Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-31 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yes, I agree with that, and to complete things, it is their view of their world, which revolves around them. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : The Turq fellow behaves like any other Bimbo, they actually believe the world is centered around them. ---In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-31 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/30/2014 11:35 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Meanwhile, why is it that paragons of creative intelligence like Judy, Jimbo, Nabby, Ann, Willytex, and recently Steve can't seem to think of anything to write about but me? Whatever it is you are doing over

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 12:22 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again An actual quote from the real world: your dead kids don’t trump my Constitutional rights -- Joe The Plumber, in open letter

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 10:02 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again   I completely agree, Steve. I have lived many places, other than the US, and as frustrated and alienated as I get with the US, I continue to feel a deep

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 10:02 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again   I completely agree, Steve. I have lived many places, other than the US, and as frustrated and alienated

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 12:22 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again An actual quote from the real world: your dead kids don’t trump my Constitutional rights -- Joe The Plumber, in open letter to the shooting victims' families http

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 10:02 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again I completely agree, Steve. I have lived many places, other than the US, and as frustrated and alienated as I get with the US, I continue to feel a deep loyalty to the whole

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
it completely. From: j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 12:22 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again An actual quote from the real world: your dead kids don’t trump

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
10:02 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again I completely agree, Steve. I have lived many places, other than the US, and as frustrated and alienated as I get with the US, I continue to feel a deep loyalty to the whole experiment and culture, here. MMY said the US

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
, 2014 10:02 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again I completely agree, Steve. I have lived many places, other than the US, and as frustrated and alienated as I get with the US, I continue to feel a deep loyalty to the whole experiment and culture, here. MMY said the US

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
: Thursday, May 29, 2014 10:02 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again   I completely agree, Steve. I have lived many places, other than the US, and as frustrated and alienated as I get with the US, I continue to feel a deep loyalty to the whole experiment and culture, here

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again I completely agree, Steve. I have lived many places, other than the US, and as frustrated and alienated as I get with the US, I continue to feel a deep loyalty to the whole experiment and culture, here. MMY said the US was the most

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
. From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 10:02 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again I completely agree, Steve. I have lived many places, other than the US

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
: Friday, May 30, 2014 8:26 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again   Sometimes the questions arises in my mind, on this forum, Well what are youfor? Christ Allmighty, we know what you are against. Every so often, just sprinkle in something in the for column

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Well, now we know that Barry also conceives of Europeans as a monolith. I'd be willing to bet that many, if not most, Europeans have a view of the U.S. that is significantly more nuanced than Barry's. For sure, you could find some Americans who think the U.S. is just fine as it is. But

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 10:02 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again I completely agree, Steve. I have lived many places, other than the US, and as frustrated and alienated as I get with the US, I continue to feel a deep

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 12:22 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again   An actual quote from the real world: your dead kids don’t trump my Constitutional rights  -- Joe The Plumber, in open letter to the shooting victims' families http

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/29/2014 9:02 PM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I completely agree, Steve. I have lived many places, other than the US, and as frustrated and alienated as I get with the US, I continue to feel a deep loyalty to the whole experiment and culture, here. Being a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com You know, this reminds me of when I was at MIU - this is when I was still a believer in TM and TM-ishness and it really surprised me that most,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I don't make things up. Unlike Barry, I don't have to. I'm an amateur medievalist. One of the books I came to France to write is based on the Cathars (also known as the Albigensians), a religious sect that flourished in the 12th and 13th centuries. They had an interesting approach to teaching,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/30/2014 5:36 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I miss a few *places* in the United States, such as Big Sur and other power places I love, but I do not miss the country itself, and feel no affinity towards it at all. I am an American only through an accident of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/30/2014 6:57 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: On the other hand, figure in the original motive you supposedly had for moving to Europe. Research purposes. Maybe for purposes of convenience, you now indicate a different reason. To research and write a book on the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/30/2014 7:03 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: And there are fifty different versions of that (aka states), to choose from. Quite the carnival. The nice thing about being here in the the land of the free, is that we can go anywhere within the continental USA

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/30/2014 7:12 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Steve, that's interesting about Sweden. I read years ago that Europe has a dwindling birth rate and economists have associated that with economic challenges as the population ages. The real problem in places like

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 5/30/2014 6:57 AM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: On the other hand, figure in the original motive you supposedly had for moving to Europe. Research purposes. Maybe for purposes of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/30/2014 9:13 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I don't make things up. Unlike Barry, I don't have to. It looks like Barry has done a 180. Go figure. I'm kinda happy that my character in the book I'm writing is a heretic to the heretics, because obviously I can't quite iden-

