[FairfieldLife] Re: Poverty is imaginary -- the individual is cosmic
-- Right, the universe is holographic; conforming to the most uptodate hypotheses in physics. But of course, the spiritual orientation includes Shankara's superposition principle (not within the domain of experimental physics). This implies that some individuals experience (grok) that everything is sweet; but others claim that everything is rotten. Each is a true hologram within the other; but it would be incorrect for one to expouse a false Neo-Advaitic ideal: i.e. that I'm OK, therefore everybody else must be OK, even though they claim life is rotten. Thus, among those that say life is sweet; the proposition that others who say life is rotten are a. liars or b. delusional; would be incorrect. IMO: those who say life is ABSOLUTELY 100% sweet - in spite of the claims of rottenness by the diehards; are expousing a false Neo- Advaitic claim. If the universe is truly holographic, then the particles of rottenness are REALLY within the sweet people; but they are denying it. Thus, life cannot be 100%, totally sweet or 100% totally rotten. It's somewhere in-between. n FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: Do you mean that he sucked some into totally identifying with the TMO (and many part way), and then made the TMO so weird that sanity can only be maintained by transcending or total detachment from the outer false identities with the TMO? Or do you mean that we transcend the worldly boundaries of the TMO, and see it as part of Rory, I mean Ourselves, and thus we take ownership in the a fact that we are that snake of weirdness -- that is actually we are the rope of bliss? Or do you mean that MMY is a self-referral part of Ourselves, the act of making weirdness is a part of Ourselves, the weirdness itself is part of Ourdelves, and our renunciation of the wieirdness is part of Ourselves? or do you mean: DOH! Yep!:-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: the Grim Helsinki Night
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://movies2.nytimes.com/2007/06/13/movies/13dusk.html I'm not that much into movies. For instance, been *trying* to watch Citizen Kane through a couple of times, without success. :) Oddly enough, some of Aki's films I've seen several times. He's my absolute favourite amongst film makers. But I'm afraid many of you guys couldn't stand watching any of his movies for more than a couple of minutes. :0
[FairfieldLife] Re: Poverty is imaginary -- the individual is cosmic
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jim_flanegin Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 9:23 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Poverty is imaginary -- the individual is cosmic At the Global Press Conference on the Removal of Poverty broadcast recently from the Global Financial Capital of New York, Maharishi said that the true nature of life is affluence. Poverty is imaginary, and every government can bring affluence to its people by taking the Raam currency from the Global Country of World Peace. You can read about other currency scams based on fake nations here: HYPERLINK http://www.quatloos.com/fake- nations.htm#camsidehttp://www.quatloos.com/fa ke-nations.htm#camside benny feldman isn't the first con artist to think this stuff up. The only thing reading these messages from Maharishi and those near to him literally will get you is frustration and confusion. Think a little about what he has been teaching for 60 years (hint: transcending), then re-read his words. The *new* meaning will be as clear as day. I am not rationalizing what he says, just translating it in a sense.:-) But I don't think he's speaking in metaphors or parables. He literally wants people to accept the Raam, etc. He's tying that wish to people's understanding and experience that the true nature of life (the transcendent) is affluence. People figure, I know that to be true, and he knows it better than I (i.e., he's enlightened), therefore he must be right about this Raam stuff, and I'd better align myself with his thinking if I want to get enlightened too, and be a eligible to enjoy the coming Age of Enlightenment. Those that are able to be that flexible are indeed blessed.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Poverty is imaginary -- the individual is cosmic
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives boo_lives@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: [snip] At the Global Press Conference on the Removal of Poverty broadcast recently from the Global Financial Capital of New York, Maharishi said that the true nature of life is affluence. Poverty is imaginary, and every government can bring affluence to its people by taking the Raam currency from the Global Country of World Peace. You can read about other currency scams based on fake nations here: http://www.quatloos.com/fake-nations.htm#camside benny feldman isn't the first con artist to think this stuff up. The only thing reading these messages from Maharishi and those near to him literally will get you is frustration and confusion. Think a little about what he has been teaching for 60 years (hint: transcending), then re-read his words. The *new* meaning will be as clear as day. I am not rationalizing what he says, just translating it in a sense.:-) Maharishis plans are not for 60 years this way or that way but for at least 1000 years ahead. Those who are sentimentally, or for other reasons, stuck in older instructions are, well, stuck. The Movement belongs to those that move.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev's deathbed instructions to Maharishi . . .
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: I experience the presence of Guru Dev almost daily. I'd really like to hear the details of that if you care to share it. If not openly, then an email would work.:-) I am not challenging either of your personal experience. However, why would it be limited to SBS? Couldn't, isn't the same available from Jesus, Mohamad, Buddha, Mother Mera, Amma, SSRS, Ananda Maya Ma, Tat Wala Baba, Mother Theresa, John the Baptist, Moses, Abraham, Pope Paul II, John Lennon, Indra, Vishnu, Krishna, Shiva, SomaGulakaOmPuri (a famous 8th century saint :), Shankara, Parashara, Vyassa, Shivananda, Yogananda, Ramakrishna, Meher Baba, Vayu7, Uma goddess of the Dawn, Surya, Jevhova, Isis, etc? Definately from many on that list depending on your affinity to them and their ability to involve themselves in the person here after their deaths. Their achivement on earth would necessarily have to reflect in their ability afterwards. I doubt that Paul II will be of much help, but who knows ?
[FairfieldLife] Consummatio?
French astrologer (astrologer?) Sara Freder: The weeks to come are going to be DECISIVE for the ENTIRE WORLD but even more so, they will be especially DECISIVE FOR YOU because for you, cardemaister, it's going to be a GENUINE REVIVAL and the beginning of a NEW LIFE full of Joy, Happiness, and MONEY! You have certainly read about it in the papers or seen it on television: many famous astrologers are predicting a wave of catastrophies and extraordinary events throughout the world in the coming days. It is true: astounding, extremely RARE events are about to happen. But I can tell you, here and now, that not all of these events are going to be catastrophic. In fact, I can assure you that, on the contrary, marvelous events are coming up which, provided you follow my advice, will radically change the course of your life. You will forget the grim life you are living today, a life you loathe. And you will at last get to know a new life, BEAUTIFUL, RICH and EXCITING! In fact, all these catastrophies they have been warning about don't spell the end of the world... ... But they do spell the end of ONE PARTICULAR KIND OF WORLD. It is the end of the World you are living in today, filled with pain and misfortune... For you, cardemaister, it is the voyage into a NEW WORLD, a much BETTER one, where everything shines and works out your way. --- PT BS!!
