Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sunthar Visuvalingam

2005-03-18 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- Bob Brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, at_man_and_brahman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Again, who at MIU/MUM has heard of Abhinavagupta? Maharishi doesn't

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sunthar Visuvalingam

2005-03-18 Thread Vaj
On Mar 18, 2005, at 8:23 AM, Peter Sutphen wrote: Hey, I've heard of Abhinavagupta! But not at MIU. I've got The Triadic Heart of Shiva; Kaula Tantricism of Abhinavagupta in the Non-Dual Shaivism of Kashmir right in front of me. People with a TM background will be greatly enriched and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sunthar Visuvalingam

2005-03-18 Thread l_b_shriver
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, at_man_and_brahman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Again, who at MIU/MUM has heard of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sunthar Visuvalingam

2005-03-18 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 18, 2005, at 8:23 AM, Peter Sutphen wrote: Hey, I've heard of Abhinavagupta! But not at MIU. I've got The Triadic Heart of Shiva; Kaula Tantricism of Abhinavagupta in the Non-Dual Shaivism of Kashmir right in front of me. People with a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sunthar Visuvalingam

2005-03-18 Thread Vaj
Good morning: On Mar 18, 2005, at 8:19 AM, Peter Sutphen wrote: Would it be accurate to say that the pre-Aryan culture was a Shiva-Shakti spirituality? Yes it most certainly would be. But there is also a great diversity--it's not all Shiva-Shakti, but other deities as well--or in some case

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sunthar Visuvalingam

2005-03-18 Thread Vaj
On Mar 18, 2005, at 8:45 AM, Peter Sutphen wrote: Are there any living exponents of Shaivism alive today. Kashmir has suffered under 11 waves of Islamic invasion. In our lifetimes the last remnant of this tradition left Kashmir as the 350,000 Brahmin families left in a mass exodus. There

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sunthar Visuvalingam

2005-03-18 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where's Bonnie now? I heard she was teaching tantric classes, something like that. Bonnie's China Deli is now a coffee house. I see her in there. Dunno what else she's doing besides that. Where's Doug now.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sunthar Visuvalingam

2005-03-18 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 18, 2005, at 10:41 AM, cardemaister wrote: This is the only appearance of meat I could III.46. Those who eat the flesh of the cow and drink the immortal liquor daily, are regarded by men of noble family. Others

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sunthar Visuvalingam

2005-03-18 Thread Vaj
On Mar 18, 2005, at 3:49 PM, cardemaister wrote: Thanks! Of all the maansas, why go-maansa! In other words: it transgresses Brahmin taboos. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sunthar Visuvalingam

2005-03-18 Thread at_man_and_brahman
Sunthar has some significant skill in Jyotish, btw. That somewhat surprised me when I met him. He's also really into Tarot. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sunthar Visuvalingam

2005-03-17 Thread l_b_shriver
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, at_man_and_brahman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Again, who at MIU/MUM has heard of Abhinavagupta? Maharishi doesn't talk about him, so he's off the radar. ** Doug White knew all about Abhinavagupta. He's long gone, of course. L B S To

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sunthar Visuvalingam

2005-03-17 Thread Vaj
On Mar 17, 2005, at 10:27 PM, at_man_and_brahman wrote: (Your tautology aside) not especially, and Sunthar seems utterly uninterested in engaging in a discussion that will reveal its mysteries to me or connect it to my present and past paradigms. It's simple really. There are two basic

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sunthar Visuvalingam

2005-03-17 Thread at_man_and_brahman
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is transgressive sacrality. A useful synopsis. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sunthar Visuvalingam

2005-03-17 Thread Bob Brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, at_man_and_brahman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Again, who at MIU/MUM has heard of Abhinavagupta? Maharishi doesn't talk about him, so he's off the radar. **

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sunthar Visuvalingam

2005-03-17 Thread Rick Archer
on 3/17/05 9:27 PM, at_man_and_brahman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (Your tautology aside) not especially, and Sunthar seems utterly uninterested in engaging in a discussion that will reveal its mysteries to me or connect it to my present and past paradigms. Moreover, when I speak with