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
He certainly has had no time to write an alternative novel, to compete with the one he has been rewriting on here, forever, entitled, I think, therefore, I am, Motherfucker, and don't you ever forget it, and another thing... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com He certainly has had no time to write an alternative novel, to compete with the one he has been rewriting on here, forever, entitled, I think, therefore, I am, Motherfucker, and don't you ever forget it, and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
what the heck do they throw 'em in the canals for? From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Barry reads only the posts that are about him. As to low standards, yes, in terms of subject matter, it doesn't get much lower than Barry. But it's amusing to push his buttons. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife]

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com what the heck do they throw 'em in the canals for? Some were stolen, and then tossed aside by the thieves. But interestingly enough, about 3/4 of them were *blown* there by the rather fierce winds we

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Barry studiously paints targets on himself, all day long, and then wails, with self-pity, Why is everyone *shooting* at me??? - lol More later, time to reload. :-) :-) :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife]

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Zeitgeist in Leiden-- Once again, the camera finds Barry, sitting by the canal, asking himself the question with no answer. Face tilted up to the grey sky, he questions himself, silently, and rigorously, Though I studiously, and continuously, paint targets on myself, why is everyone

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I don't know Barry. Why do you continue to reply to Nabby, or Doug? I guess because they say something that you take issue with. It's not complicated. You could, if you wanted, turn it around and say, why do you say things that are exaggerated, or designed simply to get a rise out of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
are here from overseas have no respect for their host country. From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 10:02 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again I completely agree

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread nablusoss1008
The Turq fellow behaves like any other Bimbo, they actually believe the world is centered around them. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com He certainly has had no time to write an

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I don't know Barry. Why do you continue to reply to Nabby, or Doug? I guess because they say something that you take issue with. It's not complicated. You could, if you wanted, turn it around and say, why do you say

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-29 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : The question is, how do we get to fewer guns? Given the country's history, and the Second Amendment, and the current political situation, it's much, much more complicated than you might

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-29 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : I simply do not believe this kind of go on strike and miss a few paychecks for the good of *all* of us thinking is even POSSIBLE in the U.S. any more. Polls indicate that the vast

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-29 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 12:22 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again An actual quote from the real world: your dead kids don’t trump my Constitutional rights -- Joe The Plumber, in open letter

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-29 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 12:22 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again An actual quote from the real world: your dead kids don’t trump my Constitutional rights -- Joe The Plumber, in open letter to the shooting victims' families http

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-29 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Bawee writes: I can't much believe in the concept of the will of the people when it comes to the United States. The country is simply no longer a participatory democracy. It has one of the lowest voter turnout rates among world democracies, and when people do vote, they don't get what

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-29 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yes, just look. You won't find what Barry describes, because he made it up, the way he makes up so many of the attitudes he ascribes to those on FFL he doesn't like. Just look at the way even supposed liberals on this forum wave around the phrase the Constitution the same way that

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-29 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : hate to show my ignorance, but what is a plod? A cop. As Salyavin suggests, most cops in the U.K. don't carry a gun. The cops in two countries I've

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-29 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Somewhere along the line, Barry lost confidence in his ability to make his points straightforwardly. And the only way he can think of to remedy this perceived deficiency is to exaggerate wildly, or even to lie--never realizing this makes his arguments even less convincing. Polls

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-29 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I don't know why it is that a describing an interaction like this strikes me as a bit weird. Maybe it's because when a person from another country chooses to live in the US, you sort of know why that is. You assume they like

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-29 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
As I recall, the reason Barry gave here back in 2005 for his move from the U.S. to France was that he was going to write some books, including a novel about the Cathars. He didn't say anything about leaving the country because it was such an awful place. (I don't think we've heard much since

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-29 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Somewhere along the line, Barry lost confidence in his ability to make his points straightforwardly. And the only way he can think of to remedy this perceived deficiency is to exaggerate wildly, or even to lie--never realizing

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-29 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/28/2014 10:26 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Perhaps the entire constitution should be scraped and we should start again from where we are now, not where we were in the 1700's. So, you're thinking that by depriving me of my basic civil rights, that will stop the next

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-29 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 5/28/2014 10:26 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Perhaps the entire constitution should be scraped and we should start again from where we are now, not where we were in the 1700's. So,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-29 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/28/2014 7:19 PM, feste37 wrote: True. And it's still badly written. As an editor, would you let that sentence go by you unaltered? I certainly wouldn't. Let's keep in mind that this is the /Bill of Rights/. What right would an amendment like this serve? Why would the authors want to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-29 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/28/2014 10:44 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : Salyavin, am I supposed to be impressed with two whole dumpsters filled with knives? If you want to impress me, have the little bastards that were doing all

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-29 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
On 05/29/2014 12:11 AM, salyavin808 wrote: Is it apathy or fear of changing the all powerful constitution? I saw a chat show interview between the awful Piers Morgan and some right-wing gun nut after the last primary school wipeout and Morgan had to resign after suggesting that gun controls