[FairfieldLife] Confused aboiut Swami-G (was Re: Guru Dev's deathbed instructions to Maharishi)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thus, Swami g's, seeming reliance on swamihood as being THE criteria for being an effective teacher, seem odd. TANMAY: I DONT KNOW IF YOU WATCHED THE VIDEOS OF SWAMI G UNDER GURUSWAMIG IN YOUTUBE BUT IT WOULD EXPLAIN THINGS. SWAMI G DIDN'T SEEK BEING A GURU, BUT RATHER PREFERED ENJOYING THE REALIZED STATE. HER GURU COMMISSIONED HER TO BE A GURU AND THEN CHARGED HER WITH THE THINGS TO DO THIS IS HOW IT WORKS. IT WAS AFTER HER GURU CONFIRMED THE REALIZATION, THAT THIS WAS ASSIGNED. And what is a guru? vs. a teacher. TANMAY: A SAT GURU IS A REALIZED BEING CAPABLE OF GUIDING OTHERS TO UNFOLD REALIZATION. IT IS A MATTER OF REMOVING THE COVERINGS FOR A GURU IS WHAT YOU ARE BUT WITHOUT THE COVERINGS. Can someone be a legitimate hatha yoga teacher and not be a Guru / swami / ordained by his/her Guru to be a Guru? TANMAY: THERE ARE MANY YOGA TEACHERS WITH THEIR CERTIFICATIONS. ONE OF SWAMI G'S VIDEOS IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN KUNDALINI YOGA AND THE KUNDALINI PATH. THERE IS A WOMAN THAT JUST CONTACTED SWAMI G WHO IS A KUNDALNI YOGA INSTRUCTOR. THE KUNDALNI AWAKENED FOR HER AND SHE IS IN A SEMI PANIC NOT KNOWING WHAT TO DO. FEW HAVE THE ABILITY TO GUIDE ONE THAT IS IN THE MIDST OF A KUNDALINI AWAKENING, YET THERE ARE MANY WAYS THAT THE KUNDALNI CAN AWAKEN. SOME OF THEM INCLUDE TAKING A KUNDALINI CLASS OR REIKI. IF IT DOES AWAKEN, THE ONES WHO HAVE BEEN THE CATALYST FOR THIS TO HAPPEN ARE CLUELESS IN HOW TO GUIDE. IT REQUIRES ONE WHO HAS TRAVERSED THE WHOLE OF THE KUNDDALNI JOURNEY FOR START TO REALIZATION ACORDING TO SWAMI G. MY EXPERIENCE CONFIRMS WHAT SWAMI G IS SAYING. SHE KNEW EXACTLY WHAT WAS TAKING PLACE AND WHEN. THOSE NOT IN THE MIDST OF THE KUNDALINI JOURNEY OR NOT A SAT GURU THAT IS FAMILIAR WITH THIS MAY THINK THIS IS A STORY BEING MADE UP, WHEREAS FOR ME, MY EXPERIECES TELL ME WHAT SWAMI G IS AND WHAT THE ABILITIES ARE TO GUIDE AND BRING ONE FORWARD RAPIDLY IN THE DIRECTION OF UNFOLDING REALIZATION FROM The same for a meditation teacher? I SUGGESTED THE TWO MOST IMPORTANT THINGS FOR ONE THAT WANTS ENLIGHTENMENT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE IS 1. FIND A SAT GURU 2.WORK IN A ONE TO ONE RELATIONSHIP. WHY SAT GURU AND NOT A GURU OR MEDITATION TEACHER? SWAMI G SAID THE TEACHER CAN ONLY TAKE YOU AS FAR AS THEY THEMSELVES ARE. WHY ONE TO ONE? I HAVE SEEN LOTS OF CONFUSION IN TM, KALKI, MUKTANANDA, ADI DA, SRI SRI RAVI SHANKAR- A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS- THE PEOPLE THOUGHT THEY WERE ACCESSING DEEPER LEVELS THAN WHAT WAS TAKING PLACE, OR THEIR UNDERSTANDING WERE SIMPLY IN THE DARK. I SEE IN WORKING ONE TO ONE HOW THIS IS CLEARED UP. THE SAT GURU KNOWS WHERE YOU ARE AT, AND KNOWS HOW YOU PROCESS WHAT IS GIVEN, AND THEN IS ABLE TO GUIDE ON THIS BASIS. EACH HAS IT'S OWN GUIDANCE ACCORDING TO WHAT IS NEEDED. IN ANOTHER OF YOUR POSTS, YOU ARE ASKING WHY NOT JESUS, BUDDA, ETC? GURU IS NOT THE PERSONA, IT IS ONE, SO YES, THE PHYSICAL BODY, MIND, WHEN THESE ARE GONE, WHAT IS LEFT, THIS IS BEING, THIS IS WHAT YOU ARE, WHAT THE GURU IS, AND WHAT IS, IT IS THE ETERNAL REALITY, THIS IS SWAMI G'S GENERAL POINTS SO, WHEN PEOPLE ARE HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH GURU DEV, EXPERIENCING GURU DEV- WHAT IS THIS? WHAT IS THE SIGNIFICANC? HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH THIS? WHY DOES IT HAPPEN? IT IS HIGHLY ADVANTAFEOUS FOR ONE'S UNFOLDMENT AS A SADAKA ON THE PATH, TO DEAL WITH THINGS WITH THE GURU ONE TO ONE- BE VERY CLEAR WHAT IS GOING ON. THIS MAY SIMPLY MEAN REPORTING IN, TELLING THE GURU WHAT TOOK PLACE. MAYBE THE GURU DOESNT SAY ANYTHING, BUT IF IT IS A SAT GURU, SHATIPAT IS ON GOING, TRANSMISSION IS ON GOING. IT IS NOT THE GURU DOING ANYTHING, IT IS MATTER OF OCCURANCE, IT HAPPENS ALONG THE WAY- PHENOMINA OCCURS ALONG THE WAY- MAYBE WE SAY THESE ARE SIGN POSTS ALONG THE WAY. WITHOUT THE GURU ONE TO ONE, I HAVE SEEN PEOPLE THINK THESE SIGN POSTS WERE SOMETHING OTHER THAN WHAT THEY ARE, SUCH AS ENLIGHTENMENT OR STAGES OF ENLIGHTENMENT. Yesterday you claimed to have given up this list, presumably because too many here posessed enough knowledge to see through your rethoric... and now you continue ! Don't you see that it is laughable for a socalled Guru to denonce someone for having been a secretary or wearing white ?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Confused aboiut Swami-G (was Re: Guru Dev's deathbed instructions to Maharishi)
On Jun 14, 2007, at 10:58 PM, new.morning wrote: Anyone could make the claim, but ones who had their progress verified and their realization authenticated by their master could truly make the claim. If you ever get the chance to read the spiritual biography _Baba: Autobiography of a Blue-Eyed Yogi_ by Rampuri you might find it interesting to hear what realizations these ganja smoking yogis do have. It's a fun and insightful read. My thought was not to dis charas smoking sadhus -- more power to them -- and Shiva is the lord of charas (as uncomforatble as that be to western devotees.) But my thought was, rather, stemming from my observation, and impression, that there are a lot of swamis out there (western and Indian) that are not deeply infused with experience and engrained in scripture. Nor intellectual giants. Nor deep in experience. That was the refreshing thing about _Baba_, the yogis of his akhara were more tapped into the source of these books/texts. Rote learning had little meaning. In others words they'd orally be given the text and it would just unfold inside them and become a part of them. He gives the example of the Maheshvara-sutra which is really just this sequence of the Sanskrit alphabet which is said to emerge from Shiva's damaru (double-sided trance drum). It becomes internalized and he sees creation as the unfoldment of this code (the text). He becomes the text. I know in my own case when I really, in my heart, wanted to know a teaching and it's text, one of the dakinis/shaktis from my gurus mandala would energetically unfold it inside of me. Search your mind as you would, you could not even find the question in your being after she has encoded it inside your primordial nature. All doubts or questions were simply gone. In reality it was always already a part of you, from the beginning, primordially. It just needed nudged awake like a homeopathic medicine nudging awake some asleep part of your immune system. Thus, Swami g's, seeming reliance on swamihood as being THE criteria for being an effective teacher, seem odd. I wasn't getting that. It was just a systematic and tried and true method for creating sat gurus in their tradition. It's advantage is that it's verifiable. Maybe Kapleau Roshi had a good point when he said Masters of old lashed out at those who claimed enlightenment yet refused to be tested, calling them earthworms living in the slime of self-validated satori. There are a lot of slimy earthworms out there ready to teach and lead you. And what is a guru? vs. a teacher. Can someone be a legitimate hatha yoga teacher and not be a Guru / swami / ordained by his/her Guru to be a Guru? The same for a meditation teacher? Well a guru by it's simplest definition is someone who can lead from out of darkness (gu) to the light of realization (ru). It can be trained in, as in these various akharas and lines or as in the traditional training's for lamas, and is verifiable by knowing the stages on your own. Of course someone CAN have that experience outside of any tradition but that's not only rare, it also has it's own dangers (particularly deception).
