There is a presumption in TM that one needs a mantra in order to meditate, that
a word (meaningless or otherwise) is needed to be repeated in order to adjust
the mind towards transcending. I propose that the mantra is not only not
necessary, but that its function is other than its stated
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand premanandp...@... wrote:
There is a presumption in TM that one needs a mantra in order
to meditate, that a word (meaningless or otherwise) is needed
to be repeated in order to adjust the mind towards transcending.
I propose that the mantra is
patanjali is the creator of the real siddhi program, patanjali golden dome, not
maharishi golden dome... krishna is the creator of transcendental meditation,
the song of god-gita not the song of maharishi. maharishi is the middle man and
as it is known among the wise to get the real deal you
patanjai wrote the sutras read them, they explain the whole universe where it
all comes from and goes, easy concise- to the point practical and of course
beyond the average human being. why -cause it feels to good to give up being
ignorant. the perks, being more right than others, knowing they
On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:41 AM, nadarrombus wrote:
patanjali is the creator of the real siddhi program, patanjali golden dome,
not maharishi golden dome... krishna is the creator of transcendental
meditation, the song of god-gita not the song of maharishi. maharishi is the
middle man and as
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand premanandp...@... wrote:
There is a presumption in TM that one needs a mantra in order
to meditate, that a word (meaningless or otherwise) is needed
to be repeated in order to adjust the mind towards transcending.
I propose that the mantra is
On Feb 14, 2010, at 10:25 PM, WillyTex wrote:
Patanjali doesn't say anything about the
'bija mantras' used in TM, and where the
bija mantras come from...
nadarrombus:
patanjali states the bija om is the mantra
which is used...
Patanjali mentions the 'pranava', but does
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand premanandp...@... wrote:
Patanjali doesn't say anything about the 'bija mantras' used in TM, and
where the bija mantras come from.
It appears that the prime use of a bija mantra is to invoke a particular
'god' or 'goddess'. In fact it is
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote:
Patanjali doesn't say anything about the
'bija mantras' used in TM, and where the
bija mantras come from...
nadarrombus:
patanjali states the bija om is the mantra
which is used...
Patanjali mentions
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
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I *did* my thing. I stated my opinion. If someone
has a different opinion, they are more than entitled
to express it. If they can do so without ad hominem
and without an obvious attempt to provoke an argument,
more
TM is a much more passive process, but simpler for most people. Concentration,
once mastered, is more controllable using the WILL..
'Simpler'? I'm not so sure about that. TM relies on the fairly finely balanced
use of mantra repetition, which masquerades as simple but is actually
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand premanandp...@... wrote:
TM is a much more passive process, but simpler for most people.
Concentration, once mastered, is more controllable using the WILL..
'Simpler'? I'm not so sure about that. TM relies on the fairly finely
balanced
Is it not possible for you to mix and match the strengths of the various
techniques, e.g. take it easy whilst using willpower, letting go of discursive
thought gradually, gently?
If and when meditation is taught outside of a religious context, without the
use of a puja or magic prayers, I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand premanandp...@... wrote:
Is it not possible for you to mix and match the strengths of the various
techniques, e.g. take it easy whilst using willpower, letting go of
discursive thought gradually, gently?
They are two distinct different
Patanjali mentions the 'pranava', but does not
state that it is 'om'. AUM is not, strictly
speaking, a 'bija' mantra. AUM isn't mentioned
in the Yoga Sutras nor in the Rig Veda.
Vaj:
According to bija-mantra dictionaries, AUM is a
bija mantra.
You don't get 'bija' mantras from a
nadarrombus:
patanjali is the creator of the real siddhi
program, patanjali golden dome, not maharishi
golden dome...
FYI:
The 'Patanjali' Golden Dome of Pure Knowledge is
located in Fairfield, Iowa, USA.
The 'Maharishi' Golden Dome of Pure Knowledge is
located in Austin, Texas, USA.
nadarrombus:
you don't seem to have decent critical thinking
skills, reading skills or the desire to understand
truth...
Vaj:
That's our Little Willy.
So, Vaj, you don't have all the answers. LOL!
Yoga citta vritti nirodha. (Yoga is the cessation of
the mental turnings of the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand premanandp...@... wrote:
Is it not possible for you to mix and match the strengths of the various
techniques, e.g. take it easy whilst using willpower, letting go of
discursive thought gradually, gently?
Several have tried this, most ending
On Feb 15, 2010, at 1:57 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand premanandp...@... wrote:
Is it not possible for you to mix and match the strengths of the various
techniques, e.g. take it easy whilst using willpower, letting go of
discursive
I agree Vaj. But if one is too achievement-orientated then the process can be
strained and cause headache. However, in my experience, if one is easy-going
about the whole business, and accepts that sometimes one will be more in tune
with the process than others, then great depths of silence can
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand premanandp...@... wrote:
I agree Vaj. But if one is too achievement-orientated then the process can be
strained and cause headache. However, in my experience, if one is easy-going
about the whole business, and accepts that sometimes one will
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand premanandp...@... wrote:
TM is a much more passive process, but simpler for most
people. Concentration, once mastered, is more controllable
using the WILL..
'Simpler'? I'm not so sure about that. TM relies on the
fairly finely balanced
On Feb 15, 2010, at 2:11 PM, Premanand wrote:
I agree Vaj. But if one is too achievement-orientated then the process can be
strained and cause headache. However, in my experience, if one is easy-going
about the whole business, and accepts that sometimes one will be more in tune
with the
nadarrombus:
patanjali yoga sutras answer all questions on siddhi
program...
There are some question that are not answered in
Patanjalis' Yoga Sutra. For example, Patanjali
doesn't say anything about the 'bija mantras' used
in TM, and where the bija mantras come from.
maharishi didn't
Patanjali doesn't say anything about the 'bija mantras' used in TM, and where
the bija mantras come from.
It appears that the prime use of a bija mantra is to invoke a particular 'god'
or 'goddess'. In fact it is said that Guru Dev would not give out a mantra
without knowing of the devotee's
patanjali states the bija om is the mantra which is used, maharishi contradicts
this - om is dangerous to him but patanjali and the whole veda claim it is
wonderful. patanlali gave answers maharishi tinkered for profit. om, it is king
of bija's specifically for enlightenment-for liberation.
Patanjali doesn't say anything about the
'bija mantras' used in TM, and where the
bija mantras come from...
nadarrombus:
patanjali states the bija om is the mantra
which is used...
Patanjali mentions the 'pranava', but does not
state that it is 'om'. AUM is not, stictly
speaking, a
Patanjali doesn't say anything about the
'bija mantras' used in TM, and where the
bija mantras come from.
Premanand:
It appears that the prime use of a bija
mantra is to invoke a particular 'god' or
'goddess'...
According to Swami Sivananda Radha, the oldest
and most enduring
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