[FairfieldLife] Re: Earl Kaplan: The Matrix and Maharishi Occult Powers to siphon off energy

2010-12-30 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: Hey, Lawson!! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: Hey all, was bored and thought I'd let mysef get sucked into the mosh pit for a sec: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Earl Kaplan: The Matrix and Maharishi Occult Powers to siphon off energy

2010-12-30 Thread Tom Pall
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 7:36 AM, sparaig lengli...@cox.net wrote: Eh, the more things change... Of course, Vaj will claim that he refuted Tom's characterization; you will claim that Vaj is lying; Vaj and others will make fun of your claim; etc. Personally, I'm excited by the work that the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earl Kaplan: The Matrix and Maharishi Occult Powers to siphon off energy

2010-12-30 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig lengli...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip And are you suggesting that MMY was confident a group of 10,000 (per the letter, not 7,000) would create world peace, but that it was possible that world

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earl Kaplan: The Matrix and Maharishi Occult Powers to siphon off energy

2010-12-29 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@ wrote: [quoting Earl Kaplan] Mahesh with his practice and teaching has done an amazing thing. He has diverted the focus and efforts of a large group of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Earl Kaplan: The Matrix and Maharishi Occult Powers to siphon off energy

2010-12-29 Thread Vaj
On Dec 28, 2010, at 10:54 PM, Tom Pall wrote: I agree with Sal and Peter provided they're talking about the W- W Shri Yantra. Sounds too W-W to me Yeah, there are many people who subscribe to such Vedic rituals Tom. Some even pay Vedic and Tantric priests to perform such

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Earl Kaplan: The Matrix and Maharishi Occult Powers to siphon off energy

2010-12-29 Thread Vaj
On Dec 28, 2010, at 11:24 PM, tartbrain wrote: Just thinkin', if the bulk of the material in EK's letter is true, then there are a number of implications that one would have to accept. 1) SSRS would have to be a fake. He grew and was polished n his years around MMY, validated MMY's

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Earl Kaplan: The Matrix and Maharishi Occult Powers to siphon off energy

2010-12-29 Thread Vaj
On Dec 29, 2010, at 12:03 AM, Joe wrote: I really wish I had more time to devote to this post than I do...but I don't. The majority of your points are ridiculous. (Puts hip-waders on) Most are fairly transparent to experienced non- TB members of this list. I addressed the few I had time

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Earl Kaplan: The Matrix and Maharishi Occult Powers to siphon off energy

2010-12-29 Thread Vaj
On Dec 29, 2010, at 12:06 AM, Buck wrote: Though it seems there is most always a back story to what you list too. Way more nuance than black and whiting. I think it is much more interesting to take EK at face-value. EK was there and you were not. Though like yourself many of us were

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earl Kaplan: The Matrix and Maharishi Occult Powers to siphon off energy

2010-12-29 Thread wayback71
Hope all goes well.Looking forward to your posts again soon. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote: Sorry to sound so cagey about time. I'm awaiting heart surgery to correct an electrical problem caused by open heart (really open like out of my body on a plate)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earl Kaplan: The Matrix and Maharishi Occult Powers to siphon off energy

2010-12-29 Thread Duveyoung
I won't be praying for ya, won't be wishing ya good stuff, won't be woo-wooing nothing, but if you die, it's going to be a very bad day for me. Thumbs up, Dude . . . Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote: Sorry to sound so cagey about time. I'm awaiting heart

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earl Kaplan: The Matrix and Maharishi Occult Powers to siphon off energy

2010-12-29 Thread whynotnow7
Hang in there Joe. All the best. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote: Thanks man. 7:45am (so they tell me) PST on Wednesday. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@ wrote: state the exact time. I'll chant some mantras for you then. ---

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Earl Kaplan: The Matrix and Maharishi Occult Powers to siphon off energy

2010-12-29 Thread Vaj
Sounds like you're having a radio frequency ablation? These are much more routine than they used to be. You'll do well. On Dec 29, 2010, at 12:52 AM, Joe wrote: Thanks man. 7:45am (so they tell me) PST on Wednesday. ___

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earl Kaplan: The Matrix and Maharishi Occult Powers to siphon off energy

2010-12-29 Thread sparaig
Hey all, was bored and thought I'd let mysef get sucked into the mosh pit for a sec: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.p...@... wrote: April 16, 2004 I said, Maharishi, since you have the money and supposedly you have enough pundits, why don't you create a 10,000 group

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earl Kaplan: The Matrix and Maharishi Occult Powers to siphon off energy

2010-12-29 Thread RoryGoff
Hey, Lawson! It's very good to see you again. Right, there is absolutely no point in coming here trying to change other people's minds. FWIW I find I am here primarily to meet, love, know, and enjoy all the various waves of our own Being; I find FFL works extraordinarily well for that --