[FairfieldLife] good news
is this what MMY thinks will soon be reported by world press? http://www.seethru.co.uk/goodle/goodle3.htm# On a more serious note - some of the developments reported in Global Family Chat are pretty encouraging. Things are beginning to happen, after decades of stagnation..
[FairfieldLife] I don't know...how...to...
http://www.americanantigravity.com/levitation101.shtml
[FairfieldLife] Confused aboiut Swami-G (was Re: Guru Dev's deathbed instructions to Maharishi)
Yesterday you claimed to have given up this list, TANMAY: REREAD IT, IT SAYS I WILL HANG OUT FOR A WHILE, I SAID I AM FINISHED SENDING IN SWAMI G;S RESPONSES. presumably because too many here posessed enough knowledge to see through your rethoric... and now you continue ! Don't you see that it is laughable for a socalled Guru to denonce someone for having been a secretary or wearing white ? TANMAY: I AM A STUDENT OF SWAMI G WITH ALL THE BENEFITS I HAVE DESCRIBED SO I SEE SWAMI G FROM THAT PLATFORM AND AS MY GURU, AND THEREFORE HAVE A DIFFERENT WAY TO SEE WHAT SWAMI G SAYS THAN YOU DO. THE VIEWPOINTS THAT YOU AND OTHERS HAVE IS UP TO YOU. Well a guru by it's simplest definition is someone who can lead from out of darkness (gu) to the light of realization (ru). It can be trained in, as in these various akharas and lines or as in the traditional training's for lamas, and is verifiable by knowing the stages on your own. Of course someone CAN have that experience outside of any tradition but that's not only rare, it also has it's own dangers (particularly deception). TANMAY: SWAMI G HAS REFERRED TO THAT DARKNESS AS EGO, AND THAT IS WHAT IS SURRENDERED IF REALIZATION IS TO TAKE PLACE.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Consummatio?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: French astrologer (astrologer?) Sara Freder: The weeks to come are going to be DECISIVE for the ENTIRE WORLD but even more so, they will be especially DECISIVE FOR YOU because for you, cardemaister, it's going to be a GENUINE REVIVAL and the beginning of a NEW LIFE full of Joy, Happiness, and MONEY! You have certainly read about it in the papers or seen it on television: many famous astrologers are predicting a wave of catastrophies and extraordinary events throughout the world in the coming days. It is true: astounding, extremely RARE events are about to happen. But I can tell you, here and now, that not all of these events are going to be catastrophic. In fact, I can assure you that, on the contrary, marvelous events are coming up which, provided you follow my advice, will radically change the course of your life. You will forget the grim life you are living today, a life you loathe. And you will at last get to know a new life, BEAUTIFUL, RICH and EXCITING! In fact, all these catastrophies they have been warning about don't spell the end of the world... ... But they do spell the end of ONE PARTICULAR KIND OF WORLD. It is the end of the World you are living in today, filled with pain and misfortune... For you, cardemaister, it is the voyage into a NEW WORLD, a much BETTER one, where everything shines and works out your way. --- PT BS!! Is Sara Freder a philanthropist? If so, sign me up! :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Poverty is imaginary -- the individual is cosmic
Maharishis plans are not for 60 years this way or that way but for at least 1000 years ahead. Those who are sentimentally, or for other reasons, stuck in older instructions are, well, stuck. The Movement belongs to those that move. It appears to me that Maharishi has established a government foundation, based on the vedic divisions of labor, for generations to come. He has established a government based on the following order of labor: brahmin, kshatriya, vaisya, and sudras. The brahmins are the teachers. The kshatriyas are the administrators. The vaisyas are the business people. The sudras are the workers. Maharishi has already established the kshatriyas by appointing the various Rajahs in various regions of the world. In short, he has revived the vedic system of governance. It would interesting to speculate as to how long this system of government will last.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Consummatio?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: French astrologer (astrologer?) Sara Freder: The weeks to come are going to be DECISIVE for the ENTIRE WORLD but even more so, they will be especially DECISIVE FOR YOU Is Sara Freder a philanthropist? If so, sign me up! :-) At least she pretends to be!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Poverty is imaginary -- the individual is cosmic
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maharishis plans are not for 60 years this way or that way but for at least 1000 years ahead. Those who are sentimentally, or for other reasons, stuck in older instructions are, well, stuck. The Movement belongs to those that move. It appears to me that Maharishi has established a government foundation, based on the vedic divisions of labor, for generations to come. He has established a government based on the following order of labor: brahmin, kshatriya, vaisya, and sudras. The brahmins are the teachers. The kshatriyas are the administrators. The vaisyas are the business people. The sudras are the workers. Maharishi has already established the kshatriyas by appointing the various Rajahs in various regions of the world. In short, he has revived the vedic system of governance. It would interesting to speculate as to how long this system of government will last. what system of government? what is being governed? people who pay a million dollars get a title and a crown and the right to work part time to raise more money for the mov't. they're not governing anything outside of the movement. rajas have a little power but most power in the tmo resides with MMY relatives and the usual insiders. giving titles for money began with the 108s in the early 70s and has continue in various incarnations since then. the rajas will continue until the next big thing and then the tmo will gradually wither away after MMY dies.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Poverty is imaginary -- the individual is cosmic
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of boo_lives Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 2:44 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Poverty is imaginary -- the individual is cosmic what system of government? what is being governed? people who pay a million dollars get a title and a crown and the right to work part time to raise more money for the mov't. they're not governing anything outside of the movement. rajas have a little power but most power in the tmo resides with MMY relatives and the usual insiders. giving titles for money began with the 108s in the early 70s and has continue in various incarnations since then. the rajas will continue until the next big thing and then the tmo will gradually wither away after MMY dies. I have a friend who was a 108, who told me that MMY instructed them not to fraternize with the local teachers when they went to “the field,” because if they held themselves aloof, the locals would look up to them and respect them more. Didn’t work that way. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.17/850 - Release Date: 6/15/2007 11:31 AM
[FairfieldLife] Re: Consummatio?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: French astrologer (astrologer?) Sara Freder: The weeks to come are going to be DECISIVE for the ENTIRE WORLD but even more so, they will be especially DECISIVE FOR YOU Is Sara Freder a philanthropist? If so, sign me up! :-) At least she pretends to be! No free lunch, eh? :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Poverty is imaginary -- the individual is cosmic
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maharishis plans are not for 60 years this way or that way but for at least 1000 years ahead. Those who are sentimentally, or for other reasons, stuck in older instructions are, well, stuck. The Movement belongs to those that move. It appears to me that Maharishi has established a government foundation, based on the vedic divisions of labor, for generations to come. He has established a government based on the following order of labor: brahmin, kshatriya, vaisya, and sudras. The brahmins are the teachers. The kshatriyas are the administrators. The vaisyas are the business people. The sudras are the workers. Maharishi has already established the kshatriyas by appointing the various Rajahs in various regions of the world. In short, he has revived the vedic system of governance. It would interesting to speculate as to how long this system of government will last. it lasts as long as you want it to, or don't want it to, as the case may be.:-)
[FairfieldLife] Confused aboiut Swami-G (was Re: Guru Dev's deathbed instructions to Maharishi)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yesterday you claimed to have given up this list, presumably because too many here posessed enough knowledge to see through your rethoric... and now you continue ! Don't you see that it is laughable for a socalled Guru to denonce someone for having been a secretary or wearing white ? She takes all that hierarchical lineage and tradition stuff very seriously. And, as Dr. Pete pointed out, it's all just divisions of the mind. It's Indian cultural baggage, dusty codified duality, that for some people, apparently, is inextricably intertwined with awakening itself. You can get a taste of how very seriously she takes herself and the whole guru shtick from what she writes on her contact page: http://www.abide-in-self.com/contact-Swami-G..htm 1. Save the Hey there or the Hi for your buddies. When seeking someone's Wisdom have the Courtesy to come with the greeting of Namaste.
