[FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer...

2010-06-09 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: And with whom and where did you study percussion, Nabby? I have never even mean near a drum but I have ears. Saw Trilok with John McLaughlin at Yoshi's in Berkeley in the 1990s. Great player and very innovative.

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2010-06-09 Thread ditzyklanmail
Hell no! I was just checking the empathy level and pattern. From: Joe geezerfr...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 8 June, 2010 11:46:20 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer... Can do. You? --- In FairfieldLife

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2010-06-09 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 12:48 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife

[FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer...

2010-06-09 Thread Joe
We are, of course aware of each others' backround in TM. But it isn't something he relates to much these days. He does does follow the teachings of someone near him in Monetcito, CA where he lives. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer...

2010-06-09 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote: We are, of course aware of each others' backround in TM. But it isn't something he relates to much these days. He does does follow the teachings of someone near him in Monetcito, CA where he lives. Why follow the teaching

[FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer...

2010-06-08 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote: Well sure, Buddy Rich. Miles Davis called Buddy Rich and Tony Williams the two greatest jazz drummers to ever live. But he pointed out how many Buddy Riches' you got? One. The interviewer had brought up Buddy to counter

[FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer...

2010-06-08 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote: Well sure, Buddy Rich. Apart from amazing technical skill, I don't appreciate Buddy's drumming that much. For my tastes, it's too intellectual or academic, or stuff. Miles Davis called Buddy Rich and Tony Williams the two

[FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer...

2010-06-08 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote: Were those clips supposed to be impressive in some way? They weren't. My wild guess is he meant those as examples of kaliyuga of drumming. But I might well be wrong... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ditzyklanmail

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2010-06-08 Thread ditzyklanmail
: [FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote: Were those clips supposed to be impressive in some way? They weren't. My wild guess is he meant those as examples of kaliyuga of drumming. But I might well be wrong... --- In FairfieldLife

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2010-06-08 Thread ditzyklanmail
Live sound captured on small video cameras. From: Joe geezerfr...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, 7 June, 2010 10:37:55 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer... Were those clips supposed to be impressive in some way

[FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer...

2010-06-08 Thread Joe
Thanks! Great thread to follow off of the Huff post. There's a great clip from Miles' great 1969 band (Chick Corea, Dave Holland, Jack DeJohnette, Wayne Shorter) performing in Copenhagen that year. The actual brew sounds a little syrupy for my taste. I go for the Belgian Trappist Monk Triples

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2010-06-08 Thread Bhairitu
That's what show drumming is supposed to be. He *is* a bit over the top but this seems to be more a comedy act anyway. Booking agents and club owners were never satisfied with musicians just sitting on stage and playing a tune so they would often demand more show. For all we know this guy

[FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer...

2010-06-08 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_re...@... wrote: ...must be a siddha?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItZyaOlrb7Efeature=player_embedded It looks like he's practised his tricks and by God he's going to use 'em!

[FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer...

2010-06-08 Thread Joe
It's actually pretty amazing that he can keep time doing all of those contortions. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: That's what show drumming is supposed to be. He *is* a bit over the top but this seems to be more a comedy act anyway. Booking agents and

[FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer...

2010-06-08 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote: It's actually pretty amazing that he can keep time doing all of those contortions. Oh yeah! IMO, he keeps time even slightly better than Frank himself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_EFdod4YDo --- In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer...

2010-06-08 Thread Bhairitu
There are two kinds of drummers. The captain of the rhythm section kind who are like metronomes and compers who go with the flow of time from the other musicians. Some musician's time is so lousy they rely on the drummer to keep it. If they hire a comper they will be all over him all night

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer...

2010-06-08 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bhairitu Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 2:42 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer... Beatles. It's hard to tell from the recordings because you don't know what

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2010-06-08 Thread ditzyklanmail
The two kinds of drummers are one. Both. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 8 June, 2010 2:41:33 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer... There are two kinds of drummers. The captain

[FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer...

2010-06-08 Thread Joe
Graham Nash sang all the high voices for the Beatles. Where on earth did you come up with this fantasy? Which tunes, which albums and what is your proof? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: There are two kinds of drummers. The captain of the rhythm section

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2010-06-08 Thread Bhairitu
Rick Archer wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bhairitu Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 2:42 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer... Beatles. It's hard to tell from the recordings

[FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer...

2010-06-08 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: There are two kinds of drummers. The captain of the rhythm section kind who are like metronomes and compers who go with the flow of time from the other musicians. Some musician's time is so lousy they rely on the

[FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer...

