[FairfieldLife] Re: Not Satire eliminate the old and disabled Judy

2011-07-20 Thread johnt
It's the same exact evil. It's just that the Fascists have become more subtle about how they do it. Many right wing Republicans are still linked to the Nazis of WW2. Prescott Bush was almost charged with treason for dealing with Hitler during the war, but his connections quashed it. The

[FairfieldLife] Re: Not Satire eliminate the old and disabled Judy

2011-07-20 Thread richardjwilliamstexas
johnlasher: The eugenics program is alive and well and just like Hitler they want to eliminate the non producers from society. Adolph Hitler was a National Socialist, but most of the early advocates of eugenics were liberal Democrats. You do realize that most early advocates of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Not Satire eliminate the old and disabled Judy

2011-07-18 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, johnt johnlasher20002000@ wrote: What I'm saying, and I fully understand what satire and irony are, is that this is too serious a situation to deal with subtly or through

[FairfieldLife] Re: Not Satire eliminate the old and disabled Judy

2011-07-18 Thread jpgillam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, johnt johnlasher20002000@... wrote: making light or trivializing a potential genocide is what I object to. Do not read this article, then: http://www.theonion.com/articles/nigeria-chosen-to-host-2008-genocides,1261/ Nigeria Chosen To Host 2008 Genocides

[FairfieldLife] Re: Not Satire eliminate the old and disabled Judy

2011-07-18 Thread richardjwilliamstexas
johnlasher: Hissy plus plus still having it... Maybe getting out and voting would be a better idea, instead of posting satire on a newsgroup forum, and trying to pick a fight with Judy. If you're new to this group, that wouldn't be a good way to introduce yourself! Plus, you could write your

[FairfieldLife] Re: Not Satire eliminate the old and disabled

2011-07-18 Thread richardjwilliamstexas
Bhairitu: To get the US out of debt we should tax stock sales on Wall Street. It could be a very small tax and again nothing that anyone would notice much... So, how much would taxing 'Wall Street' go toward either balancing the federal budget or eliminating the $14 trillion deficit?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Not Satire eliminate the old and disabled

2011-07-18 Thread richardjwilliamstexas
Bhairitu: Those are the ones to get out on the street... Maybe they could join a 'Tea Party Rally' to show they are against runaway federal spending and payroll taxation. Or, were you thinking you would start a new 'rally protest' to promote MORE taxation and MORE spending? You're not

[FairfieldLife] Re: Not Satire eliminate the old and disabled Judy

2011-07-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, johnt johnlasher20002000@ wrote: What I'm saying, and I fully understand what satire and irony are, is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not Satire eliminate the old and disabled

2011-07-18 Thread Bhairitu
On 07/18/2011 07:29 AM, richardjwilliamstexas wrote: Bhairitu: Those are the ones to get out on the street... Maybe they could join a 'Tea Party Rally' to show they are against runaway federal spending and payroll taxation. Or, were you thinking you would start a new 'rally protest' to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Not Satire eliminate the old and disabled

2011-07-18 Thread richardjwilliamstexas
Those are the ones to get out on the street... Maybe they could join a 'Tea Party Rally' to show they are against runaway federal spending and payroll taxation. Or, were you thinking you would start a new 'rally protest' to promote MORE taxation and MORE spending? You're

[FairfieldLife] Re: Not Satire eliminate the old and disabled

2011-07-18 Thread whynotnow7
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardjwilliamstexas willytex@... wrote: snip Has the U.S. declared war against anyone? Seriously??

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not Satire eliminate the old and disabled

2011-07-18 Thread Bhairitu
On 07/18/2011 11:32 AM, richardjwilliamstexas wrote: Those are the ones to get out on the street... Maybe they could join a 'Tea Party Rally' to show they are against runaway federal spending and payroll taxation. Or, were you thinking you would start a new 'rally protest' to promote

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not Satire eliminate the old and disabled Judy

2011-07-18 Thread Bhairitu
On 07/18/2011 09:20 AM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoisebno_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, johntjohnlasher20002000@ wrote: What I'm saying, and I fully understand

[FairfieldLife] Re: Not Satire eliminate the old and disabled Judy

2011-07-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 07/18/2011 09:20 AM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoisebno_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Not Satire eliminate the old and disabled Judy

2011-07-18 Thread richardjwilliamstexas
Bhairitu: Always notice that the Republicans say raise taxes as if they mean raise taxes on everyone not just people earning $250,000 or more a year. Well, I'd vote for a flat tax that everyone could pay. I'm against payroll taxation on general principles, but I'd be willing to pay my

[FairfieldLife] Re: Not Satire eliminate the old and disabled

2011-07-17 Thread johnt
The fact is, that elements in the Republican party and indeed Obama are talking about cutting Medicaid and Medicare. If they succeed this will have the actual effect of shorting the lives of the poor, elderly and disabled as quoted in the article, and will indeed lessen the expenses to the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Not Satire eliminate the old and disabled Judy

