[FairfieldLife] Re: Fooling people with meditation research, TMO-style.

2008-03-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, people can read both the book excerpt AND the 2004 study by Travis et al. via the two urls above and come to their own conclusions. Its not necessary to posture at all. Gotta praise Lawson for his stance in this

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religion as Opium

2008-03-03 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity ruthsimplicity@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity ruthsimplicity@ wrote: Serious seizure disorder with control issues? I would not

[FairfieldLife] Jack and Hill

2008-03-03 Thread TurquoiseB
Jack Nicholson backs Hillary Clinton. Sorta. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mOa3sXjqE4

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religion as Opium

2008-03-03 Thread Irmeli Mattsson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Stu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson Irmeli.Mattsson@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Stu buttsplicer@ wrote: Its a fantastic tool to understanding how people come to religion. Why

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fooling people with meditation research, TMO-style.

2008-03-03 Thread Vaj
On Mar 2, 2008, at 7:24 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 2, 2008, at 6:17 PM, authfriend wrote: When someone with an agenda makes obviously factually inaccurate statements, as Chopra has and as the Buddhist

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fooling people with meditation research, TMO-style.

2008-03-03 Thread Vaj
On Mar 2, 2008, at 10:14 PM, sparaig wrote: Dismissing 20 years of research doesn't make someone world class regardless of their credentials elsewhere. Davidson is touted as the head guy in charge of the Dali Lama's project to do research on Buddhist meditation. That doesn't make him a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fooling people with meditation research, TMO-style.

2008-03-03 Thread Vaj
On Mar 3, 2008, at 3:12 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, people can read both the book excerpt AND the 2004 study by Travis et al. via the two urls above and come to their own conclusions. Its not necessary to posture at

[FairfieldLife] This Is Your Brain On Happiness :-)

2008-03-03 Thread Vaj
http://psyphz.psych.wisc.edu/web/News/OprahMar2008.pdf March 2008 Oprah Magazine article This is Your Brain on Happiness. with Dr. Richard Davidson.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Increased IA Grant Support

2008-03-03 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Volunteers Needed! invincibleamerica.org Invincible America Announcing: By decree of the Raja, each meditating household shall furnish towards the defense of the Rajastan of Global Peace one family member vedic flyer immediately. Times dictate that there can be no deferment.

[FairfieldLife] Is this a put-on?

2008-03-03 Thread shempmcgurk
Queens Building Uses 'Mosquito' To Quiet Teens Emits High-Pitched Sound Only Audible To Youth Reporting Tamsen Fadal QUEENS (CBS) ¯ Teenagers who hang out inside one apartment building in Jamaica, Queens are getting an earful these days. A new security device called 'The Mosquito' has been

[FairfieldLife] Ferrari: some nice pics and video from India?

2008-03-03 Thread cardemaister
http://www.ferrariworld.com/fwe/events/indianTour/index.jsp?lang=en

[FairfieldLife] Re:The Language of Autism

2008-03-03 Thread Samuel Gravina
I've met this woman. She gave a talk at MIT. I also have an autistic daughter. My first reaction when seeing the video is that something fake is happening here. The fakeness is all on the part of Ms. Baggs. As she says in the article she made it as a political statement. I think of

Irmeli: (Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion as Opium)

2008-03-03 Thread Hagen J. Holtz
Irmeli said: Practically every time they (the nuslims) publicly say something, they make themselves just ridiculous, and show that their capacity to formal operational thinking, or abstract conceptual thinking, is poor. They combine categories in a wrong way all the time. And this is not about

Re: [FairfieldLife] Is this a put-on?

2008-03-03 Thread Vaj
No I actually saw a TV news segment on this. It's being used a good bit in Britain to remove loitering teenagers. On Mar 3, 2008, at 8:30 AM, shempmcgurk wrote: Queens Building Uses 'Mosquito' To Quiet Teens Emits High-Pitched Sound Only Audible To Youth Reporting Tamsen Fadal QUEENS (CBS)

Irmeli: (Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion as Opium)

2008-03-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hagen J. Holtz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Irmeli said: Practically every time they (the nuslims) publicly say something, they make themselves just ridiculous, and show that their capacity to formal operational thinking, or abstract conceptual

[FairfieldLife] Re: Story from Ben Collins

2008-03-03 Thread gandalfaragorn
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there was this look on his face that was like Mahesh Yogi can get these westerners to do 40 years of meditation and how hard that is to accomplish here in India. Whatis the caloric intake of the average

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fooling people with meditation research, TMO-style.