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earl Kaplan: The Matrix and Maharishi Occult Powers to siphon off energy

2010-12-29 Thread WillyTex
Joe: I'm awaiting heart surgery to correct an electrical problem caused by open heart (really open like out of my body on a plate) surgery in 2001 on my mitral valve... Good luck, Joe.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earl Kaplan: The Matrix and Maharishi Occult Powers to siphon off energy

2010-12-29 Thread authfriend
Hey, Lawson!! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig lengli...@... wrote: Hey all, was bored and thought I'd let mysef get sucked into the mosh pit for a sec: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@ wrote: [quoting Earl Kaplan] April 16, 2004 I said,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earl Kaplan: The Matrix and Maharishi Occult Powers to siphon off energy

2010-12-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Dec 28, 2010, at 11:24 PM, tartbrain wrote: Just thinkin', if the bulk of the material in EK's letter is true, then there are a number of implications that one would have to accept. 1) SSRS would have to be a fake.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Earl Kaplan: The Matrix and Maharishi Occult Powers to siphon off energy

2010-12-28 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Dec 28, 2010, at 3:38 PM, whynotnow7 wrote: EK definitely butchered that sacred cow! lol Jim, as my kids would say~~you have issues. Grow up. Sal

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earl Kaplan: The Matrix and Maharishi Occult Powers to siphon off energy

2010-12-28 Thread feste37
This would make a good plot for a fantasy novel or movie. Sounds to me that someone is making something up. I wonder who? Obviously, if EK really was told this by some swamis in India, they didn't like MMY -- but what does that prove? Sounds like professional jealousy to me. --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earl Kaplan: The Matrix and Maharishi Occult Powers to siphon off energy

2010-12-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 fest...@... wrote: This would make a good plot for a fantasy novel or movie. Sounds to me that someone is making something up. I wonder who? Obviously, if EK really was told this by some swamis in India, they didn't like MMY -- but what does that

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Earl Kaplan: The Matrix and Maharishi Occult Powers to siphon off energy

2010-12-28 Thread Tom Pall
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 5:39 PM, authfriend jst...@panix.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 fest...@... wrote: This would make a good plot for a fantasy novel or movie. Sounds to me that someone is making something up. I wonder who? Obviously, if EK really was told

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Earl Kaplan: The Matrix and Maharishi Occult Powers to siphon off energy

2010-12-28 Thread Peter
It sounded completely absurd to me the first time I heard it and it still does. It makes me question Earl's intellectual capacities. This is the Indian version of talking shit. --- On Tue, 12/28/10, feste37 fest...@yahoo.com wrote: From: feste37 fest...@yahoo.com Subject: [FairfieldLife]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earl Kaplan: The Matrix and Maharishi Occult Powers to siphon off energy

2010-12-28 Thread whynotnow7
Hi Sal, madly in love with me as usual I see! As long as you don't try to get any more personal with me, I'll tolerate your flirtatious ways...lol I am assuming you read EK's letter. I thought he successfully butchered his sacred cow. Why you think differently baffles me. perhaps you haven't

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Earl Kaplan: The Matrix and Maharishi Occult Powers to siphon off energy

2010-12-28 Thread Tom Pall
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 9:27 PM, whynotnow7 whynotn...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Sal, madly in love with me as usual I see! As long as you don't try to get any more personal with me, I'll tolerate your flirtatious ways...lol I am assuming you read EK's letter. I thought he successfully butchered

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earl Kaplan: The Matrix and Maharishi Occult Powers to siphon off energy

2010-12-28 Thread RoryGoff
Yes, perhaps so. We are given such a divine opportunity when a set of long- and deeply-cherished beliefs starts to crumble into dust, and yet we so often merely trade that cage for another -- anything to retain a solid sense of separation, discontent and purpose, anything to resist a genuine

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earl Kaplan: The Matrix and Maharishi Occult Powers to siphon off energy

2010-12-28 Thread emptybill
Yep, it's fool's shit posing as esoterica. He got snookered by the movement and snookered a second time by a bunch of bullshit sadhus. Where ever there are monstics this is a problem. Yep, it's fool's shit posing as tantric esoterica. He got snookered by the movement and snookered a second time

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earl Kaplan: The Matrix and Maharishi Occult Powers to siphon off energy

2010-12-28 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Dec 28, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Tom Pall wrote: Mahesh, after traveling throughout India, found a man who could activate the outer portions of the Shri Yantra. This gave Mahesh certain occult powers and control over

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earl Kaplan: The Matrix and Maharishi Occult Powers to siphon off energy

2010-12-28 Thread Joe
I really wish I had more time to devote to this post than I do...but I don't. The majority of your points are ridiculous. The only thing that Earl says that I have no opinion or personal knowledge of is the bit about Guru Dev's supposed murder and the stolen yantra. The rest of your

