You must have some very different Muslims in Europe than the ones I have met here. In 1982 I taught a very unusual class of ESL at Kent State University. All 25 guys from Muslim and Arabic speaking countries. They were an amazing bunch of young gentlemen, and the only classes I've ever taught that were similar were the tenth grade boys at MSAE. Those young Muslims were intelligent, kind, and spiritual. I've kept in touch with a number of them, and they continue to be what they were then, except that with age, kindness has become more important to them than intelligence. a
--- "Hagen J. Holtz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Irmeli said: > > Practically every time they (the nuslims) publicly > say > something, they make themselves just ridiculous, and > show that their > capacity to formal operational thinking, or abstract > conceptual > thinking, is poor. They combine categories in a > wrong way all the > time. And this is not about belief systems. It is > about where they are > in their cognitive development. And I consider their > beliefsystems to > be the cause of their backwardness. > > Irmeli, what you report from Finland fits > perfectly into the picture, which we also have on > German grounds with this "ethnic" group from time to > time. So your description illustrates it very > felicitously. But for all that I personally consider > their beliefsystem not as being the main cause of > their backwardness, but rather their lack of > willingness to go one step ahead. And I think, that > western influence has been contributing to this > disclaiming attitude a lot, because the interests of > the west had predominantly been of economic and > earlier even of generally subdueing nature, living > the reckless fruitless hubris of feeling superior. > And now we harvest a little the fruits of our > sowing. > > Hagen Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