2008-03-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 2, 2008, at 7:24 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: snip Judy, scientists refuted much what had been claimed on TM way back in the 80's--with good science and it

Irmeli: (Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion as Opium)

2008-03-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The parallel I would draw is to those who hold to Vedic ideals so strongly that they would insist on maintaining the caste system, even in a country that not only doesn't believe in it, but has made some of its

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fooling people with meditation research, TMO-style.

2008-03-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I also don't feel they dismissed 20 years of research, they merely put it into a scientific perspective and showed the defects therein. No, Vaj, they didn't report on it *at all*.

Re: Irmeli: (Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion as Opium)

2008-03-03 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Mar 3, 2008, at 8:22 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: The cases I'm aware of were all *lost* by those hoping to uphold their right to pursue the caste system in America, but they continued to do it after paying the first fine. My friends in New York who have to do business with these people say that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fooling people with meditation research, TMO-style.

2008-03-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: Well, people can read both the book excerpt AND the 2004 study by Travis et al. via the two urls above and come to their own conclusions. Its not

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religion as Opium

2008-03-03 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity ruthsimplicity@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity ruthsimplicity@ wrote: Serious seizure disorder with control issues? I would not be

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Language of Autism

2008-03-03 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mind-bending article in Wired about autistic people and researchers of autism who are challenging the disease model of autism and suggesting that autistic people aren't damaged, aren't dysfunctional, just different.

[FairfieldLife] Re: This Is Your Brain On Happiness :-)

2008-03-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://psyphz.psych.wisc.edu/web/News/OprahMar2008.pdf March 2008 Oprah Magazine article This is Your Brain on Happiness. with Dr. Richard Davidson. Same guy who did the study Lawson and Vaj and I have been discussing.

[FairfieldLife] the cure for cancer-hemp oil

2008-03-03 Thread steven klayman
www.youtube.com/chrychek

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Corrections to Dr Chopra's article on The Maharishi Years - the Untold Stor

2008-03-03 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of vlodrop108 Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 5:20 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Corrections to Dr Chopra's article on The Maharishi Years - the Untold Stor --- Rick Archer [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Across The Universe

2008-03-03 Thread Duveyoung
I watched Across The Universe, last night, and after having been massively disappointed by the Las Vegas Cirque du Soleil LOVE production at $150 a ticket, I was extraordinarily uplifted by Across The Universe for a $2.95 rental fee. It was everything I didn't get from LOVE. YMMV, but I was

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fooling people with meditation research, TMO-style.

2008-03-03 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity ruthsimplicity@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Mar 2, 2008, at 6:34 PM, sparaig wrote: snip Likewise,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: This Is Your Brain On Happiness :-)

2008-03-03 Thread Vaj
On Mar 3, 2008, at 9:51 AM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://psyphz.psych.wisc.edu/web/News/OprahMar2008.pdf March 2008 Oprah Magazine article This is Your Brain on Happiness. with Dr. Richard Davidson. Same guy who did the study

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reunion

2008-03-03 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have a Kleenex handy; this is heartwarming. These two guys raised a lion pup, then had to release him into the wild when he got too big. They came to look for him a year later and...

[FairfieldLife] Nice post from Irmeli, a long-time member

2008-03-03 Thread Rick Archer
http://pods.gaia.com/ii/discussions/view/145134 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.3/1307 - Release Date: 3/2/2008 3:59 PM

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fooling people with meditation research, TMO-style.

2008-03-03 Thread Vaj
On Mar 3, 2008, at 10:16 AM, ruthsimplicity wrote: Why do you want to argue with me? I missed the journal reference, that is all. Judy kindly gave it to me right away. Earth shattering? You think that anything in all the studies is earth shattering? Like what? Brain wave coherence?

[FairfieldLife] GOP frets over Democratic fundraising

2008-03-03 Thread do.rflex
For Republicans, watching Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama fight for supremacy in fundraising is not just a spectator sport. It is a look into the future, and the GOP isn't cheering. Obama and Clinton together raked in as much as seven times as much cash in February as John McCain, the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fooling people with meditation research, TMO-style.

2008-03-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 3, 2008, at 10:16 AM, ruthsimplicity wrote: snip You know, I am sick of all the arguing. I would have become a lawyer if I thought the best way to find truth was through argument. I am going to read what Judy and

[FairfieldLife] Re: This Is Your Brain On Happiness :-)

2008-03-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 3, 2008, at 9:51 AM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: http://psyphz.psych.wisc.edu/web/News/OprahMar2008.pdf March 2008 Oprah Magazine article This is Your

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is this a put-on?