[FairfieldLife] Confused aboiut Swami-G (was Re: Guru Dev's deathbed instructions to Maharishi)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: Yesterday you claimed to have given up this list, presumably because too many here posessed enough knowledge to see through your rethoric... and now you continue ! Don't you see that it is laughable for a socalled Guru to denonce someone for having been a secretary or wearing white ? She takes all that hierarchical lineage and tradition stuff very seriously. And, as Dr. Pete pointed out, it's all just divisions of the mind. It's Indian cultural baggage, dusty codified duality, that for some people, apparently, is inextricably intertwined with awakening itself. You can get a taste of how very seriously she takes herself and the whole guru shtick from what she writes on her contact page: http://www.abide-in-self.com/contact-Swami-G..htm 1. Save the Hey there or the Hi for your buddies. When seeking someone's Wisdom have the Courtesy to come with the greeting of Namaste. Looks and feels to me like a poser. No energy hit at all. No awakening. No offense to any followers- just offering my sense of it.:-)
[FairfieldLife] Confused aboiut Swami-G (was Re: Guru Dev's deathbed instructions to Maharishi)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She takes all that hierarchical lineage and tradition stuff very seriously. And, as Dr. Pete pointed out, it's all just divisions of the mind. It's Indian cultural baggage, dusty codified duality, that for some people, apparently, is inextricably intertwined with awakening itself. You can get a taste of how very seriously she takes herself and the whole guru shtick from what she writes on her contact page: http://www.abide-in-self.com/contact-Swami-G..htm 1. Save the Hey there or the Hi for your buddies. When seeking someone's Wisdom have the Courtesy to come with the greeting of Namaste. What I am wondering about - with all this insistence on traditon - is the following: Oviously she got the commissioning to be a Guru, by a Bengali tantric. One Guru so to say. But thats not the Guru, who initiated her into Sannyas, who, if I assume correctly was a Swami from the Juna Akhada. So she takes the Swami title from one line, Junas presumably, who worship Shiva, and the Guru title from another- Bengali Kali worshipping tantric. Nothing wrong in my eyes, but indeed curious with the insistence of being a Satguru in an authentic Shankaracharya lineage. So who then is the Guru? Shouldn't the one who gave the Swami title then be the Guru, otherwise how could she then claim to authenically represent his lineage? If the Guru who commissioned her to be a Guru would not be part of the same tradition, lets say the Dasanami, or the Juna Akhara (which may be the case), how could she then call herself to be a Swami in that line? I am just wondering. It is not that I object to someone changing his Guru or having two Gurus, it just seems strange with all this INSISTENCE on representing a PURE lineage. Wouldn't she then not have to give the Swami title back? Because I know there is a very strong insistence on the Guru/Disciple bond with all the Naga-Swamis. This is also interesting with regard to the following comment Ron posted here recently: (#141381) * Next question: If a disciple goes astray and then comes back to you and asks for forgiveness, is this almost always, always or rarely granted? g: depends ... if they have taken Diksha elsewhere then No --- the bond is broken . other situations are case by case ...
[FairfieldLife] Re: the Grim Helsinki Night
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: http://movies2.nytimes.com/2007/06/13/movies/13dusk.html I'm not that much into movies. For instance, been *trying* to watch Citizen Kane through a couple of times, without success. :) Oddly enough, some of Aki's films I've seen several times. He's my absolute favourite amongst film makers. But I'm afraid many of you guys couldn't stand watching any of his movies for more than a couple of minutes. :0 *** Sounds like the Finnish David Lynch...
[FairfieldLife] Confused aboiut Swami-G (was Re: Guru Dev's deathbed instructions to Maharishi)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: Yesterday you claimed to have given up this list, presumably because too many here posessed enough knowledge to see through your rethoric... and now you continue ! Don't you see that it is laughable for a socalled Guru to denonce someone for having been a secretary or wearing white ? She takes all that hierarchical lineage and tradition stuff very seriously. And, as Dr. Pete pointed out, it's all just divisions of the mind. It's Indian cultural baggage, dusty codified duality, that for some people, apparently, is inextricably intertwined with awakening itself. You can get a taste of how very seriously she takes herself and the whole guru shtick from what she writes on her contact page: http://www.abide-in-self.com/contact-Swami-G..htm 1. Save the Hey there or the Hi for your buddies. When seeking someone's Wisdom have the Courtesy to come with the greeting of Namaste. Looks and feels to me like a poser. No energy hit at all. No awakening. No offense to any followers- just offering my sense of it.:-) Well, not every teacher or teaching is going to be everyone's cuppa tea. Certainly not everyone is going to be drawn to the Waking Down teachers who really gave me a jump start, but if any of them had insisted that I address him with 'namaste', I'd have laughed in his face and told him to get over himself already. Heck, last year when Saniel Bonder was in town, I ended up taking a weekend course that I had not planned on taking because I didn't like his course description. I told him right to his face that it sounded like saccharine new-age dreck. Some teachers/gurus might have thrown me out on my ass for saying something like that, but Saniel loved it. And, the course turned out to be immensely valuable for me.