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-29 Thread salyavin808
Yes, there's good and bad on there. I did like this though: The Military Is Building Brain Chips to Treat PTSD http://www.defenseone.com/technology/2014/05/D1-Tucker-military-building-brain-chips-treat-ptsd/85360/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-29 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/29/2014 1:49 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I can't much believe in the concept of the will of the people when it comes to the United States. The country is simply no longer a participatory democracy. It has one of the lowest voter turnout rates among world

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-29 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/29/2014 2:11 AM, salyavin808 wrote: /And the country *stays* stopped until the guvmint caves to the will of the people./ I see why the guvverment of the UK has been trying to turn us into America for decades So you could earn some money? *'France in 14bn-euro tax black hole'* BBC

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-29 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/29/2014 3:06 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I think that part of it is the attachment people feel for IDEAS and MYTHS. They've been taught to believe in these things so long that they can't conceive of life without them. Now this is /really/ funny - a guy

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-29 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/29/2014 3:06 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: In short, if any American really woke up and took a look around them at the differences between the IDEAS and MEMES and MYTHS they'd been taught to believe about their country and what it's really like, they'd

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-29 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/29/2014 3:06 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: ...just look at the people on this forum who attempt to demonize ex-pats who have done just that. You are incorrect, I'm not trying to demonize a fellow Texan, all I'm saying is you're living in a place full of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-29 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Your take on the situation is even more simplistic than Barry's. It isn't a matter of fear of changing the Constitution; it's that doing so is miserably difficult, especially when there are powerful interests against a particular change: Constitutional Amendments - The U.S. Constitution

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-29 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/29/2014 10:33 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: So, you're thinking that by depriving me of my basic civil rights, that will stop the next killing? What's next? Civil rights, eh? Your civil right to carry a loaded instrument anytime and anywhere you like

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-29 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/29/2014 9:27 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: You really /should/ know what the Bill of Rights is, though. That's pretty basic. I'll do the research immediately. Sort of... Are you able to read? 'The Second Amendment as Ordinary Constitutional Law' by

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-29 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/29/2014 9:24 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: As I recall, the reason Barry gave here back in 2005 for his move from the U.S. to France was that he was going to write some books, including a novel about the Cathars. Apparently Barry gave up on the idea of writing a novel

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-29 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/29/2014 9:00 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Somewhere along the line, Barry lost confidence in his ability to make his points straightforwardly. And the only way he can think of to remedy this perceived deficiency is to exaggerate wildly, or even to lie--never realizing

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-29 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
but the people are such self-serving sheep that they'd literally rather die in the tens of thousands every year from guns than do anything about it. So they go out and buy guns of their own and wear them the same way Catholics wear St. Christopher medals, as if the guns were some kind of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-29 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/28/2014 4:16 PM, salyavin808 wrote: Oh well, pardon me for not knowing which dumbass amendment is which, all I see is the mess your stupid country has ended up in. You might start your research with English common-law and the English Bill of Rights of 1689. Key words: Sir William

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-29 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/28/2014 4:14 PM, salyavin808 wrote: Didn't have to wait no month: And Dicky wasn't around to shoot them before they shot each other! More guns needed obviously. What would you do - stand by and watch and place bets? On the afternoon of 22 May 2013, a British Army soldier, Drummer

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-29 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/28/2014 1:53 PM, salyavin808 wrote: Given that there are mass killings virtually every week in America, not to mention a high murder rate anyway, are you sure that the balance of value is a good one? Given all factors is there a causal relation between gun owners and murder rates?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-29 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 12:22 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again An actual quote from the real world: your dead kids don’t trump my Constitutional rights -- Joe The Plumber, in open letter to the shooting victims' families http

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2014-05-29 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
they laugh, because they get it completely. From: j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 12:22 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again An actual quote from the real world: your

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2014-05-28 Thread j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
An actual quote from the real world: your dead kids don’t trump my Constitutional rights -- Joe The Plumber, in open letter to the shooting victims' families http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/27/joe-the-plumber-guns_n_5397981.html

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2014-05-28 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
: j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 12:22 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again   An actual quote from the real world: your dead kids don’t trump my Constitutional rights

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2014-05-28 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
: j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 12:22 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again   An actual quote from the real world: your dead kids don’t trump my Constitutional rights

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2014-05-28 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
they get it completely. From: j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 12:22 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again   An actual quote from the real world: your dead kids don’t

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2014-05-28 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : An actual quote from the real world: your dead kids don’t trump my Constitutional rights -- Joe The Plumber, in open letter to the shooting victims' families Joe The Plumber: 'Your Dead Kids Don't Trump My

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2014-05-28 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
So, you didn't leave the US because of gun violence but justify your leaving after *reading* about it later? Still, good enough for me. However, we do live in a constitutional rebublic, not a democracy and we have a right to bare arms for various reasons, one is for our own protection. Take