2008-03-03 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No I actually saw a TV news segment on this. It's being used a good bit in Britain to remove loitering teenagers. I had no idea that human teenagers, like dogs, hear different frequencies than adult humans. I guess that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fooling people with meditation research, TMO-style.

2008-03-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 3, 2008, at 10:48 AM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Mar 3, 2008, at 10:16 AM, ruthsimplicity wrote: snip You know, I am sick of all the arguing. I would

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fooling people with meditation research, TMO-style.

2008-03-03 Thread Vaj
On Mar 3, 2008, at 10:48 AM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 3, 2008, at 10:16 AM, ruthsimplicity wrote: snip You know, I am sick of all the arguing. I would have become a lawyer if I thought the best way to find truth was

[FairfieldLife] Re: Story from Ben Collins

2008-03-03 Thread Duveyoung
About two BILLION people on Earth live on ONE dollar a day. If we could get those folks to TWO dollars a day, death of children dramatically subsides. Do any of us here think we can enter the mindset of living in such poverty? I can't throw a stone at any of them for almost any of their sins --

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: This Is Your Brain On Happiness :-)

2008-03-03 Thread Vaj
On Mar 3, 2008, at 10:59 AM, authfriend wrote: Exactly why I posted it. Not only does he not work for a Buddhist institution, he does not benefit financially from people learning to meditate (done for free). Non sequitur. He told the writer that the Dalai Lama's recommendation to study

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fooling people with meditation research, TMO-style.

2008-03-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip As far as I'm concerned the authors of this other paper (from the Cambridge Handbook of Consciousness), which was discussed originally last spring IIRC, did a great job of covering TM and other research, it's good points

[FairfieldLife] Re: This Is Your Brain On Happiness :-)

2008-03-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 3, 2008, at 10:59 AM, authfriend wrote: Exactly why I posted it. Not only does he not work for a Buddhist institution, he does not benefit financially from people learning to meditate (done for free). Non

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fooling people with meditation research, TMO-style.

2008-03-03 Thread Vaj
On Mar 3, 2008, at 11:05 AM, authfriend wrote: As you know but are pretending not to, I'm referring to the three world-class researchers who wrote the study we've been discussing here: Antoine Lutz, John D. Dunne, and Richard J. Davidson. Actually the research I was originally referring to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Story from Ben Collins

2008-03-03 Thread Larry
is this thread based on our interpretation of one fella's interpretation of another fella's look? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: About two BILLION people on Earth live on ONE dollar a day. If we could get those folks to TWO dollars a day, death of

Re: Irmeli: (Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion as Opium)

2008-03-03 Thread Angela Mailander
You must have some very different Muslims in Europe than the ones I have met here. In 1982 I taught a very unusual class of ESL at Kent State University. All 25 guys from Muslim and Arabic speaking countries. They were an amazing bunch of young gentlemen, and the only classes I've ever taught

Angela: (Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion as Opium)

2008-03-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip As for mental scientists making laws about which religious practices are OK and which aren't --I find that concept very scary. Just look at the argument recently between Judy and Vaj. Would you trust either

Re: Angela: (Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion as Opium)

2008-03-03 Thread Angela Mailander
Please accept my apologies. I'm glad to hear you'd fight such laws. a --- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip As for mental scientists making laws about which religious practices are OK and which

[FairfieldLife] Re: Across The Universe

2008-03-03 Thread curtisdeltablues
Hey Edg, I forgot to thank you for the heads up on the movie Once. I really enjoyed it and felt very in the know when I saw them win at the Academy Awards. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I watched Across The Universe, last night, and after having

Re: Angela: (Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion as Opium)

2008-03-03 Thread Angela Mailander
I'm glad you are a gentleman, Hagen. You are certainly right about some things. It is true that I take an irritatingly dim view of any spiritual movement insofar as its future is concerned. I've yet to see one that didn't degenerate into a religion, and, as such, didn't try to repress the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion as Opium

2008-03-03 Thread Vaj
On Mar 2, 2008, at 10:18 PM, sparaig wrote: The objection isn't that TM produces epileptic-like signs, because the signs included those that might be found in mystics,creative people, etc., everywhere, with or without epilepsy. The objection was the conclusion that such signs meant that

Angela: (Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion as Opium)

2008-03-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please accept my apologies. I'm glad to hear you'd fight such laws. a Accepted, thank you. --- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religion as Opium

2008-03-03 Thread Stu
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with this. However I have found it helpful for myself to write down my ideas about certain issues, and let others on these forums criticize those ideas. But discussions in which the participants don't

Irmeli: (Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion as Opium)

2008-03-03 Thread Stu
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You must have some very different Muslims in Europe than the ones I have met here. In 1982 I taught a very unusual class of ESL at Kent State University. All 25 guys from Muslim and Arabic speaking countries.