[FairfieldLife] Gamble's Eco Village in FF
Today's Des Moines Register: Lonnie Gamble, a professor in the Maharishi University of Management's Sustainable Living program, will attend the Des Moines event to talk about efforts he has made to power his house with solar panels and wind. He'll also discuss how producing energy with wind turbines helps local economies. Gamble has appliances, high-speed Internet and other technology that operate on energy supplied by alternative sources, rather than by coal or nuclear power, Iowa's top power sources. Gamble hasn't paid an electric bill in 15 years - his house isn't connected to electric lines. He catches rainwater off his roof to store for future use and pays $50 a year for gas to heat his 500- square-foot house. He grows food year-round in a greenhouse. We have regular washing machines and dishwashers, and all of it runs on solar panels and wind power, he said. I'm coming over there to tell people it's possible. Gamble has helped create Abundance Ecovillage, a five- house subdivision in Fairfield where houses are powered by solar and wind on site, rain water is the only water used, cold air is pumped up from underground tunnels to cool houses, and residents plant edible landscaping and eat from their gardens every day. It's not like we suffer. Our showers are just as hot, and our beers are just as cold, Gamble said. http://tinyurl.com/yszycm
[FairfieldLife] Re: the Grim Helsinki Night
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: http://movies2.nytimes.com/2007/06/13/movies/13dusk.html I'm not that much into movies. For instance, been *trying* to watch Citizen Kane through a couple of times, without success. :) Oddly enough, some of Aki's films I've seen several times. He's my absolute favourite amongst film makers. But I'm afraid many of you guys couldn't stand watching any of his movies for more than a couple of minutes. :0 *** Sounds like the Finnish David Lynch... Dunno. I've only seen Blue Velvet and *some* Twin Peaks. Here's a typical scene from a Kaurismaki film (1:30) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkMiTzYV7-U
[FairfieldLife] Re: the Grim Helsinki Night
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: http://movies2.nytimes.com/2007/06/13/movies/13dusk.html I'm not that much into movies. For instance, been *trying* to watch Citizen Kane through a couple of times, without success. :) Oddly enough, some of Aki's films I've seen several times. He's my absolute favourite amongst film makers. But I'm afraid many of you guys couldn't stand watching any of his movies for more than a couple of minutes. :0 *** Sounds like the Finnish David Lynch... Dunno. I've only seen Blue Velvet and *some* Twin Peaks. Here's a typical scene from a Kaurismaki film (1:30) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkMiTzYV7-U *** I was not referring to any specific content or style of the films of Lynch v. Kaurismaki, but to the fact that they seem to either have adoring fans or people can't stand their films. Re the Kaurismaki film, this is the typically inaccurate depiction of poker in films -- in an actual poker game, you can't take money out of your pocket in the middle of a hand -- Hollywood films almost never get poker right either, except for a few, like Rounders.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Seclorum Disputed ---- was/How Judy...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: Either way, translating it as New Secular Order is about as logical as translating the cognate French phrase fin de siecle as end of the secular, instead of end of the century, and writing a Dan Brown novel about the secret fundamentalist sexist murdering land- grabbing French conspiracy to restore monasticism at the close of the 19th century, right after transmuting the moon into green cheese. Hey, why not? Its all good. Since Dan Brown and Off_World are [not yet whole, blissful and perfected in knowledge] parts of Rory. I mean parts of ... Parts of? Well its true us off-worlders have bigger private parts if that's what your trying to say? OffWorld
Re: [FairfieldLife] Confused aboiut Swami-G (was Re: Guru Dev's deathbed instructions to Maharishi)
On Jun 15, 2007, at 6:01 PM, qntmpkt wrote: ---G's symptoms of being on the path: Blue Light Seeing of Auras Heat up the Spine (can be extreme) Cold feeling flooding a chakra area Feeling the Nervous System is short-circuiting (can be extreme) Pulsing Energy at the Base of the Spine (can be painful) Red Flame Pattern over Heart Chakra Area Sounds internally heard: 1. Birds 2. like a train sound 3. Bells 3. A hissing or whistling sound 4. Someone quickly saying something in your ear (like Ha) Extreme Sensitivity to Sound, Vibration Etc... Siddhis such as complete knowledge on energy work Feeling what is happening in someone else's body Picking up others emotions Normal photographs that pick-up light phenomenon and mists etc. Body awareness changes - feeling larger - feeling smaller Feeling as if you are here and not here An absolute absence of thought Bliss Extreme Fear (note :this one is temporary) Dreams of Snakes and Fires Dreams of - religious and spiritual symbology Samadhi states of Feeling Utterly connected with ALL - yet also witnessing and not involved... Finding the consciousness expanding to where you are not in the body.. (example seeing over the trees while you are at ground level) Mudras (hand gestures ) spontaneously happen Asanas (body postures) spontaneously happen Body may move with certain music - uncontrolled pulsing or swaying Feeling as if you are in a strong earthquake Ability to manifest what is needed - once again a siddhi but do not attach to these phenomena, let them go Seeing of internal lights (flashing lights in vision rotating light) Seeing the world in enhanced coloration Yawning - Laughing - Crying That's just cultural baggage quant, we should just ignore it. ;-) Nice list actually!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Consummatio?
its a scam. They may look for someone who does have something like a Pluto trine coming so her magic can seem to have a part in the good fortune. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: French astrologer (astrologer?) Sara Freder: The weeks to come are going to be DECISIVE for the ENTIRE WORLD but even more so, they will be especially DECISIVE FOR YOU because for you, cardemaister, it's going to be a GENUINE REVIVAL and the beginning of a NEW LIFE full of Joy, Happiness, and MONEY! You have certainly read about it in the papers or seen it on television: many famous astrologers are predicting a wave of catastrophies and extraordinary events throughout the world in the coming days. It is true: astounding, extremely RARE events are about to happen. But I can tell you, here and now, that not all of these events are going to be catastrophic. In fact, I can assure you that, on the contrary, marvelous events are coming up which, provided you follow my advice, will radically change the course of your life. You will forget the grim life you are living today, a life you loathe. And you will at last get to know a new life, BEAUTIFUL, RICH and EXCITING! In fact, all these catastrophies they have been warning about don't spell the end of the world... ... But they do spell the end of ONE PARTICULAR KIND OF WORLD. It is the end of the World you are living in today, filled with pain and misfortune... For you, cardemaister, it is the voyage into a NEW WORLD, a much BETTER one, where everything shines and works out your way. --- PT BS!!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Confused aboiut Swami-G (was Re: Guru Dev's deathbed instructions to Maharishi)
Sounds like my normal day ;-) --- qntmpkt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---G's symptoms of being on the path: Blue Light Seeing of Auras Heat up the Spine (can be extreme) Cold feeling flooding a chakra area Feeling the Nervous System is short-circuiting (can be extreme) Pulsing Energy at the Base of the Spine (can be painful) Red Flame Pattern over Heart Chakra Area Sounds internally heard: 1. Birds 2. like a train sound 3. Bells 3. A hissing or whistling sound 4. Someone quickly saying something in your ear (like Ha) Extreme Sensitivity to Sound, Vibration Etc... Siddhis such as complete knowledge on energy work Feeling what is happening in someone else's body Picking up others emotions Normal photographs that pick-up light phenomenon and mists etc. Body awareness changes - feeling larger - feeling smaller Feeling as if you are here and not here An absolute absence of thought Bliss Extreme Fear (note :this one is temporary) Dreams of Snakes and Fires Dreams of - religious and spiritual symbology Samadhi states of Feeling Utterly connected with ALL - yet also witnessing and not involved... Finding the consciousness expanding to where you are not in the body.. (example seeing over the trees while you are at ground level) Mudras (hand gestures ) spontaneously happen Asanas (body postures) spontaneously happen Body may move with certain music - uncontrolled pulsing or swaying Feeling as if you are in a strong earthquake Ability to manifest what is needed - once again a siddhi but do not attach to these phenomena, let them go Seeing of internal lights (flashing lights in vision rotating light) Seeing the world in enhanced coloration Yawning - Laughing - Crying In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: Yesterday you claimed to have given up this list, presumably because too many here posessed enough knowledge to see through your rethoric... and now you continue ! Don't you see that it is laughable for a socalled Guru to denonce someone for having been a secretary or wearing white ? She takes all that hierarchical lineage and tradition stuff very seriously. And, as Dr. Pete pointed out, it's all just divisions of the mind. It's Indian cultural baggage, dusty codified duality, that for some people, apparently, is inextricably intertwined with awakening itself. You can get a taste of how very seriously she takes herself and the whole guru shtick from what she writes on her contact page: http://www.abide-in-self.com/contact-Swami-G..htm 1. Save the Hey there or the Hi for your buddies. When seeking someone's Wisdom have the Courtesy to come with the greeting of Namaste. Looks and feels to me like a poser. No energy hit at all. No awakening. No offense to any followers- just offering my sense of it.:-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You snooze, you lose. Get messages ASAP with AutoCheck in the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_html.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Confused aboiut Swami-G (was Re: Guru Dev's deathbed instructions to Maharishi)
--- Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: Yesterday you claimed to have given up this list, presumably because too many here posessed enough knowledge to see through your rethoric... and now you continue ! Don't you see that it is laughable for a socalled Guru to denonce someone for having been a secretary or wearing white ? She takes all that hierarchical lineage and tradition stuff very seriously. And, as Dr. Pete pointed out, it's all just divisions of the mind. It's Indian cultural baggage, dusty codified duality, that for some people, apparently, is inextricably intertwined with awakening itself. You can get a taste of how very seriously she takes herself and the whole guru shtick from what she writes on her contact page: http://www.abide-in-self.com/contact-Swami-G..htm 1. Save the Hey there or the Hi for your buddies. When seeking someone's Wisdom have the Courtesy to come with the greeting of Namaste. Looks and feels to me like a poser. No energy hit at all. No awakening. No offense to any followers- just offering my sense of it.:-) Well, not every teacher or teaching is going to be everyone's cuppa tea. Certainly not everyone is going to be drawn to the Waking Down teachers who really gave me a jump start, but if any of them had insisted that I address him with 'namaste', I'd have laughed in his face and told him to get over himself already. Heck, last year when Saniel Bonder was in town, I ended up taking a weekend course that I had not planned on taking because I didn't like his course description. I told him right to his face that it sounded like saccharine new-age dreck. Some teachers/gurus might have thrown me out on my ass for saying something like that, but Saniel loved it. And, the course turned out to be immensely valuable for me. Reminds me of people asking SSRS what they should call him. He said you could call him anything you like that it really didn't matter. When asked about him being a guru, etc., he got this pained bemused look on his face and said all these concepts aren't necessary. Just the mind labeling things for no purpose at all. He said to treat and to think of him as your friend, because he was. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Confused aboiut Swami-G (was Re: Guru Dev's deathbed instructions to Maharishi)
On Jun 15, 2007, at 7:14 PM, Peter wrote: Reminds me of people asking SSRS what they should call him. He said you could call him anything you like that it really didn't matter. When asked about him being a guru, etc., he got this pained bemused look on his face and said all these concepts aren't necessary. Just the mind labeling things for no purpose at all. He said to treat and to think of him as your friend, because he was. What a nice guy. You just gotta love Ravi. But I also don't confuse this with the fact that there is a natural lineage of evolution, and if someone is at a higher state of evolution, I just appreciate that there are patterns that will naturally imprint towards me in part due to that appreciation. I try not to get wrapped up in the cultural trappings of that appreciation because I appreciate why they're there, even if they seem foreign to my own culture. Why be a spiritual and/or cultural xenophobe when understanding increases appreciation and appreciation is a major mechanism for transmission? Wouldn't it be great if gurus would just appear in the clothing you could get at the local mall and appreciate cultural absurdities like Christmas? Wouldn't it be cool if Santa was replaced as a guru worshipping holiday, collective America and Europa surrendering to the morphogenetic field of human evolution? If only. But in case that really happens, remember where you heard it first. ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Confused aboiut Swami-G (was Re: Guru Dev's deathbed instructions to Maharishi)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 15, 2007, at 6:01 PM, qntmpkt wrote: ---G's symptoms of being on the path: Blue Light Seeing of Auras Heat up the Spine (can be extreme) Cold feeling flooding a chakra area Feeling the Nervous System is short-circuiting (can be extreme) Pulsing Energy at the Base of the Spine (can be painful) Red Flame Pattern over Heart Chakra Area Sounds internally heard: 1. Birds 2. like a train sound 3. Bells 3. A hissing or whistling sound 4. Someone quickly saying something in your ear (like Ha) Extreme Sensitivity to Sound, Vibration Etc... Siddhis such as complete knowledge on energy work Feeling what is happening in someone else's body Picking up others emotions Normal photographs that pick-up light phenomenon and mists etc. Body awareness changes - feeling larger - feeling smaller Feeling as if you are here and not here An absolute absence of thought Bliss Extreme Fear (note :this one is temporary) Dreams of Snakes and Fires Dreams of - religious and spiritual symbology Samadhi states of Feeling Utterly connected with ALL - yet also witnessing and not involved... Finding the consciousness expanding to where you are not in the body.. (example seeing over the trees while you are at ground level) Mudras (hand gestures ) spontaneously happen Asanas (body postures) spontaneously happen Body may move with certain music - uncontrolled pulsing or swaying Feeling as if you are in a strong earthquake Ability to manifest what is needed - once again a siddhi but do not attach to these phenomena, let them go Seeing of internal lights (flashing lights in vision rotating light) Seeing the world in enhanced coloration Yawning - Laughing - Crying That's just cultural baggage quant, we should just ignore it. ;-) Nice list actually! Nice list, indeed. But those things can be experienced without the need for self-proclaimed satgurus appealing to the authority of lineages and whatnot. Hell, some of those things could be experienced by eating a couple large slices of chocolate cake before bedtime.
[FairfieldLife] Confused aboiut Swami-G (was Re: Guru Dev's deathbed instructions to Maharishi)
Namaste FFL, Now that didn't fuck you brains up just now that I greeted the group like that , did it? How about how I just used the word Fuck? I am cracking up here but actually Swami G has used the word fuck way more than I have, after all my up bringing is more on the east coast, whereas it seems along Swami G's journey, it was in Hawaii, ca and the west coast- they talk like that over there. Why am I bringing this up? hmmm, I didn't know what I was going to write exactly, I hit the reply button and off I go, I just got through reading like 5 posts on this thread which I thought was about dead but it's coming back to life. Somehow of all the comments, the flavor of what's sitting in my memory is Alex;s things. Hard to explain my memory now because there is a real difference in it, no words to explain how it works, yet Swami G and maybe some others can understand. To try to explain this memory thing, it is as if the silence drowns out the memory, yet what is needed is there. How is it if the memory is drowned out that I can recall all the words needed now to write? This memory being drowned out is part of the kundalini being awake, which then is why the silence is there, so it all connected. The mind changes, actually it is not about a cosmic mind, it is more about the loosing the mind. Look at all the stuff I am saying- no cosmic mind, you loose your mind, no cosmic ego, you loose your ego, the identity of who you thought you were- gone- in Realization- no more Alex. And the truth of Kundalini, once it is switched on, it can;t be switched off. And did I tell you? - It was aparent to me that the Om mantra is used with Swami G- if you research what Maharishi says about the Om Mantra, he says you loose all your money and everything else. Lets see, is there anything else I can think of the scare the shit out of you before I see if anyone is interested in joining this path? hmmm I think I got most of it, you loose your mind, your identity, maybe you could really at some point have some difficult memory loss or who knows what may come up with the kundalini? I am enjoying everything but that is me, I can't tell you what would happen with you, that is up to you. How did I get into all this anyway, where was I? hahahaha. Well, no matter what has been written by me or Swami G, this path is not what what thought it was when they get to know it, Swami G was not what you thoght she was once you get to know her, and Swami G says once realization is known, it was never what you thought it was. Since Alex is bringing up some paling around he did with his Guru, let me think what I did- we went to see like 3 movies, one was the D'ovinci code. Right in the middle of the movie, I sunk so deep in consciosness, I wont forget that movie- after I was laughing so hard and Swami G joined right in with me. oh yea, we went to the circus in Mexico, pretty good, also in Hawaii we went to this circus sort of thing- I recognized one of the girls in the circus, awesome, she shot an arrow with her feet while standing on her hands and hit the target. There was some tatoo shop in Honolulu, so Swami G got some extra tatoos , including an amazing one on her arm of her daughter Noel. We also went to this polynisuan thing in Honolulu, also rather awesome. We stayed in yurts on the big Island, it just happened to be clothes optional, something to add to our laughter. You would have to be out of your mind to walk around naked there because you would get your ass bitten off with mosquitoes. Wanna hear about india? or Mexico? or LA? - We travel alot together it looks like, I will keep you posted maybe. But down to the serious points- i was going to say I dont give a rats ass what you do because Swami G has used that expression so ofter, but in this case I do care how everyone makes out here, I hope it is well. Just as I am writting here, this could have been Swami G writting this way. Then there are many that run to the books to see how the enlightened are supposed to be, and then run through the list- sometimes directly to Swami G- It says here that the enlightened pick their nose with the left finger- you are using the right, they do this, but you do this. There was one professor who studdied metaphysics for years, and Swami G was just not able to meet the standards for being enlightened acording to what his books told him. Because he has the athority with his degree, the weight for what he says is supposed to be very significant. But this is not my final letter, I am not mad, I am having a little fun here. I dont have to answer questions because if there were sincere inquiries about this path, you all know what you can find Swami G to ask- don't know what happens from there Lets see, I went into everything under the sun in this letter. oh yes, there was a partial list of what can bring about a Kundalini awakening posted but it was labeled something else by the poster. That is not cool really because it is intentially
