Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield

2010-06-06 Thread ditzyklanmail
The young person just so happened to have a follow-up appointment with a Dr. who was listed in one of John Gray's books. Coincidence. A friend told me about amino acids mentioned in the book. I shared this information with the young person to share with the Dr. The doctor still wanted to keep th

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield

2010-06-06 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Dear, No one touted me as anything on the batgap list, it was me who declared that to the list - if at all they were listening to my experiences and sharing their experiences, opinions and cautioning me on the pitfalls - so this is a completely false conclusion. And again I have just heard about D

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield

2010-06-05 Thread Bhairitu
authfriend wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > >> They actually have little idea how these work but have some >> "effect" mainly on raising the bottom line for pharmaceutical >> companies. Lithium was brought up here >> > > Bad example. Lithium is a natural

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield

2010-06-05 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote: > These drugs are powerful psychotropics. They replace > or supplement the endorphins that allow us to feel > good -- about ourselves, about life, about everything. > But as far as I can tell from my limited reading, > the body is lazy, and when these endorphins are > supplied ar

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield

2010-06-04 Thread ditzyklanmail
Yes, it was life threatening. ...and maybe still is. The hospital let the young person out this week. The hospital weaned the person from klonopin over a week's time which I hear is not long enough time. Then the hospital put the person on new anti-depressants because of the symptoms of withd

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield

2010-06-03 Thread ditzyklanmail
>From close experience these past few months and this past week, a very good >friend of the family was on Zanax went cold turkey and got seizures so the doc >put the friend on klonopin and a few suicide attempts were had by a young >person in their early 20's. Never before suicidal. The friend s

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield

2010-06-02 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sal Sunshine Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 10:45 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield On Jun 2, 2010, at 10:36 AM, Rick Archer wrote: > The r

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield

2010-06-02 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jun 2, 2010, at 10:36 AM, Rick Archer wrote: > The reason I booted Ravi from BatGap is that there are different ground rules > there than here. Almost anything is tolerated here. It's like a boxing match > as opposed to a tea party. I expect more cordial behavior over there, and if > someone

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield

2010-06-02 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of authfriend Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 9:21 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield Oh, and BTW... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield

2010-06-01 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of It's just a ride Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 7:24 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield I always wondered why everyone took Charlie Lutes so

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield

2010-06-01 Thread It's just a ride
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Rick Archer wrote: > > > *From:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto: > fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Buck > *Sent:* Monday, May 31, 2010 10:51 PM > > *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield > > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield

2010-06-01 Thread Vaj
On May 30, 2010, at 2:40 PM, It's just a ride wrote: > On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Vaj wrote: > > > > IME the "dark night" is widely valued and promoted by this (and other FF) > groups. However it was never clear if the people who had 'passed thru their > dark night of the soul' (and

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield

2010-06-01 Thread David Hawthorne
Test (posting) From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick Archer Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 9:11 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield

2010-06-01 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Buck Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 10:51 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield Different story. A friend here re-tells hearing Charlie Lutes getting a phone call f

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield

2010-05-31 Thread Sal Sunshine
On May 31, 2010, at 3:45 PM, seventhray1 wrote: > Can you provide a link? http://bit.ly/bdB1Ym > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: >> >> On May 31, 2010, at 9:12 AM, seventhray1 wrote: >> >>> Pretty much the only perspective you're getting from BATGAP is that a >>> gre

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield

2010-05-31 Thread Sal Sunshine
On May 31, 2010, at 9:12 AM, seventhray1 wrote: > Pretty much the only perspective you're getting from BATGAP is that a > great luminary has left the scene. And that "if only I knew" . And > yet evidently he did talk to others about his problems. But of course, > I don't think it is easy for a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield

2010-05-31 Thread Vaj
On May 31, 2010, at 1:00 PM, Duveyoung wrote: > Lack of ego (i.e. disppearance of the individual) seems to come as a natural > result on getting clear about the relationship between onself and the > infinite. > Witnessing seems to be an initial stage of that, which blossoms into the whole > pict

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield

2010-05-31 Thread Bhairitu
Buck wrote: > Actually, does anybody remember what Charlie Lutes said about suicide? > His stories. I seem to remember Charlie talking about how suicide is looked upon as a bad thing in Indian philosophy but if suffering from cancer he could see why a person my want a way out. In Indian philoso

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield

2010-05-31 Thread Vaj
On May 30, 2010, at 9:22 PM, seventhray1 wrote: > > Sal Sunshine wrote: > > And also along these lines, I found this link on Rick's > > chat group: > > > > http://rorygoff.com/open/the-observatory/dan-swartz/ > > Thanks for posting this. This was helpful is seeing who he was, hearing him >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield

2010-05-30 Thread Sal Sunshine
On May 30, 2010, at 10:44 PM, Rick Archer wrote: > What is Acedia, and how did it end up in the title of this thread? I was wondering the same thing. "Acedia (also accidie or accedie, from Latin acidĭa, and this from Greek ἀκηδία, negligence) describes a state of listlessness or torpor, of not

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield

2010-05-30 Thread Rick Archer
What is Acedia, and how did it end up in the title of this thread?