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2014-05-28 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/28/2014 7:34 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Perfect. All of this stuff sure makes it easier meeting new people in Europe and hearing, You're American? Why did you choose to live here? I just look at them and say, DUH! Nine out of ten times they laugh,

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2014-05-28 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Mike, are you saying that if Ann Frank's father had had a gun, then she and her family would not have been taken by the Nazis?! My point is that owning a gun might protect a person from a criminal. But it will not protect a person or family from a criminally minded, and probably mentally ill,

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2014-05-28 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/28/2014 8:32 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Barry, I got to hand it to you. When people say America, love it or leave it, you did and I appreciate that! I hope I'm not compelled to do the same some day. It was my call, and I certainly don't regret it. It

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2014-05-28 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : So, you didn't leave the US because of gun violence but justify your leaving after *reading* about it later? Still, good enough for me. However, we do live in a constitutional rebublic, not a democracy and we have a right to bare

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2014-05-28 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/28/2014 8:39 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: It takes away an essential aspect of their humanity and they become dangers to everyone including themselves. Something bad happened in the U.S., so take away everyone's constitutional rights - it's their fault? The best

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2014-05-28 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
 Share, that's a straw-man argument. One man or family against an oppressive government definitely wouldn't be a fair fight. But let there be an armed society and it will be less likely a oppressive government could ever take hold. I may be wrong but I doubt many Jews owned guns for any reason

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2014-05-28 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Barry and Share  On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 8:01 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:   ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : So, you didn't leave the US because of gun violence but justify your leaving after

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2014-05-28 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 5/28/2014 8:39 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: It takes away an essential aspect of their humanity and they become dangers to everyone including themselves. Something bad happened in

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2014-05-28 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/28/2014 9:39 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I bet there were a lot of Jews, Gypsies, Gays, other level headed Europeans during the 1930's and 40's that wish they had guns for their own protection. Disarm a society and the Hitlers and Stalins that come,

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2014-05-28 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 5/28/2014 8:39 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: It takes away an essential aspect of their humanity and they become dangers to everyone including themselves. Something bad happened in

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2014-05-28 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : So, you didn't leave the US because of gun violence but justify your leaving after *reading* about it later? Still, good enough for me. However,

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2014-05-28 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
But., but but you left out the transgenders!  On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 8:36 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:   On 5/28/2014 9:39 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I bet there were a lot

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2014-05-28 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
As cruel and heartless as that one sentence sounds, in the context of the whole letter, he has a point: http://barbwire.com/2014/05/27/open-letter-parents-victims-murdered-elliot-rodger/ http://barbwire.com/2014/05/27/open-letter-parents-victims-murdered-elliot-rodger/ Whether you agree

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2014-05-28 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Mike, an armed society still wouldn't be able to defend against a government. Unless that armed society was organized into a militia. Isn't that against the law in the US? As for guns in Israeli households, couldn't that come from the fact that military service is required in Israel? On

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2014-05-28 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
On 05/28/2014 06:32 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: *From:* Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Barry, I got to hand it to you. When people say America, love it or leave it, you did and I appreciate that! I hope I'm not

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2014-05-28 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/28/2014 10:40 AM, salyavin808 wrote: Something bad happened in the U.S., so take away everyone's constitutional rights - it's their fault? The best way to stop a violent shooter is to shoot them first. I agree, shoot everyone who owns a gun. By definition they are

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2014-05-28 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
] Re: The Onion nails it again   ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : An actual quote from the real world: your dead kids don’t trump my Constitutional rights  -- Joe The Plumber, in open letter to the shooting victims' families Joe The Plumber: 'Your Dead

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2014-05-28 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
If you look at the order of Amendments to to Constitution, the first was for free speech and the second was to back up that right. As I've said before we have no idea of where the US would be today if it wasn't for the 2nd backing up the 1st. Probably would have had a history just like

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2014-05-28 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/28/2014 10:40 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: the average gun owner in America owns 7.9 guns. This is just an estimate because in the U.S. there is no /national firearms registry/. According to the Geneva-based Small Arms Survey -- the leading source of

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2014-05-28 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/28/2014 10:48 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: But., but but you left out the transgenders! Let me re-word that, Mike: First, they take away your civil rights; then they come for your guns; then they come for the Jews and the Christians, and then they come

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2014-05-28 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com On 05/28/2014 06:32 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:   From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com   Barry, I got to hand it to you.

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2014-05-28 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Bhairitu, do you think there should be any restrictions on gun ownership? On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 11:17 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:   If you look at the order of Amendments to to Constitution, the first was for free speech

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2014-05-28 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Richard, what or who do you think the Swiss are worried about? On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 11:18 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:   On 5/28/2014 10:40 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: the

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