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earl Kaplan: The Matrix and Maharishi Occult Powers to siphon off energy

2010-12-28 Thread Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Dec 28, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Tom Pall wrote: Mahesh, after traveling throughout India, found a man who could activate the outer portions of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earl Kaplan: The Matrix and Maharishi Occult Powers to siphon off energy

2010-12-28 Thread tartbrain
Hi Joe, I look forward to your thoughts and discussing them when you have time to flesh them out. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote: I really wish I had more time to devote to this post than I do...but I don't. The majority of your points are ridiculous.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earl Kaplan: The Matrix and Maharishi Occult Powers to siphon off energy

2010-12-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.p...@... wrote: [quoting Earl Kaplan] Mahesh with his practice and teaching has done an amazing thing. He has diverted the focus and efforts of a large group of spiritual seekers and made it so impossible for them to have spiritual

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earl Kaplan: The Matrix and Maharishi Occult Powers to siphon off energy

2010-12-28 Thread Joe
Very well said Doug. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Dec 28, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Tom Pall wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earl Kaplan: The Matrix and Maharishi Occult Powers to siphon off energy

2010-12-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote: I really wish I had more time to devote to this post than I do...but I don't. The majority of your points are ridiculous. The only thing that Earl says that I have no opinion or personal knowledge of is the bit about Guru

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earl Kaplan: The Matrix and Maharishi Occult Powers to siphon off energy

2010-12-28 Thread Joe
Did I write like I was attempting to convince? No. I stated my opinion and that to take Tarts points one by one would require way more time than I have. In the meantime Doug/Buck summed it up better than I could given a short amount of time. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earl Kaplan: The Matrix and Maharishi Occult Powers to siphon off energy

2010-12-28 Thread yifuxero
3 issues are at stake, at least: (1) factoids; e.g. the yantra stuff, true or false? (2)(in 2 parts): there's a conflating of personal integrity issues with a true Consciousness level (i.e. Self-Realization, Unity). The exhibition of moral turpitude doesn't necessarily detract from the status

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earl Kaplan: The Matrix and Maharishi Occult Powers to siphon off energy

2010-12-28 Thread Joe
Sorry to sound so cagey about time. I'm awaiting heart surgery to correct an electrical problem caused by open heart (really open like out of my body on a plate) surgery in 2001 on my mitral valve. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote: Did I write like I was

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earl Kaplan: The Matrix and Maharishi Occult Powers to siphon off energy

2010-12-28 Thread yifuxero
state the exact time. I'll chant some mantras for you then. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote: Sorry to sound so cagey about time. I'm awaiting heart surgery to correct an electrical problem caused by open heart (really open like out of my body on a plate)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earl Kaplan: The Matrix and Maharishi Occult Powers to siphon off energy

2010-12-28 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote: Though it seems there is most always a back story to what you list too. Way more nuance than black and whiting. Thats true, there are nuances and lots of gray. Though I am open to anything, and I read this (had read

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earl Kaplan: The Matrix and Maharishi Occult Powers to siphon off energy

2010-12-28 Thread authfriend
Joe, you'd be pissed if you'd put some effort into writing a thoughtful post and somebody commented, Well, I don't have time to say why, but this is all nonsense. It adds nothing to the discussion; it's just rude and insulting. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earl Kaplan: The Matrix and Maharishi Occult Powers to siphon off energy

2010-12-28 Thread authfriend
Wow. Sending positive thoughts your way. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote: Sorry to sound so cagey about time. I'm awaiting heart surgery to correct an electrical problem caused by open heart (really open like out of my body on a plate) surgery in 2001 on my

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earl Kaplan: The Matrix and Maharishi Occult Powers to siphon off energy

2010-12-28 Thread Joe
Thanks man. 7:45am (so they tell me) PST on Wednesday. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifux...@... wrote: state the exact time. I'll chant some mantras for you then. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfreak@ wrote: Sorry to sound so cagey about time. I'm

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earl Kaplan: The Matrix and Maharishi Occult Powers to siphon off energy

2010-12-28 Thread tartbrain
Best of luck and healing with it all. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote: Thanks man. 7:45am (so they tell me) PST on Wednesday. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@ wrote: state the exact time. I'll chant some mantras for you then.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earl Kaplan: The Matrix and Maharishi Occult Powers to siphon off energy

2010-12-28 Thread Joe
Thank you Judy. See you on the flip side. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: Wow. Sending positive thoughts your way. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfreak@ wrote: Sorry to sound so cagey about time. I'm awaiting heart surgery to correct

[FairfieldLife] Re: Earl Kaplan: The Matrix and Maharishi Occult Powers to siphon off energy

2010-12-28 Thread RoryGoff
Thanks for letting us know, Joe; with your permission we'll be holding you in the light. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote: Thanks man. 7:45am (so they tell me) PST on Wednesday. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@ wrote: state the