--- In [email protected], "Ron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Thus, Swami g's, seeming reliance on swamihood as being THE criteria > for being an effective teacher, seem odd. > > TANMAY: I DONT KNOW IF YOU WATCHED THE VIDEOS OF SWAMI G UNDER > GURUSWAMIG IN YOUTUBE BUT IT WOULD EXPLAIN THINGS. SWAMI G DIDN'T SEEK > BEING A GURU, BUT RATHER PREFERED ENJOYING THE REALIZED STATE. HER > GURU COMMISSIONED HER TO BE A GURU AND THEN CHARGED HER WITH THE > THINGS TO DO > > THIS IS HOW IT WORKS. IT WAS AFTER HER GURU CONFIRMED THE REALIZATION, > THAT THIS WAS ASSIGNED. > > And what is a guru? vs. a teacher. > > TANMAY: A SAT GURU IS A REALIZED BEING CAPABLE OF GUIDING OTHERS TO > UNFOLD REALIZATION. IT IS A MATTER OF REMOVING THE COVERINGS FOR A > GURU IS WHAT YOU ARE BUT WITHOUT THE COVERINGS. > > Can someone be a legitimate hatha > yoga teacher and not be a Guru / swami / ordained by his/her Guru to > be a Guru? > > TANMAY: THERE ARE MANY YOGA TEACHERS WITH THEIR CERTIFICATIONS. ONE OF > SWAMI G'S VIDEOS IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN KUNDALINI YOGA AND THE > KUNDALINI PATH. THERE IS A WOMAN THAT JUST CONTACTED SWAMI G WHO IS A > KUNDALNI YOGA INSTRUCTOR. THE KUNDALNI AWAKENED FOR HER AND SHE IS IN > A SEMI PANIC NOT KNOWING WHAT TO DO. > > FEW HAVE THE ABILITY TO GUIDE ONE THAT IS IN THE MIDST OF A KUNDALINI > AWAKENING, YET THERE ARE MANY WAYS THAT THE KUNDALNI CAN AWAKEN. SOME > OF THEM INCLUDE TAKING A KUNDALINI CLASS OR REIKI. IF IT DOES AWAKEN, > THE ONES WHO HAVE BEEN THE CATALYST FOR THIS TO HAPPEN ARE CLUELESS IN > HOW TO GUIDE. > > IT REQUIRES ONE WHO HAS TRAVERSED THE WHOLE OF THE KUNDDALNI JOURNEY > FOR START TO REALIZATION ACORDING TO SWAMI G. MY EXPERIENCE CONFIRMS > WHAT SWAMI G IS SAYING. SHE KNEW EXACTLY WHAT WAS TAKING PLACE AND > WHEN. THOSE NOT IN THE MIDST OF THE KUNDALINI JOURNEY OR NOT A SAT > GURU THAT IS FAMILIAR WITH THIS MAY THINK THIS IS A STORY BEING MADE > UP, WHEREAS FOR ME, MY EXPERIECES TELL ME WHAT SWAMI G IS AND WHAT THE > ABILITIES ARE TO GUIDE AND BRING ONE FORWARD RAPIDLY IN THE DIRECTION > OF UNFOLDING REALIZATION > > FROM The same for a meditation teacher? > > I SUGGESTED THE TWO MOST IMPORTANT THINGS FOR ONE THAT WANTS > ENLIGHTENMENT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE IS 1. FIND A SAT GURU 2.WORK IN A > ONE TO ONE RELATIONSHIP. WHY SAT GURU AND NOT A GURU OR MEDITATION > TEACHER? SWAMI G SAID THE TEACHER CAN ONLY TAKE YOU AS FAR AS THEY > THEMSELVES ARE. WHY ONE TO ONE? I HAVE SEEN LOTS OF CONFUSION IN TM, > KALKI, MUKTANANDA, ADI DA, SRI SRI RAVI SHANKAR- A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT > THINGS- THE PEOPLE THOUGHT THEY WERE ACCESSING DEEPER LEVELS THAN WHAT > WAS TAKING PLACE, OR THEIR UNDERSTANDING WERE SIMPLY IN THE DARK. > > I SEE IN WORKING ONE TO ONE HOW THIS IS CLEARED UP. THE SAT GURU KNOWS > WHERE YOU ARE AT, AND KNOWS HOW YOU PROCESS WHAT IS GIVEN, AND THEN IS > ABLE TO GUIDE ON THIS BASIS. EACH HAS IT'S OWN GUIDANCE ACCORDING TO > WHAT IS NEEDED. > > IN ANOTHER OF YOUR POSTS, YOU ARE ASKING WHY NOT JESUS, BUDDA, ETC? > GURU IS NOT THE PERSONA, IT IS ONE, SO YES, THE PHYSICAL BODY, MIND, > WHEN THESE ARE GONE, WHAT IS LEFT, THIS IS BEING, THIS IS WHAT YOU > ARE, WHAT THE GURU IS, AND WHAT IS, IT IS THE ETERNAL REALITY, THIS IS > SWAMI G'S GENERAL POINTS > > SO, WHEN PEOPLE ARE HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH GURU DEV, EXPERIENCING > GURU DEV- WHAT IS THIS? WHAT IS THE SIGNIFICANC? HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH > THIS? WHY DOES IT HAPPEN? IT IS HIGHLY ADVANTAFEOUS FOR ONE'S > UNFOLDMENT AS A SADAKA ON THE PATH, TO DEAL WITH THINGS WITH THE GURU > ONE TO ONE- BE VERY CLEAR WHAT IS GOING ON. THIS MAY SIMPLY MEAN > REPORTING IN, TELLING THE GURU WHAT TOOK PLACE. MAYBE THE GURU DOESNT > SAY ANYTHING, BUT IF IT IS A SAT GURU, SHATIPAT IS ON GOING, > TRANSMISSION IS ON GOING. > > IT IS NOT THE GURU DOING ANYTHING, IT IS MATTER OF OCCURANCE, IT > HAPPENS ALONG THE WAY- PHENOMINA OCCURS ALONG THE WAY- MAYBE WE SAY > THESE ARE SIGN POSTS ALONG THE WAY. WITHOUT THE GURU ONE TO ONE, I > HAVE SEEN PEOPLE THINK THESE SIGN POSTS WERE SOMETHING OTHER THAN WHAT > THEY ARE, SUCH AS ENLIGHTENMENT OR STAGES OF ENLIGHTENMENT.
Yesterday you claimed to have given up this list, presumably because too many here posessed enough knowledge to see through your rethoric... and now you continue ! Don't you see that it is laughable for a socalled Guru to denonce someone for having been a secretary or wearing white ?