[FairfieldLife] Interesting story about Doug Henning
Someone told me this story today, as told to him by Jim Bagnola. When Doug was doing The Magic Show on Broadway, he often got calls from people wanting to sell him magic tricks or illusions. This is common with magicians, especially well-known ones. His manager, Jim Bagnola, fielded the calls. One time an older gentleman called and asked to talk to Doug. Jim said he was Doug’s manager and the gentleman would have to talk to him first, but the man insisted on talking directly to Doug and finally Jim put him through to Doug. The man offered to sell Doug an illusion which would enable him to levitate across the English Channel, along with his wife Debbie, and promised (it went without saying) that this would make him the most famous magician in the world. Doug and Debbie proceeded to have numerous chats with the fellow and developed a friendship with him. The gentleman knew all kinds of things which he couldn’t possibly have known except through some siddhi. He would tell Doug that certain things were going to happen in his life, and then they would. Often he would say that certain people were going to be in Doug’s audience that evening, and they were. One time he told Doug that his show that evening might not go on because Doug was going to get a bad stomach flu, but that Swami Satchitananda was going to be in the audience that evening, and that he would heal him. That’s what ended up happening. I’m not sure how long this phone friendship developed, but finally Doug was ready to go out to some rural area of Arizona to meet the guy and have a demonstration of the promised ability to fly across the English Channel. Doug was meeting with MMY in DC along with Jim Bagnola and John Hagelin. The three of them were going to fly out and as the meeting went on, they became more and more desperate to leave for the airport so as not to miss their flight. Every time they mentioned it to MMY, he put them off, and finally told them they shouldn’t go. Doug asked why and MMY said that the man they were going to meet was not a good man. Doug protested that he had become a friend and that Doug trusted him. MMY kept arguing his point of view and Doug his. Finally, Doug said “Maharishi, you don’t understand.” MMY paused and said, “We don’t know what planet this man is from. He has a Master in Tibet. If you go out there, I’ll never see you again. I don’t want you to go.” So they didn’t go. Afterwards, Doug tried to contact the guy, but the number he had so often called was disconnected. He never heard from him again. Rick Archer President SearchSummit HYPERLINK http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmapaddr=1108+S.+B+St.csz=Fairfield% 2C+IA+52556-3805country=us \n1108 S. B St. Fairfield, IA 52556-3805 HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: fax: Skype ID: HYPERLINK http://www.plaxo.com/click_to_call?src=jj_signatureTo=641-472-9336Email=r [EMAIL PROTECTED] \n641-472-9336 914-470-9336 Rick_Archer HYPERLINK https://www.plaxo.com/add_me?u=25769982909v0=356483k0=1251699766v1=35648 4k1=804482755src=client_sig_212_1_card_joininvite=1 \nAlways have my latest info HYPERLINK http://www.plaxo.com/signature?src=client_sig_212_1_card_sig; \nWant a signature like this? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.17/850 - Release Date: 6/15/2007 11:31 AM image001.gif
[FairfieldLife] Confused aboiut Swami-G (was Re: Guru Dev's deathbed instructions to Maharishi)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you get kicked off here for writting letters like this? No. Just don't write more than 35 of them per week.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Confused aboiut Swami-G (was Re: Guru Dev's deathbed instructions to Maharishi)
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Stanley Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 9:45 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Confused aboiut Swami-G (was Re: Guru Dev's deathbed instructions to Maharishi) --- In HYPERLINK mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you get kicked off here for writting letters like this? No. Just don't write more than 35 of them per week. He did 38 this week. The reason we have this rule, Ron, is that some people were posting excessively without putting much thought into their posts, and were squabbling back and forth with one another, indulging in petty personal disputes which didn’t interest the majority of the group. After some deliberation we decided to establish a posting quota, hoping that by restricting quantity, we would improve quality. It worked. At first we limited it to 5 per day, but decided to average it out to 35 per week. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.17/850 - Release Date: 6/15/2007 11:31 AM
RE: [FairfieldLife] Confused aboiut Swami-G (was Re: Guru Dev's deathbed instructions to Maharishi)
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Archer Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 9:55 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Confused aboiut Swami-G (was Re: Guru Dev's deathbed instructions to Maharishi) No. Just don't write more than 35 of them per week. He did 38 this week. The reason we have this rule, Ron, is that some people were posting excessively without putting much thought into their posts, and were squabbling back and forth with one another, indulging in petty personal disputes which didn’t interest the majority of the group. After some deliberation we decided to establish a posting quota, hoping that by restricting quantity, we would improve quality. It worked. At first we limited it to 5 per day, but decided to average it out to 35 per week. - I reset the count every Friday at midnight Central Time. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.17/850 - Release Date: 6/15/2007 11:31 AM
[FairfieldLife] Confused aboiut Swami-G (was Re: Guru Dev's deathbed instructions to Maharishi)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks and feels to me like a poser. No energy hit at all. No awakening. No offense to any followers- just offering my sense of it.:-) Clearly Vaj got it wrong, or only partial right. As Jim has astutely reminded us, a guru must be one who can dispel darkness, AND give a substantive energy hit to remote readers of web sites.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting story about Doug Henning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone told me this story today, as told to him by Jim Bagnola. When Doug was doing The Magic Show on Broadway, he often got calls from people wanting to sell him magic tricks or illusions. This is common with magicians, especially well-known ones. His manager, Jim Bagnola, fielded the calls. One time an older gentleman called and asked to talk to Doug. Jim said he was Doug's manager and the gentleman would have to talk to him first, but the man insisted on talking directly to Doug and finally Jim put him through to Doug. The man offered to sell Doug an illusion which would enable him to levitate across the English Channel, along with his wife Debbie, and promised (it went without saying) that this would make him the most famous magician in the world. Doug and Debbie proceeded to have numerous chats with the fellow and developed a friendship with him. The gentleman knew all kinds of things which he couldn't possibly have known except through some siddhi. He would tell Doug that certain things were going to happen in his life, and then they would. Often he would say that certain people were going to be in Doug's audience that evening, and they were. One time he told Doug that his show that evening might not go on because Doug was going to get a bad stomach flu, but that Swami Satchitananda was going to be in the audience that evening, and that he would heal him. That's what ended up happening. I'm not sure how long this phone friendship developed, but finally Doug was ready to go out to some rural area of Arizona to meet the guy and have a demonstration of the promised ability to fly across the English Channel. Doug was meeting with MMY in DC along with Jim Bagnola and John Hagelin. The three of them were going to fly out and as the meeting went on, they became more and more desperate to leave for the airport so as not to miss their flight. Every time they mentioned it to MMY, he put them off, and finally told them they shouldn't go. Doug asked why and MMY said that the man they were going to meet was not a good man. Doug protested that he had become a friend and that Doug trusted him. MMY kept arguing his point of view and Doug his. Finally, Doug said Maharishi, you don't understand. MMY paused and said, We don't know what planet this man is from. He has a Master in Tibet. If you go out there, I'll never see you again. I don't want you to go. So they didn't go. Afterwards, Doug tried to contact the guy, but the number he had so often called was disconnected. He never heard from him again. Rick Archer President ** I always thought that Doug was the reincarnation of Houdini (stage name of Erich Weisz/Weiss), who said that he would signal if he were to come back -- you can make the name Houdini (well, almost) with the letters from Henning's name Dou Hni (although this is not the signal that Houdini said he would send -- see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Houdini Death). Henning had real shaky health, and was a hypochondriac to boot -- if you mentioned the word pneumothorax (spontaneous collapse of the lungs, which Henning was susceptible to), he would turn pale and nearly faint. Glad MMY saved his soul, even if Henning's health karma was too negative to save this reincarnation's body from early death.