2010-06-08 Thread Joe
. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: Rick Archer wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bhairitu Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 2:42 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer

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2010-06-08 Thread Bhairitu
@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer... Beatles. It's hard to tell from the recordings because you don't know what ones he actually played on and which ones Alan White played on. Looks like White didn't come on the scene until after the Beatles had broken up, or close

[FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer...

2010-06-08 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: The sets they came out with were what I suggested as I suspect many other drummers suggested too. Enough words, now listen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKYGa8A9Fogfeature=related

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer...

2010-06-08 Thread Bhairitu
And with whom and where did you study percussion, Nabby? Saw Trilok with John McLaughlin at Yoshi's in Berkeley in the 1990s. Great player and very innovative. nablusoss1008 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: The sets they came out with were what I

[FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer...

2010-06-08 Thread Joe
...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bhairitu Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 2:42 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer... Beatles. It's hard to tell from the recordings because you don't know what ones he actually played on and which ones Alan

[FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer...

2010-06-08 Thread Joe
Zakir and Trilok are amazing. I've done some work on Charles Lloyds albums for ECM (Water is Wide, Hyperion for Higgins and Jumpin' The Creek). He always surrounds himself with superb, world class musicians. Great clip of Charles with Zakir and Harland Nabby. Thanks! --- In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer...

2010-06-08 Thread ditzyklanmail
From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 8 June, 2010 4:39:49 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: There are two kinds

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2010-06-08 Thread Bhairitu
Joe wrote: OK, in the 60s you played in a rock group that opened for the Springfield. You visited Heiders one day when CSN were recording. We could trade studio stories all day long(I once made a jazz album at OceanWay Recording in LA in Studio 2 while the Stones were in Studio 1 making

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer...

2010-06-08 Thread Rick Archer
What was your band's name? From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bhairitu Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 5:15 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer... FYI, Joe in the 1960s I played in a rock group

[FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer...

2010-06-08 Thread Joe
The so is that you made a blanket statement that Graham Nash sang ALL the high voices for the Beatles. That's what you said. This has nothing to do with what you or I do (or in your case did) in the music business. I'm not trying to diminish what you did at all. How you come up with that is

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer...

2010-06-08 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 9:20 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer... Does Ringo wish that Andy White didn't play drums on a version of Love Me Do? Sure he

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2010-06-08 Thread Bhairitu
I'll correct one thing, I shouldn't have said all but some instead. I'm not lying. But you'll never know because you weren't there. It was your tone that came off like some of the arrogant folks I've met in the recording industry. The I'm a pro and you don't know what you're talking about

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer...

2010-06-08 Thread Bhairitu
Rick Archer wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 9:20 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer... Does Ringo wish that Andy White didn't play drums on a version

[FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer...

2010-06-08 Thread Joe
...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 9:20 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer... Does Ringo wish that Andy White didn't play drums on a version of Love Me Do? Sure he does, but there's nothing he can do about it because it's

[FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer...

2010-06-08 Thread Joe
Hmmm. Now that you put it that way I'd have to say that I'm a pro and you don't know what you're talking about. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: I'll correct one thing, I shouldn't have said all but some instead. I'm not lying. But you'll never know because

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2010-06-08 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 9:56 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer... I agree with you about Ringo's drumming. Over the years I've done several sessions

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2010-06-08 Thread Bhairitu
A pro at what? Being a pest? :-D Joe wrote: Hmmm. Now that you put it that way I'd have to say that I'm a pro and you don't know what you're talking about. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: I'll correct one thing, I shouldn't have said all but some

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2010-06-08 Thread ditzyklanmail
blah blah blah. could you play a blast beat? anything more than a one two three or four, beat? From: Joe geezerfr...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 8 June, 2010 9:56:18 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer... Andy

[FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer...

2010-06-08 Thread Joe
Sent: Tue, 8 June, 2010 9:56:18 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer... Andy White was hired by George Martin to play drums on the Beatles first singles session, Love Me Do. From Wiki: Andrew Andy White (born 1930) is a Scottish drummer, best known for replacing Ringo Starr

[FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer...

2010-06-08 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote: Hmmm. Now that you put it that way I'd have to say that I'm a pro and you don't know what you're talking about. Joe, to me this whole exchange personifies the joke that my youngest brother, a drummer for a Southern rock band,

[FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer...