[FairfieldLife] Will the Spirit of MMY Descend on the Rajahs of TMO?

2008-03-03 Thread John
To All: This time period after the death of MMY leaves the TMO in a situation of mourning and doubt. As in the other religions or movements, there appears to be time of resurgence of their teachers objectives after a some time (after 40 days perhaps of MMY's death). Will there be a

Irmeli: (Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion as Opium)

2008-03-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Stu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander mailander111@ wrote: You must have some very different Muslims in Europe than the ones I have met here. In 1982 I taught a very unusual class of ESL at Kent

Re: [FairfieldLife] Will the Spirit of MMY Descend on the Rajahs of TMO?

2008-03-03 Thread Kirk
We have already speculated ad nauseum for the last five years. Of course finding such speculation amongst the millions of posts would be difficult. For many of us Maharishi died many years ago. His physical death was but some sort of final dying. This should be obvious since those closest to

[FairfieldLife] Re: This Is Your Brain On Happiness :-)

2008-03-03 Thread Stu
Davidson's research precedes his meeting the Dalai Lama. The Dalai Lama discovered Davidson and helped him promotes some of his research findings. There was quite a stir a few years ago when the Dalai Lama was invited to speak at a neuro-psych conference. The form of meditation that Davidson

[FairfieldLife] Health benefits of squalene

2008-03-03 Thread yifuxero
http://www.tinyurl.com/36vkwb Squalene Q and A -- -- 1. What is Squalene? 2. What are free radicals? 3. How do free radicals damage the cell? 4. Why is there a need to protect our cells? 5. What are isoprenoids? 6.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion as Opium

2008-03-03 Thread Bhairitu
Vaj wrote: On Mar 2, 2008, at 10:18 PM, sparaig wrote: The objection isn't that TM produces epileptic-like signs, because the signs included those that might be found in mystics,creative people, etc., everywhere, with or without epilepsy. The objection was the conclusion that such signs

Re: Irmeli: (Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion as Opium)

2008-03-03 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Stu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander mailander111@ wrote: You must have some very different Muslims in Europe than the ones I have met here. In 1982 I taught a very unusual

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Will the Spirit of MMY Descend on the Rajahs of TMO?

2008-03-03 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of abutilon108 Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 2:20 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Will the Spirit of MMY Descend on the Rajahs of TMO? As for MMY's spirit descending on the Rajahs,

Re: Irmeli: (Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion as Opium)

2008-03-03 Thread Angela Mailander
Well, it's certainly possible that some of my very nice students later became vicious Muslim hit men, but the guys I still correspond with are intelligent and spiritual men with families. And they do not believe, for example, that all Americans are as evil as the Blackwater guys seem to be. a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Will the Spirit of MMY Descend on the Rajahs of TMO?

2008-03-03 Thread abutilon108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My guess is there will be a resurgence for some teachers and some will drift away. Chances are there will be some divisions as no one will be recognized as the sole, supreme keeper of truth. I imagine the movement won't end,

[FairfieldLife] Buffett disagrees with Zell

2008-03-03 Thread Bhairitu
Billionaire Warren Buffett said Monday that the U.S. economy is essentially in a recession even if it hasn't met the technical definition of one yet. More: http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Buffet_US_essentially_in_recession_0303.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Will the Spirit of MMY Descend on the Rajahs of TMO?

2008-03-03 Thread Kirk
spirit descending on the Rajahs, sounds like the Holy Spirit and the disciples. I imagine some will feel that some such phenomenon has taken place, or already has. Many do feel this. -Correction. Many felt this for a period. Whether the feeling continues is debateable.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Will the Spirit of MMY Descend on the Rajahs of TMO?

2008-03-03 Thread Kirk
Not that anyone will believe or needs to believe, but here it is. I had a dream before M bought it. Not that dreams mean anything more than regular thoughts. But here goes. Maharishi was a very very long thin waterfall, and then he shifted to a short fat waterfall, and then that was it.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Will the Spirit of MMY Descend on the Rajahs of TMO?

2008-03-03 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have already speculated ad nauseum for the last five years. SNIP ' This should be obvious since those closest to him look like spooks Get a checking. Your eyesight would improove.