[FairfieldLife] Confused aboiut Swami-G (was Re: Guru Dev's deathbed instructions to Maharishi)
Hello again and Namaste, It 's so nice to see you. OK,I will stop right there, I was about to start up all over again. I didn't know about this 35 rule until well into posting- just heard about it I think 2 days ago. So, it is starting on zero at midnight tonight? You have a counter running for each poster? Sorry about that group, I simply didnt know, so may as well get that 39th in before we come home to 0. Actually is that just what we are all doing- getting that final Maya played out until 0 ? I picked my Diksha name out of a bowl and it came out to be Tanmay- looks like that TM for short- how funny. I really am laughing my ass off frequently for no particular reason- just some phase. May as well share current events with all my enthusiatic supporters. Swami G just met with Swami Nityananda in Los Angeles. Swami G said he is realized. They had a very nice meeting and will meet again. He has built an enormas world wide organization in the last 4 years. Swami G said he is very genuine. I will ask Swami G if I can post his letter which fills in all the endeavers he is undertaking such as updating the sanyas order and inspiring an improvement in the way the sayasis are behaving in Rishikesh. Also, he is facilitating more women coming in as sanaysi's. He can be found in Youtube Tanmay
Re: [FairfieldLife] Confused aboiut Swami-G (was Re: Guru Dev's deathbed instructions to Maharishi)
On Jun 15, 2007, at 5:01 PM, qntmpkt wrote: ---G's symptoms of being on the path: Blue Light Just turn on your TV. Seeing of Auras That too. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Confused aboiut Swami-G (was Re: Guru Dev's deathbed instructions to Maharishi)
On Jun 15, 2007, at 9:57 PM, Rick Archer wrote: I reset the count every Friday at midnight Central Time. If you've written more than 35 do you turn into a pumpkin? Sal
RE: [FairfieldLife] Confused aboiut Swami-G (was Re: Guru Dev's deathbed instructions to Maharishi)
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sal Sunshine Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 10:59 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Confused aboiut Swami-G (was Re: Guru Dev's deathbed instructions to Maharishi) On Jun 15, 2007, at 9:57 PM, Rick Archer wrote: I reset the count every Friday at midnight Central Time. If you've written more than 35 do you turn into a pumpkin? If people willfully violate the rule I put them on moderated status. I figured Ron didn’t know about it or understand the reason for it. I presume he’ll stick to 35 from now on. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.17/850 - Release Date: 6/15/2007 11:31 AM
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting story about Doug Henning
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of bob_brigante Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 10:29 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting story about Doug Henning I always thought that Doug was the reincarnation of Houdini (stage name of Erich Weisz/Weiss), who said that he would signal if he were to come back -- you can make the name Houdini (well, almost) with the letters from Henning's name Dou Hni (although this is not the signal that Houdini said he would send -- see HYPERLINK http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Houdinihttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Har ry_Houdini Death). I recall Doug telling a story about going to the home of Houdini’s niece or granddaughter and convincing her to give him Houdini’s private notebooks, which she had refused to give anyone else. Henning had real shaky health, and was a hypochondriac to boot -- if you mentioned the word pneumothorax (spontaneous collapse of the lungs, which Henning was susceptible to), he would turn pale and nearly faint. Glad MMY saved his soul, How do you know he did? What does it mean to have one’s soul saved? Would Doug’s soul have been lost if he hadn’t met MMY? even if Henning's health karma was too negative to save this reincarnation's body from early death. He was always delicate. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.17/850 - Release Date: 6/15/2007 11:31 AM
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting story about Doug Henning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone told me this story today, as told to him by Jim Bagnola. When Doug was doing The Magic Show on Broadway, he often got calls from people wanting to sell him magic tricks or illusions. This is common with magicians, especially well-known ones. His manager, Jim Bagnola, fielded the calls. One time an older gentleman called and asked to talk to Doug. Jim said he was Doug's manager and the gentleman would have to talk to him first, but the man insisted on talking directly to Doug and finally Jim put him through to Doug. The man offered to sell Doug an illusion which would enable him to levitate across the English Channel, along with his wife Debbie, and promised (it went without saying) that this would make him the most famous magician in the world. Something is off kilter to the story. Doug married Debbie in 1981 but he did the Magic Show on Broadway for four and a half years starting in 1974. Doug and Debbie proceeded to have numerous chats with the fellow and developed a friendship with him. The gentleman knew all kinds of things which he couldn't possibly have known except through some siddhi. He would tell Doug that certain things were going to happen in his life, and then they would. Often he would say that certain people were going to be in Doug's audience that evening, and they were. One time he told Doug that his show that evening might not go on because Doug was going to get a bad stomach flu, but that Swami Satchitananda was going to be in the audience that evening, and that he would heal him. That's what ended up happening. I'm not sure how long this phone friendship developed, but finally Doug was ready to go out to some rural area of Arizona to meet the guy and have a demonstration of the promised ability to fly across the English Channel. Doug was meeting with MMY in DC along with Jim Bagnola and John Hagelin. The three of them were going to fly out and as the meeting went on, they became more and more desperate to leave for the airport so as not to miss their flight. Every time they mentioned it to MMY, he put them off, and finally told them they shouldn't go. Doug asked why and MMY said that the man they were going to meet was not a good man. Doug protested that he had become a friend and that Doug trusted him. MMY kept arguing his point of view and Doug his. Finally, Doug said Maharishi, you don't understand. MMY paused and said, We don't know what planet this man is from. He has a Master in Tibet. If you go out there, I'll never see you again. I don't want you to go. So they didn't go. Afterwards, Doug tried to contact the guy, but the number he had so often called was disconnected. He never heard from him again. Rick Archer President SearchSummit HYPERLINK http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py? Pyt=Tmapaddr=1108+S.+B+St.csz=Fairfield% 2C+IA+52556-3805country=us \n1108 S. B St. Fairfield, IA 52556-3805 HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: fax: Skype ID: HYPERLINK http://www.plaxo.com/click_to_call?src=jj_signatureTo=641-472- 9336Email=r [EMAIL PROTECTED] \n641-472-9336 914-470-9336 Rick_Archer HYPERLINK https://www.plaxo.com/add_me? u=25769982909v0=356483k0=1251699766v1=35648 4k1=804482755src=client_sig_212_1_card_joininvite=1 \nAlways have my latest info HYPERLINK http://www.plaxo.com/signature? src=client_sig_212_1_card_sig \nWant a signature like this? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.17/850 - Release Date: 6/15/2007 11:31 AM
[FairfieldLife] Eminent domain controversy in VC
http://www.ottumwacourier.com/local/local_story_166223555.html There's another wrinkle in the spat. The farm isn't within city limits. It lies just to the northwest of the existing city. City officials say they can condemn the farm and use eminent domain to make the park. The Palms say the city's condemnation power ends at its city limits. Both sides have some legal ground from which to argue. Iowa law allows condemnation outside of city limits in some circumstances. Cities may use eminent domain to acquire property for utilities, municipal airports, landfills and waste disposal facilities. The law changed in 2006, according to the Iowa Attorney General's office. Iowa code previously said only that a city could acquire ground outside city limits in the same manner as land within limits.