2010-06-08 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote: Zakir and Trilok are amazing. I've done some work on Charles Lloyds albums for ECM (Water is Wide, Hyperion for Higgins and Jumpin' The Creek). He always surrounds himself with superb, world class musicians. Very nice.

[FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer...

2010-06-07 Thread Joe
Kundalini Drumming! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_re...@... wrote: ...must be a siddha?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItZyaOlrb7Efeature=player_embedded

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2010-06-07 Thread Bhairitu
Called (to say the least) show drumming and reminds me of the Mickey Sheen school of show drumming that one of my teachers who studied with him taught. I used to do that kind of stuff on a TV show and would freak the floor manager out because she was afraid I would go out of camera range. ;-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer...

2010-06-07 Thread Joe
I showed this clip to the great jazz drummer Jeff Hamilton on Sunday. He laughed and said looks like Sonny Payne on steroids! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: Called (to say the least) show drumming and reminds me of the Mickey Sheen school of show drumming

[FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer...

2010-06-07 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote: I showed this clip to the great jazz drummer Jeff Hamilton on Sunday. He laughed and said looks like Sonny Payne on steroids! Exactly, Joe. I've been hoping someone would say this. The people who are impressed with this drummer

[FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer...

2010-06-07 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote: I showed this clip to the great jazz drummer Jeff Hamilton on Sunday. He laughed and said looks like Sonny Payne on steroids! Well, if drumming is all about superfast flam-paradiddle-triplet rolls, this must be way better

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2010-06-07 Thread ditzyklanmail
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWJIUmD3de4 From: TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, 7 June, 2010 4:21:24 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr

[FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer...

2010-06-07 Thread Joe
Well sure, Buddy Rich. Miles Davis called Buddy Rich and Tony Williams the two greatest jazz drummers to ever live. But he pointed out how many Buddy Riches' you got? One. The interviewer had brought up Buddy to counter Miles' assertion that the best jazz drummers were black. --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer...

2010-06-07 Thread Joe
From: TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, 7 June, 2010 4:21:24 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfreak@ wrote: I showed this clip to the great jazz

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2010-06-07 Thread ditzyklanmail
=A277F6ACA077C1ECplaynext_from=PLplaynext=1index=9 From: Joe geezerfr...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, 7 June, 2010 8:46:30 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer... Tons of high (volume) level chopsbut where's the taste? Jo Jones, Philly Joe

[FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer...

2010-06-07 Thread Joe
June, 2010 8:46:30 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer... Tons of high (volume) level chopsbut where's the taste? Jo Jones, Philly Joe Jones, Elvin Jones, Jack DeJohnette, Tony, Mel Lewis, Paul Motiannow we're talkin! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

[FairfieldLife] Re: This drummer...

2010-06-07 Thread raunchydog
What a hoot! He should spend less energy making a show of drumming and actually hit the drum. All hat and no cattle. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: Called (to say the least) show drumming and reminds me of the Mickey Sheen school of show drumming that one

[FairfieldLife] Re: Metallica's drummer slightly sucks?

2009-06-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: Vaj wrote: On Jun 21, 2009, at 6:07 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote: Now that communism is gone the next to go is capitalism - Maharishi, 1989 Now that Maharishi is gone, the next to go is Vedic Fascism. -Vaj, 2009

[FairfieldLife] Re: Metallica's drummer slightly sucks?

2009-06-21 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: Does Metallica play music? Four lads from Sibelius Academy, Helsinki, Finland play Metallica: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXEpP21soXYfeature=related

[FairfieldLife] Re: Metallica's drummer slightly sucks?

2009-06-21 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: Does Metallica play music? No, it's not music. Usually american musiscians simply scream. Their lives are rough and is getting rougher by the day since their beloved capitalism is being extinquished by mother nature. They

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Metallica's drummer slightly sucks?

2009-06-21 Thread Vaj
On Jun 21, 2009, at 6:07 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: Does Metallica play music? No, it's not music. Usually american musiscians simply scream. Their lives are rough and is getting rougher by the day since their beloved

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Metallica's drummer slightly sucks?

2009-06-21 Thread Bhairitu
Vaj wrote: On Jun 21, 2009, at 6:07 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: Does Metallica play music? No, it's not music. Usually american musiscians simply scream. Their lives are rough and is getting rougher by the day since their

[FairfieldLife] Re: Metallica's drummer slightly sucks?

2009-06-21 Thread seekliberation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: Vaj wrote: On Jun 21, 2009, at 6:07 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Does Metallica play music? No, it's not music. Usually american musiscians simply