[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dangerous Mysteries of Consciousness

2009-12-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > Dogma -- even dogma that seems to "explain" subjective > experiences you've had -- doth NOT equal Truth. Never > has, never will. > > At best believing that it does is a pleasant mind-number, > something to keep you from pondering the gr

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dangerous Mysteries of Consciousness

2009-12-05 Thread dhamiltony2k5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > Believe what you want? > Or is it merely Just Another Subjective > Experience? Could the experience of enlightenment -- > and one's view of what constitutes reality and Truth > from the *standpoint* of enlightenment -- be Just > Anothe

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dangerous Mysteries of Consciousness

2009-12-05 Thread dhamiltony2k5
> > > > Dogma -- even dogma that seems to "explain" subjective > > experiences you've had -- doth NOT equal Truth. Never > > has, never will. > > > > At best believing that it does is a pleasant mind-number, > > something to keep you from pondering the great questions > > of life because you'v

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dangerous Mysteries of Consciousness

2009-12-04 Thread PaliGap
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "coulsong2001" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "PaliGap" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "coulsong2001" wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "PaliGap" wrote: > > > ... > > > > > > > I do

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dangerous Mysteries of Consciousness

2009-12-04 Thread coulsong2001
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "PaliGap" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "coulsong2001" wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "PaliGap" wrote: > > ... > > > > > I don't think the Turing test helps. Barry may look > > > and act in a way that is in

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dangerous Mysteries of Consciousness

2009-12-04 Thread dhamiltony2k5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > >.By Ron Rosenbaum on Slate.com > > > > > > "There's a certain kind of mystery—unsolved and probab

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dangerous Mysteries of Consciousness

2009-12-03 Thread PaliGap
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" wrote: > I'm verging on giving up here, every time I > spend more than a few minutes on a post > my computer crashes when I press send. > Does anyone else get this problem? Is your computer male? It's quite a common problem with the male of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dangerous Mysteries of Consciousness

2009-12-03 Thread Hugo
I'm verging on giving up here, every time I spend more than a few minutes on a post my computer crashes when I press send. Does anyone else get this problem? It never crashes with other programmes so I think it must have something to do with the yahoo software. Shame as defending Richard Dawk

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dangerous Mysteries of Consciousness

2009-12-03 Thread PaliGap
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "coulsong2001" wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "PaliGap" wrote: > ... > > > I don't think the Turing test helps. Barry may look > > and act in a way that is indistinguishable from a > > regular human being - but the question of whether >

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dangerous Mysteries of Consciousness

2009-12-03 Thread coulsong2001
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "PaliGap" wrote: ... > I don't think the Turing test helps. Barry may look > and act in a way that is indistinguishable from a > regular human being - but the question of whether > there IS such a thing as "being Barry" is a fact about > the world (ei

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dangerous Mysteries of Consciousness

2009-12-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "PaliGap" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > wrote: > > [snip] > > There's a certain kind of mystery—unsolved and > > probably insoluble—that has a seductive > > attraction for me. > [/snip] > > Yes, very interesting article.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dangerous Mysteries of Consciousness

2009-12-03 Thread PaliGap
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: [snip] > There's a certain kind of mystery—unsolved and > probably insoluble—that has a seductive > attraction for me. [/snip] Yes, very interesting article. Thanks. "Mysterian" - I like that. - "What are you?" - "Advaitan Tibetan

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dangerous Mysteries of Consciousness

2009-12-03 Thread WillyTex
TurquoiseB wrote > That's the True Believer phenomenon in > a nutshell... > Don't you just hate those 'True Believers'. "Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt > A long but well-written essay from Slate > that ponders some o

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dangerous Mysteries of Consciousness

2009-12-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > >.By Ron Rosenbaum on Slate.com > > > > "There's a certain kind of mystery—unsolved and probably > > insoluble—that has a seductive attraction for me. I think the > > in

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dangerous Mysteries of Consciousness

2009-12-03 Thread dhamiltony2k5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > >.By Ron Rosenbaum on Slate.com > > "There's a certain kind of mystery—unsolved and probably > insoluble—that has a seductive attraction for me. I think the > insolubility is the attraction. > I'm particularly troubled by metaphysical m