2011-07-17 Thread johnt
Judy, Perhaps you could write an example of a satire about the holocaust so I can have more of an idea of how you think this literary form is being used, not being an English scholar myself. The number of deaths of the most helpless in society due to this movement by some Republicans could

[FairfieldLife] Re: Not Satire eliminate the old and disabled

2011-07-17 Thread obbajeeba
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, johnt johnlasher20002000@... wrote: Not only is the Wall Street Journal involved in a wiretapping scandal, but now they have writers suggesting the elimination of the elderly and disabled through cutting their medical insurance. This article was

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not Satire eliminate the old and disabled

2011-07-17 Thread Bhairitu
The Republicans are pulling a robbery on Americans. And we have these fools who probably don't even earn much more than $50k a year supporting them! These are the goofballs that believe that people should be able to keep everything they earn. No paying back to the society that allowed them

[FairfieldLife] Re: Not Satire eliminate the old and disabled

2011-07-17 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: The Republicans are pulling a robbery on Americans. And we have these fools who probably don't even earn much more than $50k a year supporting them! These are the goofballs that believe that people should be able to keep

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not Satire eliminate the old and disabled

2011-07-17 Thread Bhairitu
On 07/17/2011 11:21 AM, obbajeeba wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, johntjohnlasher20002000@... wrote: Not only is the Wall Street Journal involved in a wiretapping scandal, but now they have writers suggesting the elimination of the elderly and disabled through cutting their

[FairfieldLife] Re: Not Satire eliminate the old and disabled Judy

2011-07-17 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, johnt johnlasher20002000@... wrote: Judy, Perhaps you could write an example of a satire about the holocaust so I can have more of an idea of how you think this literary form is being used, not being an English scholar myself. No, I'm not going to do

[FairfieldLife] Re: Not Satire eliminate the old and disabled Judy

2011-07-17 Thread johnt
I'm not stupid you arrogant * It's just that making light or trivializing a potential genocide is what I object to. Don't bother responding if you're to stupid to get my point. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, johnt

[FairfieldLife] Re: Not Satire eliminate the old and disabled Judy

2011-07-17 Thread authfriend
Nobody is making light of or trivializing the issue in question. That's not what satire does--quite the opposite. Maybe this will help: satire is like mockery. Everett is *mocking* those who think it's a good idea to cut Medicare and Medicaid and Social Security, pointing out that they're stupid

[FairfieldLife] Re: Not Satire eliminate the old and disabled Judy

2011-07-17 Thread feste37
I think John's point is that if the article is a satire (which it is certainly intended to be), it is a bad satire, because a significant number of people are seriously advocating some of the very things that the writer mentions. Now, with Swift's Modest Proposal, no one could possibly support

[FairfieldLife] Re: Not Satire eliminate the old and disabled Judy

2011-07-17 Thread johnt
What I'm saying, and I fully understand what satire and irony are, is that this is too serious a situation to deal with subtly or through sarcasm. The point I was trying to make is not a matter of you doing my homework asking you (Judy) to write a satire on the holocaust, but to demonstrate

[FairfieldLife] Re: Not Satire eliminate the old and disabled Judy

2011-07-17 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote: I think John's point is that if the article is a satire (which it is certainly intended to be), it is a bad satire, because a significant number of people are seriously advocating some of the very things that the writer

[FairfieldLife] Re: Not Satire eliminate the old and disabled Judy

2011-07-17 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, johnt johnlasher20002000@... wrote: What I'm saying, and I fully understand what satire and irony are, is that this is too serious a situation to deal with subtly or through sarcasm. The point I was trying to make is not a matter of you doing my homework

[FairfieldLife] Re: Not Satire eliminate the old and disabled Judy

2011-07-17 Thread johnt
The malice is just as great just under the guise of legitimacy probably for the same reasons greed. The right wing Republicans have a direct link to the Nazis. Look at Prescott Bush's dealing with the third Reich during WW2 (which was quashed) .the same underlying Fascism is alive and well and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Not Satire eliminate the old and disabled Judy

2011-07-17 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, johnt johnlasher20002000@... wrote: What I'm saying, and I fully understand what satire and irony are, is that this is too serious a situation to deal with subtly or through sarcasm. The point I was trying to make is not a matter of you doing my homework

[FairfieldLife] Re: Not Satire eliminate the old and disabled Judy

2011-07-17 Thread johnt
Hissy plus plus still having it --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, johnt johnlasher20002000@ wrote: What I'm saying, and I fully understand what satire and irony are, is that this is too serious a situation to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Not Satire eliminate the old and disabled

2011-07-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, johnt johnlasher20002000@... wrote: Not only is the Wall Street Journal involved in a wiretapping scandal, but now they have writers suggesting the elimination of the elderly and disabled through cutting their medical insurance. This article was