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Barry is probably feeling a little left out these days, since Judy
isn't around to respond to his cafe raps. Knowing, Barry - that
really upsets him - he hates to be ignored but he won't admit it.
You'll have to
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When examined
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When examined for what it is, so called mindfulness, is not a mechanism for
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :
Barry is probably feeling a little left out these days, since Judy isn't
around to respond to his cafe raps. Knowing, Barry - that really upsets him -
he hates to be ignored but he won't admit it.
You'll have to step in to try and
From: anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
I haven't disowned anyone on this forum. I just have not had much time to
respond and sometimes the subject at hand does not interest me for the moment.
Most of what Barry writes is not for this forum so I doubt very
On 7/7/2014 2:36 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
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I haven't disowned anyone on this forum. I just have not had much
time to respond and sometimes the subject at hand does not
Thank You Barry!!! It has been a much more pleasant place here, since you have
self-selected out. Again, thank you, thank you, thank you! My sense of relief
is palpable. Subjects now get discussed to some depth, without your boorish and
illogical interruptions. No one casts insults about just
: [FairfieldLife] Re: YAS: Meditating has instant effect on reducing
stress
Mindfulness assumes that 'reality' is ever present at all levels rather than
something you have to hunt for or contact. In other words, it is based on the
end game of enlightenment. I believe Jim mentioned this was a cart
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Mindfulness assumes that 'reality' is ever present at all levels rather than
something you have to hunt
: Meditating has instant effect on reducing
stress
When examined for what it is, so called mindfulness, is not a mechanism for
reliable transcendence, at all - more like meandering around on the surface of
the mind. Something that clearly evolved, as a poor second best, after the
knowledge of TM
of
meditations.
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. And that is just one of the many
other types of meditations.
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Stress is the ultimate anti-spiritual thing. In fact, I would argue that it is
the ONLY anti-spiritual thing.
Yoga is the subsidence of mind fluctuations.
and mind-flutuations are brought about by past experience that interferes with
our ability to deal with the present moment -that is,
Lawson, I think Maharishi once defined stress as any chemical or structural
abnormality in the system. As such I think of it as non wholeness rather than
anti spiritual.
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Stress is
of meditations.
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When
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When examined for what
Maharishi once defined spiritual growth as balanced, that is, wholisitic
growth simultaneously for mental, physical and emotional well-being.
In other words, non-wholeness = anti-spiritual.
L
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Lawson, I think Maharishi
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the mind. Something that clearly evolved
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When examined for what it is, so called mindfulness, is not a mechanism
: Meditating has instant effect on
reducing stress
When examined for what it is, so called mindfulness, is not a mechanism for
reliable transcendence, at all - more like meandering around on the surface of
the mind. Something that clearly evolved, as a poor second best, after the
knowledge
All the Advaita experts contend that awareness is primal and consciousness is
relative.
I agree.
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When examined for what it is, so called mindfulness
On 7/6/2014 5:01 PM, Duveyoung wrote:
All the Advaita experts contend that awareness is primal and
consciousness is relative.
I agree.
All the Advaita masters agree that awareness is one pure consciousness,
not two.
Work cited:
/'Consciousness Speaks'/
Conversations with Ramesh S.
: [FairfieldLife] Re: YAS: Meditating has instant effect on
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When examined for what it is, so called mindfulness, is not a mechanism for
reliable transcendence, at all - more like meandering around on the surface of
the mind. Something that clearly evolved, as a poor second best, after
of meditations.
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When examined for what
Norman Rosenthal led a study on TM and PTSD that found that in 2 of the 5
subjects, brain imaging showed that the abnormally active amygdala had reset
after teh first meditation, and stayed that way for the rest of the study.