[FairfieldLife] Rolling Stone Magazine Article on MMY

2008-03-03 Thread nsm108
Has anyone seen the article on MMY's passing in the current Rolling Stone magazine? It was quite positive, including the story of how the Doors met at a TM introductory lecture and Yoko Ono saying that if John was alive he would have probably reconciled with Maharishi due to all of his good

Re: [FairfieldLife] Rolling Stone Magazine Article on MMY

2008-03-03 Thread Kirk
All of who's good work in the world? - Original Message - From: nsm108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 2:58 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Rolling Stone Magazine Article on MMY Has anyone seen the article on MMY's passing in the current

[FairfieldLife] Re: Story from Ben Collins

2008-03-03 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: About two BILLION people on Earth live on ONE dollar a day. If we could get those folks to TWO dollars a day, death of children dramatically subsides. Do any of us here think we can enter the mindset of living in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rolling Stone Magazine Article on MMY

2008-03-03 Thread nsm108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All of who's good work in the world? Maharishi's good work in the world... - Original Message - From: nsm108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 2:58 PM Subject:

[FairfieldLife] Question about survey

2008-03-03 Thread Angela Mailander
It occurs to me to ask about the survey that allegedly shows that most Muslims believe in murder. Who did the survey? Were they impartial with regard to our current war with the Muslim world? Was the fact that we are at war with these people in any way allowed for? I mean if this was a survey

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rolling Stone Magazine Article on MMY

2008-03-03 Thread Kirk
It certainly wasn't charitable work. It's also quite certain that it was less selfless than the average life of a typical yogi in India. We could discuss now about skimming hundreds of millions of dollars out of the country, or wait until you're ready. Maybe there is ome objective thing

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Will the Spirit of MMY Descend on the Rajahs of TMO?

2008-03-03 Thread Kirk
This should be obvious since those closest to him look like spooks Get a checking. Your eyesight would improove. What was that psychorodent? Are you sniveling again while you knaw at another post? Try flossing and maybe your spelking wilt impoove.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religion as Opium

2008-03-03 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have watched both. I am not sure I loved either. My wife liked Deadwood. I thought it was okay, simply because I like swearing. snip if you like swearing, you'll enjoy In Bruges, a really dark comedy about hitmen in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question about survey

2008-03-03 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It occurs to me to ask about the survey that allegedly shows that most Muslims believe in murder. Who did the survey? Were they impartial with regard to our current war with the Muslim world? Was the fact that

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rolling Stone Magazine Article on MMY

2008-03-03 Thread Vaj
On Mar 3, 2008, at 4:12 PM, nsm108 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All of who's good work in the world? Maharishi's good work in the world... Really? Well that certainly does sound like an interesting story.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Will the Spirit of MMY Descend on the Rajahs of TMO?

2008-03-03 Thread Kirk
Hey, I'm sorry I said that . You got me that time. Really. Peace. - Original Message - From: nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 2:52 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Will the Spirit of MMY Descend on the Rajahs of TMO? --- In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion as Opium

2008-03-03 Thread Kirk
Oh cool. I'll check it out. - Original Message - From: sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 3:40 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion as Opium --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unity Consciousness?

2008-03-03 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Well, actually, dual-awareness originated from non-dual awareness, according to MMY's Vedic Cosmology... I would instead say that dual-awareness originated from undifferentiated awareness, like waking up from sleep,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question about survey

2008-03-03 Thread Angela Mailander
thanks. I kind of suspected, based on my friendship with four excellent Muslim men, that human beings were human beings the world over. --- do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It occurs to me to ask about

[FairfieldLife] In Bruges [was Re: Religion as Opium]

2008-03-03 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh cool. I'll check it out. great-- I'd be interested to know what you think.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rolling Stone Magazine Article on MMY

2008-03-03 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 3, 2008, at 4:12 PM, nsm108 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernhardt@ wrote: All of who's good work in the world? Maharishi's good work in the world... Really? Well that

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: This Is Your Brain On Happiness :-)

2008-03-03 Thread Vaj
On Mar 3, 2008, at 3:03 PM, Stu wrote: Davidson's research precedes his meeting the Dalai Lama. The Dalai Lama discovered Davidson and helped him promotes some of his research findings. There was quite a stir a few years ago when the Dalai Lama was invited to speak at a neuro-psych

Re: Angela: (Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion as Opium)