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield

2010-05-30 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of seventhray1 Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 10:06 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield

2010-05-30 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sal Sunshine Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 8:22 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield On May 30, 2010, at 8:12 PM, seventhray1 wrote: > Sal Sunshine

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield

2010-05-30 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sal Sunshine Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 7:27 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield And also along these lines, Rick--didn't anyone else find it

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield

2010-05-30 Thread Sal Sunshine
On May 30, 2010, at 8:12 PM, seventhray1 wrote: > Sal Sunshine >> And also along these lines, Rick--didn't anyone else >> find it a tad odd that Dan was spending much of his >> free time, between the satsang group and the Buddha >> chat group--with people much older than him? I get >> the feelin

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield

2010-05-30 Thread Sal Sunshine
On May 30, 2010, at 7:35 PM, feste37 wrote: > My only point, you silly, angry, abusive man, is that God does not smile on > self-slaughter, however prettily it may be dressed up. And you know this because...? feste, no offense, but you sound silly and desperate, like a New-Age holy-roller. Good

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield

2010-05-30 Thread Sal Sunshine
On May 30, 2010, at 7:26 PM, Sal Sunshine wrote: >> On May 30, 2010, at 5:13 PM, Rick Archer wrote: >> FW; "I knew Daniel well and have a little different take than some others. this is what my perception was knowing what was going on. Had I known the last 2 months he told s

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield

2010-05-30 Thread Sal Sunshine
On May 30, 2010, at 6:55 PM, Rick Archer wrote: > On May 30, 2010, at 5:13 PM, Rick Archer wrote: > > >> FW; > >> "I knew Daniel well and have a little different take than some others. > >> this is what my perception was knowing what was going on. Had I known the > >> last 2 months he told so m

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield

2010-05-30 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of It's just a ride Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 5:54 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 8:07 AM, Alex Stanley wrote: I t

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield

2010-05-30 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Duveyoung Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 5:39 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield Dan was special -- way wise beyond his age. Not that he was a guru one would se

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield

2010-05-30 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sal Sunshine Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 5:33 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield On May 30, 2010, at 5:13 PM, Rick Archer wrote: >> FW;

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield

2010-05-30 Thread It's just a ride
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Vaj wrote: > You mean the FF enlightened sage support group didn't help? No surprise > there! > > Vaj, you're just bitter because Thom changed the call in number to exclude you. But I so much agree with anything anyone says negative about this group and I was ne

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield

2010-05-30 Thread It's just a ride
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 8:07 AM, Alex Stanley wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > "I knew Daniel well and have a little different take than some > > > others. this is what my perception was

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield

2010-05-30 Thread Sal Sunshine
On May 30, 2010, at 5:13 PM, Rick Archer wrote: >> FW; >> "I knew Daniel well and have a little different take than some others. this >> is what my perception was knowing what was going on. Had I known the last 2 >> months he told so many people his pain was too great and he was thinking of >>

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield

2010-05-30 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of seventhray1 Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 8:10 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield I have been following a thread at Buddha at the Gas Pump, but as nothing was

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield

2010-05-30 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Buck Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 7:27 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield FW; "I knew Daniel well and have a little different take than some others. this is what

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield

2010-05-30 Thread Sal Sunshine
On May 30, 2010, at 3:35 PM, Buck wrote: > This is at least the third in 1.5 years here. >> We are failing our young people. >> >> Sal >> > > I would hope they are pulling professionals > in to the schools (MSAE & MUM) by first class after this > weekend. Dr. Pete? The public schools have lon

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield

2010-05-30 Thread It's just a ride
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Vaj wrote: > > > IME the "dark night" is widely valued and promoted by this (and other FF) > groups. However it was never clear if the people who had 'passed thru their > dark night of the soul' (and then promoted such experiences as valuable for > "enlightenment

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield

2010-05-30 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Buck Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 10:09 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , "

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield

2010-05-30 Thread ditzyklanmail
] Re: Acedia & Fairfield On May 30, 2010, at 8:26 AM, Buck wrote: > >> >> > >> > In the news, a young person of the meditating community put an end to his >> > life this last week. >> > >> > http://preview. tinyurl.com/ 34a3r

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield

2010-05-30 Thread Sal Sunshine
On May 30, 2010, at 10:32 AM, Sal Sunshine wrote: > This is at least the third in 1.5 years here. > We are failing our young people. Along those lines, Rick, did anyone in your group ever suggest, either to the group or privately to you--that Daniel might be going through something a bit more t

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield

2010-05-30 Thread Vaj
On May 30, 2010, at 11:09 AM, Buck wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" wrote: > > > > Thanks for the reply. People keep referring to his pain, saying they didn't > > realize how intense it was. I wonder what the pain is they are referring to. > > > > Some comment

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield

2010-05-30 Thread Sal Sunshine
On May 30, 2010, at 8:09 AM, seventhray1 wrote: > I have been following a thread at Buddha at the Gas Pump, but as nothing was > posted here, I didn't want to comment. I do know his parents, or at least > who they are. I did not want to register at the Fairfield Ledger, so if > someone could

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield

2010-05-30 Thread Vaj
On May 30, 2010, at 8:26 AM, Buck wrote: > > > > > > > > > > In the news, a young person of the meditating community put an end to his > > > life this last week. > > > > > > http://preview.tinyurl.com/34a3rnz > > > > > > > > > From the end of the earth I call; > > My heart is faint. > > -P