People are desperate to find that mindfulness works, so they
From: lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Norman Rosenthal led a study on TM and PTSD that found that in 2 of the 5
subjects, brain imaging showed that the abnormally active amygdala had reset
after teh first meditation, and stayed that way for the rest of the
No one is any more desperate to prove TM as the best technique, than you are,
to prove it isn't. I've gotten four people to start TM, who have now been doing
it for years. None of them would've even asked about other techniques, as none
of them shopped at the spiritual supermarket, as some here
: [FairfieldLife] Re: YAS: Meditating has instant effect on reducing
stress
No one is any more desperate to prove TM as the best technique, than you are,
to prove it isn't. I've gotten four people to start TM, who have now been doing
it for years. None of them would've even asked about other
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Norman Rosenthal led a study on TM and PTSD that found that in 2 of the 5
subjects, brain imaging showed
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Anything other than TM is a waste of time.
At best, a very short sighted state of mind.
What an egocentric and petty state of mind.
My point is that such a statement would almost *never* come from the
On 7/5/2014 5:40 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
No one is any more desperate to prove TM as the best technique, than
you are, to prove it isn't.
The question is, why is Barry so desperate to prove that TM isn't the
most effective meditation technique for most
.
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No one is any more
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Norman Rosenthal led a study on TM and PTSD that found that in 2 of
the 5 subjects
Hey Michael, I must not be following exactly what is going on with these
studies. But, let me say that your ability to make a negtive interpretation of
any study or event with regards to TM and the TMO is well documented.
Jim saying Anything other than TM is a waste of time, is just his
*From:* lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
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Norman Rosenthal led a study on TM and PTSD that found that in 2 of
the 5 subjects, brain imaging showed that the abnormally active
amygdala had reset after teh first meditation, and stayed that way for
the rest of the
On 7/5/2014 7:16 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Hey Michael, I must not be following exactly what is going on with
these studies. But, let me say that your ability to make a negtive
interpretation of any study or event with regards to TM and the TMO is
well documented.
I have been doing TM for 38+ years, daily. In my opinion, the rest of what is
fobbed off as meditation, is just about useless. I accept your disagreement,
and you can live however you like, obviously. However, having practiced TM at
least a quarter of a century longer than you have, I will
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Anything other than TM is a waste of time.
At best, a very short sighted state of mind.
What an egocentric and petty state of
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
I would think that after a few decades of this, TMers would catch a
clue as to how badly they are embarrassing themselves by waving their
we're the best dicks around the way they do. But it never seems to
happen.
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I have been doing TM for 38+ years, daily. In my opinion
Bingo !
And to this day not a single scientific research on other forms of meditations
shows anything coming even close. Maharishi was right, yet again. He did say
however that the techniques of Yogananda were the best until TM came along but
was meant for a recluse lifestyle. Would be
Eh, while the study in question by Rosenthal and company was tiny and had no
control group, it was still a quite impressive finding.
My point isn't so much that mindfulness doesn't have an effect on PTSD, but
that the media hypes it as being very strong, while ignoring the evidence that
TM's
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I would think that after a few decades of this, TMers would catch a clue as to
how badly they are
has instant effect on
reducing stress
I have been doing TM for 38+ years, daily. In my opinion, the rest of what
is fobbed off as meditation, is just about useless. I accept your disagreement,
and you can live however you like, obviously. However, having practiced TM at
least a quarter
Yep. TM is the only technique for an active life-style -- no copy-catting the
recluse life, at all. It gets me out of my own way, like nothing else, for full
steam ahead, always. Though he is an odious individual, I am a big fan of the
Woody Allen quote: I don't mellow, I rot. I am down to 4 to
Somehow all this research stuff seems like comparing apples and goats, because
the parameters measured in meditation are not correlated with spiritual goals.
Based on my reading, etc., I would say that the spiritual goals as defined by a
number of different schools of spiritual development (TM,
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I have been doing TM for 38+ years, daily. In my opinion, the rest of what
is fobbed off as meditation, is just about useless. I accept
When examined for what it is, so called mindfulness, is not a mechanism for
reliable transcendence, at all - more like meandering around on the surface of
the mind. Something that clearly evolved, as a poor second best, after the
knowledge of TM was lost. Those championing it have had very few,
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