2008-03-03 Thread Hagen J. Holtz
Angela, I again have to confess that I had not been having the time to follow the discussion between Judy and Vaj. Anyhow it is diffcult for me to keep pace with the flood of contributions in this list, and I sometimes get smitten by the indefinite feeling that I would miss a lot, which last

[FairfieldLife] Gaza and Israel are on the brink of war

2008-03-03 Thread nablusoss1008
Dear friends, Gaza and Israel are on the brink of all-out war - before it's too late, let's raise a massive global outcry for a ceasefire to stop the violence and protect civilians: Sign the Emergency Petition The Gaza-Israel crisis is out of control. It's come to this: bloody full-scale

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rolling Stone Magazine Article on MMY

2008-03-03 Thread Kirk
Really? Well that certainly does sound like an interesting story. depends on whose world we're talking about, doesn't it? obviously in your world, no such thing has occurred. ---Well, really? His work, or other's work? He didn't do anything alone. And finally, what did he do? As based in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rolling Stone Magazine Article on MMY

2008-03-03 Thread Vaj
On Mar 3, 2008, at 4:52 PM, sandiego108 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 3, 2008, at 4:12 PM, nsm108 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernhardt@ wrote: All of who's good work in the world? Maharishi's good

[FairfieldLife] Why McWar wants Obama to win nomination

2008-03-03 Thread bob_brigante
Indeed, every criticism Clinton has made of Obama – he lacks experience, he is all flourish and no substance, he gives shoot-from- the-hip answers to serious questions – falls into McCain's lap, ready for instant use in the general election. But, unfortunately for Obama, the reverse is not

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rolling Stone Magazine Article on MMY

2008-03-03 Thread Kirk
Yeah I liked the story of the poor Indians he talked into shunning allopathic treatment, in lieu of his Ayurvedic treatments, promising to save their lives. Then when they died, he sent money collectors to collect on the money from the survivors. Unfortunately that's the story of many

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rolling Stone Magazine Article on MMY

2008-03-03 Thread Vaj
Yeah I'd heard about this. It's amazing what people will believe. We'll see more fraudulent lamas like this, I have no doubt. It is important people speak out and spread the word when this happens. On Mar 3, 2008, at 5:16 PM, Kirk wrote: Yeah I liked the story of the poor Indians he talked

Re: Angela: (Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion as Opium)

2008-03-03 Thread Angela Mailander
Hagen, there was some discussion about the laws of Manu in this forum some time back, and, as I recall, they were absurd and draconian in the extreme. But let's let that pass. I am not an anarchist and I get your point. Anagoge, in my usage of the term, is language that is literal and

[FairfieldLife] Good Gurus

2008-03-03 Thread Kirk
These are good gurus. They have done much to divest India of prejudice to women http://www.devipuram.com/home.php Here's a good available traditional Hindu guru and a living saint - Shree Maa http://www.shreemaa.org/drupal/ You can't touch them. These are the real deal. Here's a true guru of

Angela: (Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion as Opium)

2008-03-03 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Und man braucht nicht alles lesen was hier geschrieben wird. Man vermisst wirklich nichts. a :-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rolling Stone Magazine Article on MMY

2008-03-03 Thread Kirk
And lest they forget. This is not a joke. Good for you newcomers to the Fairfield Life Yahoo Group to get a dose of castro oil to help you get over your Maharishi was a good person fantasies. Maharishi University of Management, Holland Celebrates the Dawn of a New World Order of Peace -the

Angela: (Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion as Opium)

2008-03-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The argument between Judy and Vaj was mostly about who's form of meditation is better and who has the better scientific proof. I think the jury's still out. Actually, the argument between Vaj and me was

Re: Angela: (Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion as Opium)

2008-03-03 Thread Angela Mailander
Well, thanks, Judy, for setting the record straight. --- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The argument between Judy and Vaj was mostly about who's form of meditation is better and who has the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rolling Stone Magazine Article on MMY

2008-03-03 Thread nsm108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really? Well that certainly does sound like an interesting story. depends on whose world we're talking about, doesn't it? obviously in your world, no such thing has occurred. ---Well, really? His work, or other's

[FairfieldLife] Free Downloads

2008-03-03 Thread suziezuzie
Check this out--loads of free downloads that are really great, even a complete text program! http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2260070,00.asp

Re: Angela: (Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion as Opium)

2008-03-03 Thread Vaj
On Mar 3, 2008, at 6:08 PM, authfriend wrote: As far as Vaj is concerned, the case against TM is closed. Of course it's not closed. They're under new management now. Things could change, but that does seem unlikely. And not everyone quits because of side effects. For some people it can

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