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judy, the only person who cares if if was a Gotta Get Judy post is you and maybe Barry. Perhaps you excercise tremendous constraint and don't reply as often as you'd like to Barry's posts. All I can say is what

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Tom
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, since so many appeals (and brickbats) have already been addressed to (or thrown at) me alone, I'm not inclined to entertain even appeals addressed to both of us until after I see a bunch of them addressed to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Marek Reavis
Shemp, I'm not an expert here. As has been pointed out and based on what Chopra has written, the times he attended on Maharishi in a physician context was in India and England, both of those instances would have put him out of the jurisdictional reach of any U.S. court. Maybe not outside of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Peter
Maybe doctor-patient confidentiality is stricter for psychologists than for medical doctors. --- Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shemp, I'm not an expert here. As has been pointed out and based on what Chopra has written, the times he attended on Maharishi in a physician context

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Actually, since so many appeals (and brickbats) have already been addressed to (or thrown at) me alone, I'm not inclined to entertain even appeals addressed

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Marek Reavis
Peter, it might be that being treated by a psychologist or psychiatrist is itself something of an admission that the patient has mental health issues and that carries something of a stigma that going to a medical doctor doesn't, and consequently there's that extra proviso. But that's only my

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, abutilon108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm thankful to Deepak for sharing his personal experiences with Maharishi and the circumstances of his leaving the movement. Of course, it's a beautifully written piece, and seems quite straightforward and honest.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: ---

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Your and Judith's remarks about Chopra's (quite open and honest IMO) article in the Huffington Post reveal an obvious agenda against him. In the past day we've had Bevan talking about Maharishi being

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: snip Your and Judith's remarks about Chopra's (quite open and honest

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] The whole symptomatology is impossibly vague. And maybe it wasn't actually pancreatitis but just a bad pain in the gut symptomatic of the heart attack. Which would lead you down a whole 'nother path.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Towards the end MMY was clearly irritated by Chopra - I remember seeing a video where Chopra was speaking to the camera and MMY was in the background and clearly noticeable were subtle side to side movements of his

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .. And I was told that MMY said to Chopra much the same thing he'd said to Ravi Shankar - if you need to teach go ahead but we must go our separate ways.. Interesting

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: snip

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavismarek@ wrote: Judy, the only person who cares if if was a Gotta Get Judy post is you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavismarek@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] That whole pastoral idyll in England Chopra describes having alone with MMY seems to have been some kind of wish-fulfillment fantasy. Fascinating... Where did you hear this? Lawson

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: [...] She's often speculated that its the fact she's a *woman* that draws certain people's ire. I often think so also. Appreciate the support, but I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: [...] Who the hell cares? He wasn't there when the Beatles were in Rishikesh.

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