Yes, a similar split between religionists and spiritual practitioners is in TM
between those who hold forth (Bevanites) that Fairfield or the TM movement 'is
for those who have faith and belief in Maharishi and everyone else should
leave', and then individual practitioners whose spiritual
Re "Thanks for the excellent quote by Alexander Parker":
Yes, thanks for those limpid sentences. Can't imagine The Pope or Archbishop
of Canterbury ever coming up with words like that.
Jesus said: "For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am
I in the midst of
Thanks for the excellent quote by Alexander Parker. Unfortunately, the middle
of the 19th century witnessed a decline in the liberal theology of George Fox;
as the Fundamentalist perspective gained ascendance in the UK and the U.S. -
for example with John Nelson Darby (1800 - 1882) coming to
“… the first that enters into the place of your meeting, be not careless, nor
wander up and down either in body or mind, but innocently sit down in some
place and turn in thy mind to the Light, and wait upon God simply, as if none
were present but the Lord, and here thou art strong. When the
Text from Northern Europe I'd like to track down an essay that was written from
jail in Bern by Inspirationists who were at the risk of a conviction for heresy
and a death sentence. The essay was a crafted explanation of their separatist
spirituality, written judiciously in defense so as to get
..Lot of spiritual people [transcendentalists by other names] fled moving from
Europe to America. That can be mapped. A Lot like practicing meditators have
skirted around and left the TMO as it became doctrine bound, overtly
administrative, and itself more a belief-based (religious?) culture.
Excerpts that I heard presented in papers at a conference sounded very similar
to Barclay's Apology and not unlike a defended sort of fear that practicing TM
meditators contend with in the TMO's guidelines and administrative inquisitions
that are held in Fairfield around being able to stay in
Does TM have any European antecedents?
These old writings reference other writings coming from around Europe, the
lowlands, France and Spain and Austria. Through history these spiritual people
would have to take periodic refuge from the religion of the day and so they
moved around with
I was at a conference not long ago where papers were given by scholars who
recently have translated old German texts, letters, pamphlets, and tracts of
satsang-like spiritual groups that were in Northern Europe. Some of these old
texts were of the Community of True Inspiration, from their own
Yes, experienced Spirituality and its supporting ideas were much more fluid
than we might suppose moving across Europe evidently going way back in time.
People and their experiences with spirituality it seems have traveled back and
forth across Europe from early times and evidently the
Thanks for the followup discussions! I had to google Lollardy to find out
more. In that it's associated with Wycliffe and many Lollards were his
followers; it appears that relating to the eventual development of Quietism,
Wycliffe may have been in some ways a setback. His "Bible" only
Does TM have any European antecedents?
..we can isolate the Silence/Transcending aspect of TM, and for the same of
discussion, forget the Puja part. Then, TM would definitely be in the Quietist
camp, since there's no imposition of any religious images (they may or may not
arise
o: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 8:53 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM, Quietism, & the Quakers
Many Friends’ ideas can be traced to earlier groups. The first distinct
Protestant movement in England was Lollardy, arising in the late Middle Ages,
the 1370s.
Go
Many Friends’ ideas can be traced to earlier groups. The first distinct
Protestant movement in England was Lollardy, arising in the late Middle Ages,
the 1370s.
Good survey of earlier 'Antinomian' England:
Early Quaker History
http://homewoodfriends.org/2015/02/17/early-quaker-history-2/
"The spread of the Antinomian tradition, as begun by the Lollards, was by means
of extended kinship, intermarriage, and child rearing and education. As will be
seen, the Lollard movement, which continued right up to the English Reformation
of the 1530's, was a dissident religious reform
But thanks to people like George Fox, the Quietist movement lived on under
different names.
Yes, Jai George Fox!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
"Kinship, therefore, was a determinant of far more than mere bloodlines: it
was a radical cultural
"Kinship, therefore, was a determinant of far more than mere bloodlines: it was
a radical cultural transmitter, reflecting persistent defining cultural,
religious, and political traits. It continually revealed repetitive familial
continuities and ancient customs of significant proportions.
him out until he
pledged loyalty to Cromwell.LOL!
From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 11:57 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM, Quietism, & the Quake
MD, as one Western transcendental meditationist remarkably you evidently are
part of a long line-bred tradition that came out of European separatist
spirituality. This dissertation I am reading describes this as like the
genetics of cultural familial DNA, a “cultural genetics” passing as
Miguel de Molinos was the main inspiration.
But Madame Guyon - particularly through her book "A Short and Easy Method of
Prayer" - helped popularize his approach.
Her high-profile supporter was Archbishop Fenelon.
All three were targetted by the Church hierarchy. The history of
Knowing that, I guess I can make it another day.:)
From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
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To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM, Quietis
ent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 8:41 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM, Quietism, & the Quakers
George Fox, 1624 - 1691:
http://tinyurl.com/gph5ra9 http://tinyurl.com/gph5ra9
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Good example, MD of how a spiritual movements can spread in a time. Sort of
like TM did in the 1950-70's. By shakti of experience and then word of mouth
from family and friends. That was the Quaker spiritual movement in its day.
Mobility through kin and connection.
Someone here in
Yes, I had wondered this too and chronicled some of it in a subject thread here
on FFL.
Often those who were referred to as 'separatists' had quietism as a central
practice in addition to may be having Ritam Bhara P (inspired) or attending
spiritual (chakra) energy work (Pietists).
o: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 8:41 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM, Quietism, & the Quakers
George Fox, 1624 - 1691:http://tinyurl.com/gph5ra9
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George Fox, 1624 - 1691:
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